Will you get vaccinated?

[QUOTE=Bando;1635360533]I had mine 57 hours ago, here's the timeline:

hour zero: shot
hour 5: did 15 sets of light shoulders, everything felt fine
hour 12: woke up shivering but hot and sweaty, could hardly sleep even under 5 blankets
This continued until late last night, so lasted around 35 hours.
Woke up this morning and took a hot bath and changed out of the pajamas I sweated in for 45 hours.
Laid back down on the couch, headache, worn and weak, bright sun coming through the windows, started to watch a movie.
1/2 hour later said F*uk this, put on jeans and went out and did some light painting and cleaning up, weak and creaky.
I'm 95% now, think the sun and work did more for me than any amount of laying on the couch with OJ and Ibuprofin would have.

I honestly hope everyone has a better 2nd shot experience than me, it was the most sick I've ever felt in probably 10 years.[/QUOTE]

I'm glad you made it out okay.

[QUOTE=Bando;1635364283]If you got a Bible laying around, the final chapter is the book of Revelations. it's a short read. I'll just leave it at that.[/QUOTE]

Most interpret revelations with what’s happening with this vaccine, using the mark of the beast to continue Along with society, however it’s also the Social security number.

What were you told about protocols post Vaccine?

How long before it becomes effective? Continue with Mask use etc...



I have read a bit on the topic, but I would like to know what folks were told at the immunization site.

[QUOTE=mtpockets;1635393303]What were you told about protocols post Vaccine?

How long before it becomes effective? Continue with Mask use etc...



I have read a bit on the topic, but I would like to know what folks were told at the immunization site.[/QUOTE]

2 weeks

[QUOTE=mtpockets;1635393303]What were you told about protocols post Vaccine?

How long before it becomes effective? Continue with Mask use etc...



I have read a bit on the topic, but I would like to know what folks were told at the immunization site.[/QUOTE]2 weeks to 60 days is the time frame that I have read where the vaccine becomes most effective.

Even the first dose is supposed to be pretty effective.

I think that this is going to be a yearly thing just like the regular flu vaccine. I don't get the regular flu shot, but because this targets older folks, I will probably do this annually if it proves successful over the coming year.

I will continue to wear a mask indoors until I feel that everyone has had a chance to get the vaccine. Mid-summer maybe.

[QUOTE=mtpockets;1635393303]What were you told about protocols post Vaccine?

How long before it becomes effective? Continue with Mask use etc...



I have read a bit on the topic, but I would like to know what folks were told at the immunization site.[/QUOTE]


my wife and I got Astra Zeneca first dose tow weeks ago, and were told we were getting the second dose in 4 months (thanks Justin Trudeau you ashpole)
We were told that it takes two weeks on average to start working and the protection varies with just one dose
She felt sick for about 12 hours but she's a weenie anyways, I had no reaction at all.

If you get your information from Wolf Blitzer or Hannity you are an idiot

with each injection, reaction to injection, or death, the data changes. The changes in data drive the guidance.

Daughter works in patient safety and simulation training at a hospital
Future daughter in law works in labour and delivery and has delivered five babies to covid positive mothers (she can't be vaccinated for medical reasons)

do what you are told to do and you'll have no problem (as she has proven)

be a anti masking nonconformist selfish POS, and you'll make things worse ..... new variants will emerge

It's not "like" the flu and the vaccinations are not "like" each other. No one really knows for sure about immunity

[QUOTE=startingat56;1635415313]

If you get your information from Wolf Blitzer or Hannity you are an idiot

do what you are told to do and you'll have no problem (as she has proven)

be a anti masking nonconformist selfish POS, and you'll make things worse ..... new variants will emerge

It's not "like" the flu and the vaccinations are not "like" each other. No one really knows for sure about immunity[/QUOTE]


Too fuking funny!!!!!!

[QUOTE=deadwoodgregg;1635406943]

I think that this is going to be a yearly thing just like the regular flu vaccine.[/QUOTE]

I dunno, I had the swine flu vaccine years back then it just went away?

[QUOTE=Bando;1635431523]I dunno, I had the swine flu vaccine years back then it just went away?[/QUOTE]
Holy chit dude, tell me that doesn't mean you're now allergic to bacon??? Or immune from bacon...

Either sounds horrible! I think. :D

[QUOTE=-=FLEX=-;1635430843]Do you realize mRNA vaccines are experimental? They have neve been vetted. Never. If you want to be part of the biggest human experiment ever go right ahead.[/QUOTE]

What's ironic is where he says this:

[QUOTE=startingat56;1635415313]be a anti masking nonconformist selfish POS, and you'll make things worse ..... [b]new variants will emerge[/b][/quote]

Apparently he is not aware of the very real danger that mass vaccinating in the midst of a pandemic could be doing in this regard, especially with these vaccines that require multiple doses. The window of time in between the first and second doses provides the virus with a prime opportunity for immunity escape, putting pressure on it to mutate.

Article from the Lancet:
[url]https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)00468-2/fulltext?rss=yes[/url]

Geert Vanden Bossche PhD, is an internationally recognised vaccine developer having worked as the head of the Vaccine Development Office at the German Centre for Infection Research. Highlighting the principle of using a prophylactic vaccine in the midst of a pandemic. Likely to create more more viral variants in the process.
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While it's too early to say for sure one way or the other, it's certainly possible that all the low risk, healthy people who are rushing to get vaccinated right now could be throwing kindling on to the fire and bringing about something potentially worse. I honestly respect people who make an [i]informed[/i] decision either way to get vaccinated or not, but the virtue signaling and unfounded rush to certainty about safety and risk with these vaccines is baffling, not just on a personal level, but the evolutionary impact on the global scale. We just don't know, and you are rolling the dice either way you go.

[QUOTE=-=FLEX=-;1635433163]There are lots of doctors around the world speaking out against this for the exact reasons you posted but they are being silenced. Because "misinformation".

Everyone just wants to get back to normal. And I get that. I do too.

But I'm not letting anyone inject me with an experimental "vaccine" to protect me from a disease that I have a 99%+ likelihood of surviving.[/QUOTE]
Then you must be hunted down and terminated.

It's for the greater good. :D

Are you now talking to yourself?

And if so is it a two-way conversation? :D

Damn... you can't even joke aboot that stuff anymore. It's like making fun of retards.

[QUOTE=ChazWood;1635433433]Then you must be hunted down and terminated.

It's for the greater good. :D[/QUOTE]


You can't terminate FLEX. Pretty soon it won't be possible to terminate me as eithier:D

[QUOTE=LWW;1635434443]You can't terminate FLEX. Pretty soon it won't be possible to terminate me as eithier:D[/QUOTE]
For the greater good we would curb stomp the dude. Nothing personal. It's for the greater good.

as for you, nah, you're not going anywhere on account of what you got going on is something every village needs. :p

[QUOTE=-=FLEX=-;1635436193]Clearly you are taking full advantage of Trudeau's decision to legalize marijuana in Canada. Good for you.

Maybe lift more, though.[/QUOTE]
haha! w3rd.

and i'm lifting, dude. everything is on track. :)

[QUOTE=Bando;1635360533]I had mine 57 hours ago, here's the timeline:

hour zero: shot
[b][i]hour 5: did 15 sets of light shoulders, everything felt fine[/b][/i]
hour 12: woke up shivering but hot and sweaty, could hardly sleep even under 5 blankets
This continued until late last night, so lasted around 35 hours.
Woke up this morning and took a hot bath and changed out of the pajamas I sweated in for 45 hours.
Laid back down on the couch, headache, worn and weak, bright sun coming through the windows, started to watch a movie.
1/2 hour later said F*uk this, put on jeans and went out and did some light painting and cleaning up, weak and creaky.
I'm 95% now, think the sun and work did more for me than any amount of laying on the couch with OJ and Ibuprofin would have.

I honestly hope everyone has a better 2nd shot experience than me, it was the most sick I've ever felt in probably 10 years.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ArchAngel'73;1635385963]I'm glad you made it out okay.[/QUOTE]

Thanks Bro.

So I have this kooky theory and with so many keyboard infectious disease experts here I thought I would bring it up.

My reaction was unlike anyone else's I have read or heard about. If you see my OP above, I doubt anyone else I heard from went to the gym and did a pretty solid shoulder sesh with a shoulder full of vaccine.

Is it possible that I "unleashed the full force of the vaccine" in a short time when it was designed to just slowly do its thing?

Follow up protocol was "exercise the arm" but I think that was written with the idea of sweeping the kitchen more than overhead presses.

I'm back to 100% just in time for work BTW :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=Bando;1635437863]Thanks Bro.

So I have this kooky theory and with so many keyboard infectious disease experts here I thought I would bring it up.

My reaction was unlike anyone else's I have read or heard about. If you see my OP above, I doubt anyone else I heard from went to the gym and did a pretty solid shoulder sesh with a shoulder full of vaccine.

Is it possible that I "unleashed the full force of the vaccine" in a short time when it was designed to just slowly do its thing?
[/QUOTE]


Yes, even though you did a sissy light shoulder workout, 15 sets has some volume. Basically you could have done a heavy set of deads and gotten those intense chills.

It totally makes sense, any type of DOMS and break of CNS will amplify the side effects, but no worries, it should make you stronger.

[QUOTE=ChazWood;1635436353]

and i'm lifting, dude. everything is on track. :)[/QUOTE]

Not enough, I'm getting into workout #2 of the day:)

[QUOTE=LWW;1635438393]Yes, even though you did a sissy light shoulder workout, 15 sets has some volume. Basically you could have done a heavy set of deads and gotten those intense chills.

It totally makes sense, any type of DOMS and break of CNS will amplify the side effects, but no worries, it should make you stronger.[/QUOTE]

Do you know what DOMS stands for?

OK, let me rephrase, Keyboard Infectious Disease Experts With a Brain.

[QUOTE=Bando;1635437863]
Is it possible that I "unleashed the full force of the vaccine" in a short time when it was designed to just slowly do its thing? [/QUOTE]

No, but it is possible that you compromised your body’s ability to “defend” against the vaccine (e.g. triggered immune response) by re-allocating its resources elsewhere (e.g. to muscle repair), though with a light workout probably not in any significant way.

Unfortunately, mild symptoms are a relatively common side effect of the vaccines. Still better than the real thing though (cue the anti-vax brigade in 3...2...1...).

[QUOTE=Bando;1635442953]Do you know what DOMS stands for?

OK, let me rephrase, Keyboard Infectious Disease Experts With a Brain.[/QUOTE]

Delayed onset muscle soreness, when get a vax or if you get sick shortly after lifting your immune system fights harder, the affects after lifting are much more intense.

How does that not make sense to you? I’ve said it before you have more useless muscle than a brain, dipchit!

[QUOTE=Bando;1635442953]Do you know what DOMS stands for?

OK, let me rephrase, Keyboard Infectious Disease Experts With a Brain.[/QUOTE]

Wat you think you had Acute muscle soreness 7 hours later after sleeping???????

Eithier way smartazz, lifting did intensify it, even if it was a sissy weight with a bunch a volume!

[QUOTE=Corbets;1635443633]No, but it is possible that you compromised your body’s ability to “defend” against the vaccine (e.g. triggered immune response) by re-allocating its resources elsewhere (e.g. to muscle repair), though with a light workout probably not in any significant way.[/QUOTE]

Ahh a poster with a brain! Thank goodness.

The workout was an hour, 15 sets, 80% of what I would usually lift. In retrospect I wouldn't call it a light workout, I was sweating and got a pump, just didn't push it to the level I normally would.

[QUOTE=LWW;1635446483]Delayed onset muscle soreness, when get a vax or if you get sick shortly after lifting your immune system fights harder, the affects after lifting are much more intense.

How does that not make sense to you? I’ve said it before you have more useless muscle than a brain, dipchit![/QUOTE]

DOMS is when you squat heavy on Monday, then Tuesday you're walking down the road collecting your cans fine, then when you go to bring your bags of cans to WalMart on Wednesday, your legs are fukked up.

[QUOTE=-=FLEX=-;1635433463]Last year my eye doctor told me she saw some weirdness in my retina so she sent me to a specialist. He wanted to perform laser surgery on my eye to prevent me from any potential issues in the future. I asked him what the risks were. He told me. I asked him what the risks were of doing nothing . He told me.

I chose to do nothing. Seems pretty simple if you have a small likelihood of a bad event from doing nothing and an equally small likelihood of a bad event from doing something that the correct course of action is to do nothing.

That is my rationale anyway.

And that is how I feel about getting "vaccinated"[/QUOTE]

Ditto

I’m gonna wait it out for a long as I can without getting the vaccine. No long term data.

Only one thought that makes me more comfortable as each day passes is that the experimental data gets larger each day. Millions have gotten it and I’m not aware of any major side effects being reported.

[QUOTE=Bando;1635437863]So I have this kooky theory and with so many keyboard infectious disease experts here I thought I would bring it up...[/QUOTE]

While the Moderna vaccine has been more widely reported to have these effects (less surprisingly since it has three times the dose compared to Pfizer), I'd definitely go with the theory that since mRNA uses protein synthesis for its replication pathway, you basically had a vaccine virtual cytokine storm from being jacked! :D


[QUOTE=Corbets;1635443633]Unfortunately, mild symptoms are a relatively common side effect of the vaccines. [b]Still better than the real thing though[/b] (cue the anti-vax brigade in 3...2...1...).[/QUOTE]

Unless you are one of the millions of people who are asymptomatic. ;) Also, the bolded part of your quote can only be evaluated with respect to the short term. If the long term effects of the vaccine turn out to raise the likelihood of cancer or auto-immune diseases, not so much in my book.

[QUOTE=Corbets;1635443633]No, but it is possible that you compromised your body’s ability to “defend” against the vaccine (e.g. triggered immune response) by re-allocating its resources elsewhere (e.g. to muscle repair)[/QUOTE]

Yea, that's exactly how the body works..That must be why athletes are so sickly. LOL

I ended up with having no choice in the matter (yes my chosen employer is quite good at persuading)

I left it as long as possible, and in doing so contracted COVID after I could have been vaccinated. Now suffering from the after effects, while feeling what would have happened if I had just taken the damn ting at first offering.

My personal opinion (FWIW) is that there are way more things likely to shorten my life than the vaccine. I've been jagged for everything else under the sun, so could I blame this one over the others.

End of the day, the only way the world might get back to being open is by getting and in a few years it will be in the same category as polio.

That's just my old opinion :-)

[QUOTE=Eternalstuden79;1635460243]I ended up with having no choice in the matter (yes my chosen employer is quite good at persuading)

I left it as long as possible, and in doing so contracted COVID after I could have been vaccinated. Now suffering from the after effects, while feeling what would have happened if I had just taken the damn ting at first offering.

My personal opinion (FWIW) is that there are way more things likely to shorten my life than the vaccine. I've been jagged for everything else under the sun, so could I blame this one over the others.

End of the day, the only way the world might get back to being open is by getting and in a few years it will be in the same category as polio.

That's just my old opinion :-)[/QUOTE]

Yeah I kinda didn't want to wait for the covid either and figured what the heck. People saying the vaccine being experipental, well covid is experipental also. I don't want to be out of the gym for weeks and maybe have long lasting symptoms.

I'm not even sure if I'll get the vaccine again and if it's a yearly thing, I might still get covid and propably get it some point in my life. People waiting to get vaccine, well I'd rather wait for covid and prolong it as long as possible.

[QUOTE=Bando;1635437863]Thanks Bro.

So I have this kooky theory and with so many keyboard infectious disease experts here I thought I would bring it up.

My reaction was unlike anyone else's I have read or heard about. If you see my OP above, I doubt anyone else I heard from went to the gym and did a pretty solid shoulder sesh with a shoulder full of vaccine.

Is it possible that I "unleashed the full force of the vaccine" in a short time when it was designed to just slowly do its thing?

Follow up protocol was "exercise the arm" but I think that was written with the idea of sweeping the kitchen more than overhead presses.

I'm back to 100% just in time for work BTW :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

Yes you unleashed it because the same thing happend to me with the first shot Monday. I was fine laughing at " side effects" then spent the next 4 days doing most of the work for my gf's internal move in her building. That thing hit hard and as of last night I suddenly had a light fever and body aches. I have been super careful regarding covid, so the only new variable was the introduction of Pfizer to my life.

[QUOTE=Bando;1635447653]

DOMS is when you squat heavy on Monday, then Tuesday you're walking down the road collecting your cans fine, then when you go to bring your bags of cans to WalMart on Wednesday, your legs are fukked up.[/QUOTE]

OMG, it’s not always two fuking days written in stone dumbazz.

DOMS can happen within the first 24 hours after training.

The only time it don’t happen is during training, otherwise that would be acute muscle soreness.