Will you get vaccinated?

[QUOTE=Plateauplower;1639593063]Yeah, he’s definitely got perseverance with the crotch licking and seems to enjoy it, so unlikely to change. One time someone told me they wished they could it, which I found odd. I told them that he probably wouldn’t mind, but it would be a good idea to pet him a little bit first.


“Perseveration according to psychology, psychiatry, and speech-language pathology, is the repetition of a particular response (such as a word, phrase, or gesture) regardless of the absence or cessation of a stimulus. It is usually caused by a brain injury or other organic disorder.” - the inter webs.[/QUOTE]

Yes but the word you used above was perversion. Perhaps that was an autocorrect? I assumed it was a joke I didn’t get. That happens a lot.

[quote]What do apples have to do with perversion though? My dog has it and I never see him on the Internet. He’s constantly licking himself, really makes a production out of it.[/quote]

[QUOTE=LWW;1639592033]Chaz, wat up! I was passing by a tv at [b]the lube job place[/b] and [b]The Talk[/b] was on, they fired Sharon Osborne and hired a couple positive vibe homo men..........

It’s a sad show.[/QUOTE]
Haha! Wat up, Tater Dude! I see you been mostly conducting yurself like a civilized upstanding human dude and it almost brings tears to my old eyes, lol. You got so much to offer when you're not raving like a freakin' whackadoodle! I just saying it's cool to see, brother; for what that's worth. :D

but you're still a dip$hit; I mean, look at the text you posted that I bolded. Do you not yet understand that referencing "the Talk" means you actually watched it... even while "just passing by a tv on the way to the lube shop..." haha! Too easy! :p


[QUOTE=Plateauplower;1639592073]Yeah it is odd, the absurd wealth that our politicians accumulate in relation to their pay. Just lucky I guess. The current governor of illinois is the richest governor in the country. Ironically he literally paid a company to remove all the toilets in one of his mansions to have it deemed uninhabitable which saved him several million in taxes. I’m sure it was just a misunderstanding with the scope of work though and an over site by the assessor and his accountants. Things happen...[/QUOTE]
Makes my blood boil when I think about it, but then I remember that's only hurting me. I believe big change is coming, one way or another.

and I for one will graciously welcome our new robot dog overlords. I'm staying positive by assuming even killer robot dogs enjoy belly rubs so there will still be use for some of us, otherwise obsolete humans. :)

I just pray to whoever is listening up there that we dont get hybrid politician/robot overlords cuz the thought of McConnel's head on a Terminator type body gives me the sweats. I'm hoping whatever they are, at least they have cute, friendly faces. :)

[QUOTE=mgftp;1639593283]Granny Smith apples are the absolute worst and should only be used in pies, appropriately portioned with other varieties. I have now lost all respect for JustTheDad.



I have no knowledge if Faucci did say that, the context he did if so, or why.... nor do I care to gain any knowledge on that and I fail to see how it's relevant to clinical trial design.

I am just so lost as to how you have these thoughts when I have seen some really smart people here break this down to you. Are you under the impression that this 3-5 year figure you are seeing somewhere is actual trial length? When you look at the clinical trials for these vaccines we vaccinate or placebo a patient and send them into the world to collect data on Covid cases. Why exactly is more time needed when statistically significant data points were achieved?



Right, and that is what I am saying. Reward us who didn't procrastinate, we are the real heros.[/QUOTE]

They gave the vaccine to the placebo group though..that’s the point.

Hero’s? Dude..You have elected yourself to be there test subject for this drug trial. No doubt sharing images of yourself on social media wearing a mask, holding up your post injection jab card, postering as a benevolent revolutionary savior of man kind.... by your own self poisoning.

[QUOTE=7Seconds;1639593853]Yes but the word you used above was perversion. Perhaps that was an autocorrect? I assumed it was a joke I didn’t get. That happens a lot.[/QUOTE]

Yes, it was a deliberate attempt at humor.

[QUOTE=Paul Kreul;1639593933][b]They gave the vaccine to the placebo group though..that’s the point.[/b]

Hero’s? Dude..You have elected yourself to be there test subject for this drug trial. No doubt sharing images of yourself on social media wearing a mask, holding up your post injection jab card, postering as a benevolent revolutionary savior of man kind.... by your own self poisoning.[/QUOTE]

What?

And that wasn't your point....

[QUOTE=Paul Kreul;1634724413]The vaccine being used today is not an actual vaccine by conventional definition, it is radically brand new experimental mRNA encoding and transcription programming, so the obvious reality is, [b]it has not been tested long enough to understand[/b] safety or [b]efficacy[/b] -- Plain and simple[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ChazWood;1639593873]
Makes my blood boil when I think about it, but then I remember that's only hurting me. I believe big change is coming, one way or another.

and I for one will graciously welcome our new robot dog overlords. I'm staying positive by assuming even killer robot dogs enjoy belly rubs so there will still be use for some of us, otherwise obsolete humans. :)

I just pray to whoever is listening up there that we dont get hybrid politician/robot overlords cuz the thought of McConnel's head on a Terminator type body gives me the sweats. I'm hoping whatever they are, at least they have cute, friendly faces. :)[/QUOTE]

OMG turtles head on a cyborg body is frightening. $hit man, that’s probably why they’ve been throwing all that money into exoskeleton systems for military applications. They are getting ready. Change is coming. Pelosi will probably keep those old leathery fake tits and have machine guns pop out of them like on a bond movie.

[QUOTE=Plateauplower;1639593943]Yes, it was a deliberate attempt at humor.[/QUOTE]

Sorry. I am sure others got it. I’m a bit slow.

[QUOTE=Plateauplower;1639594403]OMG turtles head on a cyborg body is frightening. $hit man, that’s probably why they’ve been throwing all that money into exoskeleton systems for military applications. They are getting ready. Change is coming. Pelosi will probably keep those old leathery fake tits and have machine guns pop out of them like on a bond movie.[/QUOTE]
ROFL Dude, that's a mental image I never wanted. So thanks for that. :D

But you still my boy! Despite your twisted thing for old broads with fake boobs. :p

[QUOTE=mgftp;1639594383]What?

And that wasn't your point....[/QUOTE]

Notsureifserious

[QUOTE=Paul Kreul;1639594973]Notsureifserious[/QUOTE]
Paul Dude, I deliver this question with all respect, but why is this battle so important to you? I think you know what I mean.

[QUOTE=ChazWood;1639595303]Paul Dude, I deliver this question with all respect, but why is this battle so important to you? I think you know what I mean.[/QUOTE]

Because the more people that go along with this larp, the more control the Government will have over everyone...& they never give that control back. I’m sorry but this is a complete larp. There is no such thing as an asymptomatic Pandemic, the masks & lockdowns were proven to be a joke, & this vaccine is just a precursor of what they have in store for us. Passports & proof of vaccination is just now starting to trend, & it will only get worse. Even if you disagree with everything I’ve stated, this should concern you.

[QUOTE=Paul Kreul;1639595673]Because the more people that go along with this larp, the more control the Government will have over everyone...& they never give that control back. I’m sorry but this is a complete larp. There is no such thing as an asymptomatic Pandemic, the masks & lockdowns were proven to be a joke, & this vaccine is just a precursor of what they have in store for us. Passports & proof of vaccination is just now starting to trend, & it will only get worse. Even if you disagree with everything I’ve stated, this should concern you.[/QUOTE]
Of course it concerns me. But I'm not wasting a precious second fixated on something I cannot put my hands on to fix. Before I continue with unfunny, serious talk, what else are you doing besides posting words on an internet forum to rebalance the scales of justice?

EDIT: deleted some stuff cuz it wasnt constructive.

[QUOTE=Paul Kreul;1639595673]Because the more people that go along with this larp, the more control the Government will have over everyone...& they never give that control back. I’m sorry but this is a complete larp. There is no such thing as an asymptomatic Pandemic, the masks & lockdowns were proven to be a joke, & this vaccine is just a precursor of what they have in store for us. Passports & proof of vaccination is just now starting to trend, & it will only get worse. Even if you disagree with everything I’ve stated, this should concern you.[/QUOTE]

You can type til the cows come home but it literally won't change single person's opinion...just the opposite.

[QUOTE=mdonnelly80;1639492733]I've been vaccinated and here's what drove my decision to do so:

1. From a purely anecdotal standpoint (i.e. I'm not going to argue over the global severity of Covid), I saw family and friends become extremely ill. And, natural antibodies didn't last long; my brother caught it twice in six months (two positive tests) and was hospitalized once. He is a healthy 35 year old and I wasn't going to roll those dice.

2. I did my research on the vaccine and found out that it wasn't something that was slapped together in the space of months. It is based off of an existing vaccine for the SARS virus (Covid is a variant of SARs) and that SARs vaccine reportedly took over a decade to develop. The biochemistry behind the development of this Covid vaccine simply piggy-backed off of the SARs vaccine.[/QUOTE]I can respect and agree with all of this. I hope everything works out well for you as time goes by, given that you have had the shots. (I'm sorry, I just can't call it a 'vaccine' as that term has been used medically in the past. One thing about medical terminology: it is precise. It has to be.)

I'm also sorry to folks who have lost friends and loved ones to COVID. I put my anecdotal/personal losses in my post in an effort to avoid responses that missed my points and, instead, gave emotional loss responses. I'm 56 now. I'm losing people I have known and loved all my life with increasing frequency now. It's sad, but it is besides the points I tried to make.

I'm not even 'against' the initial lockdowns. We didn't fully know what we were facing; in certain ways, we still don't. Given the science we did obtain about this Chinese lab created virus, I was supportive of tiered ending to lockdowns 6 months into them. BUT, and yes, I'll be political now, politicians and the media, knowing that you don't ever waste a crisis, turned lockdowns into a political power game and means to hold viewers. We had a President begging governors to open their states. He was called cold, evil, uncaring, and stupid for his efforts. Of course his media and political enemies took the others side and ramped up the fear over information campaign.

Additionally, I have been called racist and stupid for saying this was a Chinese lab created virus. I too spoke with Infectious Disease experts over the course of the past year and a half. These guys knew this was not a natural phenomena a few months into the lockdowns. It just doesn't behave like a natural virus, and all of us should know that powerful governments have major programs designed to develop changes in known viruses with the possible goal of someday using them, if need be. So, I'll stand by my positions. I'm confident about them, but I do enjoy reading posts hear from a few of you who clearly know more on the subject than I do. Even when we disagree.

[QUOTE=Cass40;1639595993]You can type til the cows come home but it literally won't change single person's opinion...just the opposite.[/QUOTE]
OMG! I edited my post after you posted and it didn't do that "edited post" thing!

I have super ninja edit powers! OMG!

:p

[QUOTE=ChazWood;1639595873]Of course it concerns me. But I'm not wasting a precious second fixated on something I cannot put my hands on to fix. Before I continue with unfunny, serious talk, what else are you doing besides posting words on an internet forum to rebalance the scales of justice?

cuz hanging out here and doing this ain't $hit, brother.[/QUOTE]

You’d be surprised how many people read our posts but never comment. I try to share with everyone I know. If I’m wrong about something, I’ll admit my lack of knowledge, as I’ve done here, but we should all be questioning what we are being told...

[QUOTE=ChazWood;1639596133]OMG! I edited my post after you posted and it didn't do that "edited post" thing!

I have super ninja edit powers! OMG!

:p[/QUOTE]

It's time restricted. You have five minutes to edit without it going to that edited post thingy. Don't be plateu, don't edit..

[QUOTE=Cass40;1639595993]You can type til the cows come home but it literally won't change single person's opinion...just the opposite.[/QUOTE]I agree, and I am greatly concerned with how easily we allow our liberties to evaporate. Fear is a serious motivator.

[QUOTE=Cass40;1639595993]You can type til the cows come home but it literally won't change single person's opinion...just the opposite.[/QUOTE]

Completely disagree. I was on board with the masks until I read the posts of another MISC..Numberguy12, & I started to question them, the more I researched, the more I found out how useless they are against viral transmission.

[QUOTE=Paul Kreul;1639596443]Completely untrue. I was on board with the masks until I read the posts of another MISC..Numberguy12, & I started to question them, the more I researched, the more I found out how useless they are against viral transmission.[/QUOTE]

I have not seen one single person here saying they are not questioning things or that they're blindly following the government or whatever else they are accusing the "sheep" doing. Everyone is doing their own research and forming their own conclusions.

[QUOTE=Cass40;1639596633]I have not seen one single person here saying they are not questioning things or that they're blindly following the government or whatever else they are accusing the "sheep" doing. Everyone is doing their own research and forming their own conclusions.[/QUOTE]

And we are sharing research, experiences, & view points by posting for others to see..that’s how minds are changed & action/non-compliance is achieved. See how that works?

The Marines were formed by a bunch of dudes sitting in a bar fed up with the way the country was goin. So kick back, pour yourself a glass, & be a bit more open minded

[QUOTE=Paul Kreul;1639596223]You’d be surprised how many people read our posts but never comment. I try to share with everyone I know. If I’m wrong about something, I’ll admit my lack of knowledge, as I’ve done here, but we should all be questioning what we are being told...[/QUOTE]
Dude, I'm surprised by $hit everyday and I'm Mr Fuking Skeptical. I was essentially abandoned as a child, so I know how to think for myself. That or I'm really fuking lucky to still be alive! Dude, a good deal of my waking hours are spent planning for the future. But not at the expense of truly being present, u dig?

It's great that you question things, but I humbly ask that you continue to work on tweaking your "enthusiasm"; if you know what I mean. While it's a race, it's not a race, if you dig, but keep up the good fight. :)


[QUOTE=Cass40;1639596263]It's time restricted. You have five minutes to edit without it going to that edited post thingy. Don't be plateu, don't edit..[/QUOTE]
whoaw, you're like the virtual Librarian who lifts. That's kinda hotish. :D

[QUOTE=ChazWood;1639596913]Dude, I'm surprised by $hit everyday and I'm Mr Fuking Skeptical. I was essentially abandoned as a child, so I know how to think for myself. That or I'm really fuking lucky to still be alive! Dude, a good deal of my waking hours are spent planning for the future. But not at the expense of truly being present, u dig?

It's great that you question things, but I humbly ask that you continue to work on tweaking your "enthusiasm"; if you know what I mean. While it's a race, it's not a race, if you dig, but keep up the good fight. :)



whoaw, you're like the virtual Librarian who lifts. That's kinda hotish. :D[/QUOTE]

I gotcha. You’re right on that

[QUOTE=ChazWood;1639596913]


whoaw, you're like the virtual Librarian who lifts. That's kinda hotish. :D[/QUOTE]

Why are you ghey?

Jk <3

[QUOTE=Paul Kreul;1639597313]I gotcha. You’re right on that[/QUOTE]
Paul Dude, you contribute here by engaging us with important, significant issues. That helps keep us old fukers on our toes which is cool. Respectful, constructive debate is the cornerstone of social progress and at its best, we're unstoppable as a species; particularly when united with a common goal.

Even if it comes down to living on Mars and bending a knee to Bezos. Yes, Bezos. :D



[QUOTE=Cass40;1639597853]Why are you ghey?

Jk <3[/QUOTE]
haha! It's OK for a hetero dude to be sensitive. In fact, it's an advantage. :)

Ice Cream Time!!!! :D

[QUOTE=ChazWood;1639598073]



haha! It's OK for a hetero dude to be sensitive. In fact, it's an advantage. :)

[/QUOTE]

If you say so brosephian..:rolleyes:

[QUOTE=ChazWood;1639598073]Paul Dude, you contribute here by engaging us with important, significant issues. That helps keep us old fukers on our toes which is cool. Respectful, constructive debate is the cornerstone of social progress and at its best, we're unstoppable as a species; particularly when united with a common goal.

Even if it comes down to living on Mars and bending a knee to Bezos. Yes, Bezos. :D




haha! It's OK for a hetero dude to be sensitive. In fact, it's an advantage. :)

Ice Cream Time!!!! :D[/QUOTE]

Help me out with this mystery Chaz, we can’t figure it out & the Conspiracy Theories are running deep over in the MISC..why was MISC taken off Google search, can’t be seen, & no new accounts, while many members can’t access or even view MISC. What gives?

[QUOTE=Cass40;1639598463]If you say so brosephian..:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

[img]https://i.imgur.com/sBc3hcl.jpg[/img]

:p

[QUOTE=Paul Kreul;1639598513]Help me out with this mystery Chaz, we can’t figure it out & the Conspiracy Theories are running deep over in the MISC..why was MISC taken off Google search, can’t be seen, & no new accounts, while many members can’t access or even view MISC. What gives?[/QUOTE]
Dude, that's easy and likely the same reason lots of other sketchy seeming $hit went down.

Someone done fuked up.

99 times out of 100 I reckon it's human incompetency, ignorance, or plain 'ol lazyness what done did it. Often times even all 3 at once. :D

So why not listen to some awesome tunes and take the rest of the day off from noodling. :)

[QUOTE=ChazWood;1639598793][img]https://i.imgur.com/sBc3hcl.jpg[/img]

:p


Dude, that's easy and likely the same reason lots of other sketchy seeming $hit went down.

Someone done fuked up.

99 times out of 100 I reckon it's human incompetency, ignorance, or plain 'ol lazyness what done did it. Often times even all 3 at once. :D

So why not listen to some awesome tunes and take the rest of the day off from noodling. :)[/QUOTE]

We are chalking it up to the “Faces of the Vaccine Takers Thread”. You are most likely correct but who doesn’t love a good CT.

[url]https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=179982203&page=99[/url]

[QUOTE=Paul Kreul;1639599623]We are chalking it up to the “Faces of the Vaccine Takers Thread”. You are most likely correct but who doesn’t love a good CT.

[url]https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=179982203&page=99[/url][/QUOTE]
hehe, some funny stuff in there, but kinda also cringe overload for this slow thinking Canuck. I'm more comfortable here in the lazyboy section. :)

[url]https://www.bitchute.com/video/kLoOxAsd4fbD/[/url]

[QUOTE=KeepItMoving;1639600963][url]https://www.bitchute.com/video/kLoOxAsd4fbD/[/url][/QUOTE]

Not trying to turn this into a CT thread but..

[url]https://www.bitchute.com/video/F2r9TeHMde3c/[/url]

[QUOTE=Paul Kreul;1639601643]Not trying to turn this into a CT thread but..

[url]https://www.bitchute.com/video/F2r9TeHMde3c/[/url][/QUOTE]It's just info. Info is good. People will do with it what they will. If orders start coming down from government to get this vaccine (because of, of course, public safety, etc.), I will only feel more confident about what I have been believing for about a year now.

[QUOTE=Paul Kreul;1639593933]They gave the vaccine to the placebo group though..that’s the point[/QUOTE]

I already explained the reason for the crossover but since it was a while ago, I'll remind you. It provided more safety data on the IP. Also, the placebo group could only received IP after the data had proven the vaccine worked. On top of that, it was only if they, the subjects wanted to cross over.

If the vaccine hadn't shown efficacy or had any concerning safety signals, none of them would have crossed over. Sites get informed about any SUSARs, so there weren't any secrets kept from the people who enrolled. The ones who were offered the chance to get the vaccine after they were unblinded and learned they had received placebo had more information than the initial active arm. Very standard stuff there Paul.

[QUOTE=Cass40;1639596263]It's time restricted. You have five minutes to edit without it going to that edited post thingy. Don't be plateu, don't edit..[/QUOTE]

Hey now, nobody wants to read giant wall of text!

[QUOTE=Paul Kreul;1639594973]Notsureifserious[/QUOTE]

What? Again, what I bolded in your statement is factually false.

You've had the clinical trial design explained to you by very smart people in very basic ways yet you continue to parrot some nonsense you heard from who knows where. You are approaching your "questioning things" in regards to Covid and vaccines with such a bias and refusal to educate yourself that your questioning is doing you more harm than good,

[QUOTE=Cass40;1639596263]It's time restricted. You have five minutes to edit without it going to that edited post thingy. Don't be plateu, don't edit..[/QUOTE]

Never knew that and I have been here for a minute.

[QUOTE=Cass40;1639596633]I have not seen one single person here saying they are not questioning things or that they're blindly following the government or whatever else they are accusing the "sheep" doing. Everyone is doing their own research and forming their own conclusions.[/QUOTE]

Exactly. I and hundreds of people I know got a vaccine because they wanted to. I don't know a single person who got a vaccine because government told them to.

[QUOTE=JustTheDad;1639603523]I already explained the reason for the crossover but since it was a while ago, I'll remind you. It provided more safety data on the IP. Also, the placebo group could only received IP after the data had proven the vaccine worked. On top of that, it was only if they, the subjects wanted to cross over.

If the vaccine hadn't shown efficacy or had any concerning safety signals, none of them would have crossed over. Sites get informed about any SUSARs, so there weren't any secrets kept from the people who enrolled. The ones who were offered the chance to get the vaccine after they were unblinded and learned they had received placebo had more information than the initial active arm. Very standard stuff there Paul.[/QUOTE]

I am constantly amazed on how you have more steam to continue to explain things. It frustrates me seeing such blatantly false information being spread though, so I can only imagine how it makes MDs feel.

[QUOTE=Paul Kreul;1639566303]Google.
I don’t think anything more needs to be said.[/QUOTE]

That was your weakest reply to date.

Google lists the previously written topics on the subject, in this particular case the post Sturgis spread after folks went home.
To imply that a search engine, which located the numerous articles written by numerous sources, is somehow at fault for listing them, is a stretch.

[QUOTE=mgftp;1639575313]I misc for fun[/QUOTE]

As does everyone else.

[QUOTE=mgftp;1639575313]an opinion of mine, and you are surely entitled to your own.
.[/QUOTE]

Thank you for allowing me to have an opinion.

[QUOTE=eomrat;1639616293]As does everyone else.



Thank you for allowing me to have an opinion.[/QUOTE]

Thank you for sharing your opinion and allowing me to share mine. This has been a most pleasant experience.

[QUOTE=Cass40;1639596633]I have not seen one single person here saying they are not questioning things or that they're blindly following the government or whatever else they are accusing the "sheep" doing. Everyone is doing their own research and forming their own conclusions.[/QUOTE]

I didn’t research chit nor did my wife, she puts her life in her docs hands and since I’m married to her, like Al Bundy said marriage is prison, I’m doing time...............

Just like me moving, that’s not my doing, even though my hood is going to chit, if I wasn’t married I’d still in this hood and then I’d tell big boy in diapers hood rat to go fuk himself and his diaper...............

[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1639615123]That was your weakest reply to date.

Google lists the previously written topics on the subject, in this particular case the post Sturgis spread after folks went home.
To imply that a search engine, which located the numerous articles written by numerous sources, is somehow at fault for listing them, is a stretch.[/QUOTE]

Your strongest post so far was your Dundalk Barbie comment, I was actually proud of you on that one.........

I dated a Daundalk Barbie before and she was a cool person, I asked where she was from and she said “Dundalk aka Dumdaulk” and laughed, she actually lifted some of my heavy barbells, she had her own power wash business, she was more classy than Essex Sally.......,,..

Do you know Essex Sally?

I was born in Essex, but I don't know which Sally you mean

[QUOTE=OldFartTom;1639620963]I was born in Essex, but I don't know which Sally you mean[/QUOTE]

Around here the radio station plays a song every Xmas called “Essex Wonderland” it involves beer cans as Xmas tree ornients......

Btw I just googled Dundalk Barbie, never knew that was a thing, but I didn’t date THAT DBarbie, the one I knew was more 1980s, but it was still funny as chit seeing the real Barbie from Dundalk with those two kids.......

Yo Ben, post up the Devil went to Dundalk parady, if you don’t I will later.......

Devil went to Dundalk looking for soul to steal........

He looked at the devil and said, my Chevy is fast too, den, den, den.......

My sister pregnant my kids on dope, this here Chevy is my last hope..........

[QUOTE=LWW;1639619003]I didn’t research chit nor did my wife, she puts her life in her docs hands and since I’m married to her, like Al Bundy said marriage is prison, I’m doing time...............

Just like me moving, that’s not my doing, even though my hood is going to chit, if I wasn’t married I’d still in this hood and then I’d tell big boy in diapers hood rat to go fuk himself and his diaper...............[/QUOTE]

You gots to be the leader of your family and not let the wife wear the pants, where is this society going otherwise? And strong I don't trust doctors, I don't trust the vaccine, I don't trust the government correlation to vaxx status. Anyhow..like I said I never researched any vaccines I've had in my lifetime nor pretty much any medical procedures but I do research the docs and their reputation.

[QUOTE=Cass40;1639625733]You gots to be the leader of your family and not let the wife wear the pants, where is this society going otherwise? And strong I don't trust doctors, I don't trust the vaccine, I don't trust the government correlation to vaxx status. Anyhow..like I said I never researched any vaccines I've had in my lifetime nor pretty much any medical procedures but I do research the docs and their reputation.[/QUOTE]

My wife knows her doc, has been the family doc for decades.

I liked my old pediatrician, he is Korien, great guy, has strong voice..........

If I didn’t listen to wife, I’d have a heart attack around age 60, or die of something else sooner.

There’s a reason why medical trials last so long, and I could go on for quite a while as to why trials are designed the way they are. And I do hope
This vaccine works for everyone but please read the body’s response to HIV below.
[url]https://www.hivireland.ie/hiv/stages-of-infection/[/url]
Also please read the below link
[url]https://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/articles/vaccine-development-testing-and-regulation[/url]
Hence, it takes quite a while to know how a vaccine will affect individuals and the outcome is currently unknown

[QUOTE=oneanddone2;1639734783]There’s a reason why medical trials last so long, and I could go on for quite a while as to why trials are designed the way they are. And I do hope
This vaccine works for everyone but please read the body’s response to HIV below.
[url]https://www.hivireland.ie/hiv/stages-of-infection/[/url]
Also please read the below link
[url]https://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/articles/vaccine-development-testing-and-regulation[/url]
Hence, it takes quite a while to know how a vaccine will affect individuals and the outcome is currently unknown[/QUOTE]

In YOUR link you posted it says the development of vaccine phases says thousands and tens of thousands test subjects before going to the masses

In the case of covid, hundreds of millions have been tested.

Is that big enough a sample size for you to determine adverse LONG TERM effects? Atleast some out of the hundreds of millions would experience the “long term” effects rather early.

I think we’re all gonna make it.

[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RNA_vaccine[/url]

I want to read more of the link above but mRNA has been studied for decades...it’s not something they came up with to battle just covid. I am not 100% confident either (I’ve gotten Pfizer both shots) due to all this BS flying around the internet but I’d say I am 95% plus comfortable with it

[QUOTE=TryingBB;1639741713]In YOUR link you posted it says the development of vaccine phases says thousands and tens of thousands test subjects before going to the masses

In the case of covid, hundreds of millions have been tested.

Is that big enough a sample size for you to determine adverse LONG TERM effects? Atleast some out of the hundreds of millions would experience the “long term” effects rather early.

I think we’re all gonna make it.

[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RNA_vaccine[/url]

I want to read more of the link above but mRNA has been studied for decades...it’s not something they came up with to battle just covid. I am not 100% confident either (I’ve gotten Pfizer both shots) due to all this BS flying around the internet but I’d say I am 95% plus comfortable with it[/QUOTE]

Just wait until Bill Gates activates your nano bots and controls you like remote control car. Then you’ll be singing a different tune; Literally- It makes people sing Microsoft songs.

[QUOTE=Plateauplower;1639758853]Just wait until Bill Gates activates your nano bots and controls you like remote control car. Then you’ll be singing a different tune; Literally- It makes people sing Microsoft songs.[/QUOTE]
I heard that was the hardest bit. They had the virus ready for several years, but it couldn't be released until the nano vaccine was finished.

(Steve Jobs was changing his mind about it and wanted to use Apple nano chips, that's why Bill Gates had to get rid of him and make it look natural causes).

Anyway, the first releases of the vaccine, people kept making the Windows® noises when they woke up or fell asleep. They managed to get a hotfix for it late summer 2019, only just in time for the October release date!!