Best Overall Ephedra Free Fat Burner?

[QUOTE=DGreekStallion;252287411]It's been a while since I last took a fat burner- SUB Q... I do like the occassional Red Bull and PEA for testing purposes. When I mean tolerant I just mean I handle stimulants well; I believe my high body weight contributes to that fact, as well as my metablism.

I hope Mitotropin will work as advertised.[/QUOTE]

Never believe what you read. :)

Sucks, but in today's world of "fast acting" "instant pumps" and "massive gains!!!" ads you have to weave through the supplements via trial and error. It's a nice word to hear what others have tried, what has worked for THEM and what hasn't, but what people tend to ALWAYS FORGET is that one thing might work horrible for them, but might be the magic pill (powder, etc) for another person.

It is a costly investment, but I believe you (as a human, or anyone for that matter) and I are worth the investment. Health is the best gift one can give themselves.

If we're so picky and always like to "try" new foods or something, why shouldn't supplements be the same?

But as I've said a trillion times, things are always have to be taken with a grain of salt... there are a few things even I won't get hyped into *Cough* MUSCLETECH *cough*... but to each their own.

As for you being able to handle supplements... each person is different. Lets just hope what you're looking for in this next supplement is the one for YOU. ;)

/end history lesson

ya Mitotropin sounds good........but some rep wana say y its 21+?

I used HH for about 2 months and lost a solid 20lb of fat.

I am really doubting that HH had much to do with this. Straight diet of no more than 1750 calories thanks to counting every calorie on fitday.com. Lifting 3x a week /w 45 mins of biking and 3x a week of HIIT.


After using "fat loss pills", ive come to realize they are more motivational than anything else. If your diet is not in check, you're not going to lose weight, period.

On a side note having a six pack during the summer time feels great.

Just wanted to get everyones opinion regarding stacking. I already talked with the guys at controlled labs but wanted hear yours guy's thoughts.

I have been using REDuction almost done with my 2nd month supply and got excellent results. I will be taking a 2 week - 1 Month break on supplements. Well i want to plan on my next workout and supplements. I want to continue to loose weight and get definition on my body. I was told to stack REDution, Green Mag & Purple Wrath. Do you guys think this is a good stack? What the difference between green mag, purple wrath, and white flood? Any help is appreciated so i can finalize my list so i can order. :).

[QUOTE=SkellorX;252686171]ya Mitotropin sounds good........but some rep wana say y its 21+?[/QUOTE]

Legal crap to cover their ass just incase some stupid kid takes it and dies from a heart attack or something...

[QUOTE=Djin;252842551]Legal crap to cover their ass just incase some stupid kid takes it and dies from a heart attack or something...[/QUOTE]

ya but most sups are 18+

[QUOTE=Djin;252842551]Legal crap to cover their ass just incase some stupid kid takes it and dies from a heart attack or something...[/QUOTE]

I believe it's also because Mito acts upon the Thyroid indirectly. I'm taking it anyway, as long as you follow the directions to a T you should be fine.

[QUOTE=Tial;252814321]Just wanted to get everyones opinion regarding stacking. I already talked with the guys at controlled labs but wanted hear yours guy's thoughts.

I have been using REDuction almost done with my 2nd month supply and got excellent results. I will be taking a 2 week - 1 Month break on supplements. Well i want to plan on my next workout and supplements. I want to continue to loose weight and get definition on my body. I was told to stack REDution, Green Mag & Purple Wrath. Do you guys think this is a good stack? What the difference between green mag, purple wrath, and white flood? Any help is appreciated so i can finalize my list so i can order. :).[/QUOTE]

sounds great. what were your results on REDuction?

green magnitude = creatine and performance optimizers
white flood - preworkout nitric oxide product with energizers and endurance enhancers
purple wraath - intraworkout essential amino acids and endurance blend

[QUOTE=CONTROLLED LABS;252887051]sounds great. what were your results on REDuction?

green magnitude = creatine and performance optimizers
white flood - preworkout nitric oxide product with energizers and endurance enhancers
purple wraath - intraworkout essential amino acids and endurance blend[/QUOTE]


Hey Tank,

Thanks for taking the time responding to my emails. I actually sent you another email regarding which ones i am post to take during the day.

With Reduction i have lost 30lbs+ with the right Dieting. You recommended me, reduction, green mag and purple wrath. I don't need white flood?

starting mitotropin tommorrow hope to get good results.

[QUOTE=Tial;252898201]Hey Tank,

Thanks for taking the time responding to my emails. I actually sent you another email regarding which ones i am post to take during the day.

With Reduction i have lost 30lbs+ with the right Dieting. You recommended me, reduction, green mag and purple wrath. I don't need white flood?[/QUOTE]

awesome to hear, that is an amazing feat. how is the mirror looking?

white flood would add in well, but make sure to spread it out 4 or more hours from the REDuction AM dose

[QUOTE=wazida;252944291]fyi , i was watching 60 minutes on tv after a football game today, he was one of the guests to the show and he said that he does not eat 12k calories a day it was a rumor.[/QUOTE]

yah he said its more like 10 or somethin to that nature

you can eat as much as you want and still loose fat, Its what you burn compared to what you eat, if you burn more then you eat then your loosing weight.

just a quick question....how does the vpx redline rtd compare to the caps or to the orginal liquid? The profiles look pretty much the same, just wondering. Thinking about giving them a try.

[QUOTE=razors_edge;253765161]you can eat as much as you want and still loose fat, Its what you burn compared to what you eat, if you burn more then you eat then your loosing weight.[/QUOTE]

Yes... but it's very difficult to out cardio/work out a bad diet.

If you get your diet in check then things are 100x easier.

[QUOTE=Djin;254038491]Yes... but it's very difficult to out cardio/work out a bad diet.

If you get your diet in check then things are 100x easier.[/QUOTE]

absolutely, diet is the primary tool to losing weight

update on the mitotropin. im loving it i feel it. ive never felt a thermo or fat burner. it not a bad feeling though. also it gives good energy but keeps me hot all day. only bad thing is that i feel like im dehydarated all the time and i drink water all day. when i took reduction i could never drink water when it said to drink water.

Has anyone here, tried recreate from USP labs.. some of my buddies have used it and got good results and i was just wondering what everyone else think sof it.

My husband started Mito 3 days ago and the scale says he lost 3 lbs. Let's hope it is not water weight and actual weight (fat) loss. So far so good with no side effects.

[QUOTE=TC72;204722471]After stumbling across this board and reading all of great feed back on so many different products out there. I decided to try reduction. I have been taking it regularly for a week, along with eating much better than normal for me and drinking more water. I could definatly add more exercise into my life though, but saying that , I have lost about 4 lbs....
[/QUOTE]

My results were exactly same!

The REDuction program is easily managed (@ 2 pills AM/PM) since we often include other supplements: multi-v's, CLA.

The PM formula provides for better sleep! The AM formula was easier on my stomach, less gitters than Cytolean(also a favorite).


*Question:

Is it safe to also include Now liquid L-Carnitine (3000mg)?

My program includes:

(L-Carnitine)??
CLA
REDuction
Slimfast (menu program/recipees)
ON: Multi-V (Performaxx)and Lift Bars
Gaspari Intra Pro protein
Health From the Sun:The Total EFA

[QUOTE=checat;254641751]My results were exactly same!

The REDuction program is easily managed (@ 2 pills AM/PM) since we often include other supplements: multi-v's, CLA.

The PM formula provides for better sleep! The AM formula was easier on my stomach, less gitters than Cytolean(also a favorite).


*Question:

Is it safe to also include Now liquid L-Carnitine (3000mg)?

My program includes:

(L-Carnitine)??
CLA
REDuction
Slimfast (menu program/recipees)
ON: Multi-V (Performaxx)and Lift Bars
Gaspari Intra Pro protein
Health From the Sun:The Total EFA[/QUOTE]

awesome, glad REDuction is working well for you. its fine to combine

I Just started my mitotropin today. Im trying my best to stick to the pamflet that came with it but i cant be EXACT with everything in it. The water isn't hard though. Anyways. I've used a lot of burners out there, ECA stacks etc...and i think that lipo 6 got me as cut as possible...and i even got retarded with the ephedra stuff i took...i was up to 75mg alkaloids a day....not so say...and i ended up sweating a lot more than usual but then again it was summer...i ended up taking lipo 6 after that because i heard much reviews on it...and for me it worked really good...i went down about 10 pounds in a month and was able to keep it off for the whole summer....animal cuts didnt help me out after my recent bulk so i decided to take the new mitotropin..but its ok being this is my first day on it...i will post again soon on results.

I took hydroxcut hardcore (two bottles, 6 weeks on, 2 off) to drop the first 18 lbs, then I hit a plateau, and took Arson to drop another 7 lbs on one bottle. They were both great.

DREN-Hands down the best burner on the market for overall fat loss!!

[QUOTE=jerzydevil;254883711]and i think that lipo 6 got me as cut as possible...and i even got retarded with the ephedra stuff i took...i was up to 75mg alkaloids a day....not so say...and i ended up sweating a lot more than usual but then again it was summer...i ended up taking lipo 6 after that because i heard much reviews on it...and for me it worked really good...i went down about 10 pounds in a month and was able to keep it off for the whole summer....[/QUOTE]

glad to hear about this I just started my first Lipo-6 bottle at the start of the week. This is my first fat-burner ever so if I could get results similar to yours i'd be happy.

Nutrex's Lipo-6x is the best fat burner on the market today. I used it in preparation for three contests this past summer. I had two first place finishes and one second place finish. Lipo-6 will help you get very lean. You picked a great fat burner.

I've been wanting to try out REDuction, but I need to know something before I do, for example;

I do carido as soon as I wake up and then I have breakfast. can I take the AM serving before doing cardio, do my cardio, and then have breakfast normally?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Redcutter;255990991]I've been wanting to try out REDuction, but I need to know something before I do, for example;

I do carido as soon as I wake up and then I have breakfast. can I take the AM serving before doing cardio, do my cardio, and then have breakfast normally?

Thanks![/QUOTE]

I suspect that might even be ideal. What I do is take LX and RED AM on an empty stomach. After about 30 mins I do some 20 burpees and jumping jacks to get myself going for the day, and then I eat breakfast. I'll do regular cardio later in the day, but that works for me.

Hey,

I've been back in the gym since september and i started at 255 and my low weigh in has been 227-228 (around there) on diet and excerise. My only supplements were a muti, glutamine, BCAAs, and fish oil. Now i was looking at alot of fat loss suppluments and i really really really really want to try the E/C/A Stack but i dont have a credit card to get access to them and im not to sure about getting ephedrine HCL contained medicine cause i dont know what the other sh*t in there is going to do to my body.

So I think im going to settle on Lipo-6 but i would like to know if there is another way i can work in trying the E/C/A stack like if you used the gas station ephedrine how did it work for you.

Thanks :-D

[QUOTE=Redcutter;255990991]I've been wanting to try out REDuction, but I need to know something before I do, for example;

I do carido as soon as I wake up and then I have breakfast. can I take the AM serving before doing cardio, do my cardio, and then have breakfast normally?

Thanks![/QUOTE]
sure, but make sure to stay very hydrated
[QUOTE=galahan;256110851]I suspect that might even be ideal. What I do is take LX and RED AM on an empty stomach. After about 30 mins I do some 20 burpees and jumping jacks to get myself going for the day, and then I eat breakfast. I'll do regular cardio later in the day, but that works for me.[/QUOTE]

sounds great. how are you liking it thus far?