Will you get vaccinated?

[QUOTE=Cass40;1636645233]Oh I see. When you said lockdown you didn't really mean anyone was in lockdown. And yeah now that makes sense that if you live in some nasty apartment where other people's chit droplets are infecting you, then maybe it would be better to go outside. I didn't consider crowded apartments and people stuck there together. I can totally see the point of that not being good.[/QUOTE]

If you are out in the middle of Montana & never have to see anyone solely living off your land..sure you aren’t getting Covid..but the majority of the world is not living like that.

A buddy of mine a logger and has his own saw mill, single fellow. usually hits the town for a weekend a month to get his drink on and chase the ladies, since Covid he hasn't done this. He texted me yesterday said he couldn't take it anymore and went and got his first shot, figures he is 50% protected and wanted to know If I knew where half of the Hoes hung out or if there there were any orgies that I knew of operating at half capacity. That crazy fuker is more likely to die from the dose than Covid lol

[QUOTE=mtpockets;1636646803]A buddy of mine a logger and has his own saw mill, single fellow. usually hits the town for a weekend a month to get his drink on and chase the ladies, since Covid he hasn't done this. He texted me yesterday said he couldn't take it anymore and went and got his first shot, figures he is 50% protected and wanted to know If I knew where half of the Hoes hung out or if there there were any orgies that I knew of operating at half capacity. That crazy fuker is more likely to die from the dose than Covid lol[/QUOTE]

But the real question is..how do you know where the hoe’s & orgies are..?

[QUOTE=Paul Kreul;1636647243]But the real question is..how do you know where the hoe’s & orgies are..?[/QUOTE]

I don't, he was just being funny. Besides the town closest to me has 1 stop light, 1 bar and and 1 grocery store. Pretty sure all the hoe's left for greener pastures a couple of hours away.

[QUOTE=Paul Kreul;1636644943]... ) and have never been successful.[/QUOTE]
Define success.

I have the heretical view that we can't defeat this like smallpox was eradicated, but we can protect the vulnerable (including people we didn't realize were vulnerable) while our bodies collectively learn how to live with this virus

If "success" is eradication I think failure is a very high probability.

If "success" is reducing unnecessary deaths, then we are demonstrable succeeding right now.

All vaccines have risk. I don't dispute that. But it seems odd that you are spending so much effort researching all the obscure possible risks of vaccination and never discussing the huge obvious benefits. You need to consider both the pros and cons to weight up a judgement. You seem to only be looking at one side of the scales. Why?

[QUOTE=OldFartTom;1636647923]Define success.

I have the heretical view that we can't defeat this like smallpox was eradicated, but we can protect the vulnerable (including people we didn't realize were vulnerable) while our bodies collectively learn how to live with this virus

If "success" is eradication I think failure is a very high probability.

If "success" is reducing unnecessary deaths, then we are demonstrable succeeding right now.

All vaccines have risk. I don't dispute that. But it seems odd that you are spending so much effort researching all the obscure possible risks of vaccination and never discussing the huge obvious benefits. You need to consider both the pros and cons to weight up a judgement. You seem to only be looking at one side of the scales. Why?[/QUOTE]

To show statistical significance for a virus of this type, a vaccine must show efficacy, (save lives, Period.) However, when the overall death rate is between 0.2 and 0.5 %, there will be little to no benefit. In other words, SARS-COV-2 virus is far too weak right now to show a vaccine effectiveness rate numerically. Ive said it before , what is going on right now, is known in epidemiology as pathogen endemic equilibrium phase, (viral stasis) and is perfectly normal. Virulence weakening and dilution is what always happens when mutations and naturally acquired herd immunity is occurring throughout the populations. Invariably mutation causes infection rate increase ( seasonality still being the biggest factor) and lethality rate decrease, henceforth it becomes ubiquitous and permanent. Vaccination at this stage is essentially pointless.

I’m only looking at one side, because Covid is not nearly as bad as we have been told. When you have heads of states & celebrity’s trying to coaxing you into take an experimental vaccine, sorry, I get suspicious.

Do you know why there are no commercials for this vaccine but there are for every other single drug?

[QUOTE=Paul Kreul;1636648393]To show statistical significance for a virus of this type, a vaccine must show efficacy, (save lives, Period.) However, when the overall death rate is between 0.2 and 0.5 %, there will be little to no benefit. In other words, SARS-COV-2 virus is far too weak right now to show a vaccine effectiveness rate numerically. Ive said it before , what is going on right now, is known in epidemiology as pathogen endemic equilibrium phase, (viral stasis) and is perfectly normal. Virulence weakening and dilution is what always happens when mutations and naturally acquired herd immunity is occurring throughout the populations. Invariably mutation causes infection rate increase ( seasonality still being the biggest factor) and lethality rate decrease, henceforth it becomes ubiquitous and permanent. Vaccination at this stage is essentially pointless.

I’m only looking at one side, because Covid is not nearly as bad as we have been told. When you have heads of states & celebrity’s trying to coaxing you into take an experimental vaccine, sorry, I get suspicious.

Do you know why there are no commercials for this vaccine but there are for every other single drug?[/QUOTE]

Because the states and federal government are taking care of it FOR FREE.

[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1636649693]Because the states and federal government are taking care of it FOR FREE.[/QUOTE]

Oh they are taking care of it alright. It’s amazing, 2 yrs ago you would have said don’t trust Big Pharma & Daddy Govt, but now we are just to fall in line. No thanks. I’ll pass

ok Daily Beast....[url]www.thedailybeast.com/the-covid-conspiracy-freakout-pitting-anti-vaxxers-against-so-called-vaccinated-mutants?ref=home[/url]

[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1636650513]ok Daily Beast....[url]www.thedailybeast.com/the-covid-conspiracy-freakout-pitting-anti-vaxxers-against-so-called-vaccinated-mutants?ref=home[/url][/QUOTE]

Seriously..the Daily Fukin Beast? FFS bro.

[QUOTE=OldFartTom;1636647923]Define success.

I have the heretical view that we can't defeat this like smallpox was eradicated, but we can protect the vulnerable (including people we didn't realize were vulnerable) while our bodies collectively learn how to live with this virus

If "success" is eradication I think failure is a very high probability.

If "success" is reducing unnecessary deaths, then we are demonstrable succeeding right now.

All vaccines have risk. I don't dispute that. But it seems odd that you are spending so much effort researching all the obscure possible risks of vaccination and never discussing the huge obvious benefits. You need to consider both the pros and cons to weight up a judgement. You seem to only be looking at one side of the scales. Why?[/QUOTE]

So wish I could rep this. Paul talks smart and all... yet lacks fundamental judgement. Compared to many of the less-witted anti-everything posters... it's disappointing that he can't see past his own bias.

[QUOTE=PhDPepper1111;1636651233]So wish I could rep this. Paul talks smart and all... yet lacks fundamental judgement. Compared to many of the less-witted anti-everything posters... it's disappointing that he can't see past his own bias.[/QUOTE]

Chit, you got me, just trying to talk smart here. FFS people when funding and pay structure is stacked against academia science in favor of paradigm consensus, it creates an unfair, inaccurate and corrupt narrative...sad that more can’t see this

[img]https://i.imgur.com/tgOODfR.png[/img]

Rock musician Ted Nugent announced he has tested positive for the coronavirus in a ******** live video in which he repeatedly used racist slurs to refer to COVID-19, spit on the floor and promoted anti-vaccine conspiracy theories.

“Everybody told me that I should not announce this,” the conservative rocker said in the video on Monday.

Nugent, a staunch supporter of ex-President Donald Trump, previously called the pandemic a scam and has railed against public health restrictions.

“I have had flu symptoms for the last 10 days. I thought I was dying. I mean, just a cluster****,” Nugent said in the video. “I got the Chinese ****.”

Nugent said he had a “stuffed-up head” and “body aches.”

“My God, what a pain in the ass. I literally can hardly crawl out of bed the last few days. But I did, I crawled,” he said.

[QUOTE=mtpockets;1636653673]Rock musician Ted Nugent announced he has tested positive for the coronavirus in a ******** live video in which he repeatedly used racist slurs to refer to COVID-19, spit on the floor and promoted anti-vaccine conspiracy theories.

“Everybody told me that I should not announce this,” the conservative rocker said in the video on Monday.

Nugent, a staunch supporter of ex-President Donald Trump, previously called the pandemic a scam and has railed against public health restrictions.

“I have had flu symptoms for the last 10 days. I thought I was dying. I mean, just a cluster****,” Nugent said in the video. “I got the Chinese ****.”

Nugent said he had a “stuffed-up head” and “body aches.”

“My God, what a pain in the ass. I literally can hardly crawl out of bed the last few days. But I did, I crawled,” he said.[/QUOTE]

Ted used to claim that he shyt his pants for 2 weeks in order to avoid the draft.

He also was responsible for this horrifying POS

[youtube]l_uh8XjgLTE[/youtube]

Wow, that video is almost a parody of itself

[QUOTE=Paul Kreul;1636650723]Seriously..the Daily Fukin Beast? FFS bro.[/QUOTE]

Not the source itself(nice try) but the types of Covid19 deniers contained within the article, mirror check for you.

[QUOTE=OldFartTom;1636662203]Wow, that video is almost a parody of itself[/QUOTE]

I'm embarrassed for my generation.

[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1636666623]Not the source itself(nice try) but the types of Covid19 deniers contained within the article, mirror check for you.[/QUOTE]

I never claimed Covid does not exist..it’s just fabricated in a way that has never been seen before & all the mandates have proven to be completely useless

5 days post Pfizer shot #2. So far so good.

Brb getting vaccine, proceed to orgasm, get call back about receiving saline solution.

[url]https://www.wxii12.com/article/north-carolina-monroe-walgreens-rare-covid-19-vaccine-mixup/36156055[/url]

[QUOTE=ljimd;1636676693]5 days post Pfizer shot #2. So far so good.[/QUOTE]

That's good new man. I would say you are in the clear now.. Excellent

[QUOTE=ljimd;1636676693]5 days post Pfizer shot #2. So far so good.[/QUOTE]

Good for you, man. I get my 2nd Pfizer on May 6th.

[QUOTE=mtpockets;1636677253]That's good new man. I would say you are in the clear now.. Excellent[/QUOTE]

Hope so. Thanx mt

[QUOTE=ajdahlheimer;1636677933]Good for you, man. I get my 2nd Pfizer on May 6th.[/QUOTE]

Thanx aj, lookin' for 0 SE's for you too.

We gotta kick this bug's azz.

Need more details on this to be sure. It sounds like an isolated case but there's no answers yet.

[url]https://www.wpxi.com/news/top-stories/bethel-park-woman-paralyzed-12-hours-after-getting-first-dose-pfizer-vaccine-doctors-searching-answers/ZSYTEX4H4FHKDFVSPGS3ILJZUI/[/url]

[quote]BETHEL PARK, Pa. — There have been some negative side effects reported worldwide from the Pfizer, Moderna and Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccines, but a Bethel Park woman told Channel 11 she has been affected by something that hadn’t been seen at all yet: paralysis.

The 33-year-old woman, who asked to remain anonymous, said she felt fine in the hours after getting the first dose of the Pfizer vaccine last week. However, she said 12 hours later, she woke up in the middle of the night with no feeling in her arms or legs.

“It was the scariest thing in the world to go to sleep completely fine (and walking), to wake up 1:30 in the morning and not be able to move at all,” the woman said. “I’m literally counting on my daughter to hand me my phone to call to get help.”

Paramedics came and rushed her to Jefferson Hospital. In the coming days, she was moved to Allegheny General Hospital in the Northside and then the Cleveland Clinic -- as doctors ran a multitude of tests to figure out how and why this happened. An MRI and spinal tap were clear, and her blood work all came came back negative, ruling out any rare diseases or disorders.

“There is just nothing they can find wrong with me. No underlying conditions, I have nothing in my history and they are basically telling me, ‘You’re healthy and we can’t figure out why this is going on,’” the woman told Channel 11.

Luckily, she has been able to regain feeling and strength in her arms, but she still has no function from her lower chest down besides very slight movement in a few toes.
[/quote]

[QUOTE=GrouchyUSMC;1636696783]Need more details on this to be sure. It sounds like an isolated case but there's no answers yet.

[url]https://www.wpxi.com/news/top-stories/bethel-park-woman-paralyzed-12-hours-after-getting-first-dose-pfizer-vaccine-doctors-searching-answers/ZSYTEX4H4FHKDFVSPGS3ILJZUI/[/url][/QUOTE]

She knew the risks.. (kidding).That seems pretty isolated, I really think it would be hard to suppress if that was common at all by this point. That kind of stuff ( temporary paralysis) can happen, and when half the adult population has taken a shot it wouldn’t be the wild to have some random case of idiopathic temporary paralysis occur in someone who’s had a shot. Never know though maybe there’s a correlation. Maybe there’s not. Maybe she faked it to become famous. Just hard to say, and doubt we’ll hear anything more about it. If she doesn’t recover it might make the news, maybe lol.

[QUOTE=Paul Kreul;1636676373]I never claimed Covid does not exist..it’s just fabricated in a way that has never been seen before & all the mandates have proven to be completely useless[/QUOTE]

You say some reasonable things... then use that intellect in ways that are almost baffling.
Here's one from my discipline: cognitive dissonance reduction.
We all do it - including me. Most are unaware they're doing it. Even smart people like you.

An estimated 10% to 30% of people who get COVID-19 suffer from lingering symptoms of the disease, or what’s known as “long COVID.”

Judy Dodd, who lives in New York City, is one of them. She spent nearly a year plagued by headaches, shortness of breath, extreme fatigue and problems with her sense of smell, among other symptoms.

She said she worried that this “slog through life” was going to be her new normal.

Everything changed after she got her COVID vaccine.

“I was like a new person. It was the craziest thing ever,” said Dodd, referring to how many of her health problems subsided significantly after her second shot.

As the U.S. pushes to get people vaccinated, a curious benefit is emerging for those with this post-illness syndrome: Their symptoms are easing and, in some cases, fully resolving after vaccination.

It’s the latest clue in the immunological puzzle of long COVID, a still poorly understood condition that leaves some who get infected with wide-ranging symptoms months after the initial illness.

The notion that a vaccine aimed at preventing the disease may also treat it has sparked optimism among patients, and scientists who study the post-illness syndrome are taking a close look at these stories.

“I didn’t expect the vaccine to make people feel better,” said Akiko Iwasaki, an immunologist at the Yale School of Medicine who’s researching long COVID.

“More and more, I started hearing from people with long COVID having their symptoms reduced or completely recovering, and that’s when I started to get excited because this might be a potential cure for some people.”

[url]https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/dodgers-offering-fully-vaccinated-fan-section-for-saturdays-game-vs-padres/ar-BB1fU8c2?ocid=msedgntp[/url]

Dodgers offering 'fully vaccinated fan section' for Saturday's game vs. Padres

I could see this type of thing coming.

edit: and the SF Giants

[url]www.mccoveychronicles.com/2021/4/21/22394529/san-francisco-giants-vaccinations-fans[/url]

Apparently a provider is saying we're seeing an uptick in fully vaccinated people getting COVID.

Googled it - looks to be true. [url]https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/the-shock-and-reality-of-catching-covid-after-being-vaccinated[/url]

[QUOTE=_zman;1636822243]Apparently a provider is saying we're seeing an uptick in fully vaccinated people getting COVID.

Googled it - looks to be true. [url]https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/the-shock-and-reality-of-catching-covid-after-being-vaccinated[/url][/QUOTE]


From what I have read it's the Vaccine isn't a 100%, it's purpose is to combat the effects of the virus and people can still contract and spread the virus

[QUOTE=_zman;1636822243]Apparently a provider is saying we're seeing an uptick in fully vaccinated people getting COVID.

Googled it - looks to be true. [url]https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/the-shock-and-reality-of-catching-covid-after-being-vaccinated[/url][/QUOTE]

Is there even such a thing as a 100% effective vaccine?

[QUOTE=_zman;1636822243]Apparently a provider is saying we're seeing an uptick in fully vaccinated people getting COVID.

Googled it - looks to be true. [url]https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/the-shock-and-reality-of-catching-covid-after-being-vaccinated[/url][/QUOTE]

Yep. Like all other measures, vaccination knocks down the odds of getting it, but doesn't eliminate the risk. The numbers vaccinated are going up, over 100 million in the US now, so obviously the numbers of vaccinated getting it are going up.

It just seems like the efficacy of the vaccines might not be as good as advertised or it's an uptick in variants.

Are you guys seeing studies on miscarriages post vaccination? This lady says she's seen 3 of her friends miss carry right after vaccination.

Yet, still not seeing any promotion of improving your lifestyle or immune system.

"100% effective at ensuring that the small fraction of vaccinated patients who do contract the virus will not get severe cases or require hospitalization."

So we have 6 months of protection, 6 variants, and the Pfizer ceo mentioned a booster shot,#3, at some point in the future.
This thing isn't done by a long shot, just look at India.

[QUOTE=_zman;1636822243]Apparently a provider is saying we're seeing an uptick in fully vaccinated people getting COVID.

Googled it - looks to be true. [url]https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/the-shock-and-reality-of-catching-covid-after-being-vaccinated[/url][/QUOTE]
This shouldn't be a surprise, I don't think anyone (sensibly anyway) is saying that vaccines completely stop everyone getting COVID, the expectation is that they reduce the numbers who catch and spread the virus and the proportion of vaccinated people who catch it who need medical assistance should be much lower than unvaccinated. Bear in mind with the current data that the vaccinated people catching COVID are much more likely to be the most vulnerable people (and why they got vaccinated first) so they are also more likely to require medical assistance. The clearest measure is the death rate, is it going down? Yes in the UK!

Certainly in the UK the message since start of vaccine rollout has been that you still need to use other measures like social distancing, masks, hands etc even after you're vaccinated. Vaccination is just one tool in the toolbox, it's not some magical silver-bullet - call BS on anyone who says it is.

[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1636823283]"100% effective at ensuring that the small fraction of vaccinated patients...[/QUOTE] I don't think 100% is true

[QUOTE=_zman;1636823263]...miscarriages post vaccination?....[/QUOTE]
Very sad to hear. I'm not sure *any* vaccination is wise while pregnant, especially early term. The AZ fact sheet I saw, said not for the pregnant.

[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1636823283]"100% effective at ensuring that the small fraction of vaccinated patients who do contract the virus will not get severe cases or require hospitalization."

So we have 6 months of protection, 6 variants, and the Pfizer ceo mentioned a booster shot,#3, at some point in the future.
This thing isn't done by a long shot, just look at India.[/QUOTE]

Wait a second...

We have "at least" 6 months of protection based on 1 study from the vaccine manufacturer. They still don't know how long the protection will last.

Pfizer ceo wants to sell vaccines.

[QUOTE=OldFartTom;1636823453]This shouldn't be a surprise, I don't think anyone (sensibly anyway) is saying that vaccines completely stop everyone getting COVID, the expectation is that they reduce the numbers who catch and spread the virus and the proportion of vaccinated people who catch it who need medical assistance should be much lower than unvaccinated. Bear in mind with the current data that the vaccinated people catching COVID are much more likely to be the most vulnerable people (and why they got vaccinated first) so they are also more likely to require medical assistance. The clearest measure is the death rate, is it going down? Yes in the UK!

Certainly in the UK the message since start of vaccine rollout has been that you still need to use other measures like social distancing, masks, hands etc even after you're vaccinated. Vaccination is just one tool in the toolbox, it's not some magical silver-bullet - call BS on anyone who says it is.

I don't think 100% is true[/QUOTE]

It was a quote from the npr article linked in the first post on this page.

[QUOTE=_zman;1636823263]It just seems like the efficacy of the vaccines might not be as good as advertised or it's an uptick in variants.

Are you guys seeing studies on miscarriages post vaccination? This lady says she's seen 3 of her friends miss carry right after vaccination.

Yet, still not seeing any promotion of improving your lifestyle or immune system.[/QUOTE]

6,000 breakthrough cases and 100 million vaccinated. Doesn't seem too bad. And, with regard to miscarriages, I thought they recommended you NOT get the vaccine if you are pregnant? Or, was I thinking something else?

Breakthrough cases: [url]https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html[/url]

[quote] COVID-19 vaccine breakthrough infections reported to CDC
As of April 13, 2021, more than 75 million people in the United States had been fully vaccinated against COVID-19 since December 14, 2020.
During the same time, CDC received 5,814 reports of vaccine breakthrough infections from 43 U.S. states and territories.
Vaccine breakthrough infections were reported among people of all ages eligible for vaccination.
2,622 (45%) of the reported infections were among people ≥60 years of age.
3,752 (65%) of the people experiencing a breakthrough infection were female.
1,695 (29%) of the vaccine breakthrough infections were reported as asymptomatic.
396 (7%) people with breakthrough infections were known to be hospitalized and 74 (1%) died.
Of the 396 hospitalized patients, 133 (34%) were reported as asymptomatic or hospitalized for a reason not related to COVID-19.
Of the 74 fatal cases, 9 (12%) were reported as asymptomatic or the patient died due to a cause not related to COVID-19.
Hospitalizations and deaths that are not a direct result of COVID-19 are still considered vaccine breakthrough cases if the person was fully vaccinated and subsequently tested positive for COVID-19.[/quote]

[QUOTE=litljay;1636823623]Wait a second...

We have "at least" 6 months of protection based on 1 study from the vaccine manufacturer. They still don't know how long the protection will last.

Pfizer ceo wants to sell vaccines.[/QUOTE]

I am quoting what he said, hopefully itis much longer. What is Moderna saying for the duration of protection? Shouldn't it be the same?

[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1636823283]"100% effective at ensuring that the small fraction of vaccinated patients who do contract the virus will not get severe cases or require hospitalization."
[/QUOTE]Yea. No. Not 100%

Don't forget - [b]early tests show vaccination results in a MUCH HIGHER (almost 7 times more) chance of "catching" one of the variants.[/b] Yep, much lower variant infection rates by NOT taking the vaccine...

[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1636823963]I am quoting what he said, hopefully itis much longer. What is Moderna saying for the duration of protection? Shouldn't it be the same?[/QUOTE]

I haven't seen anything from Moderna making public comment. However, it's likely similar since the vaccines use similar technology I would assume.

[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1636823843]It was a quote from the npr article linked in the first post on this page.[/QUOTE]The article said "nearly 100%" not 100% ;) but I think that's still too optimistic.
Astra Zeneca is claiming 100% ([url]https://www.astrazeneca.com/media-centre/press-releases/2021/covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca-confirms-protection-against-severe-disease-hospitalisation-and-death-in-the-primary-analysis-of-phase-iii-trials.html[/url])
I find that hard to believe and sure as we get bigger studies over longer time we'll see that % drop

Some people just don't develop antibodies following vaccination (I know an anaesthesiologist who doesn't for Hep. A vaccine for example, which is very bad) that's just how it works. So some people will get next to nothing from the vaccine, some people are unlucky...

What number does nearly 100% represent?
I am curious what you think.

I booked online a while ago and got the call yesterday. I declined the vaccine. I will ride it out a bit longer. I am not around a lot of people and can afford to wait a while.

I will reevaluate it later as more data surfaces on the Vaccine. I am not sold on getting the Jab just yet.

[QUOTE=_zman;1636823263]

Are you guys seeing studies on miscarriages post vaccination? This lady says she's seen 3 of her friends miss carry right after vaccination.

[/QUOTE]

I've had many of my friends miscarry years before the vaccination.

There is no reason to suspect the vaccine has any effect.

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkOgYyNfJOw&list=PLbpi6ZahtOH71a6AQn1p3XGQ2CQSlfPIU[/url]

[QUOTE=CommitmentRulz;1636824043]Yea. No. Not 100%

Don't forget - [b]early tests show vaccination results in a MUCH HIGHER (almost 7 times more) chance of "catching" one of the variants.[/b] Yep, much lower variant infection rates by NOT taking the vaccine...[/QUOTE]

Was that in that pbs article? I haven't seen that.

[QUOTE=litljay;1636823913]And, with regard to miscarriages, I thought they recommended you NOT get the vaccine if you are pregnant? Or, was I thinking something else?

Breakthrough cases: [url]https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html[/url][/QUOTE]

They didn't know they were pregnant at the time of vaccination.

[QUOTE=mtpockets;1636824763]. I am not around a lot of people and can afford to wait a while.
[/QUOTE]

In order to spread the wealth, we are shipping the undocumented and racist anti police protesting welfare state your way, enjoy!

[QUOTE=LWW;1636828043]In order to spread the wealth, we are shipping the undocumented and racist anti police protesting welfare state your way, enjoy![/QUOTE]


Tater, I have been looking for you.. That was a weird text you sent me last night


Folks, I think Tater might be having car trouble, he asked me if he can use this stuff for lubricant. I never seen this stuff before, if you can help my little buddy out. It would be appreciated


[spoiler][img]https://i.imgur.com/0apFbV3.jpg[/img][/spoiler]