[QUOTE=TryingBB;1637807563]What the actual fuk? You made it sound like you already got the vax? (That message you sent with the rep - actually made me a bit better about it and I went and got my first shot) WTH?
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I sure hope this is a joke.
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[QUOTE=TryingBB;1637807563]What the actual fuk? You made it sound like you already got the vax? (That message you sent with the rep - actually made me a bit better about it and I went and got my first shot) WTH?
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I sure hope this is a joke.
[QUOTE=TryingBB;1637807563]What the actual fuk? You made it sound like you already got the vax? (That message you sent with the rep - actually made me a bit better about it and I went and got my first shot) WTH?...[/QUOTE] OK, so you can be our thread guinee pig. I assume you'll be just fine give or take a sore arm (and if AZ 12 hours of feeling very bad a day after the vax) But, according to some contributors your fate is sealed, certain death. If you start bleeding uncontrollably from every orifice, please post a quick comment here before you pass out, so we know who was right.
[QUOTE=eomrat;1637812203]I sure hope this is a joke.[/QUOTE]
Dr. Pockets!
[QUOTE=LWW;1637813923]Dr. Humpty Pockets![/QUOTE]
Fixed. :)
Ooops Sorry TryingBB, hope the shot didn't hurt too much. :D
[QUOTE=LWW;1637813923]Dr. Pockets![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=supramax;1637817593]Fixed. :)[/QUOTE]
Oh Lookie here, the Star twins. Jupiter and Stupider. You gals should take this show on the road, You're Hilarious :D
[QUOTE=mtpockets;1637822953]...
Oh Lookie here, the Star twins. Jupiter and Stupider. You gals should take this show on the road, You're Hilarious :D[/QUOTE]
'Supertampax' made me laugh and I know you like playing with names, so I thought you'd appreciate 'Humpty' for mt. I didn't mean to hurt a little girls feelings. :)
After a series of thoughts and events (my coworker who’s 21 in hospital from COVID having issues breathing) and doc friends cussing me out and dr mtpockets lol and news of ppl dying from it (friends and family and actual media) and 100mil plus people having got the vaccine and chit loads of misinformation and conspiracies, I decided it’s time to go get one.
No regrets
But then that may be a part of the programming in the chip they injected?
[QUOTE=supramax;1637824143] I didn't mean to hurt a little girls feelings. :)[/QUOTE]
I dunno, if you hurt Taters feelings or not, hard to tell with Tater, always crying about something, usually about a 3 ounce piece of cloth
Pockets Surgean General Guide
At least he admitted he passed on the vaccine like a president should.
The way Biden acts I’m not so sure he even got a vaccine?
[QUOTE=LWW;1637832493]Pockets Surgean General Guide
At least he admitted he passed on the vaccine like a president should.
The way Biden acts I’m not so sure he even got a vaccine?[/QUOTE]
Whats a Surgean?
My 22 years old cousin just text me that she caught COVID after she got the vaccine two weeks ago. There
hey supra, your avatar, are you wearing a kilt?
[QUOTE=MinisterOfLust;1637834413]My 22 years old cousin just text me that she caught COVID after she got the vaccine two weeks ago. There[/QUOTE]
Vaccines (this one and others) take a few weeks to kick in. Hope she's fine and gets no symptoms
[QUOTE=OldFartTom;1637834773]hey supra, your avatar, are you wearing a kilt?[/QUOTE]
It's her dress
[QUOTE=OldFartTom;1637834773]hey supra, your avatar, are you wearing a kilt?
Vaccines (this one and others) take a few weeks to kick in. Hope she's fine and gets no symptoms[/QUOTE]
She has mild symptoms like body aches and tiredness.
[QUOTE=MinisterOfLust;1637835633]She has mild symptoms like body aches and tiredness.[/QUOTE]
Hope it subsides and the shot lessens the effects. Do you know what shot she got?
[QUOTE=OldFartTom;1637834773]hey supra, your avatar, are you wearing a kilt?[/QUOTE]
House coat.
[QUOTE=LWW;1637409973]had Trump never been president, I believe this virus would of been contained.[/QUOTE]This is true, but likely not for the reason you are alluding to.
[QUOTE=MinisterOfLust;1637834413]My 22 years old cousin just text me that she caught COVID after she got the vaccine two weeks ago. There[/QUOTE]
And that is why the say
J+J 20% chance
Pfizer 5% chance
Moderna 5.5% chance
Astra Z 37% chance
Sputnik 8.2% chance
of getting Covid-19 once vaccinated
So far none have reached the 100% level as of yet.
[QUOTE=mtpockets;1637835863]Hope it subsides and the shot lessens the effects. Do you know what shot she got?[/QUOTE]
I don't know which vaccines she got.
[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1637838093]And that is why the say
J+J 20% chance
Pfizer 5% chance
Moderna 5.5% chance
Astra Z 37% chance
Sputnik 8.2% chance
of getting Covid-19 once vaccinated
So far none have reached the 100% level as of yet.[/QUOTE]
Your facts prove nothing.
Someone on the internets cousin works with a lady whose niece got Covid after being vaccinated. Therefore, the vaccine does not work. None of them. Even the Polio vaccine.
[QUOTE=mtpockets;1637835863]Hope it subsides and the shot lessens the effects. Do you know what shot she got?[/QUOTE]
Shot lessons the effects, means just a cold or flu?
Sounds like she has flu symptoms.
Flu...........
What was it 20 years ago when the FDA was giving out faulty nutrition guidelines? Now we expect them to know how much vaccine is tolerable?
[QUOTE=LWW;1637841493]Shot lessons the effects, means just a cold or flu?
Sounds like she has flu symptoms.
Flu...........[/QUOTE]
Lessens FFS, you could have copied my spelling...:D
I am not explaining how the vaccine works to you again. You won't understand it anyway
[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1637838093]And that is why the say
J+J 20% chance
Pfizer 5% chance
Moderna 5.5% chance
Astra Z 37% chance
Sputnik 8.2% chance
of getting Covid-19 once vaccinated
So far none have reached the 100% level as of yet.[/QUOTE]
None of those figures are at 2 weeks from first vaccination. The most extensively studied one is AZ and it does absolutely nothing (yet) until 10 days or so when they start seeing a slight drop off in infections, but at the 10 day to 2 weeks stage it's still very minor, you need to wait to you get to 4 weeks to get any significant benefits from the first jab, and the higher percentage they like to tell everyone is from > 2weeks after the second dose. This stuff takes time!
I'm 20 days post Pfizer #2. The wife is 5hrs post
Moderna #2.
So far, so good.
[QUOTE=TryingBB;1637828713]After a series of thoughts and events (my coworker who’s 21 in hospital from COVID having issues breathing) and doc friends cussing me out and dr mtpockets lol and news of ppl dying from it (friends and family and actual media) and 100mil plus people having got the vaccine and chit loads of misinformation and conspiracies, I decided it’s time to go get one.
No regrets
But then that may be a part of the programming in the chip they injected?[/QUOTE]
Just saw someone I work with who I hadn't seen in awhile which I figured was just because of all the WFH stuff and schedules. She had Covid and was hospitalized, very healthy person around 30 years old.
I'll take my chances on the vaccine rather than Covid. Can't wait for the time to pass to when I can get that 2ns dose of DNA modification in my arm.
[QUOTE=MinisterOfLust;1637834413]My 22 years old cousin just text me that she caught COVID after she got the vaccine two weeks ago. There[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MinisterOfLust;1637835633]She has mild symptoms like body aches and tiredness.[/QUOTE]
And if she hadn't gotten the vaccine she might have been hospitalized or dead. There.
[img]https://i.imgur.com/lZTgD3o.jpg[/img]
Phah! I didn't need quarantine, I owned that look before covid
[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1637838093]And that is why the say
J+J 20% chance
Pfizer 5% chance
Moderna 5.5% chance
Astra Z 37% chance
Sputnik 8.2% chance
of getting Covid-19 once vaccinated
So far none have reached the 100% level as of yet.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OldFartTom;1637843133]None of those figures are at 2 weeks from first vaccination. The most extensively studied one is AZ and it does absolutely nothing (yet) until 10 days or so when they start seeing a slight drop off in infections, but at the 10 day to 2 weeks stage it's still very minor, you need to wait to you get to 4 weeks to get any significant benefits from the first jab, and the higher percentage they like to tell everyone is from > 2weeks after the second dose. This stuff takes time![/QUOTE]
You're both wrong in a way. Tom, you are mostly right in what you are trying to convey, but you're drawing conclusions we don't have evidence for.
You need to realize how we're running these trials. You have drop outs, you have subjects getting a vaccine outside of the study when their name comes up, you have a small number who get sick during the study at which point you test them for COVID 19, and you get a few infections you pick up that aren't symptomatic. In a study with 35-40,000 subjects, you run your evaluation when you get between 50 and 70 confirmed cases, and then you keep re-analyzing it.
We can't tell you how much protection you got at 1 week vs 2 weeks vs 4 weeks vs 2 weeks post shot # 2. The study data doesn't provide the power to do so statistically and the population data doesn't have a high enough resolution either. It's likely a lot of people, especially younger individuals, have a good start on developing some immunity 10 days after their first shot, but people are different, there are multiple viral strains, and we just don't have a way to analyze the efficacy of their antibody levels yet. So saying the vaccine does nothing at day 10 is wrong. Maybe it provides most people with partial immunity so 99.99% would just get the sniffles instead of .2% of them getting put on a vent.
The number's Ben posted are equally uninformative, because the studies are run in different locations, get exposed to different viral strains, they have different visit schedules and they even measure their outcomes a little differently.
I'd avoid trying to read too much into the limited statistical data you learn about online or trying to explain the odds of anecdotal stories about people getting COVID after their vaccine based on what they got an when. I think everyone on this thread is aware that all the vaccines that have EUA seem to provide a significant level of protection, they all probably decrease the severity of COVID 19 infections if you do happen to get it post vaccine, and they're all looking very safe. They're not perfect, but honestly, they're shockingly good for vaccines regardless of how long it took to develop them.
[QUOTE=JustTheDad;1637847533]You're both wrong in a way. Tom, you are mostly right in what you are trying to convey, but you're drawing conclusions we don't have evidence for.
You need to realize how we're running these trials. You have drop outs, you have subjects getting a vaccine outside of the study when their name comes up, you have a small number who get sick during the study at which point you test them for COVID 19, and you get a few infections you pick up that aren't symptomatic. In a study with 35-40,000 subjects, you run your evaluation when you get between 50 and 70 confirmed cases, and then you keep re-analyzing it.
We can't tell you how much protection you got at 1 week vs 2 weeks vs 4 weeks vs 2 weeks post shot # 2. The study data doesn't provide the power to do so statistically and the population data doesn't have a high enough resolution either. It's likely a lot of people, especially younger individuals, have a good start on developing some immunity 10 days after their first shot, but people are different, there are multiple viral strains, and we just don't have a way to analyze the efficacy of their antibody levels yet. So saying the vaccine does nothing at day 10 is wrong. Maybe it provides most people with partial immunity so 99.99% would just get the sniffles instead of .2% of them getting put on a vent.
The number's Ben posted are equally uninformative, because the studies are run in different locations, get exposed to different viral strains, they have different visit schedules and they even measure their outcomes a little differently.
I'd avoid trying to read too much into the limited statistical data you learn about online or trying to explain the odds of anecdotal stories about people getting COVID after their vaccine based on what they got an when. I think everyone on this thread is aware that all the vaccines that have EUA seem to provide a significant level of protection, they all probably decrease the severity of COVID 19 infections if you do happen to get it post vaccine, and they're all looking very safe. They're not perfect, but honestly, they're shockingly good for vaccines regardless of how long it took to develop them.[/QUOTE]
Interesting. But to be fair you’re just a dad.