Best Overall Ephedra Free Fat Burner?

any updates from anyone of good fat burners or stacks to cut fat?

i just got done using **** Venom Hyperdrive 3.0...

Its by far the best supplement wthout ephedra i have used. Ive used hydoxycut, hydroxycut hardcore, xenadrine, blahh

I used one bottle(90Pills) in about 48 days and lost a good 15-17lbs of body fat(220-202)...with proper nutrition, hardcore lifting(4 years experience), and cardio 6 times per week. You wont get results like you want withoutthe effort.

Venom ALL THE WAY!

Any one every try combining two of these fat burners like Hot Rox and Lipo 6 so they work in concert together. Also I got some of this stuff called Jet Feul by German American Technologies pretty amazing stuff.

[QUOTE=Kate~;20322571]Miami..I have tried it..yes..I love it..great preworkout stim..its the lipodrene thats yellow[/QUOTE]

I own and I love it.... Finishin up my First Bottle

I decided to stack MHP Anadrox with SAN Tight!
I will keep you posted on my results. I've been on this stack for 3-4 days now. So far I think I am getting a bit more definition, however, I am confident that it is all in my head.

I will tell you that so far I have noticed increased sweating and I am AMPED! nearly all day and a beast in the gym. Much easier to force out additional reps while fatigued.

Will keep all posted...

[QUOTE=TS2Fast50187;24993441]Any one every try combining two of these fat burners like Hot Rox and Lipo 6 so they work in concert together. Also I got some of this stuff called Jet Feul by German American Technologies pretty amazing stuff.[/QUOTE]

My fiance and myself have tried LIPO6 and it was a HUGE DISAPPOINTMENT.
We noticed no additional energy, or decreased hunger. The weight loss that was achieved could easily have been done with out this supplement. Fiance lost about 8 pounds in a month. She has done that in the past with out supplements at all. LIPO6 was a waste. Not sure how it gets such a high rating from bb.com

im currently using Leviathan which is a revolutionary product
its a fat burner/test booster
you can check out my log here: [url]http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1371761[/url]
last past 3 weeks i have lost 2 lbs and gained 1 lb of muscle
also my lifts have are increasing just as much as they would on a bulk and im in a -600 calorie deficit :eek:

Check out these combos....

Anadrox and Take Off by MHP

Hydroxycut Hardcore and Thermo Gain by Muscletech

Lipo 6 by Nutrex and Hot Rox by BioTest

Any takers?

Hydroxycut Hardcore!!!!!!!!

Hydroxy Cut: Hardcore!

Any one tried 2 Shredded?

I am 43 years old, work out regularly, minimum 4 of 7 days, along with a good diet and supplementation. I have found Biotest Hot Rox Extreme to be an excellent product. No side effects or overstimulation. It has worked so well that coworkers have asked for it based on my results. (They were using Hydroxycut or Hydroxycut Hardcore and were not happy with the results. Especially the overstimulation of Hardcore.) Other products I have used in the past 2 years (2 bottle min.): Hydroxycut, Xenadrine EFX, Jet Fuel and Leanfire. I rate them in the following order based only on my experience: 1. Biotest Hot Rox Extreme 2. InStone Leanfire 3. Xenadrine EFX 4. Jet Fuel 5. Hydroxycut. Do your homework, read reviews by users and don't just rely on product endorsements. Exercise, eat and sleep right! Then you'll see results.

what is better. I am trying to get to 13 percent bodyfat. I currently weight 235 and have 20 percent bodyfat. I want to add a thermogenic in to help. Is Leviathan worth trying or does someone have a better suggestion? I am 19 and want to be around 13 bodyfat by the end of june.

I do believe that Lipo-6 has been given a good rep? and feed back?

lipo 6 didn't work for me. Hydroxycut Hardcore however gave me great results. I lost more fat on HH in one week that I did with lipo 6 in a whole month. But everyone's different...

I haven't tried Lipo 6....but I've read good reviews on it. It won best fat burner in 2005 by Bodybuilding.com. So is the hype all hype or has substance? Please give advice.

I tried using some stupid green tea supplement thing to lose weight, that didnt do anything but make my piss smell weird....
I've also tried stacker2 which seemed to have gotten the job done, although with running around all day on caffine highs, i dont know that i noticed a difference.
has anyone tried Boiling Point from Star Chem Labs? i saw their ad at the Arnold show.

I just started a MAN Scorch and MAN Vaporize Stack today, I will let you know how it goes. I have heard awesome things and read great reviews.

Well I tried Lipo 6 for the first 2 weeks it worked fine, then I started noticing it was putting me to sleep... I only 2 pills in one day. I stayed off for a month to clean my system. I started again and sure enough it had the same effect.

I guess my body is use to it now...

What do you think of stimulant-x? I'm trying to lose some body fat plus also gain muscle. Right now I'm 225 with a gut...hahah

Any feed back would be good.

-Malachai-

Anyone know anything GOOD/BAD about "ThermoGain" by MuscleTech

Anyone know anything GOOD/BAD about "ThermoGain" by MuscleTech

DCP by Recomp Performance Nutrition is the best I have ever tried. For me it was better than clen. Dsade's copmpany makes it.

Lipo 6 didn't work for me, some heart burn
Hydroycut Hardcore gave me minimal energy, and no weight loss

Lipodrene is what I am on right now, and I love it. I work full time and go to school full time, and I'm married. Along with weight lifting, that is a pretty busy schedule. Liporene gives me incredible energy, and great fat loss, and for only 30 bucks, buy it before its banned.

6'
240lbs
22% bf (not for long)

Hi all,

I have been reading these posts, but I have to say I am not sure why people are finding that Lipo 6 works any better (or worse) than S.A.N. Tight. If you look at their ingredients, they are almost exactly the same, and in fact Tight has more ingredients....

Lipo 6:

120 Liqui-Caps
Supplement Facts
Serving Size2Liqui-Cap

Synephrine 20mg *
Synthetic 99% Guggulsterones Z&E 1:1 20mg *
Yohimbine HCL 3mg *
Caffeine Anhydrous USP 200mg *
Bioperine


S.A.N Tight:

Serving Size: 1 capsule
Servings Per Container: 60

Amount Per Serving:

Caffeine Anhydrous 200mg
Synephrine HCl 99.9% 20mg
Forslean� 95% 20 mg
Synthetic Guggulsterones Z&E 99.9% 20mg
Yohimbine HCl 99.9% 5mg
Vinpocetine 99.9% 5mg
Bioperine� 96.9% 5mg

As you can see, not only does Tight have the same stuff in 1 capsule compared to 2 of the Lipo 6, it also has Forslean and Vinopectine.....

I am not for or against either, because I am still trying to figure out what, if anything, can ever replace the ECA stack for me, but as for these 2 "popular" products, there doesn't seem to be more of a difference that preference...

That's just my 2 cents.....

None of the ephedra free products did jack for me, and I tried a **** load. You can still get ephedrine HCL legally with guafinesen, and I would just buy that instead of wasting your money.

I know everyone responds differently, but again Lipo 6, Hot Rox, Dymetadrine Xtreme Ephedra Free, etc. none of them did anything nor gave me that ephedrine buzz.

How's MAN Scorch, and would you reccomend it for someone my age?

whats up with all these ppl thinking hydroxycut, lipo-6 and all these hype supps are good??
why not listen to ppl who actaully know something on these board recoment such as scorch, EC, or a non stim such as melting point?

Stimerex ES by Hi-Tech is what I'm using now. It gives me great energy and lasts for a while. It's also one pill, which is nice.

I have always used the original version of Twin Labs ripped fuel. It was the best for getting shredded. I tried the new formula called extreme. They should not call it extreme. It sucks! I went on a search and tried Lipo 6, stacker, and hydroxycut hardcore. They all sucked! They do not work. I tried stim x and it felt like I did a line of some nasty crank or meth. It had me tweaked out for hours and could not eat alone do a work out.

For me, nothing replaces good ol' ripped fuel!

Taking man scorch for about 2 weeks so far.. nothing really jumping out at me as far as results. my diet has been as clean as it has EVER been and yesterday i only consumed about 2200 calories with not too many carbs. nonetheless the fat does seem to be very slowly coming off but scorch doesn't really seem to be doing much, its just so hard to tell though

I'd have to go with Lean System 7

Hydroxycut Hardcore is good stuff. Just drink plenty of water and bust your ass in the gym and you will see the results. And dont forget to eat right.

I'm in my second week on Venom by ALR. They recommend that you take one pill to test your tolerance for the first 7 to 10 days. I definitely saw an increase in energy levels. I had an increase in focus as well which was nice. I was able to go 3.5 hours without craving food. I started to become a little bit used to the results, and decided to try two pills today (7 days later). Anyways, this morning I was really jittery. Everything seemed to speed up. I got the "nervous stomach." I still have it right now as I type at home. Anyways, point being, the effects have been very noticable, but don't push your tolerance. It's good stuff when on the right dosable.

Yeah. HH definitely gives you more energy. After the break-in period, you're taking in as much caffein as 6 cups of coffee per day... I believe. I went through a bottle at the beginning of my cutting phase. It did raise my temp, as I was sweating more throughout the day and had much more energy to expel. People at work (now) say that I "acted differently" when I took it last summer.

HOWEVER, I got much better results from dropping daily cal intakes and eating cleaner. I lost 40 pounds in 4 and 1/2 months! Granted, a lot of that was muscle loss because I was studying for board exams and not lifting AT ALL. However, I should post my "before" picture... the amount of bodyfat that I shed was unbelievable!!!!!!!!!!! HH didn't do it all, but it definitely kickstarted the whole ordeal.

I used Thermogenic thyrotabs and mega-zol last year and they were ok, but I was wondering if anyone could tell me if they are good or if there is anything better to lose fat and weight and just to get cut.
thanks

I been using Lipo 6 for about 2 weeks. I dont feel crap. I take 4 a day. What are you supost to feel like? Im going to take it back and try something else. What should I try?

I tried eating raw chicken that was left out in the sun for about 6 hours. I lost 30 lbs in 5 days :D

[QUOTE=benchintraining;29002201]I tried eating raw chicken that was left out in the sun for about 6 hours. I lost 30 lbs in 5 days :D[/QUOTE]

ohh that worked for you too?????? LMAO

hmm... if anyone is interested i might do a write up on using a weightloss suppliment. i'm gunna try and lose some of my fat even though its almost the middle of autumn (fall). i went from 122kg to 78kg. im at about 83kg now, and i'm thinking of cutting when i finish off the last of my max gainer protein.

Has anyone tried cutting w/o using any "fat burners"?
Just by lowering carb/caloric intake and adding cardio to see what can be done on your own?

I'd be very curious to see what could be achieved w/ and w/o the "fat burners".

Is BSN Thermonex any good?

Anybody try lipo 6x. Might be just me but its pretty potent. Messed with the lining in my stomach after I killed more then half the bottle. Great energy though last long.

I got a bunch of free samples of adipo Kinetix, at a the NPC Mid Illinios show,I know it was banned a while ago. The people I got it from said this was a newer version. Has anyone had any expierence with this product, the new or old version?

[QUOTE=blacksuperman;30575601]Has anyone tried cutting w/o using any "fat burners"?
Just by lowering carb/caloric intake and adding cardio to see what can be done on your own?

I'd be very curious to see what could be achieved w/ and w/o the "fat burners".[/QUOTE]


I've been deployed now for about 3 months. My main goal when I got over here was to shred some weight. To answer your question, I haven't used any "fat burners" in the 3 months that I have been here. I came over here weighing in at 193.

My daily calorie intake is about 1300-1500 clean. Mostly chicken, tuna, steak as meats, and vegetables tha are provided.

My cardio has consisted of 2-3 miles every other day on the treadmill (30 mins max) then followed by 15 mins of ab excercises.

I am pleased to say that I am weighing in at 170 after the 3 months and have noticeable difference in my shape.

Hope that helps you out a little.

I've been reading through this thread, skimming through some, taking my time on others. There definitely seem to be some that stick out from the rest. Lipo 6, SANS, Hydroxycut, and many more. Overall it seems to boil down to your body type and what will stimulate it. The same fat burner that one person uses wont work the same on another person, you just need to find your niche.

Personally I've been deployed for over a month now. The base is pretty big so I end up walking pretty darn often. For the first two weeks I had a decent diet. With all the walking and the heat I still managed to gain 11 pounds and not in the way that I liked, while everyone else was losing weight. I weighed 218, the most I've ever weighed. Two weeks ago I started putting some major cardio time in the gym, adding the beginner workout I got from M & F, and maintaining a clean diet. The PX on base has a limited selection, mostly MuscleTech stuff. Without knowing a thing about the fat burners they have on the market I picked up Ripped Fuel: Fat Burner from Twinlabs during the middle of the two weeks that I've been working out. From the first week, which had more cardio, and the second week, which still has a lot of cardio but more time with the weights, I was losing more fat with RF. First week I brought myself down to 217, now I'm at 214 after the second week. Here they sell a bottle for 14 dollars, pretty cheap compared to the competition. In summary even with the muscle I've been gaining, I'm still losing the fat, and have definitely seen it around my legs, and some around my abs.

[QUOTE=NICURT;14599031]In summary, so far, we have a 21 page thread. Anyone see a common theme here?

1) Everyone's body is a little different. Some products seem to work for some, but not everyone. Some people just can shed the pounds pretty easily, some have to work at it, and some (myself) can bust their butt doing hours of cardio, eating right, popping these pills, and not seem to have any change in their body fat at all.

2) Perhaps a little trial and error, time and money will find what works best for you.

3) Getting yourself on the right diet...for you, is probably every bit as important as anything. Again, what works well for some, might not work for you.

It's all a frustrating process. Some seem to get it right, right at the start and never have to look back. Some have the genetics. Some have their young age. I've tried everything it seems. Nothing has worked so far. I can gain strength and muscle, no problem. I can diet, cardio, fat burners, and I still can't loose the 3 inch thick layer of fat on my gut. Been that way for years. I'm still searching for the right combination.[/QUOTE]

In order to help you we'd need to know your diet, an idea of what you do during the day, what exactly your time at the gym consists of, and any supplements you have been taking. When it comes to fat loss, everything you eat matters, and how you live your life. Going to the gym as often as you like wont do a thing for you if you dont live the rest of your life healthy.

[QUOTE=blacksuperman;30575601]Has anyone tried cutting w/o using any "fat burners"?
Just by lowering carb/caloric intake and adding cardio to see what can be done on your own?

I'd be very curious to see what could be achieved w/ and w/o the "fat burners".[/QUOTE]

Yea I didn't use any on my first cut, but I was around 230 then and lost down to 180.Then after a nice bulk I amnow currently on my second cut and using Hotrox and they are doing great for me.

Got a question. I have been bulking, during my bulk i bought a several tubs of NOSBLAST. I think it is similar to No-Xplode. I now want to cut and continue to take this supplement because i am continuing my regular workout and just cleaning up the diet and doing cardio. I also want to take a fat loss supplement, I was think Lipo6, HotRox, or Hydroxycut Hardcore. These are all stimulates correct? Would it be ok to take Nosblast and a stimulate together or should i go with a non stimulate? Any suggestions on a non stimulate?

I have completed my ECA stack and am looking out for my next burner stack. Thermorexin (which has Yohimbine) does not work very well for me (except giving hard ons lol) - so I might try somethign else.

What do you suggest? Man Scorch?

[QUOTE=JK2006;33798841]
What do you suggest? Man Scorch?[/QUOTE]

Scorch is 100% excellent.

Though I will throw in a 100% shameless plug :) for Thermostat from EST, I do believe it to be a pretty nice forumla as well.