Anyone heard anything about the Maximum Stength Lean System 7 pills by any chance ? If they are any good ?
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Anyone heard anything about the Maximum Stength Lean System 7 pills by any chance ? If they are any good ?
I just wanted to give my opinion on Thermogenics. HydroxyCut Hardcore, I used this product for one bottle (120 caps) and for me I did not see any amazing results. Not to say this product does not work, because I sure as hell noticed a difference during and after workouts. During my workouts my heart rate was up and felt I could work out longer, and my cardio I felt like I could run forever. This alone of course equals more weight loss. However to all the newbies out their especially ones on a budget, this product I do not think is worth your time or $$. This is not a magic pill and certainly is not a Winstrol substitute (Steroid). The only value I see in this product and all Thermogenics is for a Pre-workout supplement to get you some much needed energy for an intense workout. If you have the money more power to you and take the recommended dosage (six a day, no more). For me $50.00 for 120 caps is just not worth the results that I can match and probably beat with just proper nutrition alone. I truly believe the actual weight loss due to taking these type of supplements is probably so miniscule you are pissing your money away. Nothing will ever beat proper diet & nutrition (Or steroids for that matter).
[QUOTE=rivroshaun;210639051]I just wanted to give my opinion on Thermogenics. HydroxyCut Hardcore, I used this product for one bottle (120 caps) and for me I did not see any amazing results. Not to say this product does not work, because I sure as hell noticed a difference during and after workouts. During my workouts my heart rate was up and felt I could work out longer, and my cardio I felt like I could run forever. This alone of course equals more weight loss. However to all the newbies out their especially ones on a budget, this product I do not think is worth your time or $$. This is not a magic pill and certainly is not a Winstrol substitute (Steroid). The only value I see in this product and all Thermogenics is for a Pre-workout supplement to get you some much needed energy for an intense workout. If you have the money more power to you and take the recommended dosage (six a day, no more). For me $50.00 for 120 caps is just not worth the results that I can match and probably beat with just proper nutrition alone. I truly believe the actual weight loss due to taking these type of supplements is probably so miniscule you are pissing your money away. Nothing will ever beat proper diet & nutrition (Or steroids for that matter).[/QUOTE]
Thermogenics are really only 10-15% of the equasion. Most of it is diet.
You can NOT work out or out cardio a **** diet. Once people understand that, the weight (either gaining or losing) will fly off, or the muscle will build.
There are a lot better thermogenics then Hydroxycore.
Cytogenix Laboratories Xenadrine RFA-X
[url]http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/cytogenix/xenadrinerfax.htm[/url]
Anyone try this yet? It's brand new... so I would like to know how "strong" it is. Seems to have some interesting things (ketones, Wasabia Japonica Root)
After the Animal Cuts I am going to take a little while (at least 2 weeks, no bull****ing about it) off from stimulants.
I have an eye of JetFuel and now this Xynadrine RFA-X looks interesting. I am still going to stick with my protein and multivitamins...
[QUOTE=Djin;210737631]Cytogenix Laboratories Xenadrine RFA-X
[url]http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/cytogenix/xenadrinerfax.htm[/url]
Anyone try this yet? It's brand new... so I would like to know how "strong" it is. Seems to have some interesting things (ketones, Wasabia Japonica Root)
After the Animal Cuts I am going to take a little while (at least 2 weeks, no bull****ing about it) off from stimulants.
I have an eye of JetFuel and now this Xynadrine RFA-X looks interesting. I am still going to stick with my protein and multivitamins...[/QUOTE]
It looks pretty good ingredient wise.
Perhaps this could be my next thermogenic...
Doesn't matter which one I pick, each one I'm going to do a detailed log (just as I have for REDuction and currently doing for Animal Cuts) followed by a review.
Should be interesting.
[QUOTE=Djin;210742951]Perhaps this could be my next thermogenic...
Doesn't matter which one I pick, each one I'm going to do a detailed log (just as I have for REDuction and currently doing for Animal Cuts) followed by a review.
Should be interesting.[/QUOTE]
I'm looking for one to transition into after SUB-Q, so I may add it to my list of possibles, or I'll just take SUB-Q again, I'm not sure.
I had been using MHP Dren, but now I use VPX Meltdown, and I've lost 8lbs since August 1st. I have been considering switching to Atro-Phex, but I think I'll stick with Meltdown for at least one more month.
Had to take a double dose to make it work. I seemed to always come back to Lipo 6. Not 6x. 6x did not work as well as regular 6.
Had tried Animal Cuts, now trying CL REDuction. Won't release any opinions until I am finished with REDuction.
Can't wait! :)
[QUOTE=BananaBoy;210963301]Had tried Animal Cuts, now trying CL REDuction. Won't release any opinions until I am finished with REDuction.
Can't wait! :)[/QUOTE]
looking forward to your REDuction feedback for sure :)
The Supplement I personally recommend is Universal Zero - G. It is a great energy booster for anyone before workout. And burns fat safely and effectively, with no adverse side effects. Well for those who have blood pressure problems, can try taking magnesium supplement (300 mg/day) with it, to avoid fluctuations in their blood pressure, as also minimize the dose to two caps a day.
Any other queries are welcome!
Going to give REDuction a go, should be here soon, ill keep a log just for u CL
Sorry, but fat burners now are useless, many of the ingredients used in them have dangerous side effects similar to ephedra, but can't hold a candle to the results that THAT supplement was capable of producing. Plus, the main ingredient in damn near ALL of them is caffeine, which, in the doses provided, will mildly raise your heart rate for about a week, and then the body will build a tolerance, and it no longer works AT ALL. If I was to use one, it would probably be EAS thermodynamx because of them using cayanne peppers or something in their ingredients, but that's IF I was to use one...which I won't(and, I'm dieting down right now)
[QUOTE=jrstronge;211024831]Going to give REDuction a go, should be here soon, ill keep a log just for u CL[/QUOTE]
I found that if you're truly serious about losing weight, writing down what you're doing, what you eat and how you feel makes a world of difference.
When you write something down you can always go back to it and see what you've done. 9/10 times when you don't write something down, half way through the day you start to not care and say... well I think I had only this amount of calories, etc.
So having a log is a great way to lose weight.
[QUOTE=RNRW;211039021]Sorry, but fat burners now are useless, many of the ingredients used in them have dangerous side effects similar to ephedra, but can't hold a candle to the results that THAT supplement was capable of producing. Plus, the main ingredient in damn near ALL of them is caffeine, which, in the doses provided, will mildly raise your heart rate for about a week, and then the body will build a tolerance, and it no longer works AT ALL. If I was to use one, it would probably be EAS thermodynamx because of them using cayanne peppers or something in their ingredients, but that's IF I was to use one...which I won't(and, I'm dieting down right now)[/QUOTE]
No one said that a thermogenic is end all/say all of fat lost. They make up about 10-15% of the whole losing weight.
Some actually are a lot better then you give credit for. Not only do they CURB your APPETITE, they can enhance your mood as well. They aren't all built around "Who has the strongest stimulant". Yes a lot are based around caffeine, but also a lot more are based around other things that work.
So I will have to say that YOU ARE THE WEAKEST LINK.
Unless you're some crazy person and always high on coke, they should help you... but we thank you for your input.
[QUOTE=Djin;211063591]I found that if you're truly serious about losing weight, writing down what you're doing, what you eat and how you feel makes a world of difference.
When you write something down you can always go back to it and see what you've done. 9/10 times when you don't write something down, half way through the day you start to not care and say... well I think I had only this amount of calories, etc.
So having a log is a great way to lose weight.[/QUOTE]
This soooo True! I have a log on my palm.. of everything that i eat or drink!
Its called Diet for Palm OS. I love it!
[QUOTE=jrstronge;211024831]Going to give REDuction a go, should be here soon, ill keep a log just for u CL[/QUOTE]
awesome, looking forward to your feedback and will follow the log.
[QUOTE=asalways;211022321]The Supplement I personally recommend is Universal Zero - G. It is a great energy booster for anyone before workout. And burns fat safely and effectively, with no adverse side effects. Well for those who have blood pressure problems, can try taking magnesium supplement (300 mg/day) with it, to avoid fluctuations in their blood pressure, as also minimize the dose to two caps a day.
Any other queries are welcome![/QUOTE]
Zero G is a very effective, under ratted fat burner. It's got patented 7-Keto in it. Glad you like it.
[QUOTE=naturalguy;211075581]Zero G is a very effective, under ratted fat burner. It's got patented 7-Keto in it. Glad you like it.[/QUOTE]
Hmm.
I bought 7-KETO from NOW. What's the difference? Isn't 7-KETO still and always 7-KETO?
[QUOTE=Djin;211076461]Hmm.
I bought 7-KETO from NOW. What's the difference? Isn't 7-KETO still and always 7-KETO?[/QUOTE]
Yes, everyone that has 7-Keto licenses it from Humanetics corp.
The NOW product is straight 7-Keto (I have bottle in front of me) and Zero G is 7-Keto plus a lot of other ingredients:
[url]http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/univ/zero.html[/url]
[QUOTE=naturalguy;211079591]Yes, everyone that has 7-Keto licenses it from Humanetics corp.
The NOW product is straight 7-Keto (I have bottle in front of me) and Zero G is 7-Keto plus a lot of other ingredients:
[url]http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/univ/zero.html[/url][/QUOTE]
I take 200mg of 7-KETO a day. Zero G does look good. I do want something with an appetite suppressant.
i was looking for a good fat burner..not really a thermogenic/stimulant. i dont know if i am making sense..lol
so i been looking at DCP, Recreate and just came across Lean Xtreme.
i dont know if i want to spend money on leviathan, sesamin, cla etc.
do i HAVE to stack anything with DCP?
any opinions.
[QUOTE=ndnguy85;211140321]i was looking for a good fat burner..not really a thermogenic/stimulant. i dont know if i am making sense..lol
so i been looking at DCP, Recreate and just came across Lean Xtreme.
i dont know if i want to spend money on leviathan, sesamin, cla etc.
do i HAVE to stack anything with DCP?
any opinions.[/QUOTE]
If you're going to take DCP, just buy some liquid L-carnitine, REDuction, green tea and you'll be all set. Or get yourself some 7-KETO from NOW, L-carnitine, green tea, CLA.
If there was just a "Fat burner" that would be awesome...
is recreate by itself better than dcp?
[QUOTE=naturalguy;211075581]Zero G is a very effective, under ratted fat burner. It's got patented 7-Keto in it. Glad you like it.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for ur comments. I hope this under rated supplement becomes the leader in fat loss industry. And Universal make it much more effective than the current one, to beat the best in the industry.
Also please tell me is it safe for patients on anti-depressants to take Zer-G.
Awaiting ur reply
[QUOTE=RNRW;211039021]Sorry, but fat burners now are useless, many of the ingredients used in them have dangerous side effects similar to ephedra, but can't hold a candle to the results that THAT supplement was capable of producing. Plus, the main ingredient in damn near ALL of them is caffeine, which, in the doses provided, will mildly raise your heart rate for about a week, and then the body will build a tolerance, and it no longer works AT ALL. If I was to use one, it would probably be EAS thermodynamx because of them using cayanne peppers or something in their ingredients, but that's IF I was to use one...which I won't(and, I'm dieting down right now)[/QUOTE]
Fat Burners are not useless at all. It is only that some companies over-hype those products, that makes it useless in the long run. Everyone losing weight should remember basic facts, that burning fat is not just about losing weight, it is also about maintaining that weight. So proper diet and exercise, and to some extent common sense, can do the trick for fat loss. Rest Assured.
Does anyone know where you can buy Lipovox besides there website? It's for my wife and she swears by the stuff. Thanks!
Is it safe to take White Flood/Green MAG while cutting with REDuction? I see three potential issues:
1. There are stimulants in both REDuction (AM) and White Flood. I work out in the evening, so I would be taking the AM REDuction pill around 6:30 AM and the White Flood/Green MAG stack around 6:00 PM, so maybe this won't be an issue.
2. Since I work out in the evening, will the stimulant in White Flood effect the REDuction PM pills?
3. Is it safe to take REDuction and Green MAG at the same time? REDuction contains ingredients that are diuretics, and Green MAG is a creatine supplement that can effect water retention/elimination.
Any comments would be greatly appreciated.
[QUOTE=asalways;211283261]Thanks for ur comments. I hope this under rated supplement becomes the leader in fat loss industry. And Universal make it much more effective than the current one, to beat the best in the industry.
Also please tell me is it safe for patients on anti-depressants to take Zer-G.
Awaiting ur reply[/QUOTE]
I would check with a doctor if I were you.
[QUOTE=paganman;211881141]Is it safe to take White Flood/Green MAG while cutting with REDuction? I see three potential issues:
1. There are stimulants in both REDuction (AM) and White Flood. I work out in the evening, so I would be taking the AM REDuction pill around 6:30 AM and the White Flood/Green MAG stack around 6:00 PM, so maybe this won't be an issue.
2. Since I work out in the evening, will the stimulant in White Flood effect the REDuction PM pills?
3. Is it safe to take REDuction and Green MAG at the same time? REDuction contains ingredients that are diuretics, and Green MAG is a creatine supplement that can effect water retention/elimination.
Any comments would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]
1) that is fine, the stimulants leave your system within 6-8 hours
2) go with a small dose
3) yes, that is fine, stay hydrated