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[QUOTE=redmelly;1662298073]No, you won't have to get jabbed to go to Germany, or take a test. To re enter the US you need to get a test within 24 hours of flight but that may change June 15 - we have to wait and see.
[b]Germany to Loosen COVID-19 Entry Rules Over the Summer[/b]
Germany’s health minister says the government plans to suspend a pandemic rule requiring people to show proof of vaccination, a negative test result or recent recovery from COVID-19 to enter the country over the summer.
[url]https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2022-05-25/germany-to-loosen-covid-19-entry-rules-over-the-summer[/url][/QUOTE]
Yes I'm tracking that and I hope that it stays that way.... just prepared to do what is needed if I wanna go there.
There is also a chance I get put on orders to Germany for a year so Imma get the jab if I need to; if not I'm good for now.
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I wouldn't have been able to have traveled to Europe without being vaccinated. I just returned and it was amazing as that was my first time there.
That being said, the vaccinations have made me so ill that I don't want to get any more of them. The booster had me in bed for 4 days with a high fever and chills. That's worse than Covid itself!
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[QUOTE=DustinTheHuss;1662465413]I wouldn't have been able to have traveled to Europe without being vaccinated. I just returned and it was amazing as that was my first time there.
That being said, the vaccinations have made me so ill that I don't want to get any more of them. The booster had me in bed for 4 days with a high fever and chills. That's worse than Covid itself![/QUOTE]
Where did you go?
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[QUOTE=DustinTheHuss;1662465413]I wouldn't have been able to have traveled to Europe without being vaccinated. I just returned and it was amazing as that was my first time there.
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Sounds like you had a good time.. That's excellent.
Any good stories? The cringier the better..
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[QUOTE=DustinTheHuss;1662465413]I wouldn't have been able to have traveled to Europe without being vaccinated. I just returned and it was amazing as that was my first time there.
That being said, the vaccinations have made me so ill that I don't want to get any more of them. The booster had me in bed for 4 days with a high fever and chills. That's worse than Covid itself![/QUOTE]
Vaccines are not required to travel to Europe now. You can't go on a cruise without the vax but that's about it.
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[img]https://i.imgur.com/AfMI3Qn.png[/img]
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[QUOTE=mtpockets;1662794203][img]https://i.imgur.com/AfMI3Qn.png[/img][/QUOTE]Spot on!
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Yesterday the panel recommended authorization of Moderna and Pfizer’s vaccine for children under 5. EUA probably coming early next week.
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Ya know, the same thing happened the year i took the Flu shot, i got the flu and lost 5 days. :)
[QUOTE=mtpockets;1662794203][img]https://i.imgur.com/AfMI3Qn.png[/img][/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Reliance012;1662962853]Yesterday the panel recommended authorization of Moderna and Pfizer’s vaccine for children under 5. EUA probably coming early next week.[/QUOTE]
At a time when “the science” fauci has covid. Lol keep the scam alive shill.
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Da Fauch has the Wuhan, after being QUADRUPLE vaccinated, but would like to thank Pfizer because without them he’d be much worse off ! Believe in the science, like what is a woman or vaccine how bout borders. This is a pandemic of the unvaccinated, how many people have died from the vaccine, there’s not enough studies , just get the jab you serf, etc etc, Meh, just do what we say
Personally I detest, loathe this megalomaniac and I’m certain he’s not getting monoclonal anti bodies or remdasivr, not being able to see your dying loved ones unless of course it’s through a glass or zoom etc etc ! Reprobate scumbag and the hordes of his minions
I don’t believe in karma but
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[QUOTE=thomashenry;1662984663]Da Fauch has the Wuhan, after being QUADRUPLE vaccinated, but would like to thank Pfizer because without them he’d be much worse off ! Believe in the science, like what is a woman or vaccine how bout borders. This is a pandemic of the unvaccinated, how many people have died from the vaccine, there’s not enough studies , just get the jab you serf, etc etc, Meh, just do what we say
Personally I detest, loathe this megalomaniac and I’m certain he’s not getting monoclonal anti bodies or remdasivr, not being able to see your dying loved ones unless of course it’s through a glass or zoom etc etc ! Reprobate scumbag and the hordes of his minions
I don’t believe in karma but[/QUOTE]
Not sure what you're drinking but pass that bottle around.
As a recap I'm triple vaxed, shot 2 and 3 about killed me.
Worked closely with a person with Covid 3 weeks ago for 1/2 day, like real close, did not get it. Worked a few hours with another person last week that was positive, did not get it.
I have no opinion TBH, maybe the vax helped, maybe I'm immune, hell maybe I got it and didn't know.
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[QUOTE=Bando;1662990703]Not sure what you're drinking but pass that bottle around.
As a recap I'm triple vaxed, shot 2 and 3 about killed me.
Worked closely with a person with Covid 3 weeks ago for 1/2 day, like real close, did not get it. Worked a few hours with another person last week that was positive, did not get it.
I have no opinion TBH, maybe the vax helped, maybe I'm immune, hell maybe I got it and didn't know.[/QUOTE]
Just a rant about that clown Fauci who has the Wuhan, couldn’t help it I can’t stand the little tyrant prick !
Personally I couldn’t care less of someone gets the jab or doesn’t, they’re choice
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BA.4/BA.5 Omicron subvariants over 4 times more resistant to mRNA vaccines
ok so those don't work , so now what?
[url]www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/dominant-omicron-subvariants-more-resistant-to-mrna-vaccines[/url]
people are getting it around here and it is lasting 10+ days....
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[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1664359043]BA.4/BA.5 Omicron subvariants over 4 times more resistant to mRNA vaccines
ok so those don't work , so now what?
[url]www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/dominant-omicron-subvariants-more-resistant-to-mrna-vaccines[/url]
people are getting it around here and it is lasting 10+ days....[/QUOTE]just a wild concept but maybe let your natural immunity handle it?
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[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1664359043]BA.4/BA.5 Omicron subvariants over 4 times more resistant to mRNA vaccines
ok so those don't work , so now what?
[url]www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/dominant-omicron-subvariants-more-resistant-to-mrna-vaccines[/url]
people are getting it around here and it is lasting 10+ days....[/QUOTE]
This is the important bit I saw "Although the new research shows that immunity against the dominant Omicron subvariants appears to be waning, it’s important to note that mRNA vaccines continue to provide very durable B and T cell-based protection against severe outcomes from COVID-19, including hospitalization and death."
Basically you're more likely to get sick than before but being vaccinated still gives you better odds at avoiding serious outcomes. Risk/Reward tradeoff is still quite good for anyone who doesn't have certain forms of heart issues where the slight Myocardia risk is exaggerated. Eventually they're going to have to re-formulate the vaccine against a newer strain or more likely provide a multi-strain version. I expect this to be very similar to how things have gone with Influenza. Make your choices, take your chances, just like the rest of life.
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[QUOTE=Tommy W.;1664361133]just a wild concept but maybe let your natural immunity handle it?[/QUOTE]
Or maybe let vaccine and infection induced immunity handle it. Wild concept.
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[QUOTE=Reliance012;1664364723]Or maybe let vaccine and infection induced immunity handle it. Wild concept.[/QUOTE]yeah it’s been working so well. Might as well just keep pumping sh*t into your body every time there’s a new variant.
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[QUOTE=Tommy W.;1664361133]just a wild concept but maybe let your natural immunity handle it?[/QUOTE]
Not trying to be a dik, but let's break down what you said into bite size pieces.
If ba4/5 are new then how can a "natural immunity" fight against a "new" thing?
So by definition, it is new and your body has never been exposed to, or had to fight off this "new" thing before.
That would leave you vulnerable wouldn't it?
Just trying to be logical here.
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[QUOTE=blue9steel;1664362093]This is the important bit I saw "Although the new research shows that immunity against the dominant Omicron subvariants appears to be waning, it’s important to note that mRNA vaccines continue to provide very durable B and T cell-based protection against severe outcomes from COVID-19, including hospitalization and death."
Basically you're more likely to get sick than before but being vaccinated still gives you better odds at avoiding serious outcomes. Risk/Reward tradeoff is still quite good for anyone who doesn't have certain forms of heart issues where the slight Myocardia risk is exaggerated. Eventually they're going to have to re-formulate the vaccine against a newer strain or more likely provide a multi-strain version. I expect this to be very similar to how things have gone with Influenza. Make your choices, take your chances, just like the rest of life.[/QUOTE]
ok i will take severe outcome protection, thanks.
"very durable B and T cell-based protection against severe outcomes from COVID-19, including hospitalization and death."
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[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1664379453]
If ba4/5 are new then how can a "natural immunity" fight against a "new" thing?
So by definition, it is new and your body has never been exposed to, or had to fight off this "new" thing before.
That would leave you vulnerable wouldn't it?
Just trying to be logical here.[/QUOTE]
Probably the same way my natural immunity never allowed me to be infected with COVID in the first place.
Or it was simply so mild due to natural immunity that I didn't even know I had it. I recall having a slight headache for a couple days, which is rare for me to have.
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Long time since I've seen this thread. Got my first Covid, so that's cool.
[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1664359043]BA.4/BA.5 Omicron subvariants over 4 times more resistant to mRNA vaccines
ok so those don't work , so now what?
[url]www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/dominant-omicron-subvariants-more-resistant-to-mrna-vaccines[/url]
people are getting it around here and it is lasting 10+ days....[/QUOTE]
Just got Covid for the first time and I am on day 4 with it finally letting up (I hope). Never had any issues with breathing or anything that would make it life threatening. Worst was my fever spiking above 103 but a dose of Tylenol resolved that.
[QUOTE=_zman;1664383803]Probably the same way my natural immunity never allowed me to be infected with COVID in the first place.
Or it was simply so mild due to natural immunity that I didn't even know I had it. I recall having a slight headache for a couple days, which is rare for me to have.[/QUOTE]
It's pretty clear to me some people are just immune to Covid. Perhaps you are one of those lucky ones.
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[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1664379453]Not trying to be a dik, but let's break down what you said into bite size pieces.
If ba4/5 are new then how can a "natural immunity" fight against a "new" thing?
So by definition, it is new and your body has never been exposed to, or had to fight off this "new" thing before.
That would leave you vulnerable wouldn't it?
Just trying to be logical here.[/QUOTE]while that all sounds good on paper I’ll continue to trust my natural immunity. It has served me well so I’ll stick with that. If you want a vax then take the vax(es). I haven’t had so much as a cold since 1985 so I’m sticking with what works for me personally.
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[QUOTE=_zman;1664383803]Probably the same way my natural immunity never allowed me to be infected with COVID in the first place.
Or it was simply so mild due to natural immunity that I didn't even know I had it. I recall having a slight headache for a couple days, which is rare for me to have.[/QUOTE]
The only way to know for sure would be an antibody test, or you like me, got lucky and have not been exposed so far.
We will have time to test ourselves soon.
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[QUOTE=Tommy W.;1664384703]while that all sounds good on paper I’ll continue to trust my natural immunity. It has served me well so I’ll stick with that. If you want a vax then take the vax(es). I haven’t had so much as a cold since 1985 so I’m sticking with what works for me personally.[/QUOTE]
My father was like you, i realized it was all of the orange juice that he was drinking...
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[QUOTE=mgftp;1664384633]Long time since I've seen this thread. Got my first Covid, so that's cool.
Just got Covid for the first time and I am on day 4 with it finally letting up (I hope). Never had any issues with breathing or anything that would make it life threatening. Worst was my fever spiking above 103 but a dose of Tylenol resolved that.
It's pretty clear to me some people are just immune to Covid. Perhaps you are one of those lucky ones.[/QUOTE]
Hope you feel better quickly, i know 2 people locally that are at over 10 days testing positive.
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[QUOTE=Bando;1662990703]
Worked closely with a person with Covid 3 weeks ago for 1/2 day, like real close, did not get it. Worked a few hours with another person last week that was positive, did not get it.
I have no opinion TBH, maybe the vax helped, maybe I'm immune, hell maybe I got it and didn't know.[/QUOTE]
I'm triple vaxxed and got covid about a month ago. It took massive exposure for me to get it though (sleeping next to my covid-positive wife all night). The third shot was actually worse than actual covid TBH, but maybe that was the vaccine doing its thing. My brother (unvaxxed) got it and was sick for a solid two weeks. I only had two bad days, then pretty mild thereafter.
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Day 5 of Covid, fever resolved yesterday, and now I am left with some very minor cold/flu symptoms. Felt good enough to go out today and mow the lawn, trim hedges, and cut down some trees, although now I am pretty tired, might need a nap, ha. Besides the fever that is the biggest impact of Covid for me, the fatigue.
I am still testing positive, going to give me an excuse to take some more time off work next week, which is nice I guess.
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[QUOTE=mgftp;1664449593]Day 5 of Covid, fever resolved yesterday, and now I am left with some very minor cold/flu symptoms. Felt good enough to go out today and mow the lawn, trim hedges, and cut down some trees, although now I am pretty tired, might need a nap, ha. Besides the fever that is the biggest impact of Covid for me, the fatigue.
I am still testing positive, going to give me an excuse to take some more time off work next week, which is nice I guess.[/QUOTE]
The fatigue I had was legit next-level. Never experienced anything like it. It was almost a good feeling towards the end, when I would take a nap and wake up.
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Keep us posted, i like to hear how the fit and healthy respond to this compared to the stereotypical American that we see in pics.
