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[QUOTE=JustTheDad;1639578463]As previously stated, I'm gonna be very jealous if you get Wolverine's healing factor. Hope you do though.[/QUOTE]
That would be sweet, unlocking previously dormant psychic powers would also be acceptable. More likely is we find out in 20 years that it increases your chance of some rare form of cancer by 2%, why, because everything causes cancer.
[QUOTE=Paul Kreul;1639579403]Lol, if you are going to call someone out for saying something.please..back it up next time.
The comment you quoted is still true...not sure I understand the issue. Normal approval process is 3-5 years of animal trials, followed by 3-5 years of human trials.[/QUOTE]
I just figured you'd remember saying it.
And by saying that it's clear you don't understand the approval process. Your misunderstanding is in my guess a very simple one, you are looking at average time frames of approval processes, rather than what is required. But this is just as you didn't understand why people with antibodies shouldn't be in the clinical trials. You don't understand the basics of clinical trial design.
Maybe this graphic can help your understanding.
[img]https://www.hackensackmeridianhealth.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/HMH_2020COVID19_AcceleratedVaccineInfographic_v8-1.jpg[/img]
There is a lot wrong with the following statement but I've gone ahead an made bold one thing that I find to me most false.
[QUOTE=Paul Kreul;1634724413]The vaccine being used today is not an actual vaccine by conventional definition, it is radically brand new experimental mRNA encoding and transcription programming, so the obvious reality is, [b]it has not been tested long enough to understand[/b] safety or [b]efficacy[/b] -- Plain and simple[/QUOTE]
In no way has the length of clinical trials compromised the evaluation of efficacy.
Currently plotting on how to pretend I didn't get vaccinated so I can get vaccinated again and win some of these cool prizes. Apparently someone became a millionaire from getting vaccinated.
Damn, I didn't even get a lollipop or cracker jack prize. I feel a bit ripped off. :D
[QUOTE=eomrat;1639574643]Holy shyt! What do you consider "much of your life"? From what I can tell you cannot shut up about it.
Yea, because EVERYONE cares so much about your little pissing matches that we are just dying to hear more.[/QUOTE]
Took me awhile but I see now what you mean about my pissing matches :D
[QUOTE=bustasinclair;1639581793]Currently plotting on how to pretend I didn't get vaccinated so I can get vaccinated again and win some of these cool prizes. Apparently someone became a millionaire from getting vaccinated.
Damn, I didn't even get a lollipop or cracker jack prize. I feel a bit ripped off. :D[/QUOTE]
Everyone vaccinated is eligible to win. In California we have one 1.5 mil prize and like maybe 15 50K prizes, and more smaller ones. They governor wants everyone getting vaccinated before June 15th when everyone is supposed to officially open.
[QUOTE=bustasinclair;1639581793]Currently plotting on how to pretend I didn't get vaccinated so I can get vaccinated again and win some of these cool prizes. Apparently someone became a millionaire from getting vaccinated.
Damn, I didn't even get a lollipop or cracker jack prize. I feel a bit ripped off. :D[/QUOTE]
My wife got hers months before I got mine. I came out with a water bottle and sticker and she said she felt cheated by going early. I told her I also got ice cream, she got so heated, I had to let her know I was joking. We are doing the lottery ticket thing here now too, but nothing for people already vaxed. Feel like anyone who got vaxed before lottery announcement should get two tickets TBH.
[QUOTE=mgftp;1639584323]My wife got hers months before I got mine. I came out with a water bottle and sticker and she said she felt cheated by going early. I told her I also got ice cream, she got so heated, I had to let her know I was joking. We are doing the lottery ticket thing here now too, but nothing for people already vaxed. Feel like anyone who got vaxed before lottery announcement should get two tickets TBH.[/QUOTE]
Huh? So in your state you're not included if you got vaxxed before a certain date? Makes no sense.
[QUOTE=mgftp;1639580173]I just figured you'd remember saying it.
And by saying that it's clear you don't understand the approval process. Your misunderstanding is in my guess a very simple one, you are looking at average time frames of approval processes, rather than what is required. But this is just as you didn't understand why people with antibodies shouldn't be in the clinical trials. You don't understand the basics of clinical trial design.
Maybe this graphic can help your understanding.
[img]https://www.hackensackmeridianhealth.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/HMH_2020COVID19_AcceleratedVaccineInfographic_v8-1.jpg[/img]
There is a lot wrong with the following statement but I've gone ahead an made bold one thing that I find to me most false.
In no way has the length of clinical trials compromised the evaluation of efficacy.[/QUOTE]
You are clearly are out of your element here. My argument from the beginning if you go back & re-read the pist, is that why did they not include people whom have had Covid if Faucci is stating that 90% of the people need to be vaccinated. Side not, they gave the vaccine to the placebo group after a few weeks, so we will never know the long term effects..funny how that works..clearly this is still lost on you. I then posted that those whom have had Covid do not need the vaccine..& linked the following..
[url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/11/17/health/coronavirus-immunity.amp.html[/url]
[url]https://academic.oup.com/jid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/infdis/jiab255/6274562[/url]
But you keep up the larp, clearly you don’t want to go back and quote my post because you know exactly what I stated.
Also just lol @ the “new super speedy trial test” for this vaccine. Ffs...I cannot believe how naive you are, truly.
In other news, Moderna came out stating their vaccine is 100 percent effective in teens..
“Moderna says its Covid vaccine is 100% effective in teens, plans to seek FDA OK in early June”
[url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/05/25/covid-vaccine-moderna-says-shot-is-100percent-effective-in-teens-plans-to-seek-fda-ok-in-june.html[/url]
So Moderna is claiming 100% effective in a group of people that already have a 100% survival rate. Isn’t that AWESOME! This is why I don’t care about someone’s academic pedigree. I would not buy a Granny Smith Apple from someone whom obfuscates reality at ever chance imaginable.
Next up, Moderna comes up with a vaccine that prevents death from paper cuts...this too will be 100% effective of course. The gulliblness here is mind blowing
[QUOTE=Cass40;1639583563]Everyone vaccinated is eligible to win. In California we have one 1.5 mil prize and like maybe 15 50K prizes, and more smaller ones. They governor wants everyone getting vaccinated before June 15th when everyone is supposed to officially open.[/QUOTE]
Hole-Lee-fuk. Just lol. Who would of thought the first Pandemic we experienced in our lifetimes we had to be bribed with a bunch of free chit, including a chance to “WIN A MILKION DOLLARS”..just so we could get back to normal..
[url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fox19.com/2021/05/12/everything-you-need-know-about-ohios-million-vaccination-sweepstakes/%3foutputType=amp[/url]
Herp Derp
Everyone wants to help out, get vaccinated, save a life, we will give you a prize.......
The prize is diabetes........
Makes tons of sense!!!!
[QUOTE=Paul Kreul;1639585303]Hole-Lee-fuk. Just lol. Who would of thought the first Pandemic we experienced in our lifetimes we had to be bribed with a bunch of free chit, including a chance to “WIN A MILKION DOLLARS”..just so we could get back to normal..
[url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fox19.com/2021/05/12/everything-you-need-know-about-ohios-million-vaccination-sweepstakes/%3foutputType=amp[/url]
Herp Derp[/QUOTE]
Naa I was already vaxxed long before any bribing was announced but I'll take the 1.5Mil :p
[QUOTE=LWW;1639585573]Everyone wants to help out, get vaccinated, save a life, we will give you a prize.......
The prize is diabetes........
Makes tons of sense!!!![/QUOTE]
Shush you only got vaxxed to win a mil.
[QUOTE=LWW;1639585573]Everyone wants to help out, get vaccinated, save a life, we will give you a prize.......
The prize is diabetes........
Makes tons of sense!!!![/QUOTE]
But if we don’t keep em fat..how will they not be convinced to take our jab..?
“Adults with excess weight are at even greater risk during the COVID-19 pandemic: Having obesity increases the risk of severe illness from COVID-19. People who are overweight may also be at increased risk. Having obesity may triple the risk of hospitalization due to a COVID-19 infection.”
[url]https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/obesity-and-covid-19.html[/url]
Herp Derp
They also seemed to magnetize their test subjects as well..srs. Not srs
[url]https://www.bitchute.com/video/wmcHsS3zco9r/[/url]
I guess they are truly making zombies here..they even wrote about it lol
[url]https://www.cdc.gov/cpr/zombie/index.htm[/url]
[QUOTE=Paul Kreul;1639584993]You are clearly are out of your element here. My argument from the beginning if you go back & re-read the pist, is that why did they not include people whom have had Covid if Faucci is stating that 90% of the people need to be vaccinated. Side not, they gave the vaccine to the placebo group after a few weeks, so we will never know the long term effects..funny how that works..clearly this is still lost on you. I then posted that those whom have had Covid do not need the vaccine..& linked the following..
[url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/11/17/health/coronavirus-immunity.amp.html[/url]
[url]https://academic.oup.com/jid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/infdis/jiab255/6274562[/url]
But you keep up the larp, clearly you don’t want to go back and quote my post because you know exactly what I stated.
Also just lol @ the “new super speedy trial test” for this vaccine. Ffs...I cannot believe how naive you are, truly.
In other news, Moderna came out stating their vaccine is 100 percent effective in teens..
“Moderna says its Covid vaccine is 100% effective in teens, plans to seek FDA OK in early June”
[url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/05/25/covid-vaccine-moderna-says-shot-is-100percent-effective-in-teens-plans-to-seek-fda-ok-in-june.html[/url]
So Moderna is claiming 100% effective in a group of people that already have a 100% survival rate. Isn’t that AWESOME! This is why I don’t care about someone’s academic pedigree. I would not buy a Granny Smith Apple from someone whom obfuscates reality at ever chance imaginable.
Next up, Moderna comes up with a vaccine that prevents death from paper cuts...this too will be 100% effective of course. The gulliblness here is mind blowing[/QUOTE]
There is so much wrong in this post. It's like you just vomited on the keyboard. LoL. I can't be bothered to address all the inaccuracies in your tangents.
Do you believe people with antibodies should be included in vaccine trials or not?
Please explain how the vaccines "has not been tested long enough to understand efficacy".
[QUOTE=Cass40;1639585653]
Shush you only got vaxxed to win a mil.[/QUOTE]
If I won a million for being vaxxed, I'd give it all to a poor white person:)
[QUOTE=Cass40;1639584673]Huh? So in your state you're not included if you got vaxxed before a certain date? Makes no sense.[/QUOTE]
It makes no sense to include the people already vaccinated. It’s supposed to be an incentive to the mouth breathing Neanderthals who don’t follow the science to get vaccinated. It’s not supposed to reward the aloof, science following, socialites who got it early. They already won the lottery in ******** and Twitter likes, not to mention they lived through this horrific tragedy bestowed upon humankind. Which, ironically, was the result of a bat on vacation a few hundred miles from home, who ended up fuking a pangolin at a fish market in wuhan. Coincidentally, this “fling” happened just down the street from a viral research lab that occasionally dabbles with coronaviruses. At least that’s what I heard.
IMO, and everyone has one, the reaction to this entire thing has been a cluster fuk. Other than the speed of vaccine, which is commendable, it was a giant failure. “Science” went batchit (pun) crazy with ineffective measures that did very little and in some cases were counterproductive in terms of what public health interventions should be. More care should have been taken to effectively protect the people who needed protecting (elderly etc.). Instead it was used as a political tool to divide the population. We all failed.
That said, Paul somehow eluded to something that I do agree with, had this been a more severe deadly viral disease, the quarantining and mitigation methods (distancing primarily) would not have been a problem at all. In fact, people would have quarantined like their lives depended on it. Likely to the extent that we would have been thrust back to the 1800s with no power, water, sewer, and likely no food, gasoline, and everything else we rely on others work to provide for us in modern society. So I’d rather a silly rag over my face than have that happen.
We can all rest assured that this about over, and we should be happy. Big pharma got their profits locked in on annual boosters for the “smart ones”, and now it’s time to get back out there and spend those covid bucks and get this economy fired up. Things might cost a little more in the next few years from inflation resulting from the dilution of our currency for the stimulus, but we can figure that out then. I’m so happy I can lift without a mask I practically run up to random people and lick their faces.
[QUOTE=LWW;1639587463]If I won a million for being vaxxed, [b]I'd give it all to a poor white person[/b]:)[/QUOTE]
Thank you! :)
[QUOTE=Cass40;1639588253]Excuse me, can you repeat? :p
In Cali everyone vaxxed is included in the lottery even minors.
Tbh, I'm so weird that I think about North Koreans and how they prolly oblivious there's even a virus, and they prolly have zero cases, yet they are suffering beyond comprehension. Anyway, a lot of suffering has happened here too in our beloved America.[/QUOTE]
You need to unquote my quoted post lady; you can re-quote it, if you so desire. I had to correct some errors. Slow down there, speedy.
N Korea would suck. Although I’m pretty sure if some of our politicians had their way, the US would be just like that if they were in “rocket mans” position.
[QUOTE=Plateauplower;1639588373]You need to unquote my quoted post lady; you can re-quote it, if you so desire. I had to correct some errors. Slow down there, speedy.[/QUOTE]
I deleted it.
[QUOTE=Plateauplower;1639587753]It makes no sense to include the people already vaccinated. It’s supposed to be an incentive to the mouth breathing Neanderthals who don’t follow the science to get vaccinated. It’s not supposed to reward the aloof, science following, socialites who got it early. They already won the lottery in ******** and Twitter likes, not to mention they lived through this horrific tragedy bestowed upon humankind. Which, ironically, was the result of a bat on vacation a few hundred miles from home, who ended up fuking a pangolin at a fish market in wuhan. Coincidentally, this “fling” happened just down the street from a viral research lab that occasionally dabbles with coronaviruses. At least that’s what I heard.
IMO, and everyone has one, the reaction to this entire thing has been a cluster fuk. Other than the speed of vaccine, which is commendable, it was a giant failure. “Science” went batchit (pun) crazy with ineffective measures that did very little and in some cases were counterproductive in terms of what public health interventions should be. More care should have been taken to effectively protect the people who needed protecting (elderly etc.). Instead it was used as a political tool to divide the population. We all failed.
That said, Paul somehow eluded to something that I do agree with, had this been a more severe deadly viral disease, the quarantining and mitigation methods (distancing primarily) would not have been a problem at all. In fact, people would have quarantined like their lives depended on it. Likely to the extent that we would have been thrust back to the 1800s with no power, water, sewer, and likely no food, gasoline, and everything else we rely on others work to provide for us in modern society. So I’d rather a silly rag over my face than have that happen.
We can all rest assured that this about over, and we should be happy. Big pharma got their profits locked in on annual boosters for the “smart ones”, and now it’s time to get back out there and spend those covid bucks and get this economy fired up. Things might cost a little more in the next few years from inflation resulting from the dilution of our currency for the stimulus, but we can figure that out then. I’m so happy I can lift without a mask I practically run up to random people and lick their faces.[/QUOTE]
[img]https://media4.giphy.com/media/HyDAt79JnlY4M/giphy.gif [/img]
Wait..it's ten people getting 1.5 mil and additional 30 people getting 50k. My odds just went up :cool:
So Cali has 40 million people and let's say half get vaxxed so my chances for 1.5 mil is 1 out of 500k? Not bad not brad.
[QUOTE=Cass40;1639588913]I deleted it.[/QUOTE]
TY!
[QUOTE=ChazWood;1639589203][img]https://media4.giphy.com/media/HyDAt79JnlY4M/giphy.gif [/img][/QUOTE]
Someday I learn to make those movie pictures in posts.
[QUOTE=mgftp;1639587433]There is so much wrong in this post. It's like you just vomited on the keyboard. LoL. I can't be bothered to address all the inaccuracies in your tangents.
Do you believe people with antibodies should be included in vaccine trials or not?
Please explain how the vaccines "has not been tested long enough to understand efficacy".[/QUOTE]
No, they should not be included, & they should have not the placebo group actually take the very fukin thing they were trying to establish control for. Now having said that, why does Faucci state that 90% of the population must be vaccinated? I posted several links for this.
Again, normal approval process is 3-5 years of animal trials, followed by 3-5 years of human trials. Every previous mRNa "vaccine" candidate was withdrawn before or during animal trials due to lack of efficacy combined with serious safety concerns.
[QUOTE=Cass40;1639589433]Wait..it's ten people getting 1.5 mil and additional 30 people getting 50k. My odds just went up :cool:
So Cali has 40 million people and let's say half get vaxxed so my chances for 1.5 mil is 1 out of 500k? Not bad not brad.[/QUOTE]
Lol, curious how that drawing will go. Could totally see Nancy Pelosi’s entire family winning, probably Newsome too; cause you know, it’s possible, scientifically.
[QUOTE=Plateauplower;1639590213]Lol, curious how that drawing will go. Could totally see Nancy Pelosi’s entire family winning, probably Newsome too; cause you know, it’s possible, scientifically.[/QUOTE]
About as likely as the chances of you dying from Covid.
[QUOTE=mgftp;1639587433]There is so much wrong in this post.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. What sane person eats Granny Smith apples? Lol.
This thread made me wonder about perseveration, so I asked a specialist about it. Yeah, I know, silly, right? But I was talking with her about something else anyway, and I was curious.
Initially she laughed at me for even worrying about whether ignoring someone online could be bad for them. I was thinking maybe it's a cry for help or something not to be ignored. The opposite is more likely. Engaging apparently reinforces the perseveration. (I also learned the difference between enabling and reinforcing.)
Did everyone but me know we could actually do someone harm by responding, even politely, to their posts?
[QUOTE=JustTheDad;1639590483]This thread made me wonder about perseveration, so I asked a specialist about it. Yeah, I know, silly, right? But I was talking with her about something else anyway, and I was curious.
Initially she laughed at me for even worrying about whether ignoring someone online could be bad for them. I was thinking maybe it's a cry for help or something not to be ignored. The opposite is more likely. Engaging apparently reinforces the perseveration. (I also learned the difference between enabling and reinforcing.)
[b]Did everyone but me know we could actually do someone harm by responding, even politely, to their posts?[/b] [/QUOTE]
The internet, specifically old folks misc, is a dangerous game my friend. Hurt feelz is a risk we each must contemplate before engaging.
[QUOTE=JustTheDad;1639590483]This thread made me wonder about perseveration, so I asked a specialist about it. Yeah, I know, silly, right? But I was talking with her about something else anyway, and I was curious.
Initially she laughed at me for even worrying about whether ignoring someone online could be bad for them. I was thinking maybe it's a cry for help or something not to be ignored. The opposite is more likely. Engaging apparently reinforces the perseveration. (I also learned the difference between enabling and reinforcing.)
Did everyone but me know we could actually do someone harm by responding, even politely, to their posts?[/QUOTE]
Honestly I was not aware, but if someone is eating Granny Smith apples I am not really sure what I can do to convince them otherwise.
[QUOTE=Plateauplower;1639590213]Lol, curious how that drawing will go. Could totally see Nancy Pelosi’s entire family winning, probably Newsome too; cause you know, it’s possible, scientifically.[/QUOTE]
That boney ass Pelosi broad got a lot of dough for a civil servant. I mean the numbers dont add up. You guys should look into that.
[QUOTE=7Seconds;1639591023]Honestly I was not aware, but if someone is eating Granny Smith apples I am not really sure what I can do to convince them otherwise.[/QUOTE]
What do apples have to do with perversion though? My dog has it and I never see him on the Internet. He’s constantly licking himself, really makes a production out of it.