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[QUOTE=mtpockets;1665242533][img]https://i.imgur.com/B3ZaQWH.png[/img][/QUOTE]My 108 yo vaccinated grandmother just won her first battle with COVID *knocks on wood*. Unfortunately, mi 81 yo vaccinated mother who cares for her just tested positive today, but is doing good this far. Vaccines ftw.
[QUOTE=Jbizzlechizzle;1665259493]My 108 yo vaccinated grandmother just won her first battle with COVID *knocks on wood*. Unfortunately, mi 81 yo vaccinated mother who cares for her just tested positive today, but is doing good this far. Vaccines ftw.[/QUOTE]
good to hear ..
Hope mom makes a full recovery with no lasting effects :)
[QUOTE=Jbizzlechizzle;1665259493]My 108 yo vaccinated grandmother just won her first battle with COVID *knocks on wood*. Unfortunately, mi 81 yo vaccinated mother who cares for her just tested positive today, but is doing good this far. Vaccines ftw.[/QUOTE]
108 holy mackerel Jb, that is awesome, I am glad she won the battle with covid and I hope your mom has a speedy recovery as well. I think there is a lot to be said for vaccinations as well.
[url]https://twitter.com/CortesSteve/status/1553462380251811841[/url]
I've been reading that doctors are setting up protocols to treat 'vaccinated' people who have developed 'vaccine' related health issues. Also, insurance companies are reporting a spike in claims for sudden death of young people...who were 'vaccinated.'
The fact is that this is an experimental drug.
[QUOTE=KeepItMoving;1665715763]I've been reading that doctors are setting up protocols to treat 'vaccinated' people who have developed 'vaccine' related health issues. Also, insurance companies are reporting a spike in claims for sudden death of young people...who were 'vaccinated.'
The fact is that this is an experimental drug.[/QUOTE]There's a lot of stuff that can be "read" but is it coming from a reliable source and backed up by actual data?
Anyone listen to JRE #1864 w/ Alex Berenson? He ended up successfully suing Twitter cuz they banned him for speaking the truth on the vaccines. Very knowledgeable about the big picture after all the shenanigans that went down between the media, social media, the govt involvement with Twitter, FDA/pharma corruption etc. Conspiracy theories about govt. involvement with social media can be put to rest since it was done through discovery via the judge's ruling.
Was in proximity with a guy who tested positive. I'm double vaxed and boosted.
Gotta snotty nose yesterday, coughing and sneezing today, thought oh boy here we go. Tested myself tonight, negative and felt better after the test.
Now, put on your tinfoil hats and open your mind for a minute.
WTF is on those swabs? The instructions are really clear, like disturbingly clear that you put it back in the packaging and discard it. As soon as I did the required 15 seconds in each nostril I felt fine. :eek:
How is a Vax thread still running? it's like the undead ;)
[QUOTE=Bando;1667168993]Was in proximity with a guy who tested positive. I'm double vaxed and boosted.
Gotta snotty nose yesterday, coughing and sneezing today, thought oh boy here we go. Tested myself tonight, negative and felt better after the test.
Now, put on your tinfoil hats and open your mind for a minute.
WTF is on those swabs? The instructions are really clear, like disturbingly clear that you put it back in the packaging and discard it. As soon as I did the required 15 seconds in each nostril I felt fine. :eek:[/QUOTE]
There was a doc. on JRE. Maybe McCollum? Or right after him. He said nasal rinses and another technique was very effective at stopping it in it's tracks as soon as symptoms arrive, for what it's worth.
[QUOTE=OldFartTom;1667188273]How is a Vax thread still running? it's like the undead ;)[/QUOTE]
I'm assuming there will be another spike. Pretty important to review how the govt, media etc handled this for future plandemics.
New vaccines are nearly available. Although yet to be shown, I suspect they’ll reduce the risk of infection. Similar to what we saw with the current vaccines until Omicron.
[QUOTE=_zman;1667190343]There was a doc. on JRE. Maybe McCollum? Or right after him. He said nasal rinses and another technique was very effective at stopping it in it's tracks as soon as symptoms arrive, for what it's worth.
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That should be common sense IMO. You got a viral agent going nuts in your sinus cavities? Flush that fukker out with warm salt water, you won't get it all but could clear enough so that your immune system easily handles the rest.
There was another Doc early on that recommended lots of hot beverages at the first onset of symptoms. His reasoning was that it would flush the virus into your stomach where it dies rather than letting it trickle into your lungs. He was widely discredited as a quack, even on here when I brought it up. I feel like if you try it and it doesn't work, you're out like 99 cents for tea bags and stayed hydrated.
My Son says the worst thing is he's exhausted all the time, but symptoms getting better every day.
[QUOTE=Bando;1667219643]
There was another Doc early on that recommended lots of hot beverages at the first onset of symptoms. His reasoning was that it would flush the virus into your stomach where it dies rather than letting it trickle into your lungs. [/QUOTE]
Maybe that's why raw chaga works so well? I know it has a lot of immunity properties. I start making a bunch of tea as soon as I get any cold symptoms and do a flush too. Can't remember the last time I've had one.
[QUOTE=_zman;1667357643]Maybe that's why raw chaga works so well? I know it has a lot of immunity properties. I start making a bunch of tea as soon as I get any cold symptoms and do a flush too. Can't remember the last time I've had one.[/QUOTE]
Excellent point _zman
Chaga is underrated, I have been drinking and making Chaga tea since I was a kid. The natives swear by it as do I. I harvest a bunch every winter although I am looking for it all year, I only harvest in the winter, it's when it's at its densest and easiest to see without any foliage and much easier to reach with 4 feet of snow on the ground. It doesn't grow on every tree sometimes you have to travel many miles before spotting some. Makes for a great day of snowshoeing or x country skiing day or two though.
For anyone asking WTF is Chaga? Here is a pic on a tree and picked. (not my pic though)
[img]https://i.imgur.com/Cujl6uE.jpg[/img]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/scn6ytc.jpg[/img]
It's basically a mushroom that grows only on some tree species, I have only seen it on Birch and I would only pick it from birch because that's how I was taught. It has many health benefits, I won't list them because I don't wanna play doctor. (Ask Google)
Native people have been using it forever, just don't go out and pick any black knob off a tree though, do your research and although the black stuff looks nasty, it's actually where the highest concentration of good stuff is. so use it all.
Just came in to laugh at the vaxcels in this thread.
Imagine thinking it was smart to take an untested experimental shot for a virus slightly stronger than the common cold.
Imagine thinking it was a good idea to try and force people to take an ineffective shot or lose their livelihoods.
Dumb branch Covidian fools
Oh and for good measure - I was right and you were wrong, wrong, wrong
Wrong
[QUOTE=mtpockets;1667359063]Excellent point _zman
Chaga is underrated, I have been drinking and making Chaga tea since I was a kid. The natives swear by it as do I. I harvest a bunch every winter although I am looking for it all year, I only harvest in the winter, it's when it's at its densest and easiest to see without any foliage and much easier to reach with 4 feet of snow on the ground. It doesn't grow on every tree sometimes you have to travel many miles before spotting some. Makes for a great day of snowshoeing or x country skiing day or two though.
It's basically a mushroom that grows only on some tree species, I have only seen it on Birch and I would only pick it from birch because that's how I was taught. It has many health benefits, I won't list them because I don't wanna play doctor. (Ask Google)
Native people have been using it forever, just don't go out and pick any black knob off a tree though, do your research and although the black stuff looks nasty, it's actually where the highest concentration of good stuff is. so use it all.[/QUOTE]
That's awesome you can find it in the wild. Chit's expensive, but well worth the cost, in my experience.
Just the Dad can you please explain if this is correct or not, i am curious?
"This is how I know you are a fukin moron. I know you think you are smart, but you are nothing but a fukin shill..interleukins are the cause of why we are seeing a Cytokine Storm in vaxxcells. Those interleukins or messenger proteins (IL-12's) never shut off. Interleukins are just a sub-set of cellular messenger molecules called cytokines that trigger an immune response like inflammation. every single animal study in the past when we looked at Coronavirus Vaccines, would always cause a cytokine storm when we injected the coronavirus into the animal. Total immune system shut down, organ failure, th2 immunopathology. We have seen this in the past with the RSV vaccine back in the 90's or the Dengue vaccine..ADE would set in, and it was system overload. Are you catching on now? It would look like the vaccine is working, as it did initially with Covid, but then when people came into contact with RSV the vaccine would act as a catalyst making the illness far more deadly. Same with the Dengue vaccine...it was distributed, moths later when people came into contact with the Dengue again, it made it deadly.., over 600 people died for what should have been a fever.
I swear, take a guy like yourself that took a sub-par community college class, release them on the internet, and this is the result. You are a fukin joke.
Now you want to blame all cause mortality on depression and lock-downs? LOOOOOL dude, delete your account, urine idiot."
I started eating stuff growing on trees and have had diarrhea for 4 days now.
[QUOTE=mgftp;1667749773]I started eating stuff growing on trees and have had diarrhea for 4 days now.[/QUOTE]
WHAT??? Trees?
**** man, that stuff could be "fruit"... leave it alone. It contains way too many sugars and simple carbs.
This is a bodybuilding site. You have no business eating stuff that isn't measured in scoops and made up in a shaker, did you buy it from this website? NO!
No wonder it was a shock to your insides and gave you diarrhea, stay away from trees or all your gains will fall off
[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1667748873]Just the Dad can you please explain if this is correct or not, i am curious?
"This is how I know you are a fukin moron. I know you think you are smart, but you are nothing but a fukin shill..interleukins are the cause of why we are seeing a Cytokine Storm in vaxxcells. Those interleukins or messenger proteins (IL-12's) never shut off. Interleukins are just a sub-set of cellular messenger molecules called cytokines that trigger an immune response like inflammation. every single animal study in the past when we looked at Coronavirus Vaccines, would always cause a cytokine storm when we injected the coronavirus into the animal. Total immune system shut down, organ failure, th2 immunopathology. We have seen this in the past with the RSV vaccine back in the 90's or the Dengue vaccine..ADE would set in, and it was system overload. Are you catching on now? It would look like the vaccine is working, as it did initially with Covid, but then when people came into contact with RSV the vaccine would act as a catalyst making the illness far more deadly. Same with the Dengue vaccine...it was distributed, moths later when people came into contact with the Dengue again, it made it deadly.., over 600 people died for what should have been a fever.
I swear, take a guy like yourself that took a sub-par community college class, release them on the internet, and this is the result. You are a fukin joke.
Now you want to blame all cause mortality on depression and lock-downs? LOOOOOL dude, delete your account, urine idiot."[/QUOTE]
Just the Dad can jump in, but that is an absolutely mindless post written by someone who has done nothing but sew together skeptic buzzwords and talking points into an incoherent mess of a paragraph.
The vaccines do not cause ADE. The vaccines do not cause cytokine storms. (It reads to me like the poster doesn’t even understand these are separate although interconnected concepts, but that’s another point).
Th2 skewed responses are not observed with any of the sarscov2 vaccines that came to market. He’s talking about several previous coronavirus vaccines that did not make it through animal trials, because the trials did their job. He mentions IL12, but probably doesn’t understand it’s relevance so he just casually tosses the name out there. IL12’s absence would draw concern because without it, a th2 type response comes to dominate which is potentially deleterious (cell mediated responses are curtailed). Potential issues like these are why animal testing is important. Mice and macaques provide a great immune model and we can see if a vaccine elicits these types of red flags. The poster is ironically making an argument for the safety of the vaccines, because what he’s referring to are examples where animal trials have prevented harmful vaccines from making it to humans.
In just the early clinical trials th1 immune responses were exceptionally well characterized. Now, at this point, we have the largest medical data set in history. ADE (and CS) unequivocally do not occur in vaccinated subjects at any biological or statistically significantly degree. They are acute affects that would have manifested early on. In vitro, in vivo, epidemiological, ADE and CS are simply not present. The exact opposite is true. Vaccinated subjects have significantly reduced risks of severe C19 outcomes.
I won’t even bother with his other bull****.
Sept 14 (Reuters) - The world has never been in a better position to end the COVID-19 pandemic, the head of the World Health Organization said on Wednesday, his most optimistic outlook yet on the years-long health crisis which has killed over six million people.
"We are not there yet. But the end is in sight," WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus told reporters at a virtual press conference.
That was the most upbeat assessment from the UN agency since it declared an international emergency in January 2020 and started describing COVID-19 as a pandemic three months
[url]https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/who-chief-says-end-sight-covid-19-pandemic-2022-09-14/?taid=63220c1a9052e70001233ab7&utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter[/url]
^^^^ Rest of the article in the link above if anyone gives a sh!t
[QUOTE=Reliance012;1667760183]Just the Dad can jump in, but that is an absolutely mindless post written by someone who has done nothing but sew together skeptic buzzwords and talking points into an incoherent mess of a paragraph.
The vaccines do not cause ADE. The vaccines do not cause cytokine storms. (It reads to me like the poster doesn’t even understand these are separate although interconnected concepts, but that’s another point).
Th2 skewed responses are not observed with any of the sarscov2 vaccines that came to market. He’s talking about several previous coronavirus vaccines that did not make it through animal trials, because the trials did their job. He mentions IL12, but probably doesn’t understand it’s relevance so he just casually tosses the name out there. IL12’s absence would draw concern because without it, a th2 type response comes to dominate which is potentially deleterious (cell mediated responses are curtailed). Potential issues like these are why animal testing is important. Mice and macaques provide a great immune model and we can see if a vaccine elicits these types of red flags. The poster is ironically making an argument for the safety of the vaccines, because what he’s referring to are examples where animal trials have prevented harmful vaccines from making it to humans.
In just the early clinical trials th1 immune responses were exceptionally well characterized. Now, at this point, we have the largest medical data set in history. ADE (and CS) unequivocally do not occur in vaccinated subjects at any biological or statistically significantly degree. They are acute affects that would have manifested early on. In vitro, in vivo, epidemiological, ADE and CS are simply not present. The exact opposite is true. Vaccinated subjects have significantly reduced risks of severe C19 outcomes.
I won’t even bother with his other bull****.[/QUOTE]
thanks for the detailed explanation, very helpful
My family keeps ending up in the hospital but they won't let you in without being vaccinated and boosted. I got really sick from the second shot and booster--high fever and chills for days--so I don't want to take another booster. That may result in my family being unable to have someone visit or be an advocate.
This sucks.
[QUOTE=DustinTheHuss;1667895263]My family keeps ending up in the hospital but they won't let you in without being vaccinated and boosted. I got really sick from the second shot and booster--high fever and chills for days--so I don't want to take another booster. That may result in my family being unable to have someone visit or be an advocate.
This sucks.[/QUOTE]
What if you got Covid? Are you not convinced that the booster would help with symptoms that you are clearly not a fan of?
fell ill with omicron, except for a sore throat, there are no other symptoms
[QUOTE=merlen90;1667898633]fell ill with omicron, except for a sore throat, there are no other symptoms[/QUOTE]
I am glad that YOU PERSONALLY had such a mild reaction.
The guys from high school got together Tuesday night for dinner and one friend told us his wife's mom just died from covid + her other conditions.
He said it tipped the scales.
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[QUOTE=KeepItMoving;1668776773][url]https://twitter.com/PowerOurPeople_/status/1575565134118154240?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1575565134118154240%7Ctwgr%5E39f366eb8fef044649b25414baf82306aa39a7c5%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2F100percentfedup.com%2Fcanadian-actress-develops-facial-paralysis-from-covid-vaccine-posts-shocking-video-revealing-her-condition-video%2F[/url][/QUOTE]
So brave.
God bless her as she continues to experiment on herself. What doesn't kill you makes you need a booster or makes you stronger, something like that.
[QUOTE=KeepItMoving;1668776773][url]https://twitter.com/PowerOurPeople_/status/1575565134118154240?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1575565134118154240%7Ctwgr%5E39f366eb8fef044649b25414baf82306aa39a7c5%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2F100percentfedup.com%2Fcanadian-actress-develops-facial-paralysis-from-covid-vaccine-posts-shocking-video-revealing-her-condition-video%2F[/url][/QUOTE]
I'll never understand how people can be this brainwashed.
Here is someone that has the side effects most people were afraid of and they still think in the end this was a good decision. Propaganda may have never been stronger.