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Has this long winded thread changed one persons mind? [/QUOTE]
Dunno, I do know that people in this thread have changed their mind and gotten the vax.
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Has this long winded thread changed one persons mind? [/QUOTE]
Dunno, I do know that people in this thread have changed their mind and gotten the vax.
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[QUOTE=Mark1T;1651863053][i]"Biden says the US must 'vaccinate the rest of the world' to beat COVID-19 pandemic"[/i]
[url]https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-us-vaccinate-world-beat-covid-19-pandemic[/url]
The rest of the world, but allows an open border, letting hundreds of thousands of unvaccinated illegals cross the border and not even offering to vaccinate them :rolleyes:
We should be able to call out anyone who thinks we are this naive to take their word.
Not picking on Biden. Just calling out the obvious.[/QUOTE]
Tells you everything you need to know about covid...
[QUOTE=Fishman15;1651871323]Tells you everything you need to know about covid...[/QUOTE]There are still people that believe it wasn't all planned out
[QUOTE=Corbi;1651861313]I got the jab back in april and a booster last week, both are the J&J. Yes I have read the long winded ramblings from some here trying to supposedly explain the various differences and honestly I don't fukkin care. I trust J&J as a company but the others I don't, no real reason other than it's just a gut reaction.
Has this long winded thread changed one persons mind? I am 100% pro vaccination but 112% against mandatory / forced vaccinations. We are adults, let us make our own decisions as we have done for thousands of years. Ultimately nature will decide which of us was correct.[/QUOTE]
I'm still holding out. At my age I should have been jabbed a long time ago. Like you, I'm not anti-vax at all but I'm against the mandates. I've completely lost confidence in the medical community because of how this has all played out. The only science being used in this is political science...
[QUOTE=Tommy W.;1651871553]There are still people that believe it wasn't all planned out[/QUOTE]
Who planned this all out and what is the grand plan? I genuinely want to know because I didn't get the memo.
[QUOTE=bustasinclair;1651873643]Who planned this all out and what is the grand plan? I genuinely want to know because I didn't get the memo.[/QUOTE] If you didn't get the memo then fire your secretary.
[QUOTE=Cass40;1651853913]No it doesn't. I actually lived in a country like that for 24 years so I know. Did you?[/QUOTE]
That was then, just like that was then here. Once Finland gets over run with free loaders that contribute nothing than you'd say different. Eventually Finland would run out of that money.
Everything can be utopia until it isn't any longer. Plus Finland could get conquard easy.
[QUOTE=bustasinclair;1651873643]Who planned this all out and what is the grand plan? I genuinely want to know because I didn't get the memo.[/QUOTE]
Glad you asked. The Bilderberg Group and their public arm The World Economic Forum is the answer to your question.
How it works is there is a hierarchical power structure of the elite who pass top down orders from the bloodline families to the covert councils and round table groups (i.e. Bilderberg) to the overt councils and round table groups (WEF, Council on Foreign Relations) to eventually global government structures like the UN, WHO then to national medical bureaus (in the US that is the CDC, FDA, NIH & HHS), then those orders are passed down to the state health boards and then onto the county and local health boards. But know that these are just the Globalist Field Marshals on the battlefield for mankind. Above them are the elite banking, royal families & industrial titans (Rockefeller’s, Vanderbilt’s, DuPont’s). But if you really want to get to the bottom of this rabbit hole it’s probably in the old adage that told us: “All Roads Lead to Rome”.
So control is one goal. Depopulation is another. The elite class has gotten the idea that there are too many people on earth. They don't like to share. So they want to cut world population, by a lot. They figure that around half a billion total would give them more of a Garden of Eden experience.
Wars are good for this, but the new thinking is that if we can get everyone to take a vaccine that shortens life, it'll be more efficient, and it doesn't tear the place up so much. Of course the vaccine can't kill too many obviously, or people will notice. But a few athletes collapsing on the fields, a few children having heart attacks and strokes, shouldn't cause too much alarm. They’re playing the long game.
It’s also possible it could simply be a deadly novel virus.
[QUOTE=7Seconds;1651877013]Glad you asked. The Bilderberg Group and their public arm The World Economic Forum is the answer to your question.
How it works is there is a hierarchical power structure of the elite who pass top down orders from the bloodline families to the covert councils and round table groups (i.e. Bilderberg) to the overt councils and round table groups (WEF, Council on Foreign Relations) to eventually global government structures like the UN, WHO then to national medical bureaus (in the US that is the CDC, FDA, NIH & HHS), then those orders are passed down to the state health boards and then onto the county and local health boards. But know that these are just the Globalist Field Marshals on the battlefield for mankind. Above them are the elite banking, royal families & industrial titans (Rockefeller’s, Vanderbilt’s, DuPont’s). But if you really want to get to the bottom of this rabbit hole it’s probably in the old adage that told us: “All Roads Lead to Rome”.
So control is one goal. Depopulation is another. The elite class has gotten the idea that there are too many people on earth. They don't like to share. So they want to cut world population, by a lot. They figure that around half a billion total would give them more of a Garden of Eden experience.
Wars are good for this, but the new thinking is that if we can get everyone to take a vaccine that shortens life, it'll be more efficient, and it doesn't tear the place up so much. Of course the vaccine can't kill too many obviously, or people will notice. But a few athletes collapsing on the fields, a few children having heart attacks and strokes, shouldn't cause too much alarm. They’re playing the long game.
It’s also possible it could simply be a deadly novel virus.[/QUOTE]
So, control by a close group of individuals of a severely depopulated society.....got it. Sounds legit.
Ok but elite took the vax. Do you think they took a placebo? And Trump telling his supporters to take the vax, why does he want his own supporters to die? Or is it like when Hitler couldn't win the war, he wanted to destroy Germany? Trumps supporters were not successful to get him re-elected, so they must die?
And by the love of gawd, can you please explain what they mean by this borders are open?
[QUOTE=7Seconds;1651877013]Glad you asked. The Bilderberg Group and their public arm The World Economic Forum is the answer to your question.
How it works is there is a hierarchical power structure of the elite who pass top down orders from the bloodline families to the covert councils and round table groups (i.e. Bilderberg) to the overt councils and round table groups (WEF, Council on Foreign Relations) to eventually global government structures like the UN, WHO then to national medical bureaus (in the US that is the CDC, FDA, NIH & HHS), then those orders are passed down to the state health boards and then onto the county and local health boards. But know that these are just the Globalist Field Marshals on the battlefield for mankind. Above them are the elite banking, royal families & industrial titans (Rockefeller’s, Vanderbilt’s, DuPont’s). But if you really want to get to the bottom of this rabbit hole it’s probably in the old adage that told us: “All Roads Lead to Rome”.
So control is one goal. Depopulation is another. The elite class has gotten the idea that there are too many people on earth. They don't like to share. So they want to cut world population, by a lot. They figure that around half a billion total would give them more of a Garden of Eden experience.
Wars are good for this, but the new thinking is that if we can get everyone to take a vaccine that shortens life, it'll be more efficient, and it doesn't tear the place up so much. Of course the vaccine can't kill too many obviously, or people will notice. But a few athletes collapsing on the fields, a few children having heart attacks and strokes, shouldn't cause too much alarm. They’re playing the long game.
It’s also possible it could simply be a deadly novel virus.[/QUOTE]
Is this a serious post?
[QUOTE=Cass40;1651877593]Ok but elite took the vax. Do you think they took a placebo? And Trump telling his supporters to take the vax, why does he want his own supporters to die? Or is it like when Hitler couldn't win the war, he wanted to destroy Germany? Trumps supporters were not successful to get him re-elected, so they must die? [/quote]
I was bored and wrote some conspiracy nonsense as a joke. My sense of humor does not translate well on this forum. But trust me, I am fckn hilarious.
[quote]And by the love of gawd, can you please explain what they mean by this borders are open?[/QUOTE]
No I can’t.
[QUOTE=Cass40;1651877593]Ok but elite took the vax. Do you think they took a placebo? And Trump telling his supporters to take the vax, why does he want his own supporters to die? Or is it like when Hitler couldn't win the war, he wanted to destroy Germany? Trumps supporters were not successful to get him re-elected, so they must die?
And by the love of gawd, can you please explain what they mean by this borders are open?[/QUOTE]
It means that along the 1,954 miles of southern border of the US and Mexico there are strategically placed flashing signs that say, "vacancy" every 5 miles advertising for all to come to the US. It's part of Boe Jiden's plan to turn America into a 75% Hispanic nation, much to the chagrin of many on the right. /sarcasm
[QUOTE=7Seconds;1651878083]I was bored and wrote some conspiracy nonsense as a joke. My sense of humor does not translate well on this forum. But trust me, I am fckn hilarious.
No I can’t.[/QUOTE]
I know it was a joke. I don't have a room temperature IQ like the numbnut above me.
Edit: not bustasinclair :D
[QUOTE=mgftp;1651878013]Is this a serious post?[/QUOTE]
No it was not. I thought the last line would present the entire post as not serious. Apparently it did not.
[QUOTE=7Seconds;1651878273]No it was not. I thought the last line would present the entire post as not serious. Apparently it did not.[/QUOTE]
Can u explain the border thingy though. You said you were bored.
[QUOTE=7Seconds;1651878083]I was bored and wrote some conspiracy nonsense as a joke. My sense of humor does not translate well on this forum. But trust me, I am fckn hilarious.
No I can’t.[/QUOTE]
I got it. But, it was pretty dry, meaning that someone else might think you were serious. When you wrote "Bilderbergs," I was thinking 7 has lost it or he is being as sarcastic as sarcastic can be. It was funny. Next time please add in the Rothschild who along with the Bilderbergs, run the world.
[QUOTE=Cass40;1651878483]Can u explain the border thingy though. You said you were bored.[/QUOTE]
Open borders is a pretty broad topic. My views on our border is going to be a bit different than most on here but I will try to answer, just not sure what the exact question is. Also, I am now helping my youngest with homework so my answer may be delayed.
[QUOTE=Cass40;1651878263]I know it was a joke. I don't have a room temperature IQ like the numbnut above me.
Edit: not bustasinclair :D[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Mark1T;1651863053][i]"Biden says the US must 'vaccinate the rest of the world' to beat COVID-19 pandemic"[/i]
[url]https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-us-vaccinate-world-beat-covid-19-pandemic[/url]
The rest of the world, but allows an open border, letting hundreds of thousands of unvaccinated illegals cross the border and not even offering to vaccinate them :rolleyes:
We should be able to call out anyone who thinks we are this naive to take their word.
Not picking on Biden. Just calling out the obvious.[/QUOTE]
You see Fauci's response about the southern border when asked about travel bans?
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It’s also possible it could simply be an EASILY TRANSMITTED novel virus.[/QUOTE]
Fixed that for you with my reasoning being we will never ever get the true numbers of how many died from Covid itself. We know the reported cases of our typical yearly flu were down so is it possible covid filled in that gap? How many would have died anyways due to all sorts of other illnesses / co-morbidities they already had? How many were lumped into covid so hospitals and other businesses that get federal $$$ for this crap could continue to get these big dollars?
Look how quick Biden and team jumping on this latest Omicron variant to shut down air travel, extend mask mandates, force people to get vaccinated, etc when all reports so far have been this variant is pretty damn weak and seems to result in sore muscles and tiredness. A lot of this is a power grab that those who have it don't want to ever let go of it.
I waited it out for a while to see how things went with the shots, I wasn’t going to get them at first but if you want to have any kind of social life you may as well bite the bullet and get them. Just got my second a couple days ago, going back to all my favourite diners asap.
[QUOTE=Cass40;1651877593]Ok but elite took the vax. Do you think they took a placebo? And Trump telling his supporters to take the vax, why does he want his own supporters to die? Or is it like when Hitler couldn't win the war, he wanted to destroy Germany? Trumps supporters were not successful to get him re-elected, so they must die?
And by the love of gawd, can you please explain what they mean by this borders are open?[/QUOTE]
Wow how guilable are you? I'm not saying this is true but just because some elites claim to have gotten sick and took a jab on TV doesn't mean its real. The elites can do and say any fairy tale they want, they all stick together, if Biden and family are invited to the safe place fuk yeah he is gonna lie and he wont loose a nights sleep.
[QUOTE=7Seconds;1651878273]No it was not. I thought the last line would present the entire post as not serious. Apparently it did not.[/QUOTE]
I see now. I wasn't able to get far enough through the bullchit to make it there. LoL
[QUOTE=7Seconds;1651878273]No it was not. I thought the last line would present the entire post as not serious. Apparently it did not.[/QUOTE]
It was funny, i got it.
I am liking the escaped from the lab theory, but that is just me thinging to much at the gym.
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[QUOTE=JaymzJ;1651881233]I waited it out for a while to see how things went with the shots, I wasn’t going to get them at first but if you want to have any kind of social life you may as well bite the bullet and get them. Just got my second a couple days ago, going back to all my favourite diners asap.[/QUOTE]
I'd rather move to a non-authoritarian location, but that's just me. I've been traveling to the freedom-based states. No international travel planned. Glad I got most of that travel over the last decade. Likely not going anywhere international for a few years I guess. I traveled to Hawaii, which had a lot of stupid restrictions, won't do that again. I'm not traveling anywhere with restrictions.
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There's a lot to be said about the healthcare system in the US and practically none of it is good due to it's for profit nature that sucks money up to CEOs and away from our health. The last time I checked the US was like 37th in the world in healthcare outcomes. Remember when the last president promised affordable healthcare, a wall to keep out illegals, and a tax code that could be simplified to a piece of paper? How did all that go? Healthcare would be so much simpler with a single payer system like Medicare, but right wing media and propaganda has fooled so many people into thinking the capitalistic nature of our healthcare system is #1, when it actually sucks azz.
The libertarian crew wants to privatize everything except for roads, bridges, and the military. It's already underway. Who needs gubmint? lol... Government done right can be a great thing. The problem is the wealthy who are leaching off of the system and the systematic erosion of the middle class. Wake up people. This has been the downfall of every great civilization. Read a book. We're sitting here fighting amongst ourselves when the real enemies are building spacecraft and have $100M yachts. In the US we're all one serious injury or illness away from medical bankruptcy, but our system is #1, right? What a joke.
Oh, and the boarders are just as open as they've always been. How do you think all of the rich CEOs in the South get their cheap labor. Nobody really wants the boarders closed, but it's just another way to create outrage. A bunch of unvaccinated people screaming about immigrants spreading covid is very, very rich.
[QUOTE=Jbizzlechizzle;1651925733]There's a lot to be said about the healthcare system in the US and practically none of it is good due to it's for profit nature that sucks money up to CEOs and away from our health. The last time I checked the US was like 37th in the world in healthcare outcomes. Remember when the last president promised affordable healthcare, a wall to keep out illegals, and a tax code that could be simplified to a piece of paper? How did all that go? Healthcare would be so much simpler with a single payer system like Medicare, but right wing media and propaganda has fooled so many people into thinking the capitalistic nature of our healthcare system is #1, when it actually sucks azz.
The libertarian crew wants to privatize everything except for roads, bridges, and the military. It's already underway. Who needs gubmint? lol... Government done right can be a great thing. The problem is the wealthy who are leaching off of the system and the systematic erosion of the middle class. Wake up people. This has been the downfall of every great civilization. Read a book. We're sitting here fighting amongst ourselves when the real enemies are building spacecraft and have $100M yachts. In the US we're all one serious injury or illness away from medical bankruptcy, but our system is #1, right? What a joke.
Oh, and the boarders are just as open as they've always been. How do you think all of the rich CEOs in the South get their cheap labor. Nobody really wants the boarders closed, but it's just another way to create outrage. A bunch of unvaccinated people screaming about immigrants spreading covid is very, very rich.[/QUOTE]
Stop discussing the real problems with real solutions. No one is listening. We're too polarized to become one. It's all part of the plan. Big tech works with all govt. agencies and the White House to drive the divide. Psaki even admitted this regarding Covid. Meanwhile China and Russia are just laughing at us and continue with their plans to conquer us from within.
This is about bringing America to it's knees.
[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1651902943]It was funny, i got it.
I am liking the escaped from the lab theory, but that is just me thinging to much at the gym.[/QUOTE]
Personally, I think accidental release from a US funded research lab in Wuhan is pretty plausible, if not likely.