-
[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1639546903]Google finds the articles,but we open them and decide which sources are more reliable and which are not. I looked at 4 and decided which of the 4 to quote. Notice the unbiased approach to the conclusion.
Some of the articles concluded that is was a superspreader event because of the number of people and the cdc tracing.[/QUOTE]
It’s totally bias, you never ever point out black protesting as a spreader, but you continue to look at a biker event that is pro Trump and Jan 6.
What your missing is the fact that black protesting (whites protesting for blacks) the Covid stays level because this went on for months, but the Trumpers have been at home or working the whole time, so it’s fuking obvious that when they go to a rally, you will see a spike.........
I wonder if that’s too much for your pee wee mind to handle?
Keep using silly Google and become a person who can’t think.........
More ab wheels than brains,.......
Yeah I’ll drive an hour to meet you for some ab wheel, NOT....
-
[QUOTE=LWW;1639545103]Stiff legged squats, LOL, now that is gold!!![/QUOTE] Yeah Bulgarian Deadlifts, Stiff legged Squats and shake weight are my go-to for trolling exercise suggestions
-
[QUOTE=OldFartTom;1639547963]Yeah Bulgarian Deadlifts, Stiff legged Squats and shake weight are my go-to for trolling exercise suggestions[/QUOTE]
Bulgarian Deadlifts is doable. :)
-
[QUOTE=LWW;1639547883]It’s totally bias, you never ever point out black protesting as a spreader, but you continue to look at a biker event that is pro Trump and Jan 6.
What your missing is the fact that black protesting (whites protesting for blacks) the Covid stays level because this went on for months, but the Trumpers have been at home or working the whole time, so it’s fuking obvious that when they go to a rally, you will see a spike.........
I wonder if that’s too much for your pee wee mind to handle?
Keep using silly Google and become a person who can’t think.........
More ab wheels than brains,.......
Yeah I’ll drive an hour to meet you for some ab wheel, NOT....[/QUOTE]
You just proved how much of an idiot you are again.
Sturgis was used because "Paul the covid denier",used it in his example. Did you miss that between drinks?
The ab wheel is a tool recently mentioned to stimulate the abs more than any other exercise on a percentage basis using studies, did you miss that between drinks?
Google is a tool to point you in a direction, not draw conclusions, did you miss that between breakfast drinks?
Meeting me was a" balls check" for you which you failed miserably, with your girly excuse that" I am too busy," but you missed that too between drinks.
-
[QUOTE=supramax;1639548173]Bulgarian Deadlifts is doable. :)[/QUOTE] Yes but pretty unlikely, if it was all just impossible nobody would bite
[QUOTE=LWW;1639547883]...Yeah I’ll drive an hour to meet you for some ab wheel, NOT....[/QUOTE] FFS, why don't you meet up and do a barbell workout, banning all discussion of virusseses (virii) or politics and no showing off about how much weight etc. You might have a good workout and learn something from each other. Is there somewhere with a decent gym 30 mins from each of you?
-
[QUOTE=OldFartTom;1639549393]Yes but pretty unlikely, if it was all just impossible nobody would bite
FFS, why don't you meet up and do a barbell workout, banning all discussion of virusseses (virii) or politics and no showing off about how much weight etc. You might have a good workout and learn something from each other. Is there somewhere with a decent gym 30 mins from each of you?[/QUOTE]
He is tooo busy with Dundalk Barbie to meet.
Not happening.
-
[QUOTE=OldFartTom;1639549393]Yes but pretty unlikely... [/QUOTE]
I don't know about that. Single leg deadlifts are a thing, so why not elevate the unweighted leg? You might have just invented an exercise. :)
P.S. You have naming rights.
-
[QUOTE=mgftp;1639474243]The NY hospital system was on the brink of collapse if hospitalizations kept increasing as they were and the ship was there as backup. The shutdown which it appears you are saying shouldn't have happened is what saved NY from from needing the ship and becoming Italy or India at it's worst.[/QUOTE]
Italy did have lockdowns and curfews. So why didn't they save Italy from becoming Italy?
-
Nobody ITT does yoga?
[QUOTE=sy2502;1639551473]Italy did have lockdowns and curfews. So why didn't they save Italy from becoming Italy?[/QUOTE]
Too late? Far from an expert on the situation, but that would surely be my guess. I also think it's fair to say without lockdowns things would have gotten worse.
-
[QUOTE=mgftp;1639553993]Nobody ITT does yoga?
Too late? Far from an expert on the situation, but that would surely be my guess. I also think it's fair to say without lockdowns things would have gotten worse.[/QUOTE]
It's not at all fair actually, as studies have shown
[quote]A Stanford study comparing Covid responses in different countries found “no clear significant beneficial effect” from stay-at-home orders and business closures.
The peer-reviewed study, published Jan. 5 in the European Journal of Clinical Investigation, found that lockdown orders early in the Covid pandemic didn’t provide more benefits than other measures such as social distancing and travel reduction.
The study investigated measures by England, France, Germany, Iran, Italy, Netherlands, Spain, the U.S., South Korea and Sweden.
The first eight countries imposed stay-at-home orders on residents while South Korea and Sweden took less restrictive steps.
The researchers used a mathematical model to compare the countries.
They found “no clear, significant beneficial effect of (more restrictive measures) on case growth in any country.”
[/quote]
[url]https://padailypost.com/2021/01/18/stanford-study-lockdowns-have-no-clear-benefit/[/url]
We had an example here in the US where states with more relaxed covid measures faired the same as those with the most stringent measures, if not better.
-
[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1639549713]He is tooo busy with Dundalk Barbie to meet.
Not happening.[/QUOTE]
I won’t step foot in Dundalk, but I did go to the ZU in Dundalk many years ago, that place is like the bar in Star Wars where They first met Han Solo.......
I’m in the process of moving, far away from that area, most our stuff is in storage, Our house is being built now.
-
[QUOTE=sy2502;1639554813]It's not at all fair actually, as studies have shown
[url]https://padailypost.com/2021/01/18/stanford-study-lockdowns-have-no-clear-benefit/[/url]
We had an example here in the US where states with more relaxed covid measures faired the same as those with the most stringent measures, if not better.[/QUOTE]
As I said a page or two back, who has any idea how necessary shutdowns or the extent of shutdowns were. Take NY for example, we didn't lockdown except for very small portions of the geography as a whole but the masks, social distancing, and working from home (are we calling this shutdown?) to me would have an effect on disease spread. I don't see how you could think otherwise with Covid being an airborne disease spread by close proximity.
I guess I need to stop saying lockdown, and just say shutdown or take precautions?
[QUOTE=LWW;1639558693]I won’t step foot in Dundalk, but I did go to the ZU in Dundalk many years ago, that place is like the bar in Star Wars where They first met Han Solo.......
I’m in the process of moving, far away from that area, most our stuff is in storage, Our house is being built now.[/QUOTE]
Did you get building material prices locked in?
-
[url]https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/********-lifts-ban-posts-claiming-covid-19-man/story?id=77931433[/url]
[b][color=red]ABC News: ******** lifts ban on posts claiming COVID-19 was man-made, amid revitalized origins debate[/color][/b]
Do sheep KNOW they are sheep?
-
[QUOTE=CommitmentRulz;1639563653]Do sheep KNOW they are sheep?[/QUOTE]
They did a ewe turn
-
[QUOTE=supramax;1639551313]I don't know about that. Single leg deadlifts are a thing, so why not elevate the unweighted leg? You might have just invented an exercise. :)
P.S. You have naming rights.[/QUOTE]
I didn't invent Bulgarian Deadlifts, but I will lay claim to stiff legged squats, I need to monetize it though. I'll get a website called nose over toes guy and hope people confuse me with that other guy, paywall it as a subscription program plus rent a lot of advert clicks "Do this one weird exercise every day and PTs will hate you". I think I'll buy one of these [url]https://revologycars.com/car/1968-mustang-22-fastback-r-spec/[/url] with the money
-
[QUOTE=mgftp;1639559433]
Did you get building material prices locked in?[/QUOTE]
Yeahhhh buddyyyyyyyy!!!!!
It’ll be ready in a month, I’ll stop being an angry white man then, lol.
But now I’m biting my tongue driving in and out of the hood having to listen to 5 year hood children talk chit to me srs.
When I first moved there, no rats, now there are rats........ real rats not snitches.
-
[QUOTE=sy2502;1639554813]It's not at all fair actually, as studies have shown
[url]https://padailypost.com/2021/01/18/stanford-study-lockdowns-have-no-clear-benefit/[/url]
We had an example here in the US where states with more relaxed covid measures faired the same as those with the most stringent measures, if not better.[/QUOTE]
Sy2502,
Do you think it's strange how everyone who thinks there was no reduction in transmission and mortality from the lockdowns ever actually reads the articles and studies they're accepting as proof?
[url]https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/eci.13484[/url]
It is very true that when evaluated the way they set up their models, they couldn't find "strong" evidence of a statistically significant reduction in transmission rates beyond what their models attributed to the less restrictive measures in other countries. I like what they tried to do in it, and would suggest you actually read it to see what their assumptions were and how they set up the analysis.
After you read it, whether or not you choose to accept it as evidence the lockdowns didn't help or did more harm than good will be up to you. I'm not going to comment much unless you have specific questions about it. I'm just happy you brought something to the discussion that's actually relevant, and not completely kooky or unrelated. So thank you.
-
[QUOTE=mgftp;1639544963]What exactly was my nonsense? I believe my original point you replied to is that shutdowns are what prevented the navy med shipped from being needed.
You acted as if it was some conspiracy theory that they weren't.
Doni really need to go back and quote what you said? That is how far "conversation" with you has devolved?[/QUOTE]
Yes, I think you do..please, show me & everyone EXACTLY what I posted.
I’m gunna luv this
-
[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1639545063]"The Sturgis rally certainly could have led to a surge in Covid-19 coronaviruses cases. But how much of a surge is still unclear."
A quick Google search shows that AFTER Sturgis........ the cases jumped, not before.
This search took 1 sec. :)[/QUOTE]
Google.
I don’t think anything more needs to be said.
-
[QUOTE=JustTheDad;1639565763]Sy2502,
Do you think it's strange how everyone who thinks there was no reduction in transmission and mortality from the lockdowns ever actually reads the articles and studies they're accepting as proof?
[url]https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/eci.13484[/url]
It is very true that when evaluated the way they set up their models, they couldn't find "strong" evidence of a statistically significant reduction in transmission rates beyond what their models attributed to the less restrictive measures in other countries. I like what they tried to do in it, and would suggest you actually read it to see what their assumptions were and how they set up the analysis.
After you read it, whether or not you choose to accept it as evidence the lockdowns didn't help or did more harm than good will be up to you. I'm not going to comment much unless you have specific questions about it. I'm just happy you brought something to the discussion that's actually relevant, and not completely kooky or unrelated. So thank you.[/QUOTE]
Again, lockdowns did not prove to save lives...you still have not proved anything. The laundry list I gave you should have given you some indication of that..we can go through it point by point if you like. Your call.
Been awhile since I checked on some of these, I found the following earlier this year...
So here we have two counties, Collier (FL) &Imperial (CA) one with an early mandate when cases & deaths were very low, threatening their citizens with huge fines & literally jail time
The other county (Collier) has people openly not complying. That county is older, and 5x the density. And their results are better.
You might say, well Collier might have a younger population, that’s a big influence on outcomes, right?
Oh wait, turns out Collier’s median age is 50.8(!!!) And Imperial’s is 32.4. Collier’s median age is 57% higher than Imperial
And yet Imperial has done so, so much worse
Now, you may be saying, well I assume Imperial is bigger and more dense, because that’s ALWAYS why numbers are worse, right?
Nope. Collier is 187 per square mile, Imperial is 34.
Collier is more than 5x the density of Imperial County. So that doesn’t work.
Last I checked California and New York are still doing worse than Florida
NY’s actually doing the worst of the three, so I’m wondering if we’ll see any of Fauci’s friends in the media ask him to update his “New York had the best response” answer.
Because people still somehow believe the holidays had anything to do with increased numbers throughout the fall, California’s hospitalizations turned up on 10/25, over a month before Thanksgiving. They came down two weeks after Christmas.
The holidays had nothing to do with it.
Repeatedly, states like NY and CA have been praised by experts for "doing it right" with Covid policy, while vilifying Florida for their approach. Only one of these states' hospitalizations have been well below the US average for the last 3 months.
Can you guess which one?
Cases in the Midwest decreased 50% between Thanksgiving and Christmas. As of 1/18 cases are down 64% from their peak in mid-Nov. Some of the largest decreases are in the states that have been the least restrictive (SD, IA, NE). Wonder why they don't talk about the Midwest anymore
Iowa and New Mexico have similar population sizes, but Iowa's population density is much higher overall. So how was Iowa able to get COVID "under control" several days before New Mexico with significantly fewer restrictions?
Iowa current COVID deaths per million: 1,288
New Mexico current COVID deaths per million: 1,282
How can Iowa and New Mexico's current death rates be nearly identical? How are Iowa's number of COVID patients falling at a much faster rate despite not doing nearly as much as NM?
New Mexico closed indoor dining this summer, instructed its residents to stay home except when absolutely necessary in September, and had a full lockdown in mid-November. Iowa, with a similar population size and much higher population density, did none of these things.
-
You know your hood is going to hell when you see a baby in diapers in the street with French braids acting thug..........
Dead fuking srs, wish I could snap a shot of this, biggest baby a even seen, who knows what he’s packing in that diaper......
-
[QUOTE=OldFartTom;1639565123]I didn't invent Bulgarian Deadlifts, but I will lay claim to stiff legged squats, I need to monetize it though. I'll get a website called nose over toes guy and hope people confuse me with that other guy, paywall it as a subscription program plus rent a lot of advert clicks "Do this one weird exercise every day and PTs will hate you". I think I'll buy one of these [url]https://revologycars.com/car/1968-mustang-22-fastback-r-spec/[/url] with the money[/QUOTE]
LOL. Don't quit your day job. :)
-
[QUOTE=JustTheDad;1639565763]Sy2502,
Do you think it's strange how everyone who thinks there was no reduction in transmission and mortality from the lockdowns ever actually reads the articles and studies they're accepting as proof?
[url]https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/eci.13484[/url]
It is very true that when evaluated the way they set up their models, they couldn't find "strong" evidence of a statistically significant reduction in transmission rates beyond what their models attributed to the less restrictive measures in other countries. I like what they tried to do in it, and would suggest you actually read it to see what their assumptions were and how they set up the analysis.
After you read it, whether or not you choose to accept it as evidence the lockdowns didn't help or did more harm than good will be up to you. I'm not going to comment much unless you have specific questions about it. I'm just happy you brought something to the discussion that's actually relevant, and not completely kooky or unrelated. So thank you.[/QUOTE]
I really don’t care if they even did work, I’m 100 set against the government decision to choose who closes and who don’t.
All we should hear from government is the facts and if the hospitals get overwhelmed they need to say that, if the public with eithier take it serious or not.
What had been allowed from this will hurt everyone more than one way, now the government knows they can dictate us, sad stuff, kinda glad I have no offspring, I feel for them, the last time saw this much damage from government was Nam.
-
[QUOTE=Paul Kreul;1639566223]Yes, I think you do..please, show me & everyone EXACTLY what I posted.
I’m gunna luv this[/QUOTE]
Just like i don't invest much of my life debating flat earthers I choose to not invest much time in this, especially since the search function on these forums suck. If you wanna take the time point me to where you said it please do, I don't even remember what thread it was.
Here is one of your gems though:
[QUOTE=Paul Kreul;1634724413]The vaccine being used today is not an actual vaccine by conventional definition, it is radically brand new experimental mRNA encoding and transcription programming, so the obvious reality is, it has not been tested long enough to understand safety or efficacy -- Plain and simple[/QUOTE]
-
[QUOTE=mgftp;1639574233]Just like i don't invest much of my life debating flat earthers I choose to not invest much time in this[/QUOTE]
Holy shyt! What do you consider "much of your life"? From what I can tell you cannot shut up about it.
[QUOTE=Paul Kreul;1639566223]Yes, I think you do..please, show me & everyone EXACTLY what I posted.
I’m gunna luv this[/QUOTE]
Yea, because EVERYONE cares so much about your little pissing matches that we are just dying to hear more.
-
Had my 2nd Pfizer shot today. So far no signs of zombification, spontaneous transmission of wireless signals or being part of the transhuman genetically modified elite but I'll keep you posted.
The wife and I may have had it last year despite being pretty cautious. The county we live in is in the hot zone for Oregon and there were EMS workers in hazmat suits showing up to take away folks from the long term care home across the street on a regular basis. (Mostly one way trips from what we can tell) We both had about a week and a half where we were just exhausted and she's had some odd symptoms that seem to fit the description for long Covid, some of which improved after getting her 2nd Moderna shot.
-
[QUOTE=eomrat;1639574643]Holy shyt! What do you consider "much of your life"? From what I can tell you cannot shut up about it.
Yea, because EVERYONE cares so much about your little pissing matches that we are just dying to hear more.[/QUOTE]
I misc for fun (mostly to take a break and procrastinate real work). Scrolling through all of Paul's posts just to prove a point isn't fun or quite frankly worth it to me. I've pointed out his comment about patients with anitbodies in clinical trials 2 - 3 times now, mostly to clarify and distinguish who is who here... far from can't shut up about it, but that's obviously an opinion of mine, and you are surely entitled to your own.
[QUOTE=blue9steel;1639575183]Had my 2nd Pfizer shot today. So far no signs of zombification, spontaneous transmission of wireless signals or being part of the transhuman genetically modified elite but I'll keep you posted.
The wife and I may have had it last year despite being pretty cautious. The county we live in is in the hot zone for Oregon and there were EMS workers in hazmat suits showing up to take away folks from the long term care home across the street on a regular basis. (Mostly one way trips from what we can tell) We both had about a week and a half where we were just exhausted and she's had some odd symptoms that seem to fit the description for long Covid, some of which improved after getting her 2nd Moderna shot.[/QUOTE]
Your DNA is changing, you are fawked.
-
[QUOTE=mgftp;1639575313]Your DNA is changing, you are fawked.[/QUOTE]
[youtube]N6j06wyVdO8[/youtube]
-
[QUOTE=blue9steel;1639575183]... or being part of the transhuman genetically modified elite but I'll keep you posted.
[/QUOTE]
As previously stated, I'm gonna be very jealous if you get Wolverine's healing factor. Hope you do though.
-
[QUOTE=mgftp;1639574233]Just like i don't invest much of my life debating flat earthers I choose to not invest much time in this, especially since the search function on these forums suck. If you wanna take the time point me to where you said it please do, I don't even remember what thread it was.
Here is one of your gems though:[/QUOTE]
Lol, if you are going to call someone out for saying something.please..back it up next time.
The comment you quoted is still true...not sure I understand the issue. Normal approval process is 3-5 years of animal trials, followed by 3-5 years of human trials.
