Will you get vaccinated?

[QUOTE=Jbizzlechizzle;1665050113]If you're going to remain in the U.S., I would recommend that you get used to an idea of a government. The anarchist types want this utopia where we are all just free to do whatever without any laws or governments. I'm not sure how anything productive ever gets done in this type of civilization. Maybe I'm wrong, but my vote would be for better government that isn't run by those with selfish/monetary interests. At the end of the day, the Constitution was supposed to be for and by "The People". Obviously, when it was written, the Constitution only gave a certain number of people inalienable rights, namely Caucasian men. Through amendments and court rulings, those inalienable rights have been expanded to other groups. That's called progress, and I would love to see more of that without big money interfering with the will of "The People".[/QUOTE]



You are a fool because you still look at this as only white men having rights.

You totally miss that poor people of all race have no fuking rights.

The constitution says “all men are created equal” so the utopia idea you call out was already in place.

No political force cares about poor, in fact the poor are used for a few purposes, to fight gubmit wars and provide work for lawmen.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/7F8tgQs.png[/img]

[QUOTE=LWW;1665053953]

The constitution says [b]“all men are created equal”[/b][/QUOTE]

That would be The Declaration of Independence.

[QUOTE=LWW;1665053953]You are a fool because you still look at this as only white men having rights.

You totally miss that poor people of all race have no fuking rights.

The constitution says “all men are created equal” so the utopia idea you call out was already in place.

No political force cares about poor, in fact the poor are used for a few purposes, to fight gubmit wars and provide work for lawmen.[/QUOTE] lol imagine you calling me a fool, when your reading comprehension skills obviously suck, and you clearly have no idea about anything as it relates to history.

Nice try tho.

LMAO at calling someone a fool and then posting this gem...


[QUOTE=LWW;1665053953]

The constitution says “all men are created equal” so the utopia idea you call out was already in place.
[/QUOTE]


Open mouth insert foot. You should just keep your trap shut, you would appear more intelligent.

[QUOTE=Corbi;1665034173]I see where people say they are a "registered" whatever, exactly what the hell does that mean? Here in Wisconsin the only thing we are registered for is to vote, they never ask what party and I have both dem & republican on the same ticket.

And Biden got 5 deferments for being a student, just keep going to school so you can avoid any conflicts.[/QUOTE]

In NY you must be registered to a party to vote in their primary.

[QUOTE=Jbizzlechizzle;1665054943]lol imagine you calling me a fool, when your reading comprehension skills obviously suck, and you clearly have no idea about anything as it relates to history.

Nice try tho.[/QUOTE]


Dude, you should at least get my point.

You are blinded by race baiting.

You and me, white man and black are equally stripped of rights because we don’t have money and power.

Once you a Black gets power you can squash me the white man and vice versa.

Don’t let syntex make you think I’m the fool. The reality is such, Mosbey has everything In life I could only dream of, only because they have wealth and power. And he won’t get you off a crime because your black although he might pull some strings if your financially in bed with him.

Stop looking at race.

[QUOTE=mtpockets;1665055033]LMAO at calling someone a fool and then posting this gem...





Open mouth insert foot. You should just keep your trap shut, you would appear more intelligent.[/QUOTE]



You could recite the entire dictionary by memory, reciting is only memorizing text.

IMO you are the biggest numb skull and a dbag to add on this board.

[QUOTE=LWW;1665060743]You could recite the entire dictionary by memory, reciting is only memorizing text.

IMO you are the biggest numb skull and a dbag to add on this board.[/QUOTE]

You fuked up... Own it instead of making excuses and you would look like less of an idiot or

perhaps stick to marbles and soap operas, leave the discussions to the adults :D

[QUOTE=LWW;1665060423]Dude, you should at least get my point.

You are blinded by race baiting.

You and me, white man and black are equally stripped of rights because we don’t have money and power.

Once you a Black gets power you can squash me the white man and vice versa.

Don’t let syntex make you think I’m the fool. The reality is such, Mosbey has everything In life I could only dream of, only because they have wealth and power. And he won’t get you off a crime because your black although he might pull some strings if your financially in bed with him.

Stop looking at race.[/QUOTE]Don't pretend to know MY experience. I've LIVED the black experience, and you will never understand that. I know fact from fiction. Nobody is race baiting me, but I know injustice when I see it. Of course, I understand that a lot of people are oppressed, especially the poor of all races. That was never the point.

Also, don't pretend to know what I have. I own two small businesses, and two homes, plus make a very nice salary from my day job. Power, well that's a different story. It's not something I ever want to have, tbh. I value the respect I get from my community over all of that.

Just to bring this back to the actual topic of Covid-19, i am observing a nasty trend with friends in Europe and friends here. This new version 8.0 is really wrecking folks for up to 2 weeks.
Now maybe you are Superman with Vibranium in your veins (yes mixing superheroes) so this doesn't apply to you, but for the rest of us mere mortals be careful. You have been warned in July before it comes for you.
Good luck, i hope that it is nothing but a cold,,,,,,, because you live a healthy lifestyle and you exercise/eat right.

[QUOTE=Jbizzlechizzle;1665050113]If you're going to remain in the U.S., I would recommend that you get used to an idea of a government. The anarchist types want this utopia where we are all just free to do whatever without any laws or governments. I'm not sure how anything productive ever gets done in this type of civilization. Maybe I'm wrong, but my vote would be for better government that isn't run by those with selfish/monetary interests. At the end of the day, the Constitution was supposed to be for and by "The People". Obviously, when it was written, the Constitution only gave a certain number of people inalienable rights, namely Caucasian men. Through amendments and court rulings, those inalienable rights have been expanded to other groups. That's called progress, and I would love to see more of that without big money interfering with the will of "The People".[/QUOTE]


The original law of the land was the Articles of Confederation. It was hijacked by the Constitution. There is NO ‘we the people’ there is only you and I the Sovereign Individual. We the people is inherently socialist.

The Bill of Rights were only added to the Constitution 4 years later to appease the anti-federalist. The Bill of Rights is the only thing good in the Constitution.

The other amendments are NOT good. The 14th amendment was actually bad for Blacks and minorities. The 14th failed to protect the rights of Blacks.

The 16th amendment was also bad. This is why we have 30 trillion in debt.

The 17th amendment was bad because it empowered the feral gubmint even more.

I can go on. I am well versed on the Constitution and the anti-federalists and federalists papers.

Freedom is simple. It is tyranny that’s complicated.

The Founders were born into a period where slavery had already been in existence for 2000 years. And Whites were not only the ones who promoted slavery. Africans and middle easterns and Asians also promoted slavery. But no. Let’s blame Whitey cuz CNN said so.

The Founders hated slavery. The Declaration meant when it says all men are created equal.

Wealthy whites back then had more voting power. And it made sense. Because they had a lot to lose if they made the wrong decision. Today even illegals can vote and the politicians who promise the most $hit wins.

In short. There is no saving America. Let it collapse so we can restart.

Hoping that gubmint will somehow be occupied by honorable people is pipe dream.

Freedom is the answer. Not more gubmint.

Freedom lovers like myself just want to be left alone. That is not utopia. That is honoring Lofe, Liberty and Pursuit of Happiness.

The belief that we should all think alike and do what gubmint says. That is utopia. And a dangerous one. Just ask all the famous authoritarians who have killed millions - Hitler, Stalin, Mao, etc.

Anarchists have never committed mass murder on unimaginable scale, but gubmints have.

When this system finally implodes, I hope many will see what we in the Liberty Movement have been preaching.

[QUOTE=pharmamarketer;1665040393]How are primaries settled? Anyone can vote regardless of part affiliation?[/QUOTE]

Yes.
I have voted for a democratic & a Republican senator at the same time. I have also voted for a republican governor yet voted dem for various other positions. I have thought the idea of a straight party ticket vote is asinine as I don't care what side you claim to be on, I vote for the person who's ideas and thought processes sound better regardless of a D or R before their name.

[QUOTE=Jbizzlechizzle;1665080483]Don't pretend to know MY experience. I've LIVED the black experience, and you will never understand that.
[/QUOTE]

Here you go with the race bait.

The “black experience” you sound like a parrot, who taught you that?

I’ll tell you what you got wrong, it’s “the minority experience”.

I know exactly what that experience can be when I’m the minority in a classroom or the area around, it’s not always like that, but it can. And I’m usually the minority in the culture of society.

I’ll tell you though one of the most uncomfortable places I’ve ever been was as a pre teen my parents drove to the beach and took the back way thru the corn fields, walking into the restaurant those white folks couldn’t stop giving us looks, they knew we were outsiders. I’m white too.

I got similar looks from blacks driving to work as a pre teen with my dad in Baltimore, had a few stick thier heads out car widows giving mean looks, sketchy.

[QUOTE=Corbi;1665034173]I see where people say they are a "registered" whatever, exactly what the hell does that mean? Here in Wisconsin the only thing we are registered for is to vote, they never ask what party and I have both dem & republican on the same ticket.
[/QUOTE]

See JTNBY's response.

[QUOTE=Corbi;1665034173]
And Biden got 5 deferments for being a student, just keep going to school so you can avoid any conflicts.[/QUOTE]

I was in college for Desert Storm/Shield, didn't get any deferments as it wasn't a draft situation.

If you're a coward and you get drafted, you can volunteer instead to do logistics, or a cook on a ship or something. At least your contributing to the war effort no matter how futile it seems.

[QUOTE=NorwichGrad;1665046683]
And speaking of presidents who are cowards. They all are. Who was the last pres to serve? Bam. Checkmate. You call out Trump but you protect the leftists dems. You think dem pres respect the military?
[/QUOTE]

President Bush Served as a Pilot in wartime in the Air National Guard.

On the anniversary of D-Day Trump would not speak because it was sprinkling, but was overheard by at least 5 people calling the war dead "suckers and losers."

A true Democrat, Clinton gave these remarks, 23:53 start for the lurkers as I know you won't watch it:

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7llXClvoozw[/url]

Chilling speech.

[QUOTE=NorwichGrad;1665083453]There is NO ‘we the people’ there is only you and I the Sovereign Individual. We the people is inherently socialist. [/QUOTE]

We the people sounds so good, equal and a fairy tale.

What's dangerous about it democracy is you are limited to what the majority of "the people" know or think. Think about that one, and this is where your free chit comes in.

Frank Zappa discovered this when he used to have his fans register to vote at his shows, at first he thought it was a wonderful thing, however he examined his audience and came to the conclusion, it's probably better if they stayed home on election day.

[QUOTE=Bando;1665092013]


I was in college for Desert Storm/Shield, didn't get any deferments as it wasn't a draft situation.

If you're a coward and you get drafted, you can volunteer instead to do logistics, or a cook on a ship or something. At least your contributing to the war effort no matter how futile it seems. [/QUOTE]

Not sure how you being in college has any relevance to Biden getting deferments during the Vietnam war?




[QUOTE=Bando;1665092013]

A true Democrat, Clinton gave these remarks, 23:53 start for the lurkers as I know you won't watch it:

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7llXClvoozw[/url]

Chilling speech.[/QUOTE]

You do realize I voted for Bill twice and was a fan of his? Also voted for stoneface Kerry in 2004 as well, that was the last time I voted Dem for a presidential race.

[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1665081503]Just to bring this back to the actual topic of Covid-19, i am observing a nasty trend with friends in Europe and friends here. This new version 8.0 is really wrecking folks for up to 2 weeks.
Now maybe you are Superman with Vibranium in your veins (yes mixing superheroes) so this doesn't apply to you, but for the rest of us mere mortals be careful. You have been warned in July before it comes for you.
Good luck, i hope that it is nothing but a cold,,,,,,, because you live a healthy lifestyle and you exercise/eat right.[/QUOTE]

Everyone I know that is vaccinated is getting ethered by it..wife and I caught it in March 2020 and haven't been sick since, as well as my unvaccinated friends and family. Just like the studies show. =)

[QUOTE=Bando;1665092013]See JTNBY's response.



I was in college for Desert Storm/Shield, didn't get any deferments as it wasn't a draft situation.

If you're a coward and you get drafted, you can volunteer instead to do logistics, or a cook on a ship or something. At least your contributing to the war effort no matter how futile it seems.



President Bush Served as a Pilot in wartime in the Air National Guard.

On the anniversary of D-Day Trump would not speak because it was sprinkling, but was overheard by at least 5 people calling the war dead "suckers and losers."

A true Democrat, Clinton gave these remarks, 23:53 start for the lurkers as I know you won't watch it:

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7llXClvoozw[/url]

Chilling speech.[/QUOTE]

Dubya never saw combat. He was in the air guard to avoid Vietnam. The last prez to serve in combat was Bush senior.

Bush senior was the father of the New World Order. He spoke of NWO many times when he was prez. Now NWO is here. Bush senior was a war hero, but turned on America when he became see eye ey director. Remember when I said don’t put the military on a pedestal. Bush was one of those.

Clinton is part of the pe do ring. Many on both sides are.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/toCDAZB.png[/img]

[QUOTE=Paul Kreul;1665094123]Everyone I know that is vaccinated is getting ethered by it..wife and I caught it in March 2020 and haven't been sick since, as well as my unvaccinated friends and family. Just like the studies show. =)[/QUOTE]

Well if you only had 2 or 3 of the 4 shots( based on 6 month intervals) i get it, if you have health issues to begin with i get it, if you follow zero of the original suggestions i get it, if you think masks do nothing because the particles are too small i get it, and if you expect this to stop or block all possibilities of aquiring covid i get it.

I took a flu shot 1 year and got the flu that same year, so as long as i am not hospitalized from Covid-19 then i am better off than many folks =)

[QUOTE=Corbi;1665093773]
You do realize I voted for Bill twice and was a fan of his? [/QUOTE]

Slick willy was a smooth talking Bastard for sure. My Wife's Gramp was a lifelong Southern Democrat and always had this argument that Clinton had to be corrupt because no dirt poor kid could ever be a Rhodes Scholar.

I explained several times that Rhodes Scholars are selected based on their academic/leadership ability and not on their Daddy's ability to donate a building.

Fell on deaf ears every time.

[QUOTE=Bando;1665157473]Slick willy was a smooth talking Bastard for sure. My Wife's Gramp was a lifelong Southern Democrat and always had this argument that Clinton had to be corrupt because no dirt poor kid could ever be a Rhodes Scholar.

I explained several times that Rhodes Scholars are selected based on their academic/leadership ability and not on their Daddy's ability to donate a building.

Fell on deaf ears every time.[/QUOTE]



Hillary went after Bill in college, she knew he was going to rise.

He was corrupt though, in a sexual way, Hillary also knew this but she needed his power so she was willing to put up with it and also help him cover it all up.

[QUOTE=NorwichGrad;1665098603]Dubya never saw combat. He was in the air guard to avoid Vietnam. The last prez to serve in combat was Bush senior.

Bush senior was the father of the New World Order. He spoke of NWO many times when he was prez. Now NWO is here. Bush senior was a war hero, but turned on America when he became see eye ey director. Remember when I said don’t put the military on a pedestal. Bush was one of those.

Clinton is part of the pe do ring. Many on both sides are.[/QUOTE]



Think about Bush senior time in military and his relationship with Arnold.

[QUOTE=LWW;1665172383]

He was corrupt though, in a sexual way,.[/QUOTE]


Was just a blow lob, they can be quite relaxing actually.


[spoiler][img]https://i.imgur.com/MzvY49m.png[/img][/spoiler]

[QUOTE=mtpockets;1665173363]Was just a blow lob, they can be quite relaxing actually.


[spoiler][img]https://i.imgur.com/MzvY49m.png[/img][/spoiler][/QUOTE]




He did stick his cigar in her.......

This thread is on fire!

[img]https://i.imgur.com/qh803ZV.png[/img]

some funny chit right there^^

[img]https://i.imgur.com/B3ZaQWH.png[/img]

[QUOTE=mtpockets;1665242533][img]https://i.imgur.com/B3ZaQWH.png[/img][/QUOTE]My 108 yo vaccinated grandmother just won her first battle with COVID *knocks on wood*. Unfortunately, mi 81 yo vaccinated mother who cares for her just tested positive today, but is doing good this far. Vaccines ftw.

[QUOTE=Jbizzlechizzle;1665259493]My 108 yo vaccinated grandmother just won her first battle with COVID *knocks on wood*. Unfortunately, mi 81 yo vaccinated mother who cares for her just tested positive today, but is doing good this far. Vaccines ftw.[/QUOTE]

good to hear ..

Hope mom makes a full recovery with no lasting effects :)

[QUOTE=Jbizzlechizzle;1665259493]My 108 yo vaccinated grandmother just won her first battle with COVID *knocks on wood*. Unfortunately, mi 81 yo vaccinated mother who cares for her just tested positive today, but is doing good this far. Vaccines ftw.[/QUOTE]

108 holy mackerel Jb, that is awesome, I am glad she won the battle with covid and I hope your mom has a speedy recovery as well. I think there is a lot to be said for vaccinations as well.

[url]https://twitter.com/CortesSteve/status/1553462380251811841[/url]

I've been reading that doctors are setting up protocols to treat 'vaccinated' people who have developed 'vaccine' related health issues. Also, insurance companies are reporting a spike in claims for sudden death of young people...who were 'vaccinated.'

The fact is that this is an experimental drug.

[QUOTE=KeepItMoving;1665715763]I've been reading that doctors are setting up protocols to treat 'vaccinated' people who have developed 'vaccine' related health issues. Also, insurance companies are reporting a spike in claims for sudden death of young people...who were 'vaccinated.'

The fact is that this is an experimental drug.[/QUOTE]There's a lot of stuff that can be "read" but is it coming from a reliable source and backed up by actual data?

Anyone listen to JRE #1864 w/ Alex Berenson? He ended up successfully suing Twitter cuz they banned him for speaking the truth on the vaccines. Very knowledgeable about the big picture after all the shenanigans that went down between the media, social media, the govt involvement with Twitter, FDA/pharma corruption etc. Conspiracy theories about govt. involvement with social media can be put to rest since it was done through discovery via the judge's ruling.

Was in proximity with a guy who tested positive. I'm double vaxed and boosted.

Gotta snotty nose yesterday, coughing and sneezing today, thought oh boy here we go. Tested myself tonight, negative and felt better after the test.

Now, put on your tinfoil hats and open your mind for a minute.

WTF is on those swabs? The instructions are really clear, like disturbingly clear that you put it back in the packaging and discard it. As soon as I did the required 15 seconds in each nostril I felt fine. :eek:

How is a Vax thread still running? it's like the undead ;)

[QUOTE=Bando;1667168993]Was in proximity with a guy who tested positive. I'm double vaxed and boosted.

Gotta snotty nose yesterday, coughing and sneezing today, thought oh boy here we go. Tested myself tonight, negative and felt better after the test.

Now, put on your tinfoil hats and open your mind for a minute.

WTF is on those swabs? The instructions are really clear, like disturbingly clear that you put it back in the packaging and discard it. As soon as I did the required 15 seconds in each nostril I felt fine. :eek:[/QUOTE]

There was a doc. on JRE. Maybe McCollum? Or right after him. He said nasal rinses and another technique was very effective at stopping it in it's tracks as soon as symptoms arrive, for what it's worth.

[QUOTE=OldFartTom;1667188273]How is a Vax thread still running? it's like the undead ;)[/QUOTE]

I'm assuming there will be another spike. Pretty important to review how the govt, media etc handled this for future plandemics.

New vaccines are nearly available. Although yet to be shown, I suspect they’ll reduce the risk of infection. Similar to what we saw with the current vaccines until Omicron.

[QUOTE=_zman;1667190343]There was a doc. on JRE. Maybe McCollum? Or right after him. He said nasal rinses and another technique was very effective at stopping it in it's tracks as soon as symptoms arrive, for what it's worth.
[/QUOTE]

That should be common sense IMO. You got a viral agent going nuts in your sinus cavities? Flush that fukker out with warm salt water, you won't get it all but could clear enough so that your immune system easily handles the rest.

There was another Doc early on that recommended lots of hot beverages at the first onset of symptoms. His reasoning was that it would flush the virus into your stomach where it dies rather than letting it trickle into your lungs. He was widely discredited as a quack, even on here when I brought it up. I feel like if you try it and it doesn't work, you're out like 99 cents for tea bags and stayed hydrated.

My Son says the worst thing is he's exhausted all the time, but symptoms getting better every day.

[QUOTE=Bando;1667219643]

There was another Doc early on that recommended lots of hot beverages at the first onset of symptoms. His reasoning was that it would flush the virus into your stomach where it dies rather than letting it trickle into your lungs. [/QUOTE]

Maybe that's why raw chaga works so well? I know it has a lot of immunity properties. I start making a bunch of tea as soon as I get any cold symptoms and do a flush too. Can't remember the last time I've had one.

[QUOTE=_zman;1667357643]Maybe that's why raw chaga works so well? I know it has a lot of immunity properties. I start making a bunch of tea as soon as I get any cold symptoms and do a flush too. Can't remember the last time I've had one.[/QUOTE]

Excellent point _zman

Chaga is underrated, I have been drinking and making Chaga tea since I was a kid. The natives swear by it as do I. I harvest a bunch every winter although I am looking for it all year, I only harvest in the winter, it's when it's at its densest and easiest to see without any foliage and much easier to reach with 4 feet of snow on the ground. It doesn't grow on every tree sometimes you have to travel many miles before spotting some. Makes for a great day of snowshoeing or x country skiing day or two though.


For anyone asking WTF is Chaga? Here is a pic on a tree and picked. (not my pic though)


[img]https://i.imgur.com/Cujl6uE.jpg[/img]


[img]https://i.imgur.com/scn6ytc.jpg[/img]


It's basically a mushroom that grows only on some tree species, I have only seen it on Birch and I would only pick it from birch because that's how I was taught. It has many health benefits, I won't list them because I don't wanna play doctor. (Ask Google)

Native people have been using it forever, just don't go out and pick any black knob off a tree though, do your research and although the black stuff looks nasty, it's actually where the highest concentration of good stuff is. so use it all.

Just came in to laugh at the vaxcels in this thread.

Imagine thinking it was smart to take an untested experimental shot for a virus slightly stronger than the common cold.

Imagine thinking it was a good idea to try and force people to take an ineffective shot or lose their livelihoods.

Dumb branch Covidian fools

Oh and for good measure - I was right and you were wrong, wrong, wrong




















Wrong

[QUOTE=mtpockets;1667359063]Excellent point _zman

Chaga is underrated, I have been drinking and making Chaga tea since I was a kid. The natives swear by it as do I. I harvest a bunch every winter although I am looking for it all year, I only harvest in the winter, it's when it's at its densest and easiest to see without any foliage and much easier to reach with 4 feet of snow on the ground. It doesn't grow on every tree sometimes you have to travel many miles before spotting some. Makes for a great day of snowshoeing or x country skiing day or two though.

It's basically a mushroom that grows only on some tree species, I have only seen it on Birch and I would only pick it from birch because that's how I was taught. It has many health benefits, I won't list them because I don't wanna play doctor. (Ask Google)

Native people have been using it forever, just don't go out and pick any black knob off a tree though, do your research and although the black stuff looks nasty, it's actually where the highest concentration of good stuff is. so use it all.[/QUOTE]

That's awesome you can find it in the wild. Chit's expensive, but well worth the cost, in my experience.

Just the Dad can you please explain if this is correct or not, i am curious?

"This is how I know you are a fukin moron. I know you think you are smart, but you are nothing but a fukin shill..interleukins are the cause of why we are seeing a Cytokine Storm in vaxxcells. Those interleukins or messenger proteins (IL-12's) never shut off. Interleukins are just a sub-set of cellular messenger molecules called cytokines that trigger an immune response like inflammation. every single animal study in the past when we looked at Coronavirus Vaccines, would always cause a cytokine storm when we injected the coronavirus into the animal. Total immune system shut down, organ failure, th2 immunopathology. We have seen this in the past with the RSV vaccine back in the 90's or the Dengue vaccine..ADE would set in, and it was system overload. Are you catching on now? It would look like the vaccine is working, as it did initially with Covid, but then when people came into contact with RSV the vaccine would act as a catalyst making the illness far more deadly. Same with the Dengue vaccine...it was distributed, moths later when people came into contact with the Dengue again, it made it deadly.., over 600 people died for what should have been a fever.

I swear, take a guy like yourself that took a sub-par community college class, release them on the internet, and this is the result. You are a fukin joke.

Now you want to blame all cause mortality on depression and lock-downs? LOOOOOL dude, delete your account, urine idiot."

I started eating stuff growing on trees and have had diarrhea for 4 days now.

[QUOTE=mgftp;1667749773]I started eating stuff growing on trees and have had diarrhea for 4 days now.[/QUOTE]
WHAT??? Trees?
**** man, that stuff could be "fruit"... leave it alone. It contains way too many sugars and simple carbs.
This is a bodybuilding site. You have no business eating stuff that isn't measured in scoops and made up in a shaker, did you buy it from this website? NO!
No wonder it was a shock to your insides and gave you diarrhea, stay away from trees or all your gains will fall off

[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1667748873]Just the Dad can you please explain if this is correct or not, i am curious?

"This is how I know you are a fukin moron. I know you think you are smart, but you are nothing but a fukin shill..interleukins are the cause of why we are seeing a Cytokine Storm in vaxxcells. Those interleukins or messenger proteins (IL-12's) never shut off. Interleukins are just a sub-set of cellular messenger molecules called cytokines that trigger an immune response like inflammation. every single animal study in the past when we looked at Coronavirus Vaccines, would always cause a cytokine storm when we injected the coronavirus into the animal. Total immune system shut down, organ failure, th2 immunopathology. We have seen this in the past with the RSV vaccine back in the 90's or the Dengue vaccine..ADE would set in, and it was system overload. Are you catching on now? It would look like the vaccine is working, as it did initially with Covid, but then when people came into contact with RSV the vaccine would act as a catalyst making the illness far more deadly. Same with the Dengue vaccine...it was distributed, moths later when people came into contact with the Dengue again, it made it deadly.., over 600 people died for what should have been a fever.

I swear, take a guy like yourself that took a sub-par community college class, release them on the internet, and this is the result. You are a fukin joke.

Now you want to blame all cause mortality on depression and lock-downs? LOOOOOL dude, delete your account, urine idiot."[/QUOTE]

Just the Dad can jump in, but that is an absolutely mindless post written by someone who has done nothing but sew together skeptic buzzwords and talking points into an incoherent mess of a paragraph.

The vaccines do not cause ADE. The vaccines do not cause cytokine storms. (It reads to me like the poster doesn’t even understand these are separate although interconnected concepts, but that’s another point).

Th2 skewed responses are not observed with any of the sarscov2 vaccines that came to market. He’s talking about several previous coronavirus vaccines that did not make it through animal trials, because the trials did their job. He mentions IL12, but probably doesn’t understand it’s relevance so he just casually tosses the name out there. IL12’s absence would draw concern because without it, a th2 type response comes to dominate which is potentially deleterious (cell mediated responses are curtailed). Potential issues like these are why animal testing is important. Mice and macaques provide a great immune model and we can see if a vaccine elicits these types of red flags. The poster is ironically making an argument for the safety of the vaccines, because what he’s referring to are examples where animal trials have prevented harmful vaccines from making it to humans.

In just the early clinical trials th1 immune responses were exceptionally well characterized. Now, at this point, we have the largest medical data set in history. ADE (and CS) unequivocally do not occur in vaccinated subjects at any biological or statistically significantly degree. They are acute affects that would have manifested early on. In vitro, in vivo, epidemiological, ADE and CS are simply not present. The exact opposite is true. Vaccinated subjects have significantly reduced risks of severe C19 outcomes.

I won’t even bother with his other bull****.