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[QUOTE=MinisterOfLust;1641075533]Those who have vaccinated, what's the safest vaccine to take or with the least side effects? Maybe the one that won't turned me gay..[/QUOTE]
Age?
Gender=male, right? (Women wouldn't pretend to worry about becoming gay... . Heck, the smart ones would probably consider it an upgrade.)
[QUOTE=MinisterOfLust;1641075533]It looks like I am running out options and i will have to to succumb to big government. And even f I were to go on the ground of religious rights, I feel they would make my life miserable or ostracized me. Serious.
Those who have vaccinated, what's the safest vaccine to take or with the least side effects? Maybe the one that won't turned me gay..[/QUOTE]
I took Pfizer.
Shot
#1 nothing, nada, except a long ass drive 1 hr away.
#2 nothing for 6 hours, then tired/sleepy
the next morning, lethargic, 50% energy which ended 36 hours later.
shot site felt like i worked shoulders heavily, still alive, no issues.
[QUOTE=MinisterOfLust;1641075533]It looks like I am running out options and i will have to to succumb to big government. And even f I were to go on the ground of religious rights, I feel they would make my life miserable or ostracized me. Serious.
Those who have vaccinated, what's the safest vaccine to take or with the least side effects? Maybe the one that won't turned me gay..[/QUOTE]
Sorry to hear this brother..
I only had 1 shot so far, Pfizer
no effects at all
[QUOTE=mtpockets;1641086673]
I only had 1 shot so far, Pfizer
no effects at all[/QUOTE]
When is your second?
I got my 2nd today, we were supposed to be on the same day?
This one was way better, same girl, she must be a pro now as I never knew she jabbed me, last time, I felt that thit right away.
Half of it is how they do the injection
half is how relaxed your triceps is (really really floppy relaxed as jelly triceps and it won't hurt)
and the other half is luck
(disclaimer: I'm not a mathematician)
Edit, due for my second on Tuesday (AZ)
[QUOTE=LWW;1641143123]When is your second?
I got my 2nd today, we were supposed to be on the same day?
This one was way better, same girl, she must be a pro now as I never knew she jabbed me, last time, I felt that thit right away.[/QUOTE]
The clinic was today, I missed it. Hopped out of bed, made a coffee and was on the water within 5 minutes. I was cooking bacon and eggs on the shore line when they called to see if i was coming in. Not today missy, not today!
Perks of being retired, I seldom know what day it is. I'll catch them nest week..Maybe. lol
[QUOTE=MinisterOfLust;1641075533]It looks like I am running out options and i will have to to succumb to big government. And even f I were to go on the ground of religious rights, I feel they would make my life miserable or ostracized me. Serious.
Those who have vaccinated, what's the safest vaccine to take or with the least side effects? Maybe the one that won't turned me gay..[/QUOTE]
Imagine being anti-vax this long then caving in the end, just lol.
Go Pfizer or if mRNA scares you go JnJ.
[QUOTE=mgftp;1641164923]Imagine being anti-vax this long then caving in the end, just lol.
Go Pfizer or if mRNA scares you go JnJ.[/QUOTE]
Lol
I am giving in. I need my job. Might take Pfizer next week.
[QUOTE=MinisterOfLust;1641165563]Lol
I am giving in. I need my job. Might take Pfizer next week.[/QUOTE]
Are they still making you wait 4 weeks between shots or has that changed?
[QUOTE=MinisterOfLust;1641075533]It looks like I am running out options and i will have to to succumb to big government. And even f I were to go on the ground of religious rights, I feel they would make my life miserable or ostracized me. Serious.
Those who have vaccinated, what's the safest vaccine to take or with the least side effects? Maybe the one that won't turned me gay..[/QUOTE]
From what I've read and heard anecdotally from the people I know, Pfizer seems to have milder side effects. I got the Moderna vaccine. First dose was no big deal. I had a sore shoulder for a day or two. Second shot was considerably worse. I felt like a had a serious case of the flu, but it only lasted about 24 hours.
My 2 daughters and I had the Pfizer shot and experienced no side effects worth noting. My wife had Moderna and she was miserable. Take that for what it's worth.
Fukking commies are pressuring me to get the vaccine.
Now this delta variant bullchit is coming.
Fuk off
First Pfizer dose done a few minutes ago. Hoping for a mutation side that gives me x-ray vision.
[QUOTE=steffo99;1641197903]First Pfizer dose done a few minutes ago. Hoping for a mutation side that gives me x-ray vision.[/QUOTE]
I am still waiting for that, and it was April.
Something tells me that it ain't happening.
OMG, this bs hasn’t taken a fuked turn.
Yesterday I had the usual slight fever thing with achy ness so I moved some stuff to storage and felt great. Thinking it would all go away, FUK as I went to bed lad night and all through the night into today my body was on fire feels like I have a 100+ temp?
This is bs don’t get the second dose, I’ve only felt this sick very few times, I can’t believe this is the for better or worse BS regurgitating out of punk clowns.
Training is the answer, not this....
[QUOTE=LWW;1641199593]OMG, this bs hasn’t taken a fuked turn.
Yesterday I had the usual slight fever thing with achy ness so I moved some stuff to storage and felt great. Thinking it would all go away, FUK as I went to bed lad night and all through the night into today my body was on fire feels like I have a 100+ temp?
This is bs don’t get the second dose, I’ve only felt this sick very few times, I can’t believe this is the for better or worse BS regurgitating out of punk clowns.
Training is the answer, not this....[/QUOTE]
Did you Die?
A reaction means it's working. Probably hits short people harder. Speaking of being short, people are short because their parents had a quickie. Did you know that little nugget?
Go train, you'll feel better.
[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1641071323]did you see this?
it ain't over!
[url]www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9697115/Bidens-former-coronavirus-adviser-says-Indian-Delta-variant-like-Covid-steroids.html[/url][/QUOTE]
"On steroids" That's alarmist nonsense.
It is more infectious and that's indisputable because it out competes other strains in a population to become the dominant strain quite rapidly, but antibodies from previous exposure (other strains) or from vaccination are effective. And there's no evidence that it is any worse in terms of hospitalization (etc) than any other strains.
[QUOTE=Leaf12;1641191423]Fukking commies are pressuring me to get the vaccine.
Now this delta variant bullchit is coming.
Fuk off[/QUOTE]
Why are they giving free money and free college scholarship to take that vaccine?
I tried to do some lifting, just feel worse, can’t shake this.
[QUOTE=LWW;1641204463]I tried to do some lifting, just feel worse, can’t shake this.[/QUOTE]
Hope it eases soon.. It's only been a day, should be all better by the time you get back from church tomorrow.
[QUOTE=LWW;1641204463]I tried to do some lifting, just feel worse, can’t shake this.[/QUOTE]
Like I mentioned 36 hours until it seems to calm down.
[QUOTE=OldFartTom;1641200413]"On steroids" That's alarmist nonsense.
It is more infectious and that's indisputable because it out competes other strains in a population to become the dominant strain quite rapidly, but antibodies from previous exposure (other strains) or from vaccination are effective. And there's no evidence that it is any worse in terms of hospitalization (etc) than any other strains.[/QUOTE]
I really hope you are correct and this is the last phase of this.
[QUOTE=OldFartTom;1641200413]"On steroids" That's alarmist nonsense.
It is more infectious and that's indisputable because it out competes other strains in a population to become the dominant strain quite rapidly, but antibodies from previous exposure (other strains) or from vaccination are effective. And there's no evidence that it is any worse in terms of hospitalization (etc) than any other strains.[/QUOTE]
There actually is some evidence it increases the risk of hospitalization per infection.
[url]https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)01358-1/fulltext[/url]
I took one of them IBPro thingies last night and started feeling better. I actually trained quite well today, but I'm still pissed I couldn't make it to the gym on Saturday morning, now i gotta wait till next Saturday and wife already said she needs me moving more thit this coming saturday, FUK, it's our last weekend to clean up.
So next sat. not only will I miss the gym, but all my weights will offically be in storage except for a couple 100's and 25's I think I'm gonna keep in the car, I'm going to hear a bunch of BS about the fuking weights will weigh down the god damn car, even though I'm spreading them all out and I already heard BS about storing them in the small apartment, there a fitness center ya know there at the complex, NOT for LiFTERS, it's a fuking cardio room.
[QUOTE=LWW;1641301353]I took one of them IBPro thingies last night and started feeling better. I actually trained quite well today, but I'm still pissed I couldn't make it to the gym on Saturday morning, now i gotta wait till next Saturday and wife already said she needs me moving more thit this coming saturday, FUK, it's our last weekend to clean up.
So next sat. not only will I miss the gym, but all my weights will offically be in storage except for a couple 100's and 25's I think I'm gonna keep in the car, I'm going to hear a bunch of BS about the fuking weights will weigh down the god damn car, even though I'm spreading them all out and I already heard BS about storing them in the small apartment, there a fitness center ya know there at the complex, NOT for LiFTERS, it's a fuking cardio room.[/QUOTE]
If I still had real juice in the biz, I'd round up a camera crew and arrange logistics to film you 24-7 for a yet to be named reality-type show. Authenticity you got in spades, brother. It's the charisma that's TBD and critical to selling the show as I'm sure you would agree, and when you're right you're right.
So I'm assuming you're in if I can somehow put this gig together? :D
[QUOTE=ChazWood;1641303573]If I still had real juice in the biz, I'd round up a camera crew and arrange logistics to film you 24-7 for a yet to be named reality-type show. Authenticity you got in spades, brother. It's the charisma that's TBD and critical to selling the show as I'm sure you would agree, and when you're right you're right.
So I'm assuming you're in if I can somehow put this gig together? :D[/QUOTE]
Sorry dude, I’m already doing this using real audio from all those ring cameras and echo devices for voiceover of animated characters. Going to be huge.
[QUOTE=Plateauplower;1641312193]Sorry dude, I’m already doing this using real audio from all those ring cameras and echo devices for voiceover of animated characters. Going to be huge.[/QUOTE]
OMG Dude, that's freakin' genius! OK, you're the showrunner for this gig but can I maybe get a co-producer credit for my IMDB bio? That would compliment my acting gig in "Snakes on a Plane". I was the dude who got strangled to death by a giant boa constrictor. It sucks that they cut my awesome scene in the final edit, but that's my voice you hear screaming in the BG throughout the film. :)
and to get back on topic, have you considered animating a few other peeps from here for the show? I can think of a few characters who would surely add some flavor to the mix. :D
had second dose 30 minutes ago, BUT... I am due in the gym early tomorrow at opening time. Last time I was SICK the next morning, so not sure how this will go. I really hope it doesn't make me miss the gym session :( Squat and OHP
[QUOTE=ChazWood;1641325783].. in "Snakes on a Plane"... that's my voice you hear screaming in the BG throughout the film. :) [/QUOTE] Due to the randomness if the internet I have no way of knowing if that is a running joke or a true statement. I'll have to consider it as probably true unless told otherwise. There's nobody on the full cast and crew credits with the name Wood - or variations around Bois, Foret, etc (except Casey DuBois) so your voice acting skills have gone uncredited?
Tom if you start feeling it tonight take an ibprofren hell take two, had I’d known that thit works I woulda much earlier.
[QUOTE=OldFartTom;1641382823]had second dose 30 minutes ago, BUT... I am due in the gym early tomorrow at opening time. Last time I was SICK the next morning, so not sure how this will go. I really hope it doesn't make me miss the gym session :( Squat and OHP
[/QUOTE]
Anecdotally, my 2nd dose hit me like a truck the next day, there is a good chance you won't feel up to squatting. (or doing much of anything else for that matter)
Nearly 4,000 Massachusetts residents out of 3.7 million fully vaccinated against COVID-19 have tested positive for the virus, health officials say
=.001%=not bad
[url]www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9712973/Nearly-4-000-Massachusetts-residents-fully-vaccinated-against-COVID-tested-positive-virus.html[/url]
[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1641411383]Nearly 4,000 Massachusetts residents out of 3.7 million fully vaccinated against COVID-19 have tested positive for the virus, health officials say
=.001%=not bad
[url]www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9712973/Nearly-4-000-Massachusetts-residents-fully-vaccinated-against-COVID-tested-positive-virus.html[/url][/QUOTE]
Not sure, had the lady at a test clinic tell me a lot of people who were fully vaccinated were testing positive. Know of an elderly lady who was fully vaccinated ended up with covid and was vented for a few days (recovered). There will always be breakthrough cases, just not sure on the honesty part at this point. CDC already said they aren’t going to count “minor” cases in vaccinated people anymore. Lol wut.
[QUOTE=Plateauplower;1641419133]Not sure, had the lady at a test clinic tell me a lot of people who were fully vaccinated were testing positive. Know of an elderly lady who was fully vaccinated ended up with covid and was vented for a few days (recovered). There will always be breakthrough cases, just not sure on the honesty part at this point. CDC already said they aren’t going to count “minor” cases in vaccinated people anymore. Lol wut.[/QUOTE]CNN was all abuzz this morning over some new variant supposed to be easier to spread...
[QUOTE=Plateauplower;1641419133]Not sure, had the lady at a test clinic tell me a lot of people who were fully vaccinated were testing positive. Know of an elderly lady who was fully vaccinated ended up with covid and was vented for a few days (recovered). There will always be breakthrough cases, just not sure on the honesty part at this point. CDC already said they aren’t going to count “minor” cases in vaccinated people anymore. Lol wut.[/QUOTE]
Even beyond that, the number by itself isn't very meaningful without data such as:
How many non-vaccinated residents tested positive during the same time?
How many fully vaccinated residents already contracted covid prior to being vaccinated?
I don't have any reasons to doubt that the vax is effective, but that number lifted out on its own with so many other unknown variables is completely useless IMO.
[QUOTE=ectoBgone;1641421323]Even beyond that, the number by itself isn't very meaningful without data such as:
How many non-vaccinated residents tested positive during the same time?
How many fully vaccinated residents already contracted covid prior to being vaccinated?
I don't have any reasons to doubt that the vax is effective, but that number lifted out on its own with so many other unknown variables is completely useless IMO.[/QUOTE]
Yep, I agree. Vaccine is the right choice for everyone in a higher risk group, pretty much personal decision weighing the pros and cons after that. I’d have been inclined to get it if I hadn’t had covid. So far post infection immunity appears superior to vaccine induced at least in data I’ve seen. So few cases of “confirmed” reinfection that those were likely a false positive on one end or the other.
[QUOTE=CommitmentRulz;1641421223]CNN was all abuzz this morning over some new variant supposed to be easier to spread...[/QUOTE]
That will be the case until they drain every last bit of vaccine possible. A secret about that though, there have been “variants” since day one, there are likely “variants” in every single person who contracts it. If a variant has traits that make it more efficient or effective that will increase its success to become dominant.
I noticed they are going in hard on kids now with the delta variant. All horse $hit to push an agenda. Kids are just fine with covid (thankfully).
[QUOTE=CommitmentRulz;1641421223]CNN was all abuzz this morning over some new variant supposed to be easier to spread...[/QUOTE]
Every variant made such claims. Organized and choreographed efforts to get people vaccinated imo. Move on people, nothing to see here.
We will all know in the next one to twenty years what this vaccine did to us.
FYI - I’m fully vaccinated with Pfizer and I’ve stopped giving a fuk. People and their actions (think murders and robberies and other crimes) are far more dangerous and hazardous than covid or the vaccine imo. So fuking move on already
[QUOTE=Plateauplower;1641419133]Not sure, had the lady at a test clinic tell me a lot of people who were fully vaccinated were testing positive. Know of an elderly lady who was fully vaccinated ended up with covid and was vented for a few days (recovered). There will always be breakthrough cases, just not sure on the honesty part at this point. CDC already said they aren’t going to count “minor” cases in vaccinated people anymore. Lol wut.[/QUOTE]
okay 1 old lady, but what is a minor case?
either you test positive or you don't, right?
is that like being kinda pregnant?
[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1641422633]okay 1 old lady, but what is a minor case?
either you test positive or you don't, right?
is that like being kinda pregnant?[/QUOTE]
Well no, getting put on a vent is not minor, that’s pretty serious and they aren’t venting unless they have to, so she was probably near death.
I’m not sure why they wouldn’t be counting the minor cases in vaccinated people. Would seem to be pretty important to watch for a possible strain that had a higher breakthrough rate. One good thing about the mRNA vaccines is that they can be changed quickly if needed.
I’m sure they are capturing the data, probably just not making it public since people would latch onto that as a reason to not get vaccinated (even if they were in a group that should).
Minor cases being asymptomatic, only know they are positive because they tested positive or perhaps mild cold like symptoms. I’m sure you could find the details in a google search though. It was a cdc statement in an article on msnbc a few weeks ago.
The FDA will add a warning to Pfizer and Moderna’s COVID-19 vaccines after government scientists found a likely connection between the shots and rare types of heart inflammation in about 1,200 young people
[QUOTE=mtpockets;1641490903]The FDA will add a warning to Pfizer and Moderna’s COVID-19 vaccines after government scientists found a likely connection between the shots and rare types of heart inflammation in about 1,200 young people[/QUOTE]
What is considered young? I had some chest pain today.
[QUOTE=mgftp;1641491923]What is considered young? I had some chest pain today.[/QUOTE]
I believe this was referring to 16-26 year olds, probably happens in older adults too, just less likely to be attributed to the vaccine since the incidence rate would be higher in older adults in general so harder to determine a correlation to the vaccine. I had chest pains during and after covid for a bit, so for older people I wouldn’t be surprised if the infection had a greater potential for this than vaccine.
Personally I am very much against vaccinating kids for this. It is an unnecessary risk for them since their potential for a bad outcome from covid is so low. Let it burn through them naturally, while vaccinating the higher risk would be a logical risk based approach.
[youtube]KEoZh6YzsW8[/youtube]
The guy is right in that vaccination should be individual choice not coercion and it shouldn't have been emergency approved rather than following usual process (albeit accelerated) as that just opens doubts
Just got back from getting my first vaccine shot. Second shot July 22.
[QUOTE=Mark1T;1641536063]Just got back from getting my first vaccine shot. Second shot July 22.[/QUOTE]
Congrats, Pfizer or Moderna?
[QUOTE=OldFartTom;1641519003]The guy is right in that vaccination should be individual choice not coercion and it shouldn't have been emergency approved rather than following usual process (albeit accelerated) as that just opens doubts[/QUOTE]
As someone in the wait-and-see camp for the vaccine, I actually disagree. What we needed in order to return to normal was decoupling infections from hospitilizations and deaths so as not to overwhelm our systems. Authorizing the vaccine for emergency use made perfect sense for administering it to people for whom covid is an emergency (elderly, comorbidities, etc.). Unfortunately, they have pushed way, way beyond that.
[img]https://i.imgur.com/zKmDLTW.jpg?3[/img]
Executives at local hospital are clearly getting frustrated.
Entire state is only 50% vaccinated and the trend of newly vaccinated are clearly trending to 0%.
Nice to know I live in a state that isn't completely brainwashed.
[QUOTE=mtpockets;1641536413]Congrats, Pfizer or Moderna?[/QUOTE]
Pfizer. Second is July 22. After a few hours, my upper arm is sore around the shot area. Hopefully it stays there. I’ll let you know if I die ;)