Will you get vaccinated?

[QUOTE=mgftp;1638947763]No, you aren't getting it. Forget all your other ramblings, when it comes to clinical trial design alone, you don't get it. Again, no offense, your average person probably doesn't get it. But your average person isn't talking about it like they do. It's silly to read you continue to post things based upon flawed ideas due to lack of understanding of core concepts. You are obviously deep into some misinformation hole that I'd encourage you to find your way out of. It's like having a conversation with someone who believes the earth is flat.



You really gotta stop name calling in relation to the intelligence of others considering the stuff you are posting.



Isn't he an MD? What exactly is your education? Very curious. SrS[/QUOTE]

You're a cute little sheep who believes he found the truth right in the open. CNN found you and showed you the truth! Thanks Don Lemon!

First day my LA Fitness dropped masks for "Vaccinated" people lulz. Felt good as ****

I am 26 hours post Pfizer #1 shot. Absolutely zero after effects.. Since the shot I Hiked yesterday and today for a total of 27 miles, still alive and kicking..

Hope Tater is still sucking air and enjoyed his Lolly pop.



[QUOTE=mgftp;1639122223]Pfizer #2 juice in me and I wait in the observation area. Can feel my DNA changing already.[/QUOTE]

LMAO... How's it going man and After effects? What do I have to look forward to on #2 lol

[QUOTE=mtpockets;1639172243]I am 26 hours post Pfizer #1 shot. Absolutely zero after effects.. Since the shot I Hiked yesterday and today for a total of 27 miles, still alive and kicking..

Hope Tater is still sucking air and enjoyed his Lolly pop.





LMAO... How's it going man and After effects? What do I have to look forward to on #2 lol[/QUOTE]

I am 18 hours post dose. Definitely feel tired but so far shot 1 was way worse for me, not too bad but I had a low grade fever and chills after the first. Nothing like that thus far for me on the 2nd, we'll see how the rest of the day goes.

[QUOTE=mgftp;1639172523]I am 18 hours post dose. Definitely feel tired but so far shot 1 was way worse for me, not too bad but I had a low grade fever and chills after the first. Nothing like that thus far for me on the 2nd, we'll see how the rest of the day goes.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the update, hope I didn't jinx myself by beaking off about no ae's yet lol.... Hope it goes smooth for ya

I had the same BS as I had from my tet shot, joints were achy, head was foggy and had chills.

I hooked up my office PC, monitor (from home) installed VPN tested it, and then all symptoms disappeared.

But today at the gym was rough, both shoulders sore as fuk, squats sucked.

I did some nice strict overhead pressing with 150 for a lot of singles, everything seemed to take longer to warm up to. The jab was in my arm for too long, that chit was sore immediately, amateurs giving jabs..........

[QUOTE=LWW;1639175423]I had the same BS as I had from my tet shot, joints were achy, head was foggy and had chills.

I hooked up my office PC, monitor (from home) installed VPN tested it, and then all symptoms disappeared.

But today at the gym was rough, both shoulders sore as fuk, squats sucked.

I did some nice strict overhead pressing with 150 for a lot of singles, everything seemed to take longer to warm up to. The jab was in my arm for too long, that chit was sore immediately, amateurs giving jabs..........[/QUOTE]


Geesh Tater I had none of that...

I went to a mass vaccine clinic they hold in the nearby town, it was very well organized. They had some nurses giving shots and I got the doc. Rolled up my sleeve and he said oh, someones a vet.. I said are you a fuking wizard or something? He chuckled and said no I see the old scar from the gun. He said this will be a breeze compared to that lol. He wasn't kidding, it was in and out within a couple of seconds and I never felt a thing. By far the easiest needle I have ever gotten and I have been stuck more than most pin cushions. Very pleasant experience.

Hope the after effects leave ya soon.

[QUOTE=mtpockets;1639177213]Geesh Tater I had none of that...

I went to a mass vaccine clinic they hold in the nearby town, it was very well organized. They had some nurses giving shots and I got the doc. Rolled up my sleeve and he said oh, someones a vet.. I said are you a fuking wizard or something? He chuckled and said no I see the old scar from the gun. He said this will be a breeze compared to that lol. He wasn't kidding, it was in and out within a couple of seconds and I never felt a thing. By far the easiest needle I have ever gotten and I have been stuck more than most pin cushions. Very pleasant experience.

Hope the after effects leave ya soon.[/QUOTE]

I went to my new drs office, but he didn’t give me any shots, the nurses do, the one who gave me the tet, I didn’t even know it. The nurse that gave me the vaccine she had that needle in my arm for almost a 10 count, and I could feel it, I wasn’t looking.

No real effects today except sore in the gym,the arm I got the shot in is just very sore, but it no biggie.......

I should’ve gotten it in the Dik LOL.

Pockets, I've had both shots (Pfizer) and no side effects except for a sore arm. My second shot was back in April and so far I haven't grown a second head yet :) Side effects from the shingles vaccine I had last year was way worse (chills, fever, body aches).

I am surprised how compliant people are . Do you believe that most are sheep or just don't care?

[QUOTE=mtpockets;1639177213]Geesh Tater I had none of that...

I went to a mass vaccine clinic they hold in the nearby town, it was very well organized. They had some nurses giving shots and I got the doc. Rolled up my sleeve and he said oh, someones a vet.. I said are you a fuking wizard or something? He chuckled and said no I see the old scar from the gun. He said this will be a breeze compared to that lol. He wasn't kidding, it was in and out within a couple of seconds and I never felt a thing. By far the easiest needle I have ever gotten and I have been stuck more than most pin cushions. Very pleasant experience.

Hope the after effects leave ya soon.[/QUOTE]
You finally gave in right?

[QUOTE=Desparado;1639178233]Pockets, I've had both shots (Pfizer) and no side effects except for a sore arm. My second shot was back in April and so far I haven't grown a second head yet :) Side effects from the shingles vaccine I had last year was way worse (chills, fever, body aches).[/QUOTE]

Since you brought up shingles, that’s something if your old enough will kill you long and slow, my grandpa died from it, he suffered for a full year and that chit is contagious........

He actually died during the lock downs, but it made me think, how come gov don’t force vaccines and shut chit down for shingles, everybody who has had pox is at risk for shingles.....

No political agenda, eh??????

Hey Ben, yup shingles tortured my granddad for a fuking year before killing him!

[QUOTE=LWW;1639178083]

I should’ve gotten it in the Dik LOL.[/QUOTE]

LMAO Micro vaccination



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[QUOTE=Desparado;1639178233]Pockets, I've had both shots (Pfizer) and no side effects except for a sore arm. My second shot was back in April and so far I haven't grown a second head yet :) Side effects from the shingles vaccine I had last year was way worse (chills, fever, body aches).[/QUOTE]

ha ha . These are the type of stories I like to hear.. Good Stuff! I should look into the shingles vax, I had the chicken pox as a kid, still covered in marks from that fun experience.

[QUOTE=MinisterOfLust;1639178743]You finally gave in right?[/QUOTE]

Yeah I did, Really not much of a need to for me personally, I am not around a lot of people and live in the sticks. But I have this old friend that is getting up in years, spent his life in the bush and now lives in a home and I am his connection to the bush. He likes me to visit and wants to spend time with me. Keeps calling me up asking if I got the shot yet so we can visit lol. So I got the Jab and after the next one I can take the old bastard fishing or whatever whenever he wants to go.

[QUOTE=mtpockets;1639179803]LMAO Micro vaccination



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ha ha . These are the type of stories I like to hear.. Good Stuff! I should look into the shingles vax, I had the chicken pox as a kid, still covered in marks from that fun experience.



Yeah I did, Really not much of a need to for me personally, I am not around a lot of people and live in the sticks. But I have this old friend that is getting up in years, spent his life in the bush and now lives in a home and I am his connection to the bush. He likes me to visit and wants to spend time with me. Keeps calling me up asking if I got the shot yet so we can visit lol. So I got the Jab and after the next one I can take the old bastard fishing or whatever whenever he wants to go.[/QUOTE]

Omg you are waay to "compliant". lol :)
Caring about or thinking about how your actions could hurt others, bad guy. :)

[QUOTE=LWW;1639179573]Since you brought up shingles, that’s something if your old enough will kill you long and slow, my grandpa died from it, he suffered for a full year and that chit is contagious........

He actually died during the lock downs, but it made me think, how come gov don’t force vaccines and shut chit down for shingles, everybody who has had pox is at risk for shingles.....

No political agenda, eh??????

Hey Ben, yup shingles tortured my granddad for a fuking year before killing him![/QUOTE]

I wasn't planning on getting the shingles vaccine but 2 years ago I had a co-worker get the shingles on her face and it was horrible! Then last year a buddy of mine got it (in his torso) and he was in so much pain that i said screw it, I don't want to end up like those two and got it the vaccine. Also, you mentioned the covid vaccine shot hurt going in. I had a similar nurse(?) who just jabbed/stabbed it in there. I was like, wtf? I'm not a puss when it comes to needles but that stung quite a bit. It was almost like she took a running start and then stabbed me!

[QUOTE=mtpockets;1639179803]LMAO Micro vaccination



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ha ha . These are the type of stories I like to hear.. Good Stuff! I should look into the shingles vax, I had the chicken pox as a kid, still covered in marks from that fun experience.

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Yeah, consider to get the shingles vaccine man. See what I told LWW above.

[QUOTE=mtpockets;1639179803]

Yeah I did, Really not much of a need to for me personally, I am not around a lot of people and live in the sticks. But I have this old friend that is getting up in years, spent his life in the bush and now lives in a home and I am his connection to the bush. He likes me to visit and wants to spend time with me. Keeps calling me up asking if I got the shot yet so we can visit lol. So I got the Jab and after the next one I can take the old bastard fishing or whatever whenever he wants to go.[/QUOTE]

Solid. On spread.

[QUOTE=Desparado;1639181673]I wasn't planning on getting the shingles vaccine but 2 years ago I had a co-worker get the shingles on her face and it was horrible! Then last year a buddy of mine got it (in his torso) and he was in so much pain that i said screw it, I don't want to end up like those two and got it the vaccine. Also, you mentioned the covid vaccine shot hurt going in. I had a similar nurse(?) who just jabbed/stabbed it in there. I was like, wtf? I'm not a puss when it comes to needles but that stung quite a bit. It was almost like she took a running start and then stabbed me!



Yeah, consider to get the shingles vaccine man. See what I told LWW above.[/QUOTE]


I’m getting the shingles vaccine for sure when doc gives me ok.

I wonder how many folks are now type 2 or pre diebetic after this long lockdown and gym closure?

[QUOTE=mtpockets;1639179803]LMAO Micro vaccination



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Ha, now that pic is no help for micro problem.........

The first nurse I had, I wanted to take off the pants for her, shoulda asked for the butt.......

[QUOTE=LWW;1639183153]

I wonder how many folks are now type 2 or pre diebetic after this long lockdown and gym closure?[/QUOTE]

Probably lots Tater, I have a friend, if he eats one more bar or bag of chips, he's going to have to come out via the picture window.

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Getting vaccinated crew checkin in

So my 2nd dose Pfizer was way better in terms of adverse events than my first. Some of my MD friends would say this could be due to having had asymptomatic Covid at some point. Either way in two weeks I am living my life nearly as nor Al with others who are vaxed and the thought of that is very nice.

[QUOTE=mgftp;1639294483]So my 2nd dose Pfizer was way better in terms of adverse events than my first...[/QUOTE] Not aware of any study, just anecdotally: heard it from 10 people and yet to hear anyone say the second was worse or also bad. The first one made them feel ill and the second one nowhere near as bad, both Pfizer and AZ.

Had my first on April 15th but can't get a date for my second any earlier than July 1st (exactly 11 weeks). There's most likely a lot of people who need their 1st more than I need my 2nd, so I can hang in there

[QUOTE=mgftp;1639294483]So my 2nd dose Pfizer was way better in terms of adverse events than my first. Some of my MD friends would say this could be due to having had asymptomatic Covid at some point. Either way in two weeks I am living my life nearly as nor Al with others who are vaxed and the thought of that is very nice.[/QUOTE]

That's what I hear for this neck of the woods. Two weeks after the second dose and no masks or social distancing will be required.

I wonder if the people I see walking outside wearing masks AND face shields will catch on.

[QUOTE=OldFartTom;1639296323]Not aware of any study, just anecdotally: heard it from 10 people and yet to hear anyone say the second was worse or also bad. The first one made them feel ill and the second one nowhere near as bad, both Pfizer and AZ.

Had my first on April 15th but can't get a date for my second any earlier than July 1st (exactly 11 weeks). There's most likely a lot of people who need their 1st more than I need my 2nd, so I can hang in there[/QUOTE]

Most I know are hit harder their second dose, and I believe that is what clinical data shows. Maybe JustDad can chime in.

What my doc friends as told me in general terms is first exposure gives your body the blueprint of what to look for, 2nd exposure it fights the virus and therefore more side effects. Why some would theorize that someone that sees more side effects on the first dose might have been exposed already.

All of that simply what I am hearing from people talking around me. To be clear I don't know the validity of those thoughts.

[QUOTE=mgftp;1639298083]Most I know are hit harder their second dose, and I believe that is what clinical data shows. Maybe JustDad can chime in.

What my doc friends as told me in general terms is first exposure gives your body the blueprint of what to look for, 2nd exposure it fights the virus and therefore more side effects. Why some would theorize that someone that sees more side effects on the first dose might have been exposed already.

All of that simply what I am hearing from people talking around me. To be clear I don't know the validity of those thoughts.[/QUOTE]

Can't add much to that. You're spot on. Fever, chills, and other systemic symptoms were more common after the second shot of Pfizer or Moderna. I'm not sure about localized arm pain. Don't know the details of Sputnik's side effects.

Whether or not some of the people having a lot of systemic symptoms after their first dose were previously exposed to the virus is something a lot of us speculate on. I haven't see any data proving it, and remember, all the people in the trials were tested before they enrolled. Some of them had symptoms after the first shot with nothing to indicate prior exposure, so maybe it's genetic, maybe it's cross reactivity to some other virus they had as a kid but to which their antibody titers already became undetectable, maybe it's something else. I don't haven't seen a good explanation. Sorry.

[QUOTE=supramax;1639296583]That's what I hear for this neck of the woods. Two weeks after the second dose and no masks or social distancing will be required.

I wonder if the people I see walking outside wearing masks AND face shields will catch on.[/QUOTE]

What are you talking about, you can certainly be unvaccinated and go just about anywhere without a mask.

........even if you are vaccinated you still have to wear a fuking mask on planes and public transportation, that’s why I said the whole freedom talk is BS....

Have fun when corporate sends y’all to visit your new boss Chyna, on a plane wearing a fuking mask the entire 20 hour flight, better hope you don’t have a mishap and take that mask off of a minute, they’ll kick your azz off in the middle of the ocean.

.....you guys are not woke on freedom!

[QUOTE=LWW;1639302883]you guys are not woke on freedom![/QUOTE]

Maybe they're just more concerned about what we might try if we have a shortage of ventilators

[url]https://nypost.com/2021/05/15/japanese-scientists-say-breathing-through-rectums-saved-mice/amp/[/url]

[QUOTE=LWW;1639302883]What are you talking about, you can certainly be unvaccinated and go just about anywhere without a mask.

........even if you are vaccinated you still have to wear a fuking mask on planes and public transportation, that’s why I said the whole freedom talk is BS....

Have fun when corporate sends y’all to visit your new boss Chyna, on a plane wearing a fuking mask the entire 20 hour flight, better hope you don’t have a mishap and take that mask off of a minute, they’ll kick your azz off in the middle of the ocean.

.....you guys are not woke on freedom![/QUOTE]

What am I talking about? I'm talking about Quebec where there are curfews and where people get arrested for not wearing masks in stores.

Apparently, the above will end on May, 28.

If I'm gonna be in the air for 20 hours, I have better destinations than China. :)

[QUOTE=supramax;1639304593]... I'm talking about Quebec ...[/QUOTE] I think LWW was talking about the land of the Free, but you had to throw in the example of Trudeau Regime. You know the guy has a fetish for dressing up in costumes, well he wants all loyal citizens to wear masks. People in the PRC (People's Republic of Canada) should be lucky it's a mask and not anything more bizzare ;)

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