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[QUOTE=TryingBB;1643596783]Lol you know, you’re right. I was thinking about it as I typed but posted anyways.
Point was that an item is produced and distributed at almost 2x the cost which is reasonable enough I think.
But then it’s getting resold for about 10x the price and the buyer is buying it for the user with tax dollars. That’s just absurd!!
This was for motorized ones. Can be bought on Amazon for $750 (quick search - not sure what all it includes)[/QUOTE]
One of the issues in healthcare is that the "person" is on one side and everyone else is on the other side working together. We like to think that its us and our insurance company on one side and the vendors and providers on the other. It doesn't make logical sense that our insurance company would willingly allow higher charges. But then you dig into the details. Insurance companies are tied to profit percentages.They can't make over X percent per year. So using a random percentage of 20%, what do you think they make more money off of. A $2 tylenol or a $200 tylenol? As costs increase they get to raise their premiums, and their locked in percentages are of a much bigger pot of money. In the end we have a situation where the people providing the medicine and services are in alignment with the person paying the bills for us to drive up costs.
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[QUOTE=LWW;1643596463]I seriously doubt he eats double quarter pounders, two in a sitting.
I'm not stranger to cardio ethier, look up the word Chaffing which can be caused by endurance, I've suffered with that on weekly basis.[/QUOTE]
Why the hell would I want to eat 2 double quarter pounders? It's just garbage.
1500 calories
88 grams of fat (mostly bad fats)
2420 mg of sodium (that's over the daily recommended max)
94 grams of protien
84 grams of carbs
Here's is what I had last night for supper, just as much volume as your double burgers < 900 calories, 100 gr protien, 25.8 gr of fat, 50 gr of carbs
16 oz of Rainbow trout
626 calories
25 grams of fat (the good stuff)
0 carbs
95 grams of protien
160 mg sodium
and throw in a cup of rice for a side
240 calories
50 grams of carbs
5 grams protien
.8 gram fat
25 grams sodium
The chaffing doesn't mean you do a lot of cardio. It probably means you are fat or doing it wrong.
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[QUOTE=mtpockets;1643631343]Why the hell would I want to eat 2 double quarter pounders? It's just garbage.
1500 calories
88 grams of fat (mostly bad fats)
2420 mg of sodium (that's over the daily recommended max)
94 grams of protien
84 grams of carbs
Here's is what I had last night for supper, just as much volume as your double burgers < 900 calories, 100 gr protien, 25.8 gr of fat, 50 gr of carbs
16 oz of Rainbow trout
626 calories
25 grams of fat (the good stuff)
0 carbs
95 grams of protien
160 mg sodium
and throw in a cup of rice for a side
240 calories
50 grams of carbs
5 grams protien
.8 gram fat
25 grams sodium
The chaffing doesn't mean you do a lot of cardio. It probably means you are fat or doing it wrong.[/QUOTE]
I’ve had chaffing my whole life dumass back even when I was a teen at 18 I weighed 120-130# I would get it from mountain biking for 8 hours. It only hits me when I’ve done activity for over 6 hours and if intensity is high less.
Let’s see some high rep dead’s or squats from you, post in BH thread, I’ll match it, but you won’t youll just continue to blab on and on!
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[QUOTE=LWW;1643632283]I’ve had chaffing my whole life dumass back even when I was a teen at 18 I weighed 120-130# I would get it from mountain biking for 8 hours. It only hits me when I’ve done activity for over 6 hours and if intensity is high less.
Let’s see some high rep dead’s or squats from you, post in BH thread, I’ll match it, but you won’t youll just continue to blab on and on![/QUOTE]
They make products to alleviate the chaffing dumbass, one of them is called body glide. Hence my coment about doing it wrong.
I am not posting anything, this isn't a dick measuring contest. It was you bragging about eating a pound of garbage saying you doubt I ate the same. For once you were right, I don't eat the same and I posted my typical supper meal, a healthy meal with the same volume. That's it that's all!
It has absolutely nothing to do with high rep anything. Stop deflecting :D
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[QUOTE=mtpockets;1643632993]They make products to alleviate the chaffing dumbass, one of them is called body glide. Hence my coment about doing it wrong.
I am not posting anything, this isn't a dick measuring contest. It was you bragging about eating a pound of garbage saying you doubt I ate the same. For once you were right, I don't eat the same and I posted my typical supper meal, a healthy meal with the same volume. That's it that's all!
It has absolutely nothing to do with high rep anything. Stop deflecting :D[/QUOTE]
My goal is a 500 dead that’s my focus but I have a light day too which I will do higher reps to keep up on some cardio benefits.
I can dead lift for more reps and weight anything I ever could being smaller so I no longer at this moment do long endurance stuff.
When I was younger I thought it was hemroids and was embarrassing so I kept it to myself and just delt with it, it would hit me at work after 10 hours standing now I have an office job.
It would hit me right after the strongman contests from competing all day in summer heat and helping out all day.
In strongman strength and cardio is tested in most events but it short periods. Still burns all the same calories in the end.
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[QUOTE=LWW;1643635033]My goal is a 500 dead that’s my focus but I have a light day too which I will do higher reps to keep up on some cardio benefits.
I can dead lift for more reps and weight anything I ever could being smaller so I no longer at this moment do long endurance stuff.
When I was younger I thought it was hemroids and was embarrassing so I kept it to myself and just delt with it, it would hit me at work after 10 hours standing now I have an office job.
It would hit me right after the strongman contests from competing all day in summer heat and helping out all day.
In strongman strength and cardio is tested in most events but it short periods. Still burns all the same calories in the end.[/QUOTE]
Sounds like you need some lube for your angus. Careful there tater, there's no vaccine for prolapse.
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There's a guy at my gym who has herniated disk and he still lifts. He said he almost got to 600 DL before his back snapped. He's doing sumo DL's now and so am I, although mine was because of costo. Costo is going away thank gaawd. Daddy was right. I'm still doing sumo though, I wanna learn it.
Oh and we were complaining about octagon plates with the guy. :D and the bar..why does it have that smooth part? With sumo your grip goes to the smooth part and the bar slips.
Anyhoo..
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[QUOTE=Cass40;1643636853]There's a guy at my gym who has herniated disk and he still lifts. He said he almost got to 600 DL before his back snapped. He's doing sumo DL's now and so am I, although mine was because of costo. Costo is going away thank gaawd. Daddy was right. I'm still doing sumo though, I wanna learn it.
Oh and we were complaining about octagon plates with the guy. :D and the bar..why does it have that smooth part? With sumo your grip goes to the smooth part and the bar slips.
Anyhoo..[/QUOTE]
My initial mis-read of that post was soooo much more entertaining than what you actually typed.
I completely missed "DL's".
Mawashi... .
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[QUOTE=Cass40;1643636853]There's a guy at my gym who has herniated disk and he still lifts. He said he almost got to 600 DL before his back snapped. He's doing sumo DL's now and so am I, although mine was because of costo. Costo is going away thank gaawd. Daddy was right. I'm still doing sumo though, I wanna learn it.
Oh and we were complaining about octagon plates with the guy. :D and the bar..why does it have that smooth part? With sumo your grip goes to the smooth part and the bar slips.
Anyhoo..[/QUOTE]
I never saw an issue continuing lifting with herniated disc, just gotta heal it up is all and have to go lighter and work back up.
I’m stronger now from my last injury.
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[QUOTE=JustTheDad;1643639453]My initial mis-read of that post was soooo much more entertaining than what you actually typed.
I completely missed "DL's".
Mawashi... .[/QUOTE]
Lol. He will probably balloon to 600lbs. if he took the J&J vax. :)
[QUOTE=LWW;1643640423]I never saw an issue continuing lifting with herniated disc, just gotta heal it up is all and have to go lighter and work back up.
I’m stronger now from my last injury.[/QUOTE]
So you have herniated disk too? Do all the powerlifters get it eventually? I do not want to mess up my back. Anytime I feel anything in my back I switch to front squats and goblet squats. He on the other hand was saying front squat hurts his back too. Maybe it's different with that much weight on the bar dunno.
My anti vax buddy claims that my costo is caused by the vax lol.
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[QUOTE=Cass40;1643660733]
So you have herniated disk too? Do all the powerlifters get it eventually? [/QUOTE]
I don't believe I do, although on my last injury it felt like I had a sprained ankle when walking for several weeks, after I thought the injury healed, that is telling.
I'm now stronger.
This is the first time in years I've not had back pain.
Many lifters have come back from disk issues.
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Stay tuned, mtpockets news will report the cdc latest on mask requirements and Delta today.
You won’t hear it anywhere else!
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no not at all. i am waiting for this. hope shortly i will.
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[QUOTE=LWW;1643715393]Stay tuned, mtpockets news will report the cdc latest on mask requirements and Delta today.
You won’t hear it anywhere else![/QUOTE]
Spill the beans Tater, I only had music on most of the day, No time for news, Tuesdays, I do volunteer work making flyers for the local SPCA. Would you like a kitty? They just got one in called grumpy you may like?
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[QUOTE=mtpockets;1643716753]Spill the beans Tater, I only had music on most of the day, No time for news, Tuesdays, I do volunteer work making flyers for the local SPCA. Would you like a kitty? They just got one in called grumpy you may like?[/QUOTE]
You posted a news report today so your not telling the full truth.
Decades of chafing has made me one mean SOB! Every Friday I pulled an 18 hour shift and I usually had chafing earlier in the week too. I had to force myself to the bar for a drink at last call.
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[QUOTE=LWW;1643720103]You posted a news report today so your not telling the full truth.[/QUOTE]
WRONG, I spoke the full truth, your selective vision must have missed where I wrote [b] most of the day[/b]
[QUOTE=mtpockets;1643716753]Spill the beans Tater, I only had music on [b]most[/b] of the day, No time for news, Tuesdays, I do volunteer work making flyers for the local SPCA. Would you like a kitty? They just got one in called grumpy you may like?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LWW;1643720103]Decades of chafing has made me one mean SOB! Every Friday I pulled an 18 hour shift and I usually had chafing earlier in the week too. I had to force myself to the bar for a drink at last call.[/QUOTE]
When you go for your booster shot, get your doctor to give you something for that homie
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YOu said no time for news not little time for news.
No time means no time.
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Ok, you win! No time to argue i'm going kayaking before supper
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[QUOTE=LWW;1643720103]You posted a news report today so your not telling the full truth.
Decades of chafing has made me one mean SOB! Every Friday I pulled an 18 hour shift and I usually had chafing earlier in the week too. I had to force myself to the bar for a drink at last call.[/QUOTE]
I fuking bet its anal fissures u got and not chaffing. lol. Chafing, whatever. No man uses that word.
How do I know that's whatchugot? U look like a dude with anal fissures. :D
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[QUOTE=mtpockets;1643723113]Ok, you win! No time to argue i'm going kayaking before supper[/QUOTE]
Did it wear your mask?
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Getting vaccinated, or getting chipped? What sounds better?
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[quote=mgftp;1643744233]did it wear your mask?[/quote]xxx
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[QUOTE=LWW;1643577963]LOL you had to show insecurity by letting us all know you are not a fan of his.
Most of us don’t want to hang with him but I think he’s much tougher than Don.
I’d have a beer with Morgan though.[/QUOTE]
On the unlikely event you ended up out drinking with him, you'd be in big trouble, don't know his form these days but he used to be a ferocious drinker. Years back he was a financial journalist. His buddies would buy shares in low liquidity stocks, he'd tip them in his financial columns and the price would rise, his buddies would sell. A kind of variant of "pump and dump" scam. He never bought any and was very clever and they couldn't get him so they had to change the law (changing definition of market abuse and making civil burden of proof). Anyhow they had to change the law due to people like him. He never phoned these friends to discuss so no phone record pattern between article and their trades. What he did do was go out on notorious drinking binges with them spending obscene amounts of money, you know like ordering the most expensive drink possible because they could. The group he had buddies in were known as "The flaming Ferraris" and their drinking (and other powder based habits) were notorious. I think he'd be at least partly reformed, but this is no nice guy to have a quiet drink with.
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[QUOTE=OldFartTom;1643758413]On the unlikely event you ended up out drinking with him, you'd be in big trouble, don't know his form these days but he used to be a ferocious drinker. Years back he was a financial journalist. His buddies would buy shares in low liquidity stocks, he'd tip them in his financial columns and the price would rise, his buddies would sell. A kind of variant of "pump and dump" scam. He never bought any and was very clever and they couldn't get him so they had to change the law (changing definition of market abuse and making civil burden of proof). Anyhow they had to change the law due to people like him. He never phoned these friends to discuss so no phone record pattern between article and their trades. What he did do was go out on notorious drinking binges with them spending obscene amounts of money, you know like ordering the most expensive drink possible because they could. The group he had buddies in were known as "The flaming Ferraris" and their drinking (and other powder based habits) were notorious. I think he'd be at least partly reformed, but this is no nice guy to have a quiet drink with.[/QUOTE]
What a horrible guy how dare he make money without pulling a gun on someone.
I wouldn’t go out drinking with him though, just a beer. I would go out drinking with Ken Patera though but I don’t feel I’m man enough for to be in Kens presence.
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[QUOTE=ChazWood;1643743573]I fuking bet its anal fissures u got and not chaffing. lol. Chafing, whatever. No man uses that word.
How do I know that's whatchugot? U look like a dude with anal fissures. :D[/QUOTE]
I had to google that one, your right they show a picture of an angry balding man with anal fissures which looks like me, a grumpy bastard.
How in the world did you know about these anal fissures:D
BTW, no disco dancing when gots the chafing, good thing I don't work on my feet anymore.
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Washington Nationals players and staff: 12 positive Covid results - 11 of the 12 have been "vaccinated"...
[url]https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/31907066/sources-nationals-phillies-game-postponed-washington-deals-covid-19-outbreak[/url]
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[QUOTE=CommitmentRulz;1643842873]Washington Nationals players and staff: 12 positive Covid results - 11 of the 12 have been "vaccinated"...
[url]https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/31907066/sources-nationals-phillies-game-postponed-washington-deals-covid-19-outbreak[/url][/QUOTE]
Wow. We are going to see a lot of that. Vaccines don't prevent anyone from getting COVID. They do reduce the symptomatic risks, but as we have discussed, vaccines reduce the severity, prevent hospitalization and death. But, not for all. Some will still die.
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Yeah, it's an amazing effect. Vaccines do reduce your likelihood of catching the virus compared to unvaccinated people in the same situation
But.. after people have both doses they feel "Fk it, I'm vaccinated" and change behaviour and end up in the same kind of risk of catching it due to being far less careful, although the chance of it being serious is dramatically reduced after vaccination
Got to admit I have exactly that "FK it!" Feeling and don't mask and don't care any more. So the above is an observation not any criticism.
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This should be a joke, but it isn’t. The CDC is ending use of RAPID PCR tests for COVID as of 12/31.
Going forward:
“CDC encourages laboratories to consider adoption of a multiplexed method that can facilitate detection and differentiation of SARS-CoV-2 and influenza viruses”
Did you catch that?
“Labs should switch to new tests that can differentiate COVID vs flu”
Let me rephrase:
“Our tests never knew the difference between the flu and COVID-19. All of our data regarding the infection rate of COVID was mixed with that of Influenza, and has always been 100% unreliable”
[url]https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/2021/07-21-2021-lab-alert-Changes_CDC_RT-PCR_SARS-CoV-2_Testing_1.html?fbclid=IwAR2_w3RikChcFhrW30CBoW-xM6I0vppwYgho-L2nVFpM5wuuHB38YMIUJ_o[/url]
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I am double dosed and in excess of 3 weeks post shot, so i am considered protected but I don't plan on dropping protocols just yet, a bit of hand sanitization and throwing a piece of cloth on when going into a store for a few minutes isn't a big deal besides it may even stop me from getting the flu or common cold.
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[QUOTE=mtpockets;1643845053]I am double dosed and in excess of 3 weeks post shot, so i am considered protected but I don't plan on dropping protocols just yet, a bit of hand sanitization and throwing a piece of cloth on when going into a store for a few minutes isn't a big deal besides it may even stop me from getting the flu or common cold.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. I am 2 weeks behind you, so taking those simple precautions make perfect sense.
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[QUOTE=CommitmentRulz;1643844843]This should be a joke, but it isn’t. The CDC is ending use of RAPID PCR tests for COVID as of 12/31.
Going forward:
“CDC encourages laboratories to consider adoption of a multiplexed method that can facilitate detection and differentiation of SARS-CoV-2 and influenza viruses”
Did you catch that?
“Labs should switch to new tests that can differentiate COVID vs flu”
Let me rephrase:
“Our tests never knew the difference between the flu and COVID-19. All of our data regarding the infection rate of COVID was mixed with that of Influenza, and has always been 100% unreliable”
[url]https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/2021/07-21-2021-lab-alert-Changes_CDC_RT-PCR_SARS-CoV-2_Testing_1.html?fbclid=IwAR2_w3RikChcFhrW30CBoW-xM6I0vppwYgho-L2nVFpM5wuuHB38YMIUJ_o[/url][/QUOTE]
Pretty sure it was discussed in this thread that covid=flu. When the flu numbers came in low, most people finally realized covid=flu. Vaxxers were saying "oh look, masks prevented the flu". Just lol
Pretty sure I linked the CDC website and the variables CDC was using to categorized covid, which did not include a positive COVID test, but did include a lot of flu-like symptoms.
A lot of people are still in the denial phase.
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Most influenza diagnoses were clinical, not laboratory. Pound covid into everyone's heads non-stop and influenza suddenly disappears.
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[QUOTE=CommitmentRulz;1643842873]Washington Nationals players and staff: 12 positive Covid results - 11 of the 12 have been "vaccinated"...
[url]https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/31907066/sources-nationals-phillies-game-postponed-washington-deals-covid-19-outbreak[/url][/QUOTE]
Thanks for the article. This is a big story here in DC since the team is missing so many key players close to the trade deadline.
A few highlights worth quoting.
1."Martinez said all but one of those who tested positive have been vaccinated.
2.Those who tested positive have either no symptoms or minor symptoms, such as a head cold, the manager said.
3.Martinez believes the fact they are vaccinated has prevented or limited symptoms.
4."I encourage people to get vaccinated,'' Martinez said. "It does help. I'm seeing it firsthand. It's basically a small head cold, but they're doing fine.''
5.Sources told ESPN's Jeff Passan that a number of the breakthrough cases came from those given................................. **the single-shot Johnson & Johnson vaccine.**
Israel said over time J+J dropped into the 30% range compared to the 2 others at 80%
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This GD president won’t stop with this unvaccinated crap this guy has nothing else to talk about.
I have a relative age 90 she went the hospital yesterday for nothing she’s not Vaxed and she ain’t getting vaxed, her covid test is neg. they can’t find anything wrong (she did this for attention).
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[QUOTE=LWW;1643873663]This GD president won’t stop with this unvaccinated crap this guy has nothing else to talk about.
I have a relative age 90 she went the hospital yesterday for nothing she’s not Vaxed and she ain’t getting vaxed, her covid test is neg. they can’t find anything wrong (she did this for attention).[/QUOTE]
I think you're just pissed because he wants states to offer $100 to unvaccinated folks to get vaccinated.
Your own fault, you jumped on the first Vax train to leave the station... TOOT TOOT
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[QUOTE=LWW;1643873663]This GD president won’t stop with this unvaccinated crap this guy has nothing else to talk about.
[/QUOTE]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/qLxqjZY.jpg[/img]
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Fire up the masks, everyone.
[youtube]zEmStAgsnEA[/youtube]
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This covid crap is just getting out of hand man. Just too damned much!!
Please make it go away
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At least we're all safe from influenza.
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[QUOTE=mtpockets;1643882243][img]https://i.imgur.com/qLxqjZY.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
What an A-hole, can't he just fall over and be done with.
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[QUOTE=mtpockets;1643845053]I am double dosed and in excess of 3 weeks post shot, so i am considered protected but I don't plan on dropping protocols just yet, a bit of hand sanitization and throwing a piece of cloth on when going into a store for a few minutes isn't a big deal besides it may even stop me from getting the flu or common cold.[/QUOTE]
I'm vaxed but not there yet - I do see social distancing has become a habit which I'm fine with.
If I ever have to wear a mask in the gym again I won't be happy, if I gotta wear it in the store that's not a biggie.
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[QUOTE=CommitmentRulz;1643844843]This should be a joke, but it isn’t. The CDC is ending use of RAPID PCR tests for COVID as of 12/31.
Going forward:
“CDC encourages laboratories to consider adoption of a multiplexed method that can facilitate detection and differentiation of SARS-CoV-2 and influenza viruses”
Did you catch that?
“Labs should switch to new tests that can differentiate COVID vs flu”
Let me rephrase:
“Our tests never knew the difference between the flu and COVID-19. All of our data regarding the infection rate of COVID was mixed with that of Influenza, and has always been 100% unreliable”
[url]https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/2021/07-21-2021-lab-alert-Changes_CDC_RT-PCR_SARS-CoV-2_Testing_1.html?fbclid=IwAR2_w3RikChcFhrW30CBoW-xM6I0vppwYgho-L2nVFpM5wuuHB38YMIUJ_o[/url][/QUOTE]
When I read that it seems to indicate the cdc is telling the labs to use an assay that detects both covid and the flu rather than only covid to allow for the detection of both types of viruses from a single sample. An assay is like a “magnet” that attracts specific genetic sequences. By using two “magnets” specific to two different viruses at the same time you could attempt to detect both. Then again, the credibility of the cdc is not stellar at this point lol.
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[QUOTE=LWW;1643897923]What an A-hole, can't he just fall over and be done with.[/QUOTE]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/qPHOd0E.jpg[/img]
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[QUOTE=CommitmentRulz;1643844843]This should be a joke, but it isn’t. The CDC is ending use of RAPID PCR tests for COVID as of 12/31.
Going forward:
“CDC encourages laboratories to consider adoption of a multiplexed method that can facilitate detection and differentiation of SARS-CoV-2 and influenza viruses”
Did you catch that?
“Labs should switch to new tests that can differentiate COVID vs flu”
Let me rephrase:
“Our tests never knew the difference between the flu and COVID-19. All of our data regarding the infection rate of COVID was mixed with that of Influenza, and has always been 100% unreliable”
[url]https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/2021/07-21-2021-lab-alert-Changes_CDC_RT-PCR_SARS-CoV-2_Testing_1.html?fbclid=IwAR2_w3RikChcFhrW30CBoW-xM6I0vppwYgho-L2nVFpM5wuuHB38YMIUJ_o[/url][/QUOTE]
Unfortunately, you rephrased it to mean something completely different than what is actually the case.
The test they're phasing out was always very specific to SARS CoV2. It wouldn't have given a positive result for influenza. The primer sequence added to the test being phased out wouldn't bind to influenza, so you had to run a separate test for influenza. The CDC is asking labs to use one PCR test that contains primers that bind to both SARS CoV2 and Influenza, but can still differentiate which causes a positive test.
Essentially nobody who had a positive test with one of the RT assays they are phasing out had influenza. They had COVID. I'd have to see the details of the new assays and the old ones to see if the PPV and NPV are significantly different.
Remember, we can use a PCR test to amplify the genetic material at a crime scene to identify an individual person with a very high degree of specificity. Telling the difference between Influenza and COVID is easier than telling the difference between you and someone unrelated to you.
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Vaccines are like helmets, they only mitigate the severity not the risk
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[QUOTE=mtpockets;1643918123]Vaccines are like helmets, they only mitigate the severity not the risk[/QUOTE]
This is signature worthy my man, perfect!
I think people have gotten confused with all of the info on the news, in conversations, and online. Even i felt like superman after shot 2 until my best friend set me straight about what the shot is actually doing inside.
It is not a cure but with some luck a high percentage hospital preventive.
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[QUOTE=mtpockets;1643916173][img]https://i.imgur.com/qPHOd0E.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
Every time I talk to someone I know in another country who can't even get access to a vaccine they ask me if people here are stupid. People can't even begin to comprehend this portion of our population that are committed to conspiracy theories.
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[QUOTE=mgftp;1643923023]Every time I talk to someone I know in another country who can't even get access to a vaccine they ask me if people here are stupid. People can't even begin to comprehend this portion of our population that are committed to conspiracy theories.[/QUOTE]
When some very public figures began making wild statements publicly, things changed here. It saddens me so I have to unplug for sanity and that is why....... I don't do cable TV news.
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[QUOTE=JustTheDad;1643918083]Unfortunately, you rephrased it to mean something completely different than what is actually the case.
The test they're phasing out was always very specific to SARS CoV2. It wouldn't have given a positive result for influenza. The primer sequence added to the test being phased out wouldn't bind to influenza, so you had to run a separate test for influenza. The CDC is asking labs to use one PCR test that contains primers that bind to both SARS CoV2 and Influenza, but can still differentiate which causes a positive test.
Essentially nobody who had a positive test with one of the RT assays they are phasing out had influenza. They had COVID. I'd have to see the details of the new assays and the old ones to see if the PPV and NPV are significantly different.
Remember, we can use a PCR test to amplify the genetic material at a crime scene to identify an individual person with a very high degree of specificity. Telling the difference between Influenza and COVID is easier than telling the difference between you and someone unrelated to you.[/QUOTE]
Back during SARS-CoV, the standard was to test for influenza in the symptomatic, then test for SARS when influenza was ruled out. This time around, we were ass backwards.
