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[QUOTE=Plateauplower;1654589463]Here are a few I grabbed with a couple minutes of random scrolling...[/QUOTE]
I don't see a single example of anything even close to "adamant that everyone had to get vaxxed or everyone was gonna die"
[QUOTE=eomrat;1654590133]It is really hard to take you serious. You say a lot of things that seem untrue. I am fully vaxxed, and have a broad network of friends and family all over the world.
I have never heard a real person claim the vaccines were killing people.
I also have never known a single person who died from Covid and less than a handful who have been hospitalized.[/QUOTE]
Sorry you feel that way. In the main misc I troll a bit but ITT most of my posts are fairly serious. What have I said that seems untrue?
Go into the main misc and the average miscer will tell you vaxxed are dropping like flies.
And that is great, I dunno what to tell ya. Perhaps I run in an unlucky unhealthy riskeir crowd than you?
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[QUOTE=NorwichGrad;1654589753]Anybody in the jab camp who wishes people in the unjab camp to die of covid is just as evil as someone in the unjab camp who wishes someone in the jab camp to die of side effects.
The rona is real. Ain't nobody denying it. But wake up, all, on both sides. The criminals behind the curtain using the rona as part of their 'never let a good crisis go to waste' campaign are succeeding in their efforts to not only enslave humanity, but to also make us hate each other.
If you wish to take the jab, no sweat.
If you trust your natural immunity and not take it, no sweat.
Freedom and personal choice matter.[/QUOTE]
yes !
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[QUOTE=NorwichGrad;1654589753]Anybody in the jab camp who wishes people in the unjab camp to die of covid is just as evil as someone in the unjab camp who wishes someone in the jab camp to die of side effects.
The rona is real. Ain't nobody denying it. But wake up, all, on both sides. The criminals behind the curtain using the rona as part of their 'never let a good crisis go to waste' campaign are succeeding in their efforts to not only enslave humanity, but to also make us hate each other.
If you wish to take the jab, no sweat.
If you trust your natural immunity and not take it, no sweat.
Freedom and personal choice matter.[/QUOTE]
Well said, those goats must be talking to sense into you :p
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[QUOTE=Plateauplower;1654595623]Well said, those goats must be talking to sense into you :p[/QUOTE]
I'm telling you, bruh. Hanging out with goats bring enlightenment.
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[QUOTE=mgftp;1654592853]
[B]Go into the main misc[/b] and the average miscer will tell you vaxxed are dropping like flies.
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Good lord
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[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1654590963]No, he makes sense, especially if he is over 35 and knows lots of people in his circles. Bening older usually comes with health issues.
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Strong delusion.
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[QUOTE=fishnbrah;1654584953]i would only do something like that to give you a hitler.[/QUOTE]
I had to use google to understand that.
Who thinks of these things?
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[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1654590963]No, he makes sense, especially if he is over 35 and knows lots of people in his circles. Bening older usually comes with health issues.
My stepmother in NJ almost died and at 1 point was telling me about 5-6 deaths per month(friends) in Houston that were dying.
Despite what you may think Americans are not the healthiest people on Earth; think about who you see when out and about, and i bet you will agree.
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I don't know, Ben. Unless you worked in a NY nursing home or are counting patients while working in a hospital, knowing 40, or even 20 people who have died from COVID would be pretty extreme. My parents are around 80 and I don't think they know 20 people who have died of COVID, and they have friends and family all over NY/NJ/Florida. Even if you had a 25% mortality rate pre vaccine, so 1 in 4 died, to get to 40, you'd have to know 160 people who were over 80 and caught COVID before the vaccines were around. That's a lot! And the only place I know of where the CFR got close to 25% was in Italy, pre vaccines back when they got slammed and didn't even have enough oxygen to take care of people in the hospitals. NYC might have done that too, but still, you'd have to know a LOT of people who were pretty old and who got sick pre-vaccine.
Or maybe I just underestimate how many people some of you guys know since I'm an unlikable guy who avoids others ;)
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[QUOTE=JustTheDad;1654606953]I had to use google to understand that.
Who thinks of these things?[/QUOTE]
You Googled Hitler at work? Brave.
[QUOTE=JustTheDad;1654607863]I don't know, Ben. Unless you worked in a NY nursing home or are counting patients while working in a hospital, knowing 40, or even 20 people who have died from COVID would be pretty extreme. My parents are around 80 and I don't think they know 20 people who have died of COVID, and they have friends and family all over NY/NJ/Florida. Even if you had a 25% mortality rate pre vaccine, so 1 in 4 died, to get to 40, you'd have to know 160 people who were over 80 and caught COVID before the vaccines were around. That's a lot! And the only place I know of where the CFR got close to 25% was in Italy, pre vaccines back when they got slammed and didn't even have enough oxygen to take care of people in the hospitals. NYC might have done that too, but still, you'd have to know a LOT of people who were pretty old and who got sick pre-vaccine.
Or maybe I just underestimate how many people some of you guys know since I'm an unlikable guy who avoids others ;)[/QUOTE]
I don't think he meant people he directly knows though with the number 40, and I don't when I say I know of 20. He said "I know of at least 40 people who died as a direct result of the covid infection. When I factor in the amount of people that everyone in my network knows that died from covid... the numbers are horrifying ." I stopped by a clinic today in which the receptionist's parents both died from Covid, there is a quick 2 towards my 20. In his words, "when I factor in the amount of people that everyone in my networks knows" the numbers can add up pretty quickly if you are a very social person or have a career in which you have a lot of different points of contact.
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[QUOTE=mgftp;1654608553]
I don't think he meant people he directly knows though with the number 40, and I don't when I say I know of 20. He said "I know of at least 40 people who died as a direct result of the covid infection. When I factor in the amount of people that everyone in my network knows that died from covid... the numbers are horrifying ." I stopped by a clinic today in which the receptionist's parents both died from Covid, there is a quick 2 towards my 20. In his words, "when I factor in the amount of people that everyone in my networks knows" the numbers can add up pretty quickly if you are a very social person or have a career in which you have a lot of different points of contact.[/QUOTE]
That is true, I thought Ben said knew, not knew of. Apologies.
The excess deaths data is very sad when you think of the numbers as people who could have had a few more Christmases or Birthdays with their families, and not just as numbers.
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[QUOTE=JustTheDad;1654606953]I had to use google to understand that.
Who thinks of these things?[/QUOTE]
The writers of South Park. Srs
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[QUOTE=fishnbrah;1654610983]The writers of South Park. Srs[/QUOTE]
Somehow that fits. Did you know Trey Parker is also musically talented and wrote the Chocolate Salty Balls song?
So has Kenny died of COVID yet? He must have, right?
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[QUOTE=fishnbrah;1654605013]Strong delusion.[/QUOTE]
Repeating i disagree (or strong delusion)......because it isn't what you are experiencing in a small circle doesn't mean he is automatically lying.
That is the diff in the ov35, we don't lie as much as the rest of bb.com. :)
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[QUOTE=JustTheDad;1654607863]I don't know, Ben. Unless you worked in a NY nursing home or are counting patients while working in a hospital, knowing 40, or even 20 people who have died from COVID would be pretty extreme. My parents are around 80 and I don't think they know 20 people who have died of COVID, and they have friends and family all over NY/NJ/Florida. Even if you had a 25% mortality rate pre vaccine, so 1 in 4 died, to get to 40, you'd have to know 160 people who were over 80 and caught COVID before the vaccines were around. That's a lot! And the only place I know of where the CFR got close to 25% was in Italy, pre vaccines back when they got slammed and didn't even have enough oxygen to take care of people in the hospitals. NYC might have done that too, but still, you'd have to know a LOT of people who were pretty old and who got sick pre-vaccine.
Or maybe I just underestimate how many people some of you guys know since I'm an unlikable guy who avoids others ;)[/QUOTE]
Well she is a huge church mega person in Houston, seattle, ny and nj, and these folks like to eat and drink plus many are fat with issues ,so i suspect many fall under the BIG MISC *OLD FATASS* label.
She isn't the lying type, so i can't see why she would lie about covid related deaths, at least to someone she considers her son.
Perhaps i am mistaken and people "get off" talking about covid deaths.
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[QUOTE=mgftp;1654608553]You Googled Hitler at work? Brave.
I don't think he meant people he directly knows though with the number 40, and I don't when I say I know of 20. He said "I know of at least 40 people who died as a direct result of the covid infection. When I factor in the amount of people that everyone in my network knows that died from covid... the numbers are horrifying ." I stopped by a clinic today in which the receptionist's parents both died from Covid, there is a quick 2 towards my 20. In his words, "when I factor in the amount of people that everyone in my networks knows" the numbers can add up pretty quickly if you are a very social person or have a career in which you have a lot of different points of contact.[/QUOTE]
nailed it!
church circles(thousands in churches)
work circle ( hundreds)
family circle (a hundred)
friends circle( 50)
friends of friends and their family( hundreds)
so between all those above you can hit double digits easily
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[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1654615683]Repeating i disagree (or strong delusion)......because it isn't what you are experiencing in a small circle doesn't mean he is automatically lying.
That is the diff in the ov35, we don't lie as much as the rest of bb.com. :)[/QUOTE]
There’s no help for you if you believe him boyo. But I know you’re only going to push your narrative and never push back on blatant fabrications
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[QUOTE=fishnbrah;1654616533]There’s no help for you if you believe him boyo. But I know you’re only going to push your narrative and never push back on blatant fabrications[/QUOTE]
i dont know his post history maybe you do, my only point was that it isn't an unreasonable number if you have a large circle that includes unvaxxed against og covid, 1.0, 2020 version.
when you know people in real life it isn't an outlandish figure
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[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1654616913]i dont know his post history maybe you do, my only point was that it isn't an unreasonable number if you have a large circle that includes unvaxxed against og covid, 1.0, 2020 version.
[/QUOTE] while I don’t personally know anyone who died of covid I know probably 10 people who tested positive in the last month or so. 9 were vaxed, 1 unvaxed. One of the 9 was hospitalized and obese.
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[QUOTE=Tommy W.;1654618813]while I don’t personally know anyone who died of covid I know probably 10 people who tested positive in the last month or so. 9 were vaxed, 1 unvaxed. One of the 9 was hospitalized and obese.[/QUOTE]
We had two die in our family (wife’s side) both late 50s and not long for the earth with significant underlying conditions. He (outdoorsbrah) claimed 40 in his social network, which is a lie unless he networks with people in end of care facilities (hospice). It’s never been what was represented. Had it been handled differently, the outcome would have been better. I’ve lost all faith in our public health system. Initially, I felt this would be the needed stimuli to improve public health, but instead the public health sector proved that they are devoid of ethics, as an industry. Sadly, this will come back to bite us in the future as funding will be cut as soon as these dip$hits get voted out. It’s unfortunate because I believe in actual science, it’s just been completely ruined by this.
Most of my college career was focused on studying communicable diseases. I excelled at it because I find them fascinating, both the biological and social aspects of them. I still do. I’m just really disgusted with how this has gone.
Goat man hit the nail on the head. The most exploited pandemic in history is an accurate description. We are still hemorrhaging future tax dollars on this ineffective course for the sake of politicians enriching themselves on the backs of our kids and grandkids. It’s sad.
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[QUOTE=mgftp;1654592853]I don't see a single example of anything even close to "adamant that everyone had to get vaxxed or everyone was gonna die"[/QUOTE]
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I personally know three people who have died from COVID but none of the three was in great health to begin with.
One I served with, he was a disabled vet with serious back issues, was overweight, and slept with a CPAP.
Another I knew from my strength sport days, he was overweight and had heart issues. He barely survived a widowmaker a few years ago.
The third was on death's door three times before due to serious motorcycle accidents and had a slew of health issues because of it.
All three had serious underlying issues before getting sick.
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[QUOTE=fishnbrah;1654548493]Knew A few people hospitalized or
knew 40 people who died from covid. Big difference. He’s full of ****, doubt he knows 40 people total irl. You vaxcels love your lies though[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tommy W.;1654548983]While there is no doubt that covid is a real thing I find it very hard to believe that 40 people in your network died in the last year or so and let alone directly from covid.[/QUOTE]
Considering that our division in the company I work for and manage, is over 300 people alone (not including field agents), and not including my personal network.. yes that number is not just feasible, but low given the danger of Covid. If you think that my social circle is anomalous... then you need to get out more and spend less time on the internet SRS
If refusing to accept reality helps you sleep at night, that's your prerogative. But it doesn't change reality and empirical science. I'd make a snide remark.. but I did that already in the past and one of those people ended up passing away from Covid complications, so no-one "won" in the end. I can tell neither of you have truly experienced loss from this virus, because when you do it will humble your tone and demeanor very quick... even the most staunch deniers and anti-vaxx nuts that I know eventually got humbled in the end, and so will you both. I wish you both the best of luck and health moving forward SRS
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[QUOTE=OutdoorsBrah;1654635843]Considering that our division in the company I work for and manage, is over 300 people alone (not including field agents), and not including my personal network.. yes that number is not just feasible, but low given the danger of Covid. If you think that my social circle is anomalous... then you need to get out more and spend less time on the internet SRS
If refusing to accept reality helps you sleep at night, that's your prerogative. But it doesn't change reality and empirical science. I'd make a snide remark.. but I did that already in the past and one of those people ended up passing away from Covid complications, so no-one "won" in the end. I can tell neither of you have truly experienced loss from this virus, because when you do it will humble your tone and demeanor very quick... even the most staunch deniers and anti-vaxx nuts that I know eventually got humbled in the end, and so will you both. I wish you both the best of luck and health moving forward SRS[/QUOTE]
Just finished my 3rd bout with Covid and I remain unvaccinated with zero intention of ever getting a Covid fakeccine. I also know several unvaccinated people personally who have died from Covid.
When I get sick I stay home from work so that I don't infect others.
What do the vaccinated do when they get sick?
They cough and sneeze all over the place while they pontificate on the effectiveness of the fraudccine.
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[QUOTE=BK909;1654636553]Just finished my 3rd bout with Covid and I remain unvaccinated with zero intention of ever getting a Covid fakeccine. I also know several unvaccinated people personally who have died from Covid.
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I don't think this is the own you think it is.
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[QUOTE=Jtbny;1654644553]I don't think this is the own you think it is.[/QUOTE]
I'm too grown for own.
Freedom > Everything
There are far worse things than death but some people will do and say anything for more time.
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[QUOTE=BK909;1654644753]I'm too grown for own.
Freedom > Everything
There are far worse things than death but some people will do and say anything for more time.[/QUOTE]
Um ya...me. But hey I'm all for the freedom of you and your unvaxxed crew to do whatever. Seems to be working...
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[QUOTE=Jtbny;1654644923]Um ya...me. But hey I'm all for the freedom of you and your unvaxxed crew to do whatever. Seems to be working...[/QUOTE]
It's not working too well for the high blood pressure, diabetic, 25 years of obesity croud but the rest of us are doing just fine but best of luck on your lifetime boosters.
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That poster was claiming I said that, to which I was correcting. I am aware the sentiment has been had by others.
[QUOTE=BK909;1654645183]It's not working too well for the high blood pressure, diabetic, 25 years of obesity croud but the rest of us are doing just fine but best of luck on your lifetime boosters.[/QUOTE]
I am glad you wish him luck with the lifetime of boosters. Curious as to what you perceive as the increased risks of the lifetime of boosters in comparison to catching Covid at least once a year?
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[QUOTE=BK909;1654645183]It's not working too well for the high blood pressure, diabetic, 25 years of obesity croud but the rest of us are doing just fine but best of luck on your lifetime boosters.[/QUOTE]
Crowd***
Again not the own I think you think this is...
Guess I could just get Covid over and over, while watching people in my echo chamber own those libs screaming freedom from their death beds. Choices, choices...
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The last time I took something "needed" for my health from the government, I hallucinated and was sleep walking. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
