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[QUOTE=Cass40;1649261033]Yeah he really is. He never gets emotional either, he just talks about the topic, and he knows a lot.[/QUOTE]
I don't know how or why he does it. I just hope he keeps doing it cuz I dig what he brings.
Dude is measured and precise. Patient and thorough. I don't mean to embarrass him but I like to call it as I see it in the positive realm as often as possible. :)
Cass, plz do not ruin that thought with something that will only get u a cheap laugh at best. :D
[QUOTE=ChazWood;1649262493]I don't know how or why he does it. I just hope he keeps doing it cuz I dig what he brings.
Dude is measured and precise. Patient and thorough. I don't mean to embarrass him but I like to call it as I see it in the positive realm as often as possible. :)
Cass, plz do not ruin that thought with something that will only get u a cheap laugh at best. :D[/QUOTE]
So Chazzy, you really think our Southern border is closed, even if thousands come through who are not even detained to approximately 400,000?
Commingling immigration with the border is so stupid it is hard to describe. To mix immigration with the situation at the border is a scapegoat.
For the 5th time, Biden alone has the power to close the border and control the border. Not a matter of Congress. It is Biden’s policy that the border is not organized at all. Forget Trump. The border and other policies are why Biden’s approval is about 37%.
I apologize for not going with the Group Think of the day.
SMH
[QUOTE=ChazWood;1649258403]
7S is undoubtedly one of the most articulate, well informed and rational posters here. To suggest he's hopeless damn near condemns the rest of us numbskulls! :D[/QUOTE]
Agreed!
[QUOTE=Mark1T;1649262843]So Chazzy, you really think our Southern border is closed, even if thousands come through who are not even detained to approximately 400,000?
Commingling immigration with the border is so stupid it is hard to describe. To mix immigration with the situation at the border is a scapegoat.
For the 5th time, Biden alone has the power to close the border and control the border. Not a matter of Congress. It is Biden’s policy that the border is not organized at all. Forget Trump. The border and other policies are why Biden’s approval is about 37%.
SMH[/QUOTE]
OH CHIT WHAT'S HAPPENING???
Marky, Dude, I would discuss anything u can fathom 1 on 1, but not in this venue, brother. I'm too passionate and there's too many missing clues to complex/heated intercourse (not the sex one). Frankly, I'm just grateful we get to use this interweb thing for more than downloading pictures that appeal to your interests. Yes, porn. :D
So invite me down there when all this whakydoodle stuff subsides and we'll blather away in drunken blatherings and have a great 'ol time. :)
[QUOTE=ChazWood;1649263313]OH CHIT WHAT'S HAPPENING???
Marky, Dude, I would discuss anything u can fathom 1 on 1, but not in this venue, brother. I'm too passionate and there's too many missing clues to complex/heated intercourse (not the sex one). Frankly, I'm just grateful we get to use this interweb thing for more than downloading pictures that appeal to your interests. Yes, porn. :D
So invite me down there when all this whakydoodle stuff subsides and we'll blather away in drunken blatherings and have a great 'ol time. :)[/QUOTE]
One day 😊
[QUOTE=Mark1T;1649263363]One day 😊[/QUOTE]
Right on. :)
and I meant cues, not clues. lol. :D
[QUOTE=ChazWood;1649262493]I don't know how or why he does it. I just hope he keeps doing it cuz I dig what he brings.
Dude is measured and precise. Patient and thorough. I don't mean to embarrass him but I like to call it as I see it in the positive realm as often as possible. :)
Cass, plz do not ruin that thought with something that will only get u a cheap laugh at best. :D[/QUOTE]
Naa.. I let you do all the pink knighting and I will just agree to all of it.
[QUOTE=Cass40;1649264483]Naa.. I let you do all the pink knighting and I will just agree to all of it.[/QUOTE]
ok, but only if the outfit doesn't require heels. :p
[QUOTE=ChazWood;1649264653]ok, but only if the outfit doesn't require heels. :p[/QUOTE]
You are not allowed to mog me with your heels. *******.
[QUOTE=Cass40;1649264703]You are not allowed to mog me with your heels. *******.[/QUOTE]
I now wish I didn't google mog.
I'm ready to go back to my planet. :D
[QUOTE=ChazWood;1649265023]I now wish I didn't google mog.
I'm ready to go back to my planet. :D[/QUOTE]
I don't really know what that means either but I googled it too and it says: "a term popularized by modern day aesthetic bodybuilders meaning out sizing or dwarfing somebody in muscle size, fullness, and definition".
This is so different from 7Seconds. He would never use words he doesn't know what they mean.
[QUOTE=Cass40;1649265283]I don't really know what that means either but I googled it too and it says: "a term popularized by modern day aesthetic bodybuilders meaning out sizing or dwarfing somebody in muscle size, fullness, and definition".
This is so different from 7Seconds. He would never use words he doesn't know what they mean.[/QUOTE]
indeed. I prefer that meaning. My google search pulled up something aboot masterbating while jogging. Do ppl still jog? I mean outside of south FLA.
and luckily we already got a 7Seconds Dude, Dude. U got yur good qualities, too. :D
[QUOTE=ChazWood;1649265953]indeed. I prefer that meaning. My google search pulled up something aboot masterbating while jogging. Do ppl still jog? I mean outside of south FLA.
and luckily we already got a 7Seconds Dude, Dude. U got yur good qualities, too. :D[/QUOTE]
eew..I certainly did NOT mean that!
[QUOTE=Cass40;1649266293]eew..I certainly did NOT mean that![/QUOTE]
haha! Good to know.
and now I'm glad I didn't say u were Ekhart's evil opposite karmic twin, haha. :D
and I'm quitting while I'm behind. Speaking of which, all Dudes here over 50 should get the plumbing checked. :)
This isn't meant to be a pro or anti-vax argument, just something I wanted to share. I have kids in 8th, 10th, and 11th grade. At the beginning of the year, the school board decided that the kids must wear masks in schools as long as the 7-day-infection rate for county remained higher than 50 per 100k people. So I've obviously kept my eye on this rate this whole school year. It has steadily risen from 94 in August to currently 261. i.e. heading the wrong direction for the kids to not have to wear masks. Anyway, many of you probably don't know that I'm a bit of a math nerd (was a mathematics major in college)-so I decided to dive into the calculations a little bit-to try and figure out how this number could keep getting bigger and bigger despite the vaccination rate in the county steadily climbing as well (it is currently 70.4% in the county for kids over 12 years old).
Currently breakthrough infections account for 1/3 of all new the positive cases in MN, but they are put into the same bucket as unvax’d positives when calculating infection rate.
If you look at what that current 7-day-infection-rate of 261 actually means for the county which has 440k people, it means about 1150 people in the county got the virus last that week. You divide that by 4.4 to get the per 100k people number which is the 261. So anyway, just working backwards you can figure out just how LOW overall infections would need to get in order to get below that <50 threshold—which is just 49×4.4=215 total infections per week. Breakthrough cases are easily going to hit that infections total regardless of vaccination rate—so they basically gimmick’d the thing from the start by picking a number that there was a mathematical certainty to never hit (whether they actually realized it or not at the time).
To conclude, the kids won’t ever actually be out of masks until the school board changes that 50 cases per 100k threshold. Basically, by telling parents/kids to keep an eye on that 7-day-rate—-they are telling people to watch a clock and wait for it to strike "13 o’clock". That is pretty messed up and the kind of lack of transparency that just creates more gov’t distrust.
You don’t have to be a mathematician to do these basic calculations, but most people won’t take the time to do so—-and will just believe the threshold the gov’t quotes is actually "achievable".
Most bureaucracies don't do what you did by calculating the data, so I would suggest you show up at the next council meeting and show them your work. Totally serious.
What number do you think is more reasonable, to use for the policy, or did I miss that in your post?
[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1649284183]Most bureaucracies don't do what you did by calculating the data, so I would suggest you show up at the next council meeting and show them your work. Totally serious.
[B]What number do you think is more reasonable, to use for the policy, or did I miss that in your post?[/B][/QUOTE]
Well for starters, I wouldn't bucket the breakthrough infections into the same pool as the positive infections for unvax'd individuals. Doing so is essentially "stuffing the box" to keep that rate high. And this is despite the fact the vast majority of breakthrough infections are asymptomatic. That action alone would at least provide a somewhat "relevant" rate to what is actually occurring for community spread.
There is so much misinformation or misinterpreted information out there as it pertains to breakthrough infections. The number we keep hearing is "1.4%". But it's 1.4% of the entire vaccinated group that will get infected. Not 1.4% of current infections. So when you read a headline that says "2,000 new covid infections in MN"--most people think only 1.4% of those 2,000 were vaccinated people. When in reality 36% of those 2,000 were vaccinated/breakthrough cases. So 720 people instead of 28. Kind of a big difference, don't you think?
3.2 million people in MN have been vaccinated. 1.4% of that number is a lot people. Now factor in that the majority of the population lives in the Twin Cities metro area as opposed to the rural areas. Breakthrough cases will keep the infection rate well above these mandate thresholds indefinitely. It is a mathematical certainty.
[QUOTE=Mark1T;1649033573]Vaccines Mandates for cities, police, etc., but tens of thousands of illegals allowed to cross the border with no testing much less vaccinations or requirements.
This is an elephant in the room that is known but ignored, yet we are all at each other's throats - vaccinated vs unvaccinated :rolleyes:
That's leadership.[/QUOTE]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/rWayYrC.jpg[/img]
MT, your humor is always welcome ;)
As most of you know it is a mandatory to show a vax card for entering any establishment here in NY, however just wanted folks to know, it is not really enforced because all you have to do is show a card from your phone regardless of who's name is on the card, they don't even check. As long as it looks like you showed something you are in, bar, restaurants, movie theaters, gyms, malls etc. Its a joke.
[QUOTE=ajdahlheimer;1649283793]This isn't meant to be a pro or anti-vax argument, just something I wanted to share. I have kids in 8th, 10th, and 11th grade.
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Good post. I'm a bit of a math nerd myself :D
In regards to school - it's been a mess here with their rules. Hows it been your way?
I've already had to quarantine both my kids for "exposure" - twice this school year. The joke of it is they are required to quarantine for ten days from contact but it's usually only for 1-2 days by the time the school is notified from the health dept. That means they are still doing all their normal activates way after exposure.
Last Friday I received a call at 11;30a that I had to pick my oldest up from middle school because she had been exposed on the bus. OK, I ask for how long and they tell me she can come back Monday. So essentially she had a 1/2 of school on Friday and returned Monday...makes no sense but she was pretty happy :D
[QUOTE=bodyhard;1649288213]As most of you know it is a mandatory to show a vax card for entering any establishment here in NY, however just wanted folks to know, it is not really enforced because all you have to do is show a card from your phone regardless of who's name is on the card, they don't even check. As long as it looks like you showed something you are in, bar, restaurants, movie theaters, gyms, malls etc. Its a joke.[/QUOTE]
Merchants hate being vax police for the government.
[QUOTE=Jtbny;1649288223]Good post. I'm a bit of a math nerd myself :D
In regards to school - it's been a mess here with their rules. Hows it been your way?
I've already had to quarantine both my kids for "exposure" - twice this school year. The joke of it is they are required to quarantine for ten days from contact but it's usually only for 1-2 days by the time the school is notified from the health dept. That means they are still doing all their normal activates way after exposure.
Last Friday I received a call at 11;30a that I had to pick my oldest up from middle school because she had been exposed on the bus. OK, I ask for how long and they tell me she can come back Monday. So essentially she had a 1/2 of school on Friday and returned Monday...makes no sense but she was pretty happy :D[/QUOTE]
I'm not a parent, but I can imagine how hard it is to raise children and do your best to protect them in such an environment.
[QUOTE=Mark1T;1649288503]Merchants hate being vax police for the government.
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9 of us wen to a bar on Friday, we texted each other 1 card and we all used the same card and we all got in, the card had a full Spanish name on it and let me tell you I was the only Spanish guy in the group and I don't even look like a Manuel Escara born 1987 :D
[QUOTE=bodyhard;1649289203]9 of us wen to a bar on Friday, we texted each other 1 card and we all used the same card and we all got in, the card had a full Spanish name on it and let me tell you I was the only Spanish guy in the group and I don't even look like a Manuel Escara born 1987 :D[/QUOTE]
Hilarious :)
[QUOTE=Jtbny;1649288223]Good post. I'm a bit of a math nerd myself :D
In regards to school - it's been a mess here with their rules. Hows it been your way?
I've already had to quarantine both my kids for "exposure" - twice this school year. The joke of it is they are required to quarantine for ten days from contact but it's usually only for 1-2 days by the time the school is notified from the health dept. That means they are still doing all their normal activates way after exposure.
Last Friday I received a call at 11;30a that I had to pick my oldest up from middle school because she had been exposed on the bus. OK, I ask for how long and they tell me she can come back Monday. So essentially she had a 1/2 of school on Friday and returned Monday...makes no sense but she was pretty happy :D[/QUOTE]
We don't have exposure rules like that per se. Granted my kids are all in vax-eligible grades (all 3 are vax'd fwiw). A student only has to quarantine if they themselves test positive.
What irks me though is just the inconsistency of the mask rules. It is all a façade. They have to wear a mask inside the school and on the bus. My son plays football and he said they don't have to wear a mask packed in the locker room before and after practice, not to mention on the field, in the huddle, tackling people etc. It's like covid goes away for that time??? Also, they allow literally thousands of kids to pack in the stands outside for homecoming.
[QUOTE=Mark1T;1649288503]Merchants hate being vax police for the government.[/QUOTE]
Yep, not to mention you'll have some billionaire CEO decide that only vax'd customers can enter/shop at his stores---yet it is a minimum wage worker at the door stuck enforcing it. Makes sense?
[QUOTE=ajdahlheimer;1649292513]We don't have exposure rules like that per se. Granted my kids are all in vax-eligible grades (all 3 are vax'd fwiw). A student only has to quarantine if they themselves test positive.
What irks me though is just the inconsistency of the mask rules. It is all a façade. They have to wear a mask inside the school and on the bus. My son plays football and he said they don't have to wear a mask packed in the locker room before and after practice, not to mention on the field, in the huddle, tackling people etc. It's like covid goes away for that time??? Also, they allow literally thousands of kids to pack in the stands outside for homecoming.
Yep, not to mention you'll have some billionaire CEO decide that only vax'd customers can enter/shop at his stores---yet it is a minimum wage worker at the door stuck enforcing it. Makes sense?[/QUOTE]The whole thing is a joke.
[QUOTE=Tommy W.;1649292693]The whole thing is a joke.[/QUOTE]I think Biden is rolling out a shots program for kids. Ahhh, just line up our kids for shots. In fact, make it mandatory, so parents don't have to think for themselves and their families at all! It's so safe and cozy living in the government's womb, right?
[QUOTE=Mark1T;1649289793]Hilarious :)[/QUOTE]
The whole night we were calling ourselves Manuel :D
[QUOTE=ajdahlheimer;1649292513]
Yep, not to mention you'll have some billionaire CEO decide that only vax'd customers can enter/shop at his stores---yet it is a minimum wage worker at the door stuck enforcing it. Makes sense?[/QUOTE]
Yes and good posting, brother.
[QUOTE=bodyhard;1649295343]The whole night we were calling ourselves Manuel :D[/QUOTE]
LMAO
[QUOTE=7Seconds;1649237133]I agree that’s why we need Congress to do their job and pass into law some form of immigration reform we can all live with. [/QUOTE]
Can't get much worse than this. Any improvement from Biden is welcomed from me.
******** Settles With U.S. Government Over Improperly Reserving Jobs for Immigrants
The social-media company faces more than $14 million in penalties tied to the federal probe
[url]https://www.wsj.com/articles/********-settles-with-u-s-government-over-improperly-reserving-jobs-for-immigrants-11634662305[/url]
[QUOTE=Mark1T;1649288503]
I'm not a parent, but I can imagine how hard it is to raise children and do your best to protect them in such an environment.[/QUOTE]
I think most parents are used to this now. We went from complete shutdown to hybrid school to our current situation. I do think most of the schools are trying to do the right thing and error on the side of extreme caution. It's just that some of the things they do are counter to common sense, IMO.
Amazingly my kids and all the ones in our universe have been fantastic these two years. My kids have not once complained about masks or events being cancelled (birthday parties etc.) The kids have handled this better than many adults I know :D
[QUOTE=Jtbny;1649327913]I think most parents are used to this now. We went from complete shutdown to hybrid school to our current situation. I do think most of the schools are trying to do the right thing and error on the side of extreme caution. It's just that some of the things they do are counter to common sense, IMO.
Amazingly my kids and all the ones in our universe have been fantastic these two years. My kids have not once complained about masks or events being cancelled (birthday parties etc.) The kids have handled this better than many adults I know :D[/QUOTE]
Good to hear something positive. Sounds like your family is handling it just fine :)
[url]https://www.peachtreehoops.com/2021/10/3/22706769/former-atlanta-hawks-guard-brandon-goodwin-claims-covid-19-vaccine-ended-his-season[/url]
[b]Former Atlanta Hawks guard Brandon Goodwin claims COVID-19 vaccine ended his season[/b]
[quote]Recently, on a Twitch stream, Goodwin revealed his side of the story, and it all starts with him receiving the COVID-19 vaccine.
“I got sick and I never quite recovered from it,” Goodwin said on the stream, as posted on YouTube by Cosign Zee. “I would always have back pain, I was just super tired in the games.”
Goodwin used Atlanta’s back-to-back against the Philadelphia 76ers on April 28 and April 30 as an example.
“Bro, I was so tired,” he said. “I felt like I couldn’t run up and down the court. My back was hurting.”
The Hawks then had a three-game homestand from May 1-5.
“My back really started hurting bad,” Goodwin recalled. “Then, I’m like, ‘OK. I need to go to the doctor. That’s when I found out I had blood clots. That all within the span of a month.”
Goodwin then left nothing up to the imagination when he revealed what he believed caused the health issues.
“I was fine until then,” Goodwin said. “I was fine up until I took the vaccine, I was fine.”
Blood clots have been reported as rare side effects of Johnson & Johnson’s Janssen COVID-19 vaccine, according to the Center for Disease Control and Prevention. Women under the age of 50 are advised to remain cautious about the rare but increased risks of developing a blood clot from the J&J vaccine, the CDC says, a risk that “has not been seen” in other vaccine options.
“People trying to tell you, ‘No. It’s not the vaccine.’ How do you know?” Goodwin asked. “You don’t know.”[/quote]
[QUOTE=bodyhard;1649295343]The whole night we were calling ourselves Manuel :D[/QUOTE]
Haha! Gold. :)
[QUOTE=Jtbny;1649327913]I think most parents are used to this now. We went from complete shutdown to hybrid school to our current situation. I do think most of the schools are trying to do the right thing and error on the side of extreme caution. It's just that some of the things they do are counter to common sense, IMO.
Amazingly my kids and all the ones in our universe have been fantastic these two years. My kids have not once complained about masks or events being cancelled (birthday parties etc.) The kids have handled this better than many adults I know :D[/QUOTE]
What you throw at the kids is the “normal” to them. They’re taking it well but their “normal” is so fuking skewed it breaks my heart. But yea they arent handling it too bad.
[QUOTE=TryingBB;1649334363]What you throw at the kids is the “normal” to them. They’re taking it well but their “normal” is so fuking skewed it breaks my heart. But yea they arent handling it too bad.[/QUOTE]
If it breaks your heart while they are doing just fine you're projecting. I've been teaching my kids since they could understand that life isn't fair and if you can't do the best thing do the next best thing. At least in my situation both of my kids have adapted to our current situation and have kept it moving.
[QUOTE=Jtbny;1649327913]It's just that some of the things they do are counter to common sense, IMO.[/QUOTE]
This is my biggest issue as well. Are you doing it for safety or just for show?
[QUOTE=Jtbny;1649327913]The kids have handled this better than many adults I know :D[/QUOTE]
Truth. Kids are crazy resilient.
[QUOTE=ajdahlheimer;1649347973]Kids are crazy resilient.[/QUOTE]
They're also clever. If yours are good at math, maybe they can point out to the school board they're being obtuse.
[QUOTE=JustTheDad;1649350923]They're also clever. If yours are good at math, maybe they can point out to the school board they're being obtuse.[/QUOTE]
They are all very good at math. Son will be taking AP Calc next year for college credit. Same with my daughter the following year.
[QUOTE=Jtbny;1649347233]If it breaks your heart while they are doing just fine you're projecting. I've been teaching my kids since they could understand that life isn't fair and if you can't do the best thing do the next best thing. At least in my situation both of my kids have adapted to our current situation and have kept it moving.[/QUOTE]
Don’t want to turn this into a debate - that was my opinion and no one has to agree with it.
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Good for ya! I didn’t mean it like that. I meant about kids in general but yea maybe it’s projection. I’ll have to think about it. Regardless what I said holds true - also, new “normal” precisely means adapting imo
Teaching “life isn’t fair” at a very early stage may instill hatred and selfishness into a child’s mind (which is definitely needed in life @ at the right time), but it’s your kids. You do you.
Some colleagues recently published this pre-print (meaning it has yet to complete peer-review), but the results are timely to current discussions:
[url]https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.10.13.21264957v1[/url]
[B]Findings[/B]
We estimate that two standard doses of either mRNA-1273 or BNT162b2, with dosage times separated by the company-mandated intervals, results in individuals loosing more than 99% humoral immunity relative to peak immunity by eight months following the second dose. We predict that within an eight month period following dose two (corresponding to the CDC time-frame for administration of a third dose), there exists a period of time longer than one month where an individual has less then 99% humoral immunity relative to peak immunity, regardless of which vaccine was administered. We further find that age has a strong influence in maintaining humoral immunity; by eight months following dose two we predict that individuals aged 18-55 have a four-fold humoral advantage compared to aged 56-70 and 70+ individuals. We find that sex has little effect on the vaccine uptake and long-term IgG counts. Finally, we find that humoral immunity generated from two low doses of mRNA-1273 decays substantially slower relative to peak immunity gained than compared to two standard doses of either mRNA-1273 or BNT162b2.
[B]Interpretation[/B]
For the two dose mRNA vaccines, our predictions highlight the importance of the recommended third booster dose in order to maintain elevated levels of antibodies. We further show that age plays a critical role in determining the antibody levels. Hence, a third booster dose may confer an immuno-protective advantage in older individuals.
[B]Funding[/B]
This research is supported by NSERC Discovery Grant (RGPIN-2018-04546), NSERC COVID-19 Alliance Grant ALLRP 554923-20, CIHR-Fields COVID Immunity Task Force, NRC Pandemic Response Challenge Program Grant No. PR016-1.
[QUOTE=ajdahlheimer;1649283793]This isn't meant to be a pro or anti-vax argument, just something I wanted to share. I have kids in 8th, 10th, and 11th grade. At the beginning of the year, the school board decided that the kids must wear masks in schools as long as the 7-day-infection rate for county remained higher than 50 per 100k people. So I've obviously kept my eye on this rate this whole school year. It has steadily risen from 94 in August to currently 261. i.e. heading the wrong direction for the kids to not have to wear masks. Anyway, many of you probably don't know that I'm a bit of a math nerd (was a mathematics major in college)-so I decided to dive into the calculations a little bit-to try and figure out how this number could keep getting bigger and bigger despite the vaccination rate in the county steadily climbing as well (it is currently 70.4% in the county for kids over 12 years old).
Currently breakthrough infections account for 1/3 of all new the positive cases in MN, but they are put into the same bucket as unvax’d positives when calculating infection rate.
If you look at what that current 7-day-infection-rate of 261 actually means for the county which has 440k people, it means about 1150 people in the county got the virus last that week. You divide that by 4.4 to get the per 100k people number which is the 261. So anyway, just working backwards you can figure out just how LOW overall infections would need to get in order to get below that <50 threshold—which is just 49×4.4=215 total infections per week. Breakthrough cases are easily going to hit that infections total regardless of vaccination rate—so they basically gimmick’d the thing from the start by picking a number that there was a mathematical certainty to never hit (whether they actually realized it or not at the time).
To conclude, the kids won’t ever actually be out of masks until the school board changes that 50 cases per 100k threshold. Basically, by telling parents/kids to keep an eye on that 7-day-rate—-they are telling people to watch a clock and wait for it to strike "13 o’clock". That is pretty messed up and the kind of lack of transparency that just creates more gov’t distrust.
You don’t have to be a mathematician to do these basic calculations, but most people won’t take the time to do so—-and will just believe the threshold the gov’t quotes is actually "achievable".[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ajdahlheimer;1649284873]Well for starters, I wouldn't bucket the breakthrough infections into the same pool as the positive infections for unvax'd individuals. Doing so is essentially "stuffing the box" to keep that rate high. And this is despite the fact the vast majority of breakthrough infections are asymptomatic. That action alone would at least provide a somewhat "relevant" rate to what is actually occurring for community spread.
There is so much misinformation or misinterpreted information out there as it pertains to breakthrough infections. The number we keep hearing is "1.4%". But it's 1.4% of the entire vaccinated group that will get infected. Not 1.4% of current infections. So when you read a headline that says "2,000 new covid infections in MN"--most people think only 1.4% of those 2,000 were vaccinated people. When in reality 36% of those 2,000 were vaccinated/breakthrough cases. So 720 people instead of 28. Kind of a big difference, don't you think?
3.2 million people in MN have been vaccinated. 1.4% of that number is a lot people. Now factor in that the majority of the population lives in the Twin Cities metro area as opposed to the rural areas. Breakthrough cases will keep the infection rate well above these mandate thresholds indefinitely. It is a mathematical certainty.[/QUOTE]
Awesome stuff. There has been and continues to be a lot of misinformation from what should be credible sources. While not lying per se, it intentionally misrepresents information. We are under a 2% positivity rate and our fat slob governor just extended emergency orders and refuses to even identify a marker when restrictions will be lifted. It almost seems like their are motivators other than covid…
[QUOTE=TryingBB;1649358413]Don’t want to turn this into a debate - that was my opinion and no one has to agree with it.
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Good for ya! I didn’t mean it like that. I meant about kids in general but yea maybe it’s projection. I’ll have to think about it. Regardless what I said holds true - also, new “normal” precisely means adapting imo
Teaching “life isn’t fair” at a very early stage may instill hatred and selfishness into a child’s mind (which is definitely needed in life @ at the right time), but it’s your kids. You do you.[/QUOTE]
Or different take - teaching them life isn't fair will teach them they aren't entitled, to adapt to their situation and to not complain or compare their situations to others. Not to mention its not like I don't work on other life lessons in conjunction like empathy, compassion for others, service to those not as fortunate etc. But you do you too.
[img]https://i.imgur.com/TK6T71e.jpg[/img]
A woman brought a very limp duck into a veterinary surgeon. As she laid her pet on the table, the vet pulled out his stethoscope and listened to the bird's chest. After a moment or two, the vet shook his head and sadly said, "I'm sorry, your duck has passed away."
The distressed woman wailed, "Are you sure?" "Yes, I am sure. Your duck is dead," replied the vet.
"How can you be so sure?" she protested. "I mean you haven't done any testing on him or anything. He might just be in a coma or something."
The vet rolled his eyes, turned around and left the room. He returned a few minutes later with a black Labrador.
As the duck's owner looked on in amazement, the dog stood on his hind legs, put his front paws on the examination table and sniffed the duck from top to bottom. He then looked up at the vet with sad eyes and shook his head. The vet patted the dog on the head and took it out of the room. A few minutes later he returned with a cat. The cat jumped on the table and also delicately sniffed the bird from head to foot. The cat sat back on its haunches, shook its head, meowed softly and strolled out of the room.
The vet looked at the woman and said, "I'm sorry, but as I said, this is most definitely, 100% certifiably, a dead duck."
The vet turned to his computer terminal, hit a few keys and produced a bill, which he handed to the woman.
The duck's owner, still in shock, took the bill. "$1500!" she cried, "$1500 just to tell me my duck is dead!"
The vet shrugged, "I'm sorry. If you had just taken my word for it, the bill would have been $100, but with the Lab Report and the Cat Scan, it's now $1500."
[QUOTE=Plateauplower;1649388343]A woman brought a very limp duck into a veterinary surgeon. As she laid her pet on the table, the vet pulled out his stethoscope and listened to the bird's chest. After a moment or two, the vet shook his head and sadly said, "I'm sorry, your duck has passed away."
The distressed woman wailed, "Are you sure?" "Yes, I am sure. Your duck is dead," replied the vet.
"How can you be so sure?" she protested. "I mean you haven't done any testing on him or anything. He might just be in a coma or something."
The vet rolled his eyes, turned around and left the room. He returned a few minutes later with a black Labrador.
As the duck's owner looked on in amazement, the dog stood on his hind legs, put his front paws on the examination table and sniffed the duck from top to bottom. He then looked up at the vet with sad eyes and shook his head. The vet patted the dog on the head and took it out of the room. A few minutes later he returned with a cat. The cat jumped on the table and also delicately sniffed the bird from head to foot. The cat sat back on its haunches, shook its head, meowed softly and strolled out of the room.
The vet looked at the woman and said, "I'm sorry, but as I said, this is most definitely, 100% certifiably, a dead duck."
The vet turned to his computer terminal, hit a few keys and produced a bill, which he handed to the woman.
The duck's owner, still in shock, took the bill. "$1500!" she cried, "$1500 just to tell me my duck is dead!"
The vet shrugged, "I'm sorry. If you had just taken my word for it, the bill would have been $100, but with the Lab Report and the Cat Scan, it's now $1500."[/QUOTE]
Thanks Bro, I needed that. :)
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At least three of my ex coworkers are not being called back to work cos they're not vaxxed. One is still waiting for the approval, I guess she filed some kind of paperwork for exemption? Not sure what they're doing but it seems to take time and the next assignment is supposed to start Wednesday so pretty much no chance.
In my other job, we are technically supposed to be vaxxed but I know a lot of people who are not and HR is not really enforcing us to send the proof of vax status.
Hello all.
I am imploring everyone I can find to take their shots. I have a YouTube video to post, but I don't have 50 posts yet.