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[QUOTE=Cass40;1639596633]I have not seen one single person here saying they are not questioning things or that they're blindly following the government or whatever else they are accusing the "sheep" doing. Everyone is doing their own research and forming their own conclusions.[/QUOTE]
And we are sharing research, experiences, & view points by posting for others to see..that’s how minds are changed & action/non-compliance is achieved. See how that works?
The Marines were formed by a bunch of dudes sitting in a bar fed up with the way the country was goin. So kick back, pour yourself a glass, & be a bit more open minded
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[QUOTE=Paul Kreul;1639596223]You’d be surprised how many people read our posts but never comment. I try to share with everyone I know. If I’m wrong about something, I’ll admit my lack of knowledge, as I’ve done here, but we should all be questioning what we are being told...[/QUOTE]
Dude, I'm surprised by $hit everyday and I'm Mr Fuking Skeptical. I was essentially abandoned as a child, so I know how to think for myself. That or I'm really fuking lucky to still be alive! Dude, a good deal of my waking hours are spent planning for the future. But not at the expense of truly being present, u dig?
It's great that you question things, but I humbly ask that you continue to work on tweaking your "enthusiasm"; if you know what I mean. While it's a race, it's not a race, if you dig, but keep up the good fight. :)
[QUOTE=Cass40;1639596263]It's time restricted. You have five minutes to edit without it going to that edited post thingy. Don't be plateu, don't edit..[/QUOTE]
whoaw, you're like the virtual Librarian who lifts. That's kinda hotish. :D
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[QUOTE=ChazWood;1639596913]Dude, I'm surprised by $hit everyday and I'm Mr Fuking Skeptical. I was essentially abandoned as a child, so I know how to think for myself. That or I'm really fuking lucky to still be alive! Dude, a good deal of my waking hours are spent planning for the future. But not at the expense of truly being present, u dig?
It's great that you question things, but I humbly ask that you continue to work on tweaking your "enthusiasm"; if you know what I mean. While it's a race, it's not a race, if you dig, but keep up the good fight. :)
whoaw, you're like the virtual Librarian who lifts. That's kinda hotish. :D[/QUOTE]
I gotcha. You’re right on that
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[QUOTE=ChazWood;1639596913]
whoaw, you're like the virtual Librarian who lifts. That's kinda hotish. :D[/QUOTE]
Why are you ghey?
Jk <3
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[QUOTE=Paul Kreul;1639597313]I gotcha. You’re right on that[/QUOTE]
Paul Dude, you contribute here by engaging us with important, significant issues. That helps keep us old fukers on our toes which is cool. Respectful, constructive debate is the cornerstone of social progress and at its best, we're unstoppable as a species; particularly when united with a common goal.
Even if it comes down to living on Mars and bending a knee to Bezos. Yes, Bezos. :D
[QUOTE=Cass40;1639597853]Why are you ghey?
Jk <3[/QUOTE]
haha! It's OK for a hetero dude to be sensitive. In fact, it's an advantage. :)
Ice Cream Time!!!! :D
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[QUOTE=ChazWood;1639598073]
haha! It's OK for a hetero dude to be sensitive. In fact, it's an advantage. :)
[/QUOTE]
If you say so brosephian..:rolleyes:
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[QUOTE=ChazWood;1639598073]Paul Dude, you contribute here by engaging us with important, significant issues. That helps keep us old fukers on our toes which is cool. Respectful, constructive debate is the cornerstone of social progress and at its best, we're unstoppable as a species; particularly when united with a common goal.
Even if it comes down to living on Mars and bending a knee to Bezos. Yes, Bezos. :D
haha! It's OK for a hetero dude to be sensitive. In fact, it's an advantage. :)
Ice Cream Time!!!! :D[/QUOTE]
Help me out with this mystery Chaz, we can’t figure it out & the Conspiracy Theories are running deep over in the MISC..why was MISC taken off Google search, can’t be seen, & no new accounts, while many members can’t access or even view MISC. What gives?
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[QUOTE=Cass40;1639598463]If you say so brosephian..:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/sBc3hcl.jpg[/img]
:p
[QUOTE=Paul Kreul;1639598513]Help me out with this mystery Chaz, we can’t figure it out & the Conspiracy Theories are running deep over in the MISC..why was MISC taken off Google search, can’t be seen, & no new accounts, while many members can’t access or even view MISC. What gives?[/QUOTE]
Dude, that's easy and likely the same reason lots of other sketchy seeming $hit went down.
Someone done fuked up.
99 times out of 100 I reckon it's human incompetency, ignorance, or plain 'ol lazyness what done did it. Often times even all 3 at once. :D
So why not listen to some awesome tunes and take the rest of the day off from noodling. :)
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[QUOTE=ChazWood;1639598793][img]https://i.imgur.com/sBc3hcl.jpg[/img]
:p
Dude, that's easy and likely the same reason lots of other sketchy seeming $hit went down.
Someone done fuked up.
99 times out of 100 I reckon it's human incompetency, ignorance, or plain 'ol lazyness what done did it. Often times even all 3 at once. :D
So why not listen to some awesome tunes and take the rest of the day off from noodling. :)[/QUOTE]
We are chalking it up to the “Faces of the Vaccine Takers Thread”. You are most likely correct but who doesn’t love a good CT.
[url]https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=179982203&page=99[/url]
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[QUOTE=Paul Kreul;1639599623]We are chalking it up to the “Faces of the Vaccine Takers Thread”. You are most likely correct but who doesn’t love a good CT.
[url]https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=179982203&page=99[/url][/QUOTE]
hehe, some funny stuff in there, but kinda also cringe overload for this slow thinking Canuck. I'm more comfortable here in the lazyboy section. :)
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[url]https://www.bitchute.com/video/kLoOxAsd4fbD/[/url]
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[QUOTE=KeepItMoving;1639600963][url]https://www.bitchute.com/video/kLoOxAsd4fbD/[/url][/QUOTE]
Not trying to turn this into a CT thread but..
[url]https://www.bitchute.com/video/F2r9TeHMde3c/[/url]
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[QUOTE=Paul Kreul;1639601643]Not trying to turn this into a CT thread but..
[url]https://www.bitchute.com/video/F2r9TeHMde3c/[/url][/QUOTE]It's just info. Info is good. People will do with it what they will. If orders start coming down from government to get this vaccine (because of, of course, public safety, etc.), I will only feel more confident about what I have been believing for about a year now.
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[QUOTE=Paul Kreul;1639593933]They gave the vaccine to the placebo group though..that’s the point[/QUOTE]
I already explained the reason for the crossover but since it was a while ago, I'll remind you. It provided more safety data on the IP. Also, the placebo group could only received IP after the data had proven the vaccine worked. On top of that, it was only if they, the subjects wanted to cross over.
If the vaccine hadn't shown efficacy or had any concerning safety signals, none of them would have crossed over. Sites get informed about any SUSARs, so there weren't any secrets kept from the people who enrolled. The ones who were offered the chance to get the vaccine after they were unblinded and learned they had received placebo had more information than the initial active arm. Very standard stuff there Paul.
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[QUOTE=Cass40;1639596263]It's time restricted. You have five minutes to edit without it going to that edited post thingy. Don't be plateu, don't edit..[/QUOTE]
Hey now, nobody wants to read giant wall of text!
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[QUOTE=Paul Kreul;1639594973]Notsureifserious[/QUOTE]
What? Again, what I bolded in your statement is factually false.
You've had the clinical trial design explained to you by very smart people in very basic ways yet you continue to parrot some nonsense you heard from who knows where. You are approaching your "questioning things" in regards to Covid and vaccines with such a bias and refusal to educate yourself that your questioning is doing you more harm than good,
[QUOTE=Cass40;1639596263]It's time restricted. You have five minutes to edit without it going to that edited post thingy. Don't be plateu, don't edit..[/QUOTE]
Never knew that and I have been here for a minute.
[QUOTE=Cass40;1639596633]I have not seen one single person here saying they are not questioning things or that they're blindly following the government or whatever else they are accusing the "sheep" doing. Everyone is doing their own research and forming their own conclusions.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. I and hundreds of people I know got a vaccine because they wanted to. I don't know a single person who got a vaccine because government told them to.
[QUOTE=JustTheDad;1639603523]I already explained the reason for the crossover but since it was a while ago, I'll remind you. It provided more safety data on the IP. Also, the placebo group could only received IP after the data had proven the vaccine worked. On top of that, it was only if they, the subjects wanted to cross over.
If the vaccine hadn't shown efficacy or had any concerning safety signals, none of them would have crossed over. Sites get informed about any SUSARs, so there weren't any secrets kept from the people who enrolled. The ones who were offered the chance to get the vaccine after they were unblinded and learned they had received placebo had more information than the initial active arm. Very standard stuff there Paul.[/QUOTE]
I am constantly amazed on how you have more steam to continue to explain things. It frustrates me seeing such blatantly false information being spread though, so I can only imagine how it makes MDs feel.
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[QUOTE=Paul Kreul;1639566303]Google.
I don’t think anything more needs to be said.[/QUOTE]
That was your weakest reply to date.
Google lists the previously written topics on the subject, in this particular case the post Sturgis spread after folks went home.
To imply that a search engine, which located the numerous articles written by numerous sources, is somehow at fault for listing them, is a stretch.
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[QUOTE=mgftp;1639575313]I misc for fun[/QUOTE]
As does everyone else.
[QUOTE=mgftp;1639575313]an opinion of mine, and you are surely entitled to your own.
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Thank you for allowing me to have an opinion.
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[QUOTE=eomrat;1639616293]As does everyone else.
Thank you for allowing me to have an opinion.[/QUOTE]
Thank you for sharing your opinion and allowing me to share mine. This has been a most pleasant experience.
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[QUOTE=Cass40;1639596633]I have not seen one single person here saying they are not questioning things or that they're blindly following the government or whatever else they are accusing the "sheep" doing. Everyone is doing their own research and forming their own conclusions.[/QUOTE]
I didn’t research chit nor did my wife, she puts her life in her docs hands and since I’m married to her, like Al Bundy said marriage is prison, I’m doing time...............
Just like me moving, that’s not my doing, even though my hood is going to chit, if I wasn’t married I’d still in this hood and then I’d tell big boy in diapers hood rat to go fuk himself and his diaper...............
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[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1639615123]That was your weakest reply to date.
Google lists the previously written topics on the subject, in this particular case the post Sturgis spread after folks went home.
To imply that a search engine, which located the numerous articles written by numerous sources, is somehow at fault for listing them, is a stretch.[/QUOTE]
Your strongest post so far was your Dundalk Barbie comment, I was actually proud of you on that one.........
I dated a Daundalk Barbie before and she was a cool person, I asked where she was from and she said “Dundalk aka Dumdaulk” and laughed, she actually lifted some of my heavy barbells, she had her own power wash business, she was more classy than Essex Sally.......,,..
Do you know Essex Sally?
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I was born in Essex, but I don't know which Sally you mean
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[QUOTE=OldFartTom;1639620963]I was born in Essex, but I don't know which Sally you mean[/QUOTE]
Around here the radio station plays a song every Xmas called “Essex Wonderland” it involves beer cans as Xmas tree ornients......
Btw I just googled Dundalk Barbie, never knew that was a thing, but I didn’t date THAT DBarbie, the one I knew was more 1980s, but it was still funny as chit seeing the real Barbie from Dundalk with those two kids.......
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Yo Ben, post up the Devil went to Dundalk parady, if you don’t I will later.......
Devil went to Dundalk looking for soul to steal........
He looked at the devil and said, my Chevy is fast too, den, den, den.......
My sister pregnant my kids on dope, this here Chevy is my last hope..........
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[QUOTE=LWW;1639619003]I didn’t research chit nor did my wife, she puts her life in her docs hands and since I’m married to her, like Al Bundy said marriage is prison, I’m doing time...............
Just like me moving, that’s not my doing, even though my hood is going to chit, if I wasn’t married I’d still in this hood and then I’d tell big boy in diapers hood rat to go fuk himself and his diaper...............[/QUOTE]
You gots to be the leader of your family and not let the wife wear the pants, where is this society going otherwise? And strong I don't trust doctors, I don't trust the vaccine, I don't trust the government correlation to vaxx status. Anyhow..like I said I never researched any vaccines I've had in my lifetime nor pretty much any medical procedures but I do research the docs and their reputation.
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[QUOTE=Cass40;1639625733]You gots to be the leader of your family and not let the wife wear the pants, where is this society going otherwise? And strong I don't trust doctors, I don't trust the vaccine, I don't trust the government correlation to vaxx status. Anyhow..like I said I never researched any vaccines I've had in my lifetime nor pretty much any medical procedures but I do research the docs and their reputation.[/QUOTE]
My wife knows her doc, has been the family doc for decades.
I liked my old pediatrician, he is Korien, great guy, has strong voice..........
If I didn’t listen to wife, I’d have a heart attack around age 60, or die of something else sooner.
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There’s a reason why medical trials last so long, and I could go on for quite a while as to why trials are designed the way they are. And I do hope
This vaccine works for everyone but please read the body’s response to HIV below.
[url]https://www.hivireland.ie/hiv/stages-of-infection/[/url]
Also please read the below link
[url]https://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/articles/vaccine-development-testing-and-regulation[/url]
Hence, it takes quite a while to know how a vaccine will affect individuals and the outcome is currently unknown
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[QUOTE=oneanddone2;1639734783]There’s a reason why medical trials last so long, and I could go on for quite a while as to why trials are designed the way they are. And I do hope
This vaccine works for everyone but please read the body’s response to HIV below.
[url]https://www.hivireland.ie/hiv/stages-of-infection/[/url]
Also please read the below link
[url]https://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/articles/vaccine-development-testing-and-regulation[/url]
Hence, it takes quite a while to know how a vaccine will affect individuals and the outcome is currently unknown[/QUOTE]
In YOUR link you posted it says the development of vaccine phases says thousands and tens of thousands test subjects before going to the masses
In the case of covid, hundreds of millions have been tested.
Is that big enough a sample size for you to determine adverse LONG TERM effects? Atleast some out of the hundreds of millions would experience the “long term” effects rather early.
I think we’re all gonna make it.
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RNA_vaccine[/url]
I want to read more of the link above but mRNA has been studied for decades...it’s not something they came up with to battle just covid. I am not 100% confident either (I’ve gotten Pfizer both shots) due to all this BS flying around the internet but I’d say I am 95% plus comfortable with it
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[QUOTE=TryingBB;1639741713]In YOUR link you posted it says the development of vaccine phases says thousands and tens of thousands test subjects before going to the masses
In the case of covid, hundreds of millions have been tested.
Is that big enough a sample size for you to determine adverse LONG TERM effects? Atleast some out of the hundreds of millions would experience the “long term” effects rather early.
I think we’re all gonna make it.
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RNA_vaccine[/url]
I want to read more of the link above but mRNA has been studied for decades...it’s not something they came up with to battle just covid. I am not 100% confident either (I’ve gotten Pfizer both shots) due to all this BS flying around the internet but I’d say I am 95% plus comfortable with it[/QUOTE]
Just wait until Bill Gates activates your nano bots and controls you like remote control car. Then you’ll be singing a different tune; Literally- It makes people sing Microsoft songs.
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[QUOTE=Plateauplower;1639758853]Just wait until Bill Gates activates your nano bots and controls you like remote control car. Then you’ll be singing a different tune; Literally- It makes people sing Microsoft songs.[/QUOTE]
I heard that was the hardest bit. They had the virus ready for several years, but it couldn't be released until the nano vaccine was finished.
(Steve Jobs was changing his mind about it and wanted to use Apple nano chips, that's why Bill Gates had to get rid of him and make it look natural causes).
Anyway, the first releases of the vaccine, people kept making the Windows® noises when they woke up or fell asleep. They managed to get a hotfix for it late summer 2019, only just in time for the October release date!!
