Best Overall Ephedra Free Fat Burner?

Just bought Dyma-Burn Xtreme,hope I didn't jump the gun.Does anyone have any feedback on this product?Any info. would be greatly appreciated.

For Right now...

Check out SAN product
Fatburners Tight comboed with T3 wil be the most effective fat burners out there. Look at the formulaes and concentrations and you should see as to why they are the best. Don't necessarily be fooled with ad's and propeganda put out there. Also, don't think that fatburning and energy levels corrilate through product. Everyone got spoiled by the ephedra based product and the associated adreniline rush. This combo though you'll still feel with the Yohimbe. As for stacker... Lots of caffeine, thats about it. Save your money for the better product and better food choices

Anyone know much about DNP? How much you should take, cost, and where do you get it, as it is still unregulated.
Any info is greatly appreciated.

Has anyone tried ThermoDynamX by EAS? I just ordered some and going to try it out but still wondering if anyone has tried it and what their thoughts on it were.

[QUOTE=toucan49]For Right now...

Check out SAN product
Fatburners Tight comboed with T3 wil be the most effective fat burners out there. [/QUOTE]

Hmmm... I am just about to finish my first bottle of T3 and I'd have to say that I'm pretty disappointed. I didn't think I had to combo T3 with Tight. This is my first time using a thermogenic so any advice would be good. I've just got a small belly that just will NOT go away!

Who said we cant find fat burners with ephedrine in Canada? :P

Try Yerba Mate tea.... [url]http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=398412[/url]

[QUOTE=tapout]Anyone know much about DNP? How much you should take, cost, and where do you get it, as it is still unregulated.
Any info is greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]
Might want to take this question to the steroid section(or the search section) It's fairly touchy subject and the stuff is sketchy. It sure as hell works though. It ain't your average fat burner.

Hey man, im using Lipo-6 too. But im only into my 2nd week, i lost about 6 lbs. already. No muscle loss at all (not yet at least) but i think with this diet ill be alright. Im having about 215g of protein, 200g of carbs, and about 2000 cals. I weight aroud 215 right now. So if you have any latest info on your progress id love to hear. See ya.

I started using this stuff 3 months ago because I needed to get away from the ephedra packed pills because they are no good for you. Its called veriuni advanced weight loss and it works great. I would reccomend it but I dont know if we are aloud to put links on here or not. anyway its good stuff and thats what i think the best ephedra free fat burner is!

[QUOTE=SULLY_00]Man, how much does T2 cost?[/QUOTE]

i just checked out t2 on that website...on the home page in the middle lower area itll say "US sales click here"...click there, it looks pretty cheap...$29.95 for 120 capsules...hope i helped

[QUOTE=bigassdude]Hey man, im using Lipo-6 too. But im only into my 2nd week, i lost about 6 lbs. already. No muscle loss at all (not yet at least) but i think with this diet ill be alright. Im having about 215g of protein, 200g of carbs, and about 2000 cals. I weight aroud 215 right now. So if you have any latest info on your progress id love to hear. See ya.[/QUOTE]
thats awesome man...keep posting your progress

San Tight!!!!

[QUOTE=Zero000]Im very fat, what should i do. I can't see my dick.[/QUOTE]
lol

I heard that Ma-Haung is the herbal supplement for ephedrine...If ephedrine is so good, why not just take ma-huang....any answers, please help, cauz im about ta go down to the natural helath food store and buy a shytload of it

[QUOTE=emg]I heard that Ma-Haung is the herbal supplement for ephedrine...If ephedrine is so good, why not just take ma-huang....any answers, please help, cauz im about ta go down to the natural helath food store and buy a shytload of it[/QUOTE]

Prob becuase it's been banned from the U.S. for months now. Good luck finding it at the natrual health food store.

What about stacking Tight! & Lipo6 ? Someone told me that it wasn't a good idea , so I'm putting that out there . What do you's guy's think ?

Hey heard some of you guys discussing lipo 6. I have been taking it for about a month now. I started out at 185lbs. Combining lipo6 and a 2000 cal/day diet (with about 45 min of cardio everyday) I have gotten down to a much leaner 172 lbs. No muscle loss either. Keep posting.

[QUOTE=Crazyhouz195]Hey heard some of you guys discussing lipo 6. I have been taking it for about a month now. I started out at 185lbs. Combining lipo6 and a 2000 cal/day diet (with about 45 min of cardio everyday) I have gotten down to a much leaner 172 lbs. No muscle loss either. Keep posting.[/QUOTE]

i just bought this product... haven't got it yet tho... my question is.. how is ur body lookin? are u more cut? u say u lost 13lbs.. which is great....can u see a difference? and if u lift weights.. are u still gaining muscle too?
thanks

[QUOTE=delta9]I don't think your lying, hydroxycut does work however there are much better options out there such as thermorexin or ephedrine+sansight. If you would been taken these instead of hydroxycut I"m sure you would have lost more fat and probably retained more muscle.[/QUOTE]

I'm trying to figure out what's the best I can take to lose as much fat as possible while keeping the energy I need to do martial arts. So much to read, and not alot of time (want to order by tomorrow). So far, concensus shows SAN Tight + Ephendrine is a good stack, BUT on the san tight product page it says "Do not stack Tight with ephedrine or ephedra." So you guys basically ignore that warning and do it anyways? How much ephedrine do you stack it with? I'm in china, so ma huang (just ephendrine basically) is legal, but I'm hesitant if I should buy it or not. Out of san tight and Lipo 6 (and maybe hydroxycut) what do you think gives the best results? Any advice is appreciate. I can't really stack because I can only really do a bottle a month (roughly $20-$30 = broke college student).

[QUOTE=SpiXe]I'm trying to figure out what's the best I can take to lose as much fat as possible while keeping the energy I need to do martial arts. So much to read, and not alot of time (want to order by tomorrow). So far, concensus shows SAN Tight + Ephendrine is a good stack, BUT on the san tight product page it says "Do not stack Tight with ephedrine or ephedra." So you guys basically ignore that warning and do it anyways? How much ephedrine do you stack it with? I'm in china, so ma huang (just ephendrine basically) is legal, but I'm hesitant if I should buy it or not. Out of san tight and Lipo 6 (and maybe hydroxycut) what do you think gives the best results? Any advice is appreciate. I can't really stack because I can only really do a bottle a month (roughly $20-$30 = broke college student).[/QUOTE]

Your question might be suited better within a different section. Nevertheless, You might consider below as it has benefited me. During the first cycle though, I did half the dosage mentioned.

6:00am (1) San Tight (1) 25mg Ephedrine
Noon (1) 25mg Ephedrine
4:00pm (1) San Tight (1) 25mg Ephedrine
8:00pm (1) 25mg Ephedrine

Cycle 4-weeks on 1-week off

During my off week, I rely on my wife and workout partner to help me keep my diet in check. I have lost 18 pounds while increasing mass and strength (2 months). Hopefully, my next cycle will be my last.

San Tight is moderately priced, Vasapro is reasonable. Usually you can get 48 tablets of the latter for under $8.00 if you price around. Bodybuilding.com is very reasonable.

For your goals, I would think SAN Tight would be sufficient. If you want to get aggressive with the fat - simply add Ephedrine as tolerated.

[QUOTE=Sisyphus]Your question might be suited better within a different section. Nevertheless, You might consider below as it has benefited me. During the first cycle though, I did half the dosage mentioned.

6:00am (1) San Tight (1) 25mg Ephedrine
Noon (1) 25mg Ephedrine
4:00pm (1) San Tight (1) 25mg Ephedrine
8:00pm (1) 25mg Ephedrine

Cycle 4-weeks on 1-week off

During my off week, I rely on my wife and workout partner to help me keep my diet in check. I have lost 18 pounds while increasing mass and strength (2 months). Hopefully, my next cycle will be my last.

San Tight is moderately priced, Vasapro is reasonable. Usually you can get 48 tablets of the latter for under $8.00 if you price around. Bodybuilding.com is very reasonable.

For your goals, I would think SAN Tight would be sufficient. If you want to get aggressive with the fat - simply add Ephedrine as tolerated.[/QUOTE]


Thats a lot of ephedra.. any heart flutters? (:

[QUOTE=kendog]Thats a lot of ephedra.. any heart flutters? (:[/QUOTE]

Not that I could detect. A matter of fact, I have had EKG's done while under the specified dosages. The rhythem was normal - though the pulse was in the upper 70's to low 80's.

I would assume that if I had popped 50 or more mgs in one dose - then I probably would have a few issues.

[QUOTE=emg]I heard that Ma-Haung is the herbal supplement for ephedrine...If ephedrine is so good, why not just take ma-huang....any answers, please help, cauz im about ta go down to the natural helath food store and buy a shytload of it[/QUOTE]


I thought the herb Ephedra was the herbal supplement for ephedrine.
I am sure it is. I am using the ephedrine, asprine,and caffine stack.
They are all in them selves a fat burner but when stacked they are great.
I can still buy ephedrine but ephedra you can't buy anymore nor get the products that have ephedra in them. Odd you can't buy ephedra but can still get the chemical form of it! ( ephedrine)

Ok, Just did some research. Ma-hung, ephedra same thing according to one site.
8 hours sleep in 2 days! Need to research befor I stick foot in mouth!

Hi everyone!!
I've been reading posts for hours trying to find what sounds like the right 'cocktail' for me to lose my massive assive!

I am a 35 yr. old female, new to this forum and dieting. I had always been in great shape, up until two yrs. ago. I took some medication which resulted in a 40 lb. weight gain in 4 months.
I had an awesome figure until then.
I'm a big girl anyway.... 5"10, hour-glass figure, currently 227 lbs. I had gotten up to 256. I found out I have a thyroid prob., and have lost 30 lbs since. (normally hover around 180-200, and look athletic-y)
I am currently taking phentermine 37.5 mg, starving myself, and just started taking laxatives. I very rarely eat at all, and am kinda at a stand still with the weight loss. I have a really hard time with any weight bearing excercises as my joints ache from the thyroid problems (and excessive weight)
I absolutely HATE ephedra. I can't stand to feel jittery.

so... can anyone help me with knowing what I can take that will drop the weight in a HURRY. ( I am getting married in July and would like to weigh about 170) I can walk a million miles.. but thats about it for cardio.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE help if you have any similiar stories or circumstances.

Thx so much!
Sunni

I've been taking hydroxycut for about 3 weeks and seen no real results. I guess this product does suck just like everyone else is saying. It does give me great energy though during my workout! I am also taking CLA. If I switch over to Lipo 6, will I still get the energy boost that I got from hydroxycut? Will it be safe to take Lipo 6 and CLA for fatloss and thermoburst for energy?

It is the best out there.

"I've been taking hydroxycut for about 3 weeks and seen no real results. I guess this product does suck just like everyone else is saying. It does give me great energy though during my workout! I am also taking CLA. If I switch over to Lipo 6, will I still get the energy boost that I got from hydroxycut? Will it be safe to take Lipo 6 and CLA for fatloss and thermoburst for energy?"

There's more to fat loss than just a supplement...how's your diet?

"Hi everyone!!
I've been reading posts for hours trying to find what sounds like the right 'cocktail' for me to lose my massive assive!

I am a 35 yr. old female, new to this forum and dieting. I had always been in great shape, up until two yrs. ago. I took some medication which resulted in a 40 lb. weight gain in 4 months.
I had an awesome figure until then.
I'm a big girl anyway.... 5"10, hour-glass figure, currently 227 lbs. I had gotten up to 256. I found out I have a thyroid prob., and have lost 30 lbs since. (normally hover around 180-200, and look athletic-y)
I am currently taking phentermine 37.5 mg, starving myself, and just started taking laxatives. I very rarely eat at all, and am kinda at a stand still with the weight loss. I have a really hard time with any weight bearing excercises as my joints ache from the thyroid problems (and excessive weight)
I absolutely HATE ephedra. I can't stand to feel jittery.

so... can anyone help me with knowing what I can take that will drop the weight in a HURRY. ( I am getting married in July and would like to weigh about 170) I can walk a million miles.. but thats about it for cardio.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE help if you have any similiar stories or circumstances.

Thx so much!
Sunni"

Wow..the biggest problem you have right now is starving yourself and taking laxatives. Right now your body thinks it's in a time of famine. It's storing every single Calorie you feed it as fat. Your metabolism is at a stand still that's why you aren't losing anymore weight. No supplement will help you lose weight while you are eating like this. Basically you MUST eat at least 6 meals a day (albeit small)...they should all have protein in them and should follow a basic 40/30/30 diet regimine. Once your diet is in check the fat will shed off.

Make sure you are burning Cals than you are taking in..but not too much as if you are losing weight too fast it's most likely muscle. One final thought that you may not want to hear is that you should forget about supplements until you are stuck at a certain weight for a period of time, and your diet doesn't seem to be enough then and only then should fat burning supplements be used in your case. Good luck and don't give up.

greenstr,
my diet is extremly clean and im lifting and doing cardio like crazy, but this hydroxycut stuff just sucks.

trimax

GREEN-
Thank you so much for your advice. I don't mind you telling me 'something I don't want to hear'... if its true, its true!
I am on the "brian phillips-eating for life' weight loss plan. It's not really a diet, its teaching you how to eat for life... a healthy way to eat rather than a quick fix.
I have been doing it for two days, and my energy IMMEDIATELY increased. It's hard to exercise when your starved and exhausted because you have no energy (fuel from food) What you said made sense... I think I just wanted a quick fix, as I feel pressure to be gorgeous by July (my wedding date).
As soon as I began eating, and re-hydrating myself ( I was totally dehyrated), I immediately gained 7 lbs. probably water weight, but still hard to SEE on the scales.
Anyway, I will do my best not to vary from I'm taught to eat..it's just hard when you've had bad habits for so long.

Thank you for taking the time to explain things... it made it clearer for me.


Sunni

What does everyone think of Zantrex-3?
Is it a good fat burner, energizer, and appetite decreaser??

Thanks

[QUOTE=Bcrichsolo]greenstr,
my diet is extremly clean and im lifting and doing cardio like crazy, but this hydroxycut stuff just sucks.[/QUOTE]

Bump to this. It's far too expensive to not do all it claims to in the ads. A bodybuilder friend of mine took it while preparing for a (natural, he wasn't taking anything else except Whey and Glutamine) show and he said it increased focus and helped calm down a raging appetite slightly, but that's all.
You can get the same effect off drinking a strong mug of green tea - so in my book green tea is the best natural fat-burner.

Whats the safest and best working all around fat burner? My family has a history of heart problems so i want to make sure i get a safer kind.

thanks alot

i'm 24 and i'm 5'9 and weigh 230 but i'm solid and i want to drop about 40 lbs is it bad to take creatin and lipo 6 together along with 3 protein shake's daily plz give honest feedback.

[QUOTE=stillmatic401]i'm 24 and i'm 5'9 and weigh 230 but i'm solid and i want to drop about 40 lbs is it bad to take creatin and lipo 6 together along with 3 protein shake's daily plz give honest feedback.[/QUOTE]

No, although creatine mono has been known to cause "bloat". While Creatine Ethyl Ester has been known not to cuase "bloat".

also my upper pecs r frim and hard but, the lower bottom part of pec has alittle flab to it what is the best workout for this part of the pec to frim and harden it up like the upper pec muscle.

[QUOTE=stillmatic401]also my upper pecs r frim and hard but, the lower bottom part of pec has alittle flab to it what is the best workout for this part of the pec to frim and harden it up like the upper pec muscle.[/QUOTE]

Lose bf. Your pec is one muscle, not upper and lower. But you can try decline bb presses if you like.

what do people think about lipo 6 has anyone had a good turn out with this fat burner if so and you have pics to show plz inform me.

Anyone take Thermogen II efx??? I took when it had ephedra and it worked great...

my friends had pretty good luck with this myolean efx stuff. got the green tea to cut that appetite and give you the energy. he said he used it the final 8 weeks of his contest prep, and he came in pretty hard and ripped.

well, i have tried GNC's "cuts" and all they did was SORT OF elevate my body temp, nothing dramatic.
i tried "zantrex 3" taking 2 pills right before a workout, and whew boy those things have a lotta caffiene for me. some of it is mental, but it got my energy going anyways, enough that i could run longer.
got a ton of EF hydroxycut off ebay for dirt cheap, so im gonna try those bad boys way later on. actually, sense we're on the topic, im selling some bottles of it, if anyone is interesting, PM me. i know that hydroxycut is getting flamed here, but i still want to see for myself

I love AOR's EGCG MAX... check it out at aor.ca
the most potent standardized green tea extract you can buy.
I believe relentlessimprovement sells it.
When you're looking for effectiveness you've gotta look at the science and green tea has good science for burning fat, preventing disease.

[QUOTE=Jiggly]What does everyone think of Zantrex-3?
Is it a good fat burner, energizer, and appetite decreaser??

Thanks[/QUOTE]


That crap gave me the WORST headaches. Too powerfull for me, had to stop taking it.

I think Zantrex-3 or whatever it's called is a total scam... way overpriced for inferior ingredients... but they make huge profits by heavily promoting it.
And GNC puts it on display and the salespeople promote it and that really makes me ill... esp. when I see an uninformed lady enter the store and is sold on the product.
It has Niacin 50mg... a very inexpensive B-vitamin that you can get in any multi... and then the famous proprientary formula that I avoid like the plague when looking for a product. It is basically caffeine in a pill which you can buy 10x cheaper anywhere else.
Green tea extract standardized for EGCG anywhere close to AOR's EGCG MAX would be the healthiest weight loss and health-enhancing supplement out there... the studies are endless and amazing for disease prevention and the protection of the brain, muslce, skin, bones, heart, etc...
It's something you should use everdyay.

Green Tea (Camellia sinesis) Extract… 700 mg *

Total catechins……………………… 560 mg *
Epigallocatechin gallate (EgCG) …. 315 mg *
Epicatechin gallate (ECg) ………… 75 mg *
Epigallocatechin (EGC)…………… 30 mg *
Epichtechin (EC)……… 35 mg *
Caffeine …………………… 7 mg *

i have taken hydroxycut for some time now. can't complain to be honest. i can't say it does everything the ads say but not many product do. i know for me it gives me the extra edge i need to do the cardio that maybe i would not do typically. could just be the placebo affect to be honest with you. i think it works therefore it works.

I just implemented iSatori's "Lean System 7" as a product to help eliminate some additional fat. Along with that I've been using LifeWave's Energy Patches. My current body fat is about 13.5% and my weight is 226 lbs.

I've been doing a load of cardio the last few months to get my weight down from around 283 lbs. However, so much cardio has left me weaker as it relates to lifting and I have lost some muscle tissue as well.

The plan is to cut back on some of the cardio (spinning) and concentrate on developing more muscle.

I've heard some good things about this LS7 product. We'll see!

Stay Energized!

Al Ferguson

I kno this is late, but, whoever has taken Magic Herb...are there any side effects?

I hope I'm not off topic but I'm bulking and when I get to the desired weight, I wanna cut down on fat but not muscle, wat should I use????