Best Overall Ephedra Free Fat Burner?

[QUOTE=X_IGoHard_X;320223421]First off nothing beats Clen and T3, but they are illegal most places.

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Ever heard of DNP?

[QUOTE=Basil08;320233021]Ever heard of DNP?[/QUOTE]

Yeah I have, It sounds awesome but dangerous if you dont know what you doing? Have you ever used it?

[QUOTE=scaz;319741941]I am using Mitotropin and it has really done alot for me. I hear alot of good things Hydroxycut Hardcore, REDuction, and Animal Cuts. I know that you should switch off Mitotropin after 30 days so I want to try one of the other products, but which one next? I want to eventrally get into a rutein with one of the supplements, but I am not sure which one.[/QUOTE]

try a free REDuction sample, you will love it :)

Someone please pm me where I get real clen.

Currently using Hydroxycut caffeine free since the weekend. I noticed today in the gym during cardio that I started sweating like crazy after 20mins on the threadmill.

Too early to say if this fat burner is working

Actually I heard that not all ephedra is banned, only kind that is banned is the Ephedra Senicia. But stores still sell the kind that has Ephedra viridis and Ephedra extracts. The difference is that ephedra senicia has ephedra alkaloids in it which i guess is suppose to much worse than the other two kinds. So you can still find products such as lipodrene (which i'm thinking about taking) that has ephedra in them. Does anyone have any feedback on lipodrene?

Bought Lipo6X for myself and Muscletech Hydroxycut Hardcore for a friend, both of us had tried Controlled Labs REDuction before....

Both of us much prefer REDuction, personally i find REDuction AM rocks! I would take it every morning about 6am before i get into the shower... On an empty stomach, after 5min could really feel the REDuction kick in, make me feel fully awake, full of energy and in a very good mood... Never had that feeling when i was on Lipo 6X though or any other "fat burner" for that matter...

Lost nearly 14lbs in about 4weeks on REDuction, mostly doing cardio 30-50min 4-5times a week. Still need to shed some weight will go back to REDuction soon...

[QUOTE=engl4nd;320458161]Currently using Hydroxycut caffeine free since the weekend. I noticed today in the gym during cardio that I started sweating like crazy after 20mins on the threadmill.

Too early to say if this fat burner is working[/QUOTE]

I don't start my Lipo-6 BLACK until next week, but I've used the Hydroxycut Hardcore before and it definitely makes me sweat more than any other fat burner I've tried... I didn't feel much else, but it was definitely a nasty sweat.

[QUOTE=Warneckutz;320772301]I don't start my Lipo-6 BLACK until next week, but I've used the Hydroxycut Hardcore before and it definitely makes me sweat more than any other fat burner I've tried... I didn't feel much else, but it was definitely a nasty sweat.[/QUOTE]

I didn't know they started selling Lipo-6 Black. Let us know how it is.

for animal cuts, do you take 2 times a day or just before work outs? the can says twice a day but is that necessary??

[QUOTE=cyben;320762101]Bought Lipo6X for myself and Muscletech Hydroxycut Hardcore for a friend, both of us had tried Controlled Labs REDuction before....

Both of us much prefer REDuction, personally i find REDuction AM rocks! I would take it every morning about 6am before i get into the shower... On an empty stomach, after 5min could really feel the REDuction kick in, make me feel fully awake, full of energy and in a very good mood... Never had that feeling when i was on Lipo 6X though or any other "fat burner" for that matter...

Lost nearly 14lbs in about 4weeks on REDuction, mostly doing cardio 30-50min 4-5times a week. Still need to shed some weight will go back to REDuction soon...[/QUOTE]

WOW, excellent results on REDuction (14 pounds :eek: ), glad to hear that :)

I used Animal Cuts previously and it wasn't too bad (diet slacked near the end). I want to try REDuction but was wondering how the doseages worked, etc. Also wondering if it's OK to stack with White Flood or Animal Pump (I have both) Pre-Workout? FYI, I wake up at 7am, eat breakfast and head to work then leave at 530pm and head to the gym for 6pm and usually out around 8pm, then dinner (no carbs).

[QUOTE=pokerdude069;320860621]for animal cuts, do you take 2 times a day or just before work outs? the can says twice a day but is that necessary??[/QUOTE]

Yes. Read the label.

I finally ordered CL Reduction after hearing numerous positive comments on it. I should receive my bottle within the next couple of days and hope to post my own positive results in the weeks to come.

[QUOTE=goldengoddess22;320461261]Actually I heard that not all ephedra is banned, only kind that is banned is the Ephedra Senicia. But stores still sell the kind that has Ephedra viridis and Ephedra extracts. The difference is that ephedra senicia has ephedra alkaloids in it which i guess is suppose to much worse than the other two kinds. So you can still find products such as lipodrene (which i'm thinking about taking) that has ephedra in them. Does anyone have any feedback on lipodrene?[/QUOTE]

im using the lipodrene and it does seem to be working the first time i took it it seemed to get me sweating, after a while i have to start upping the dose, went from 1 in am, 1 in earlypm, upped to 2 am, and 1 pm but id say its not bad. give it a try.

Cellucor D4. Nothing legal compares.

I used REDuction for a while and liked it but I started getting very noticeable pain in the lower stomach area after taking it for about a week.

Thinking about taking REDuction, what are the side effects? Will it have you in the bathroom, bad headaches etc...

I want to bulk up alittle bit more & trying to loose the fat around my stomach.
I'm presently taking Mass & Cell tech & green tea pills.
After my workouts I'm starting to do 20-30 cardio as well. I already sweat like crazy when I'm working out.

My diet is so so, soda & on the weekends steaks & fries.

Thanks in advanced!

would it be a bad idea to stack reduction with nx methyl ripped hardcore??
any input would be great

[QUOTE=Atom_Bomb;320957221]I used Animal Cuts previously and it wasn't too bad (diet slacked near the end). I want to try REDuction but was wondering how the doseages worked, etc. Also wondering if it's OK to stack with White Flood or Animal Pump (I have both) Pre-Workout? FYI, I wake up at 7am, eat breakfast and head to work then leave at 530pm and head to the gym for 6pm and usually out around 8pm, then dinner (no carbs).[/QUOTE]
Maybe could do what i did sometimes, take one AM reduction in the morning and 1 AM pill just before your workout. The AM pills works best when taken 2 in the morn when u wake up, can really feel it...

[QUOTE=AnkhUNCA;321654091]I used REDuction for a while and liked it but I started getting very noticeable pain in the lower stomach area after taking it for about a week.[/QUOTE]
Never had such pain, guess diff people different reactions to it..

[QUOTE=Carloscda;321658631]Thinking about taking REDuction, what are the side effects? Will it have you in the bathroom, bad headaches etc...

I want to bulk up alittle bit more & trying to loose the fat around my stomach.
I'm presently taking Mass & Cell tech & green tea pills.
After my workouts I'm starting to do 20-30 cardio as well. I already sweat like crazy when I'm working out.

My diet is so so, soda & on the weekends steaks & fries.

Thanks in advanced![/QUOTE]
Never had any side effects when i was on REDuction, had bad headaches when i was on LIPO 6X though..

I just ordered REDuction since I use OT and mine as well use another product from you guys.

My question is should you ONLY take the PM formula before bed-time or can you take it 2 hours before bed?

Also, for the AM formula, are you suppose to take it first thing you wake up? Can you take it with breakfast or should you wait?

Reduction looks real good looks A LOT like Man Scorch. Sucks I can't order either to where I'm at in Canada. Anyone know anything similar?

[QUOTE=CONTROLLED LABS;318227111][QUOTE=Nivea;318063081]I've been taking CL Reduction for about a week now and I can only tell that my sleeping has improved just a bit thx to that pm pill and indeed the dreams keep coming one after the other (its weird that I wake up after each one though, but I go back to sleep in no time).

After I stopped Hydroxycut about 10 days ago, I felt like a zombie for the next couple of days and the CL Reduction hasn't been working as fast as HH did. The weight loss has been minimal so far and just today I was able to pickup where HH left.

But I'm pretty hopeful really, I think together with Green Mag this should be able to do a good job. I'll report more next friday or before If I see anything significant.[/QUOTE]


looking forward to your updates :cool:[/QUOTE]

I don't know if its CL Mag or Reduction, but my energy is like 'never ending'. Maybe its their teamwork or something. Anyway, my weight loss has finally started again. Hydroxycut Hardcore got me from 98KG to 93.5KG in a month, but it got stuck on 93.5KG for about a month untill I finished it. But with CL Reduction&MAG I'm now 91KG in about 20 days. My goal is 85KG and to get under 90KG by friday.

[QUOTE=Atom_Bomb;320957221]I used Animal Cuts previously and it wasn't too bad (diet slacked near the end). I want to try REDuction but was wondering how the doseages worked, etc. Also wondering if it's OK to stack with White Flood or Animal Pump (I have both) Pre-Workout? FYI, I wake up at 7am, eat breakfast and head to work then leave at 530pm and head to the gym for 6pm and usually out around 8pm, then dinner (no carbs).[/QUOTE]
its fine as long as you dont take it (reduction AM) within 4-5 hours of the other stim product.
[QUOTE=rowdy113;321314811]I finally ordered CL Reduction after hearing numerous positive comments on it. I should receive my bottle within the next couple of days and hope to post my own positive results in the weeks to come.[/QUOTE]
looking forward to your updates
[QUOTE=Carloscda;321658631]Thinking about taking REDuction, what are the side effects? Will it have you in the bathroom, bad headaches etc...

I want to bulk up alittle bit more & trying to loose the fat around my stomach.
I'm presently taking Mass & Cell tech & green tea pills.
After my workouts I'm starting to do 20-30 cardio as well. I already sweat like crazy when I'm working out.

My diet is so so, soda & on the weekends steaks & fries.

Thanks in advanced![/QUOTE]
no side effects like that to speak of.
[QUOTE=dh_biker;322043741]would it be a bad idea to stack reduction with nx methyl ripped hardcore??
any input would be great[/QUOTE]
no need, its perfect on its own.
[QUOTE=havingfun;322382861]I just ordered REDuction since I use OT and mine as well use another product from you guys.

My question is should you ONLY take the PM formula before bed-time or can you take it 2 hours before bed?

Also, for the AM formula, are you suppose to take it first thing you wake up? Can you take it with breakfast or should you wait?[/QUOTE]
2 hours before is fine, but ideally right before bed. its best to take the am pills 45 minutes before the meal (be it breakfast or lunch)
[QUOTE=glow9;322526701]Reduction looks real good looks A LOT like Man Scorch. Sucks I can't order either to where I'm at in Canada. Anyone know anything similar?[/QUOTE]actually nothing like that product :D

why cant you get it into canada? seems to get through to everyone who buys it from here.

[QUOTE=Nivea;322713661]I don't know if its CL Mag or Reduction, but my energy is like 'never ending'. Maybe its their teamwork or something. Anyway, my weight loss has finally started again. Hydroxycut Hardcore got me from 98KG to 93.5KG in a month, but it got stuck on 93.5KG for about a month untill I finished it. But with CL Reduction&MAG I'm now 91KG in about 20 days. My goal is 85KG and to get under 90KG by friday.[/QUOTE]

def a combo, both are great for energy.

[QUOTE=CONTROLLED LABS;318584611]thanks for your feedback on REDuction :) (have you thought of adding REDuction PM to your current fat burner?)[/QUOTE]

I'm actually jumping on the "Buy 2, Get 1 Free" deal. So that gives me Lipo-6 BLACK during the day and REDuction PM and Fusion's Shut-Eye at night...

Does anyone recommend REDuction for women? I have been on Animal Cuts for months now and I believe it's time to swtich to something else. I work out 5-6x's a week, twice a day for an hour (weights at lunch, cardio after work)

I've had significant muscle growth, but I'm having trouble getting rid of the last 10 lbs of fat. I have about 2 full months to hit a personal deadline and really see improvements.
Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=Warneckutz;323059111]I'm actually jumping on the "Buy 2, Get 1 Free" deal. So that gives me Lipo-6 BLACK during the day and REDuction PM and Fusion's Shut-Eye at night...[/QUOTE]
sounds pretty good :)
[QUOTE=hopefulbee;323088551]Does anyone recommend REDuction for women? I have been on Animal Cuts for months now and I believe it's time to swtich to something else. I work out 5-6x's a week, twice a day for an hour (weights at lunch, cardio after work)

I've had significant muscle growth, but I'm having trouble getting rid of the last 10 lbs of fat. I have about 2 full months to hit a personal deadline and really see improvements.
Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]

absolutely, just be sure to cycle off of your stims for a week before starting it up

[QUOTE=CONTROLLED LABS]absolutely, just be sure to cycle off of your stims for a week before starting it up[/QUOTE]

what if we didnt? i went from hydroxycut hardcore and then to REDuction the next day. I finished one cycle of it, didnt see anything great but thats diet related not CL's issue. I just bought my second package of it so... should i finish this, then take 1 week off of anything, OR MORE and then start REDuction again?

REDuction gives me great night sleep. It allows me to sleep great. I haven't used it for a while though, since like last year. However now that they have just P.M. formula I might buy some just to help me sleep. As far as fat loss it didn't work that great for me.

Lipo 6 is definetly one of the best fat burners that I've tried. I am excited about new Lipo 6 Black. I will run some of it in the summer to get ripped.

If you have very little body fat, try NxCare Ripped Kit 21 day cycle. Works great for giving you that shredded look.

I just bought Lipo 6 and my question is that the bottle says not to take more than 4 pills per day but on this site it says for extreme fat loss to take 6 pills per day. Does anyone currently use this and take 6 per day?