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[QUOTE=LWW;1635562913]My father thinks too many eggs are bad cause he thinks the guy on the news is correct.
Wat he doesn’t see is they will link eggs with the typical westerner who eats junk food, smokes, drinks, and eats processed fast food eggs etc because eggs are a staple in that diet.
Eggs alone are the greatest most healthiest food for many people. The Sparticous political guy is a speaking incorrectly about having eggs, he must of ate a McDonalds sammich.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Gabbar99;1635560563]Not this sh*t again. High cholesterol food do lead to heart disease and health problems. It's one of the best established connections in medical science. It's not as bad or as direct as it was spun to be at one point, but the high-fat-low-carb conspiracy kooks making money by claiming all science is a nefarious pro-vegan plot are just plain lying.
Science: dietary LDL cholesterol is bad for your heart
Kooks: OMG! An egg will kill you! Meat is the devil. It's all a big lie by the $100 billion dollar a year beef industry.
Opportunists: buy my book and have this low-cholesterol junk food
Science: it's not quite as bad as all that
Kooks: OMG! You lied to us! All credentialed and salaried scientists are corrupt idiots. Only trust info from non-scientists who make money by how many books and supplements they sell you.
Opportunists: Buy my book and buy this high-cholesterol junk food
I have no idea what dietary cholesterol has to do with the Covid vaccine.
(edit: actually, there are kooks claiming that high cholesterol will protect you from Covid, because cholesterol is the best and there's nothing it can't do)[/QUOTE]Made me laugh. :)
Repped.
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[QUOTE=-=FLEX=-;1635561723]It's a matter of trusting them.
They themselves said dietary cholesterol was bad for 40 years. They stopped saying that. Because it's not true.[/QUOTE]
How did they find out it wasn't true?
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[QUOTE=Gabbar99;1635560563]Not this sh*t again. High cholesterol food do lead to heart disease and health problems. It's one of the best established connections in medical science. It's not as bad or as direct as it was spun to be at one point, but the high-fat-low-carb conspiracy kooks making money by claiming all science is a nefarious pro-vegan plot are just plain lying.
Science: dietary LDL cholesterol is bad for your heart
Kooks: OMG! An egg will kill you! Meat is the devil. It's all a big lie by the $100 billion dollar a year beef industry.
Opportunists: buy my book and have this low-cholesterol junk food
Science: it's not quite as bad as all that
Kooks: OMG! You lied to us! All credentialed and salaried scientists are corrupt idiots. Only trust info from non-scientists who make money by how many books and supplements they sell you.
Opportunists: Buy my book and buy this high-cholesterol junk food
I have no idea what dietary cholesterol has to do with the Covid vaccine.
(edit: actually, there are kooks claiming that high cholesterol will protect you from Covid, because cholesterol is the best and there's nothing it can't do)[/QUOTE]
Comedy Gold. On spread.
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Ca's opening back up 50% tomorrow and 100% (if I'm not mistaken) mid june, so I'm not buying this crap that the vaccine isn't effective or worthwhile....
Never really been a germ freak and with all the other sh*t I've put into my body over the years in the name of recreation.......I find it kind of silly hearing people say they won't vaccinate for supposed health reasons :)
But that's just me.
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[QUOTE=Oceanside;1635586963]Ca's opening back up 50% tomorrow and 100% (if I'm not mistaken) mid june, so I'm not buying this crap that the vaccine isn't effective or worthwhile....
Never really been a germ freak and with all the other sh*t I've put into my body over the years in the name of recreation.......I find it kind of silly hearing people say they won't vaccinate for supposed health reasons :)
But that's just me.[/QUOTE]
Amen brotha!
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[QUOTE=LWW;1635560463]I demand the Senate strip and fork over Brando’s green skittles to me for reparations due to his incorrect incrimation of me and his lack of knowledge of the basics!!!!!!!!![/QUOTE]
Typical Lib BS, take from the rep rich and give to the rep poor because you are a downtrodden victim.
[QUOTE=-=FLEX=-;1635556713]Just remember that the FDA, that has approved these vaccines for emergency use only, told the American public for almost 40 years, that dietary cholesterol was harmful and could lead to heart disease and a bunch of other health problems with no facts to back that up.
Nearly 40 years of telling a flat out lie.
They finally stopped the bull**** about 6 years ago.
Prior to that the "science was settled" and if you thought eating eggs every day was perfectly fine you'd have been laughed at.
This BS spawned such things as egg-white omelets and "no yolk" egg noodles and prompted food manufacturers to put "NO CHOLESTEROL" in big bold letters on products like french fries that never would have any cholesterol in them anyway.
40 years of lies with no facts...
But I'm sure they're right about this.[/QUOTE]
I'm curious, do you think the 5 former US Presidents who received the vaccine actually got it or did they get a B12 shot or something to prop up the campaign to get vaxed?
I'm skeptical of a lot of gubnmn't stuff, but a scenario where an unsafe vaccine is forced upon the masses is a little too like a Stephen King novel for me.
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[QUOTE=Bando;1635594933]Typical Lib BS, take from the rep rich and give to the rep poor because you are a downtrodden victim.
I'm curious, do you think the 5 former US Presidents who received the vaccine actually got it or did they get a B12 shot or something to prop up the campaign to get vaxed?
[/QUOTE]
1st paragraph, wrong, I don’t care about your useless skittles, but I know skittles are your world around here.
2nd paragraph, possible, my gov. Got on tv during his shot and said it gave him an energy boast.
Did you get an energy boast?
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[QUOTE=LWW;1635598783]1st paragraph, wrong, I don’t care about your useless skittles, but I know skittles are your world around here.
2nd paragraph, possible, my gov. Got on tv during his shot and said it gave him an energy boast.
Did you get an energy boast?[/QUOTE]
So a "sentence" is a string of words in the English language that begins with a capital letter and ends with a period. <-This is a sentence, not a paragraph. <-so was that
A "paragraph" would be a collection of sentences grouped to convey a point, make an argument, explain something etc.
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[QUOTE=LWW;1635598783]1st paragraph, wrong, I don’t care about your useless skittles, but I know skittles are your world around here.
2nd paragraph, possible, my gov. Got on tv during his shot and said it gave him an energy boast.
Did you get an energy boast?[/QUOTE]
Yeah it's like giving free donuts. Here lil kid, take your medicine and you'll get a treat.
The closest Krispy Cream is five miles away :mad:
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[QUOTE=Bando;1635600363]So a "sentence" is a string of words in the English language that begins with a capital letter and ends with a period. <-This is a sentence, not a paragraph. <-so was that
A "paragraph" would be a collection of sentences grouped to convey a point, make an argument, explain something etc.[/QUOTE]
OK, you are right.
Now admit you are not right about DOMS, and answer the question. Did you get an energy boast from the shot?
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[QUOTE=LWW;1635601163]OK, you are right.
Now admit you are not right about DOMS, and answer the question. Did you get an energy boast from the shot?[/QUOTE]
Your governor was just joking about the energy boast.
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[QUOTE=Cass40;1635601963]Your governor was just joking about the energy boast.[/QUOTE]
So you didn't get an energy boast? How do you know, why would he joke about that? He said it with a straight face.
Where is Bando, he hiding?
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[QUOTE=LWW;1635602493]So you didn't get an energy boast? How do you know, why would he joke about that? He said it with a straight face.
Where is Bando, he hiding?[/QUOTE]
What does Bando have I don't?
And no I don't think I got anymore boastful than the usual narcissistic self that I am. Low energy boasting if you will..
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[QUOTE=Cass40;1635602653]What does Bando have I don't?
And no I don't think I got anymore boastful than the usual narcissistic self that I am. Low energy boasting if you will..[/QUOTE]
I dont consider you a narcissist, but more like a finnissist.
The cold weather there definitely had an influence on you'z all there, and some more than others. :)
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[QUOTE=LWW;1635601163]OK, you are right.
Now admit you are not right about DOMS, and answer the question. Did you get an energy boast from the shot?[/QUOTE]
You're starting to get boring and risking getting back on my ignore list.
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Another thing after the vaccine is my taste and smell is "off"
With taste, my wife likes to make new dishes but I asked to just have some of the same old same old, hard to explain but eating a perfectly broiled steak tonight was just kind of a chore. On Monday I stopped at our local pizza shop and they had a fresh sausage and pepperoni just out of the oven for slices. The owner was trained in Italy, they use Grande cheese, blah blah blah, anyway, just a 10/10 slice of pizza.
It was like I could have eaten dollar store Ramen and been as happy. I'm not sure if the edge is off of my appetite or what, but some of the pleasure in eating is missing.
For smell, I walked out today and all I could smell was pool chemicals, neighbors shocked their pool a week ago, not sure why I'm so sensitive to it a week later.
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[QUOTE=Bando;1635603283]You're starting to get boring and risking getting back on my ignore list.
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LOL, now you asked for it.......
At least I can squat a light weight, and rack that mofo on my own!
Hiding behind grammer, this is a BB site.
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[QUOTE=Oceanside;1635586963]Ca's opening back up 50% tomorrow and 100% (if I'm not mistaken) mid june, so I'm not buying this crap that the vaccine isn't effective or worthwhile....
Never really been a germ freak and with all the other sh*t I've put into my body over the years in the name of recreation.......I find it kind of silly hearing people say they won't vaccinate for supposed health reasons :)
But that's just me.[/QUOTE]
SARS-COV-2 will not/cannot be contained or eradicated. What is going on right now, is known in epidemiology as the pathogen endemic equilibrium phase, (viral stasis) and is perfectly normal. Virulence weakening and dilution is what always happens when mutations and naturally acquired herd immunity is occurring throughout the populations. Invariably mutation causes infection rate increase ( seasonality still being the biggest factor) and lethality rate decrease, henceforth it becomes ubiquitous and permanent. Vaccination at this stage is essentially pointless.
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[QUOTE=Paul Kreul;1635604053]SARS-COV-2 will not/cannot be contained or eradicated. What is going on right now, is known in epidemiology as the pathogen endemic equilibrium phase, (viral stasis) and is perfectly normal. Virulence weakening and dilution is what always happens when mutations and naturally acquired herd immunity is occurring throughout the populations. Invariably mutation causes infection rate increase ( seasonality still being the biggest factor) and lethality rate decrease, henceforth it becomes ubiquitous and permanent. Vaccination at this stage is essentially pointless.[/QUOTE]
OK, but if I get sick and die of Covid, then I'm coming back as a really annoying ghost to haunt your ass until your dying breath.
and if I just get really sick I'll neg you. :p
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[QUOTE=Bando;1635603283]
Another thing after the vaccine is my taste and smell is "off"
With taste, my wife likes to make new dishes but I asked to just have some of the same old same old, hard to explain but eating a perfectly broiled steak tonight was just kind of a chore. On Monday I stopped at our local pizza shop and they had a fresh sausage and pepperoni just out of the oven for slices. The owner was trained in Italy, they use Grande cheese, blah blah blah, anyway, just a 10/10 slice of pizza.
It was like I could have eaten dollar store Ramen and been as happy. I'm not sure if the edge is off of my appetite or what, but some of the pleasure in eating is missing.
For smell, I walked out today and all I could smell was pool chemicals, neighbors shocked their pool a week ago, not sure why I'm so sensitive to it a week later.[/QUOTE]
Basically, you didn't get your vax in time, you have Rona.
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[QUOTE=LWW;1635603993]LOL, now you asked for it.......
At least I can squat a light weight, and rack that mofo on my own!
Hiding behind grammer, this is a BB site.[/QUOTE]
It's "Grammar"
I'll tell you what, why don't you get Bodyhard to to lift you off in a State Powerlifting Tournament where your state record still stands.
Then come back and run your mouth, I'll wait.
[img]https://i.imgur.com/WaWn7jU.jpg[/img]
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[QUOTE=Bando;1635605333]It's "Grammar"
I'll tell you what, why don't you get Bodyhard to to lift you off in a State Powerlifting Tournament where your state record still stands.
Then come back and run your mouth, I'll wait.
[img]https://i.imgur.com/WaWn7jU.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
HA, I've got nice deep below parallel squat posted in the vid thread, I walked it out, and put it back on the rack without struggle. And I don't even use a rack for floor press, I hand that bitch off to myself.
BTW, it's easy to complete in a class by yo self:D
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[QUOTE=LWW;1635605853]it's easy to complete in a class by yo self:D[/QUOTE]
*compete*
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[QUOTE=Bando;1635594933]
I'm curious, do you think the 5 former US Presidents who received the vaccine actually got it or did they get a B12 shot or something to prop up the campaign to get vaxed?
I'm skeptical of a lot of gubnmn't stuff, but a scenario where an unsafe vaccine is forced upon the masses is a little too like a Stephen King novel for me.[/QUOTE]
The world is in turmoil, with the United States fractured as a result of a second civil war and a pandemic of the "St. Mary's Virus" ravaging Europe. The United Kingdom is ruled as a Nordic supremacist[8][9] and neo-fascist[10] police state by the Norsefire Party, helmed by all-powerful High Chancellor Adam Sutler. Political opponents, immigrants, Jews, Muslims, atheists, homosexuals, and other "undesirables" are imprisoned and executed.
On November 4, a vigilante in a Guy Fawkes mask, "V," rescues Evey Hammond, an employee of state-run British Television Network, from members of the "Fingermen" secret police. After the stroke of midnight, they watch his demolition of the Old Bailey, accompanied by fireworks and the "1812 Overture". Inspector Finch of Scotland Yard investigates V's activities. V hijacks a BTN broadcast to claim responsibility for the destruction, encouraging the people of Britain to rebel against their government and meet him on next year's Guy Fawkes Night outside the Houses of Parliament. The police attempt to capture V. Evey helps him escape but is knocked unconscious.
V takes Evey to his home, where she is told she must remain for one year. V kills Lewis Prothero, Norsefire's chief propagandist, and Anthony Lilliman, the Bishop of London. Evey offers to help but escapes to the home of her boss, talk show host Gordon Deitrich. In return for Evey trusting him, Gordon reveals subversive paintings, an antique Quran, and homoerotic photographs. V confronts Dr. Delia Surridge, who experimented on him and others at Larkhill concentration camp twenty years earlier; seeing her genuine remorse, he kills her painlessly.
After Gordon satirizes the government on his show, his home is raided, and Evey is captured. She is tortured for information about V, her only solace being a note written by Valerie Page, a prisoner tortured and killed for being a lesbian. Evey is to be executed unless she reveals V's location. When she says she would rather die, she is released, finding herself in V's home. V staged her imprisonment to free her from her fears. The note was indeed real, secretly passed from Valerie to V when he was imprisoned at Larkhill. Initially enraged, Evey realizes she has become stronger. She leaves him, promising to return before November 5.
Reading Surridge's journal, Finch learns V is the result of human experimentation and is targeting those who detained him. Finch searches for V's true identity, tracing him to a bioweapons program in Larkhill. Finch meets William Rookwood, who tells him about the program. Fourteen years earlier, Sutler, Secretary of Defence at the time, launched a secret project at Larkhill, which resulted in the creation of the St. Mary's virus. Creedy, the current leader of the Norsefire Party, suggested releasing the virus onto the UK. Targeting St. Mary's School, a tube station and a water treatment plant, the virus killed more than 100,000 people and was blamed on a terrorist organisation. Norsefire used the fear and chaos to elevate Sutler to the office of High Chancellor, win an overwhelming majority in Parliament, and profit off the cure for the virus. Although Finch later disbelieves the story after discovering Rookwood is V in disguise, his faith in the Norsefire government is shaken.
As November 5 nears, V distributes thousands of Guy Fawkes masks. Riots begin to break out as the United Kingdom slowly descends into anarchy. On the eve of November 5, Evey visits V, who shows her a train filled with ANFO explosives in the abandoned London Underground, set to destroy Parliament. He leaves it to Evey to decide whether to use it. V meets Creedy, with whom he made a deal to surrender in exchange for Sutler's execution. After Creedy executes Sutler, V kills Creedy and his men. Mortally wounded from the hail of gunfire during the battle, V staggers to the tunnel where Evey is waiting and finally admits he loves her before dying in her arms. Despite their earlier experiences, Evey has grown close to V and is visibly heartbroken by his death.
Finch finds Evey placing V's body aboard the train. Disillusioned by the Party's regime, Finch allows Evey to send the train. Thousands of citizens wearing Guy Fawkes masks march toward the Houses of Parliament. Without any orders, the military allows the crowd to pass. As Parliament is destroyed, Finch asks Evey for V's identity, to which she replies, "He was all of us."
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[QUOTE=Bando;1635603283]...
Another thing after the vaccine is my taste and smell is "off"
With taste, my wife likes to make new dishes but I asked to just have some of the same old same old, hard to explain but eating a perfectly broiled steak tonight was just kind of a chore. On Monday I stopped at our local pizza shop and they had a fresh sausage and pepperoni just out of the oven for slices. The owner was trained in Italy, they use Grande cheese, blah blah blah, anyway, just a 10/10 slice of pizza.
It was like I could have eaten dollar store Ramen and been as happy. I'm not sure if the edge is off of my appetite or what, but some of the pleasure in eating is missing.
For smell, I walked out today and all I could smell was pool chemicals, neighbors shocked their pool a week ago, not sure why I'm so sensitive to it a week later.[/QUOTE]
My girlfriend and I got the 1st Pfizer shot on Monday and we're experiencing the exact same thing.
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[QUOTE=supramax;1635621863]My girlfriend and I got the 1st Pfizer shot on Monday and we're experiencing the exact same thing.[/QUOTE]
I just got injected with ****tropin, Arginine HCL, Testosterone Enanthate and Vitamin B12 and Tyrosine (all in an effort to enhance my natural born masculinity) and I'm not experiencing anything you guys have said.
So...must just be you...
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[QUOTE=HannoCometh;1635622463]I just got injected with blah, blah, blah :) (all in an effort to enhance my natural born masculinity) and I'm not experiencing anything you guys have said.
So...must just be you...
:D[/QUOTE]
Clearly and it should be obvious that Bando and myself don't require that particular type of enhancement. :)
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Just a note to the 2 posters above me, I am not totally sure but if the products you mentioned aren't supposed to be discussed here, this can get you a ban and yes quoting the material is also ban able offence. I know first hand.
If I am wrong about the topic then so be it, I know nothing about it anyway and this just proves it. Just trying to get my good deed for the day out of the way early.
PS : this is a decent thread with great interaction and would hate to see it locked for any reason, especially one that could have been prevented.
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Well I recently learned I may soon be able to get Vaccinated at a clinic at one of the local pharmacies any day now. So I registered.
I discovered a short while later that its the AstraZeneca version that will offered. I have been reading a bit about this controversial vaccine and I am having my doubts. I have mild hypertension (under control) and a low WBC (for at least the last 12-15 years). It seems they are offering it under informed consent for those 55 and older. I am right on the line of where they are not recommending it. I am also concerned that they might pull the plug on it due to the risk, so If I get the first shot...will I be able to get the second? No one is sure you can mix the different vaccines. My health care provider is on holidays so I may not be able to consult with her till after the fact.
The alternative is wait till I can get one of the others, which is shaping up to be not be until June or so at the earliest, with no real guarantee that it will in fact be one of the others.
I dont understand why they are prioritizing vaccinating people who can work at home or who are no longer in the workforce...who can isolate at home. One of my sons who still lives at home with us (in the 4th year of his "gap year":)) works at a Starbucks, I work/supervise a crew of guys in maintenance/engineering in a plant. My wife is a hair stylist...she is a few years older than me. Other than teenagers screwing around we are at a much higher risk at contracting and spreading.
Frustrating.
3rd world country issues now I guess.
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I too have my doubts with Astra, too many blood clot stories which you do not recover from. Go with your gut, and wait it out.
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[QUOTE=-=FLEX=-;1635630563]Literally every performance enhancing compound is illegal in America, no matter how minimal the potential side effects, and yet the FDA wants the entire population injected with experimental "vaccines".
LOL.
Remember a few years ago that stimulant DMAA? One kid died and boom. Illegal.
I'm not saying I will [B][I]never[/I][/B] get 'vaccinated'.
But I'll wait...[/QUOTE]
Is Canada talking about the vaxx passport like so many other countries?
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I am not interested in increasing my risks for blood clots. I will get vaccinated, but not sure which one I want.
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[QUOTE=mtpockets;1635628443]Just a note to the 2 posters above me, I am not totally sure but if the products you mentioned aren't supposed to be discussed here, this can get you a ban and yes quoting the material is also ban able offence. I know first hand.
If I am wrong about the topic then so be it, I know nothing about it anyway and this just proves it. Just trying to get my good deed for the day out of the way early.
PS : this is a decent thread with great interaction and would hate to see it locked for any reason, especially one that could have been prevented.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the heads up. Not that I didn't do some nice travelling when I got banned for a year, but... :)
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[QUOTE=-=FLEX=-;1635630563]Literally every performance enhancing compound is illegal in America, no matter how minimal the potential side effects, and yet the FDA wants the entire population injected with experimental "vaccines".
LOL.
Remember a few years ago that stimulant DMAA? One kid died and boom. Illegal.
I'm not saying I will [B][I]never[/I][/B] get 'vaccinated'.
But I'll wait...[/QUOTE]
In Quebec, before the nurse sticks the needle in your arm, you get a third degree inquisition.
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I would never touch the AZ, sure it's just a few clots compared to the millions getting vaccinated. But I don't have good luck Gambling
An example, I bought a new truck F150, people warned me, I didn't listen to them or my gut. Within the 1st year all the paint fell off, was like it had cancer. within 4 years, I replaced the gas tank, fuel pump, starter, wiper motor, alternator, the thing may or may not go in the rain, you could shut it off and with the key in your pocket it would still be running, changed the complete wiring harness. Many other minor issues. I sold the fuking thing with just under 100,000 miles on it.
I vowed never again to go against my gut, and my gut tells me to stay away from AZ, I know you can't compare needles to vehicles, call me foolish, don't care, my gut says stay away from that fuker.
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[QUOTE=Paul Kreul;1635604053]SARS-COV-2 will not/cannot be contained or eradicated. What is going on right now, is known in epidemiology as the pathogen endemic equilibrium phase, (viral stasis) and is perfectly normal. Virulence weakening and dilution is what always happens when mutations and naturally acquired herd immunity is occurring throughout the populations. Invariably mutation causes infection rate increase ( seasonality still being the biggest factor) and lethality rate decrease, henceforth it becomes ubiquitous and permanent. Vaccination at this stage is essentially pointless.[/QUOTE]
I half agree with you (which is not a popular view). It seems an entirely plausible scenario that the end state is where it more like how seasonal flu is now, and life can calm down again. I think it's entirely implausible we can somehow eradicate it like smallpox.
Where I completely disagree with you is around the value of vaccination (especially for the most vulnerable). Left to just run it's own natural course, it'll take huge numbers of unnecessary deaths before we get anywhere near some ubiquitous and weakened scenario. Vaccination helps us achieve population familiarity with the virus without huge numbers of deaths. And let's not forget to consider the people who don't die but have ruined health!
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[QUOTE=mtpockets;1635633203]I would never touch the AZ, sure it's just a few clots compared to the millions getting vaccinated. But I don't have good luck Gambling
An example, I bought a new truck F150, people warned me, I didn't listen to them or my gut. Within the 1st year all the paint fell off, was like it had cancer. within 4 years, I replaced the gas tank, fuel pump, starter, wiper motor, alternator, the thing may or may not go in the rain, you could shut it off and with the key in your pocket it would still be running, changed the complete wiring harness. Many other minor issues. I sold the fuking thing with just under 100,000 miles on it.
I vowed never again to go against my gut, and my gut tells me to stay away from AZ, I know you can't compare needles to vehicles, call me foolish, don't care, my gut says stay away from that fuker.[/QUOTE]
My gut agrees with your gut.
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[QUOTE=-=FLEX=-;1635632413]Our Prime Minister has said he does not support a "Vaccination Passport" and it is quite literally the only thing he's ever said that didn't make me want to punch him in the face.[/QUOTE]
Good.
It seems that this is going to be a mixed bag depending on where in the world you want to travel. Cruise lines, airlines, certain countries....the list goes on.
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[QUOTE=Mark1T;1635633883]My gut agrees with your gut.[/QUOTE]
2 guts better than 1
[QUOTE=-=FLEX=-;1635634103]The chance of your house burning down is small. If someone wanted you to spray your house with some experimental flame-retardant chemical that would prevent it from burning down, that sounds like a great idea right? But what if there was a small chance that chemical might cause your house to collapse either immediately or at some point in the future? What then? The chances of this are relatively small but unknown. The chances of your house burning down are statistically measurable but also small.
Also you might need to have this experimental chemical sprayed on your house every year. That is not known yet.
Well, you owe it to your neighbors to spray your house because if your house burns down it could set the neighbor's house on fire too, and so on. The whole neighborhood could burn down because of YOU and you not willing to take a chance on spraying your house with this experimental flame-retardant chemical.
Would you do it?
I wouldn't.
Now go do your duty and stand in line for your covid shot. You owe it to your neighbors.[/QUOTE]
Excellent analogy, The doing it for your neighbor bull**** won't work on my ass, I am all about helping others, just not at my expense or risk.
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[QUOTE=-=FLEX=-;1635634103]The chance of your house burning down is small. If someone wanted you to spray your house with some experimental flame-retardant chemical that would prevent it from burning down, that sounds like a great idea right? But what if there was a small chance that chemical might cause your house to collapse either immediately or at some point in the future? What then? The chances of this are relatively small but unknown. The chances of your house burning down are statistically measurable but also small.
Also you might need to have this experimental chemical sprayed on your house every year. That is not known yet.
Well, you owe it to your neighbors to spray your house because if your house burns down it could set the neighbor's house on fire too, and so on. The whole neighborhood could burn down because of YOU and you not willing to take a chance on spraying your house with this experimental flame-retardant chemical.
Would you do it?
I wouldn't.
Now go do your duty and stand in line for your covid shot. You owe it to your neighbors.[/QUOTE]
But, if my neighbors were so concerned about my house burning down their house, wouldn't they get that chemical sprayed on their house, thereby protecting their house?
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[QUOTE=-=FLEX=-;1635636723]And there we have it. Let everyone make their own risk assessments do what suits them.[/QUOTE]
Bingo!
And, this coming from somebody that has been vaccinated. Not because of fear of getting the virus, but because I want to be confident around my elderly mother and in laws (who have also been vaccinated).
I'm also desperate to get back to normal.
I also fully support those that do not want to get vaccinated. More power to you.
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[QUOTE=litljay;1635635613]But, if my neighbors were so concerned about my house burning down their house, wouldn't they get that chemical sprayed on their house, thereby protecting their house?[/QUOTE]
Yes but what if in addition to the chemical on the house there was some kind of lawn fertilizer that could prevent moles from causing damage, if your neighbour was willing to apply that if (and only if) you applied the chemical to your house, would you still be willing to do that knowing one of their relatives was sick?
(Sorry flex, the chemical house thing seems way too complicated for my feeble brain ;) )
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[QUOTE=OldFartTom;1635645563]Yes but what if in addition to the chemical on the house there was some kind of lawn fertilizer that could prevent moles from causing damage, if your neighbour was willing to apply that if (and only if) you applied the chemical to your house, would you still be willing to do that knowing one of their relatives was sick?
(Sorry flex, the chemical house thing seems way too complicated for my feeble brain ;) )[/QUOTE]
So, are we dealing with 2 different things now? Moles and Fire?
Why would my neighbor worry about the moles in my lawn. They can treat their house for fire and lawn for moles.
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[QUOTE=Corbi;1635609563]The world is in turmoil, with the United States fractured as a result of a second civil war and a pandemic of the "St. Mary's Virus" ravaging Europe. The United Kingdom is ruled as a Nordic supremacist[8][9] and neo-fascist[10] police state by the Norsefire Party, helmed by all-powerful High Chancellor Adam Sutler. Political opponents, immigrants, Jews, Muslims, atheists, homosexuals, and other "undesirables" are imprisoned and executed.
On November 4, a vigilante in a Guy Fawkes mask, "V," rescues Evey Hammond, an employee of state-run British Television Network, from members of the "Fingermen" secret police. After the stroke of midnight, they watch his demolition of the Old Bailey, accompanied by fireworks and the "1812 Overture". Inspector Finch of Scotland Yard investigates V's activities. V hijacks a BTN broadcast to claim responsibility for the destruction, encouraging the people of Britain to rebel against their government and meet him on next year's Guy Fawkes Night outside the Houses of Parliament. The police attempt to capture V. Evey helps him escape but is knocked unconscious.
V takes Evey to his home, where she is told she must remain for one year. V kills Lewis Prothero, Norsefire's chief propagandist, and Anthony Lilliman, the Bishop of London. Evey offers to help but escapes to the home of her boss, talk show host Gordon Deitrich. In return for Evey trusting him, Gordon reveals subversive paintings, an antique Quran, and homoerotic photographs. V confronts Dr. Delia Surridge, who experimented on him and others at Larkhill concentration camp twenty years earlier; seeing her genuine remorse, he kills her painlessly.
After Gordon satirizes the government on his show, his home is raided, and Evey is captured. She is tortured for information about V, her only solace being a note written by Valerie Page, a prisoner tortured and killed for being a lesbian. Evey is to be executed unless she reveals V's location. When she says she would rather die, she is released, finding herself in V's home. V staged her imprisonment to free her from her fears. The note was indeed real, secretly passed from Valerie to V when he was imprisoned at Larkhill. Initially enraged, Evey realizes she has become stronger. She leaves him, promising to return before November 5.
Reading Surridge's journal, Finch learns V is the result of human experimentation and is targeting those who detained him. Finch searches for V's true identity, tracing him to a bioweapons program in Larkhill. Finch meets William Rookwood, who tells him about the program. Fourteen years earlier, Sutler, Secretary of Defence at the time, launched a secret project at Larkhill, which resulted in the creation of the St. Mary's virus. Creedy, the current leader of the Norsefire Party, suggested releasing the virus onto the UK. Targeting St. Mary's School, a tube station and a water treatment plant, the virus killed more than 100,000 people and was blamed on a terrorist organisation. Norsefire used the fear and chaos to elevate Sutler to the office of High Chancellor, win an overwhelming majority in Parliament, and profit off the cure for the virus. Although Finch later disbelieves the story after discovering Rookwood is V in disguise, his faith in the Norsefire government is shaken.
As November 5 nears, V distributes thousands of Guy Fawkes masks. Riots begin to break out as the United Kingdom slowly descends into anarchy. On the eve of November 5, Evey visits V, who shows her a train filled with ANFO explosives in the abandoned London Underground, set to destroy Parliament. He leaves it to Evey to decide whether to use it. V meets Creedy, with whom he made a deal to surrender in exchange for Sutler's execution. After Creedy executes Sutler, V kills Creedy and his men. Mortally wounded from the hail of gunfire during the battle, V staggers to the tunnel where Evey is waiting and finally admits he loves her before dying in her arms. Despite their earlier experiences, Evey has grown close to V and is visibly heartbroken by his death.
Finch finds Evey placing V's body aboard the train. Disillusioned by the Party's regime, Finch allows Evey to send the train. Thousands of citizens wearing Guy Fawkes masks march toward the Houses of Parliament. Without any orders, the military allows the crowd to pass. As Parliament is destroyed, Finch asks Evey for V's identity, to which she replies, "He was all of us."[/QUOTE]
You wanna pass that bong my way Pal?
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[QUOTE=Bando;1635679443]You wanna pass that bong my way Pal?[/QUOTE]
V for Vendetta, it's crazy how many novels and movies from our past have actually come true in certain ways. Watch Enemy of the State or the Conspiracy Theory or a book like Orwells 1984, those all seemed crazy and crackpotish but that $hit has in many cases become fact.
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[QUOTE=Corbi;1635687483]V for Vendetta, it's crazy how many novels and movies from our past have actually come true in certain ways. Watch Enemy of the State or the Conspiracy Theory or a book like Orwells 1984, those all seemed crazy and crackpotish but that $hit has in many cases become fact.[/QUOTE]
Terminators are real now, just that the war against the machine hasn't started, yet.
One day this next sick generation will make a vax to create walking dead.
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[QUOTE=Corbi;1635687483]V for Vendetta, it's crazy how many novels and movies from our past have actually come true in certain ways. Watch Enemy of the State or the Conspiracy Theory or a book like Orwells 1984, those all seemed crazy and crackpotish but that $hit has in many cases become fact.[/QUOTE]
You could take it a step further with The Matrix.
There are less and less people that can fix a furnace or replace a fuse or change an oil filter without whipping out their phone for a help video.
When skynet goes down, only the old guys with flip phones will be keeping us going, similar to what happens in 3rd word countries.
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[QUOTE=Bando;1635691393]You could take it a step further with The Matrix.
There are less and less people that can fix a furnace or replace a fuse or change an oil filter without whipping out their phone for a help video.
When skynet goes down, only the old guys with flip phones will be keeping us going, similar to what happens in 3rd word countries.[/QUOTE]
Never seen any of the Matrix movies but I agree there are less people who know how to work with their hands. I get people at work who seriously do not know how to switch the rotation / direction with a ratchet. They gaze at the tool as if it's some form of Alien device.
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[QUOTE=Corbi;1635693483]Never seen any of the Matrix movies but I agree there are less people who know how to work with their hands. I get people at work who seriously do not know how to switch the rotation / direction with a ratchet. They gaze at the tool as if it's some form of Alien device.[/QUOTE]
I almost got written up at one job for not knowing how to check the calibration on my torque wrench. It was for wheels and I used it exactly zero times, I tightened lugnuts back then just like I tighten them now, good fukin luck to the next guy trying to get these off.
