[QUOTE=mgftp;1645344983]Second largest HCO in my area just announced no exemptions. Unvaxxedcels heading to the unemployment line.[/QUOTE]
That’s what I like to hear.
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[QUOTE=mgftp;1645344983]Second largest HCO in my area just announced no exemptions. Unvaxxedcels heading to the unemployment line.[/QUOTE]
That’s what I like to hear.
[QUOTE=Reliance012;1645413953]That’s what I like to hear.[/QUOTE]
Yes, it seems like very good science to get rid of medical staff while cases are increasing if they don’t take an experimental vaccine that is demonstrating it is ineffective. I mean what could go wrong lol.
None of this will matter when they roll out the carbon passports. Like the head of the WHO said, there's no vaccine for carbon emissions.
[QUOTE=7Seconds;1645413723]EEOC has clarified that employers may mandate a vaccine for all employees who come into the physical location.
[url]https://www.eeoc.gov/newsroom/eeoc-issues-updated-covid-19-technical-assistance[/url]
You can be fired, and still not be eligible for unemployment.
And If I were to place a bet, I'd put my money on the state/employer agreeing that your refusing to take a job which your qualified for in this situation.[/QUOTE]
Preemployment requirement is understandable but this is completely expected from the government.
Mandatory abortions next?
[QUOTE=BK909;1645420483]Preemployment requirement is understandable but this is completely expected from the government.
Mandatory abortions next?[/QUOTE]
The government isn’t forcing you to get the vaccine. It is allowing private entities to decide on requiring it. State governments forcing businesses to not require them of their employees is authoritarian.
[QUOTE=mtpockets;1645257403]An Alabama doctor watched patients reject coronavirus vaccine; now he’s refusing to treat them[/QUOTE]
Imagine if police decided to not protect BLM protesters for the same reasoning.
The tears would be immense.
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[QUOTE=Plateauplower;1645344743]Yeah I have been reading about Novavax and that is the one I'll take if required by my work. Wish they'd hurry the fuk up with it though. Is it still looking like October availability? No mandates for me yet, and not sure if it will happen, but Novavax will be the ONLY "traditional" vaccine available in the US.[/QUOTE]Novavax. I will study into this.
In another post you outlined the changing efficacy rates for the shots already given. As you know, this is one of the numerous changes that are being discovered every few months, if you do the research. What other informational changes are to come about the shots and what they do for/to you? I don't know. I have only thoughts and then some speculation. We won't have a legitimate handle on these changes for another decade or so
If they force an intracountry shot(s) order for air travel, I may then be forced to get the shots. That makes me sick. That will make me not recognize my Country. WWJD??? (What Would Jefferson DO?) If the morbidity rates for this virus, and it's variants, rises enough (God forbid), I will make the personal choice to get the shots. I will accept that situation. Bad situation. Personal choice.
In this Country, I shouldn't have being ordered by the government, if I want to fly in this Country, hanging over my head.
[QUOTE=KeepItMoving;1645440493]Novavax. I will study into this.
In another post you outlined the changing efficacy rates for the shots already given. As you know, this is one of the numerous changes that are being discovered every few months, if you do the research. What other informational changes are to come about the shots and what they do for/to you? I don't know. I have only thoughts and then some speculation. We won't have a legitimate handle on these changes for another decade or so
If they force an intracountry shot(s) order for air travel, I may then be forced to get the shots. That makes me sick. That will make me not recognize my Country. WWJD??? (What Would Jefferson DO?) If the morbidity rates for this virus, and it's variants, rises enough (God forbid), I will make the personal choice to get the shots. I will accept that situation. Bad situation. Personal choice.
In this Country, I shouldn't have being ordered by the government, if I want to fly in this Country, hanging over my head.[/QUOTE]
I agree 100%. Should be a personal choice rather than a mandate. Personally think people who believe in mandates should be rounded up and deported to North Korea if they want to live in an authoritarian dictatorship. The fact that the CDC refuses to track breakthrough infections unless they die or need advanced care says a lot.
[url]https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/jesse-jackson-and-wife-hospitalized-with-covid-19/ar-AANAiq6?li=BBnb7Kz[/url]
Jesse Jackson and his wife hospitalized for covid. Both fully vaccinated.
Waiting to still see the claims come true that healthy people were falling dead walking down the street…
So much mis-information and ever changing and negating “confirmed information” I now have a truly different very skeptical mindset compared to pre-covid times
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[QUOTE=TryingBB;1645448263]Waiting to still see the claims come true that healthy people were falling dead walking down the street…
So much mis-information and ever changing and negating “confirmed information” I now have a truly different very skeptical mindset compared to pre-covid times[/QUOTE]
Well this guy wasn't walking down the street but he gone.
[url]https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/21/us/conservative-talk-show-host-phil-valentine-dies-covid-19/index.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Plateauplower;1645447983]I agree 100%. Should be a personal choice rather than a mandate. Personally think people who believe in mandates should be rounded up and deported to North Korea if they want to live in an authoritarian dictatorship. The fact that the CDC refuses to track breakthrough infections unless they die or need advanced care says a lot.
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Toss in to the roundup the people who want to dictate to private businesses what they can do.
As for tracking ya it's been a real clusterfuk. This person makes a good case as to the cause of that :
[url]https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/covid-19-surge-why-we-need-more-data-on-breakthrough-infections[/url]
[quote]But at this point, one of the biggest issues that we saw throughout the pandemic was the lack of data infrastructure and even systems that can collect this data and speak to each other so that we can have a kind of broad understanding of what's happening. If you look back at how states were tasked with collecting COVID-19 data, they all kind of had to fend for themselves. They all had different systems of reporting. They all had different dashboards with different formats. So we're dealing with once again between vaccine data and breakthrough data, very, very disparate systems of data collection and data reporting.[/quote]
So my ignorant mind thinks maybe we need an overall of our entire system of tracking, a national standard, and not leaving states to fend for themselves. Some states underreport, some overreport and for what? We ALL know for what and we ALL should hold them ALL accountable.
Damn Goat man has infected my mind :D
[QUOTE=Jtbny;1645473473]Toss in to the roundup the people who want to dictate to private businesses what they can do.
As for tracking ya it's been a real clusterfuk. This person makes a good case as to the cause of that :
[url]https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/covid-19-surge-why-we-need-more-data-on-breakthrough-infections[/url]
So my ignorant mind thinks maybe we need an overall of our entire system of tracking, a national standard, and not leaving states to fend for themselves. Some states underreport, some overreport and for what? We ALL know for what and we ALL should hold them ALL accountable.
Damn Goat man has infected my mind :D[/QUOTE]
Yep and there are already MANY diseases with mandatory reporting, these reporting systems have been in-place for decades, but somehow the CDC can’t add a disease and a protocol for reporting. I don’t believe the vaccine was made for nefarious purposes, just that it’s not without risk, the decision should be up to people. If Business want to have mask mandates or direct their staff to be vaccinated without being forced by the government, I’m fine with that too.
[QUOTE=Jtbny;1645473043]Well this guy wasn't walking down the street but he gone.
[url]https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/21/us/conservative-talk-show-host-phil-valentine-dies-covid-19/index.html[/url][/QUOTE]
He battled it for 1 month. That’s not what I’m talking about.
Im talking about claims that there were people in China or Italy or Spain or somewhere who were fine and healthy, no covid or flu symptoms and walking down the street and instantaneously died drop dead. From healthy Alive —-> dead within seconds.
I believe virus is real, also believe vaccine helps MOST and I’m vaxxed and still keep my mask on when I know I will be around people who will get within 6 feeet from me (except restaurants - still dining out several times a week)
[QUOTE=TryingBB;1645475213]He battled it for 1 month. That’s not what I’m talking about.
Im talking about claims that there were people in China or Italy or Spain or somewhere who were fine and healthy, no covid or flu symptoms and walking down the street and instantaneously died drop dead. From healthy Alive —-> dead within seconds.
I believe virus is real, also believe vaccine helps MOST and I’m vaxxed and still keep my mask on when I know I will be around people who will get within 6 feeet from me (except restaurants - still dining out several times a week)[/QUOTE]
No that was the Stephen King novel "The Stand".
[QUOTE=Reliance012;1645413953]That’s what I like to hear.[/QUOTE]
srs? man youre crazy
[QUOTE=Mark1T;1645364543][img]https://i.imgur.com/kWJqUGe.png[/img][/QUOTE]
was about to say thank god i dont live in a blue state, then i remembered i do
For anyone interested, this is a cool study. First of its kind that I’m aware of. Shows that vaccination induces acutely higher levels of antibodies than infection (we knew this) but that they wane more quickly than those generated by infection. Six months after infection, 10% had antibodies below seropositive threshold while six months after vaccination, it was 16%. Has not been peer reviewed.
[url]https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.19.21262111v1[/url]
Thanks!^^^
I guess we should rename this thread......Will you get Boosted? :)
So we looked last night for appointments for the 2 compromised folks in my family and all the major drugstores and supermarkets have walk ins or appointments available.
[img]https://i.imgur.com/jSA4mwZ.png[/img]
mt, you don’t know rules are meant to be broken?
I was driving right behind you - I got this don’t worry ;)
[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1645477073]Thanks!^^^
I guess we should rename this thread......Will you get Boosted? :)
So we looked last night for appointments for the 2 compromised folks in my family and all the major drugstores and supermarkets have walk ins or appointments available.[/QUOTE]
Trying to get rid of the anti-vaxxers? LoL
I was far from first in line for the jab, and I won't be first in line for the booster. Kinda like getting jabbed late and having some time to evaluate it honestly.
[QUOTE=mgftp;1645481363]Trying to get rid of the anti-vaxxers? LoL
I was far from first in line for the jab, and I won't be first in line for the booster. Kinda like getting jabbed late and having some time to evaluate it honestly.[/QUOTE]
I hear ya and 8 months seems to be the "expiration date" so i need to do some quick math, brb. :P
[QUOTE=TryingBB;1645481233]mt, you don’t know rules are meant to be broken?
I was driving right behind you - I got this don’t worry ;)[/QUOTE]
LMAO, hope you gets the crabs
[QUOTE=mtpockets;1645481583]LMAO, hope you gets the crabs[/QUOTE]
I hope you really meant I get the carbs. And those I do, with every meal! :D
Reps on recharge
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to mtpockets again.
[QUOTE=TryingBB;1645481233]mt, you don’t know rules are meant to be broken?
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Got me one within the rules :D
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[QUOTE=7Seconds;1645421293]The government isn’t forcing you to get the vaccine. It is allowing private entities to decide on requiring it. State governments forcing businesses to not require them of their employees is authoritarian.[/QUOTE]
Being forced to keep employment 1000%
We'll I had a good run, hopefully I man up and stop depending on other's to decide if I can support my family.
[QUOTE=mtpockets;1645499473][img]https://i.imgur.com/JlXziWM.jpg?1[/img][/QUOTE]Bunch of fuc#in pussies now. We never got sick. We played in mud, didn't have bottles of sterile water we had a hose.
[url]https://youtu.be/X29lF43mUlo[/url]