Will you get vaccinated?

[QUOTE=_zman;1630017113]I was mocking the fact that they claim it's safe. There's a reason why they don't recommend the vaccination for those who are pregnant or expecting to be. And they can't verify whether these vaccines will safeguard against mutations. Basically, in my eyes, I think the vaccinations might be a waste of time all together.[/QUOTE]

For pregnant or wanting to become pregnant, I think I read that one of the protein chains is similar enough to a signaling hormone/molecule for menstration that they were worried about the potential for miscarriages or temporary(?) infertility. Better than catching a cold though for women in the age range likely to be pregnant or want to become pregnant lol.

[QUOTE=LWW;1630024443]Yeah yeah, Trump used to get chit for late night tweets, Dr. Mike Savage stayed its Trumps diet, [b]but me and Trump are bulls [/b]. Dr. Savage is a bad mofo too, I don’t think he is even allowed in Toms country, too much masculine toxicity, which is good.[/QUOTE]

Now that you mention it and reading your posts, I can mentally picture a cow sitting there, hooves clomping away on a keyboard.

[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1630026133]Oh he is drunk when he posts....now it all makes sense![/QUOTE]


Usually Yup. poke him once the little fella comes out swinging




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[QUOTE=OldFartTom;1630030643]Good. I hope that's the case. I personally choose to drink but I've seen how ugly it can get when it becomes an excess. That comment was posted from concern, not to trying to get on your case[/QUOTE]

Many would accuse Trump of being on something, however he is straight and never drinks, he listened to his brother who was an alcoholic and told him at a young to never start drinking.

[QUOTE=Plateauplower;1630031803]Now that you mention it and reading your posts, I can mentally picture a cow sitting there, hooves clomping away on a keyboard.[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=LWW;1630024443]Yeah yeah, Trump used to get chit for late night tweets, Dr. Mike Savage stayed its Trumps diet, but me and Trump are bulls. Dr. Savage is a bad mofo too, I don’t think he is even allowed in Toms country, too much masculine toxicity, which is good.[/QUOTE]


I think Tater has a serious man crush on Trump

crazy story right here.....[url]www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9202967/Ex-fire-chief-adult-daughter-son-die-COVID-19-days-other.html[/url]

[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1630101943]crazy story right here.....[url]www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9202967/Ex-fire-chief-adult-daughter-son-die-COVID-19-days-other.html[/url][/QUOTE]

Many young people who don’t get flu vaccines die from the flu healthy people of all ages, amputations too. This has been happening for many many years.

[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1630101943]crazy story right here.....[url]www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9202967/Ex-fire-chief-adult-daughter-son-die-COVID-19-days-other.html[/url][/QUOTE]

Yup, Crazy ben

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I’m signed up to! I’m excited

[url]https://twitter.com/22_Minutes/status/1357745197271154688[/url]

Most likely....if they ever get around to considering me worthy!

I got the second dose.. No issues to report..

If the vulnerable had gotten vaccinated first, Biden could say we beat the virus, but I think he seems to enjoy being the center of memorials and campaigning on “empty chairs”?

[QUOTE=LWW;1632142453]If the vulnerable had gotten vaccinated first, Biden could say we beat the virus, but I think he seems to enjoy being the center of memorials and campaigning on “empty chairs”?[/QUOTE]

Who is your target audience when you type this stuff?
Inquiring minds want to know?

[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1632143543]Who is your target audience when you type this stuff?
Inquiring minds want to know?[/QUOTE]


LOL, all this talk about we are in this together and saving lives, but the vulnerable aren’t being provided vaccines yet, it’s mostly the healthy. And the vulnerable should not be forced, I’m certainly not saying that, but many vulnerable want it and it’s not getting to them.

I can get vaccinated on Thursday but doubt I will. It's back day and who wants a sore shoulder for that?

Nope, Neither my wife or I have gotten it. Have not gotten the flu shot, Have not had a cold, the flu since I cant remember when. My Mom just got her 2nd dose and is fine but she's at risk at 89. Now My wife has said if her employer requires it yes she will get it. I feel that until the at risk populations are vaccinated I dont need it., If strains change or situations change my view could change, but as it stands Hell no

[QUOTE=Bando;1632198263]I can get vaccinated on Thursday but doubt I will. It's back day and who wants a sore shoulder for that?[/QUOTE]
Medically.. they can use the glutes for this, although whether they're expecting and accommodating for that request is something you could discuss with them ;)

[QUOTE=OldFartTom;1632206923]Medically.. they can use the glutes for this, although whether they're expecting and accommodating for that request is something you could discuss with them ;)[/QUOTE]shots in the shoulder are better than the bum. When I’ve had seizures and they have given me a shot in the ass, I couldn’t sit right for a week....

I get my first dose on Thursday:)

Just got back from Oahu. Only thing required was a neg covid test 72hrs to departure.

Even though everyone tested negative on the flight, everyone is required to wear a mask, and you're constantly reminded of this and the fact it's federal crime with federal penalties etc. They even mention if you've tested negative and had the vaccine, mask is still required. I figured this going in, wasn't surprised at all, but it doesn't make it any less ridiculous.

SLC was the only airport with some decent food and shops open. I'd say 50-60% of Oahu was actually open. The amount of fear in the touristy areas was out of control. Plenty of people were actually wearing masks on the beach. Had a few random strangers tell me to wear a mask outside (looked up the rules and it's not required). LAX Delta terminal I was in only had 2 restaurants open, no where to sit to eat dinner. Not sure what good that does.

I was actually thankful and happy to get home. It's damn depressing out there...

So keep in mind, even if you test negative, healthy as can be, have the vaccine, life will not be returning to normal. What in the actual fk is going on? More people have died of drug overdoses than Covid in San Fran, I've been told.

I've even asked medical experts in public forums, what do the numbers have to be to return to normal? Keep in mind, I'm asking the people that get paid to give cities and organizations recommendations and none could/would give an answer. There is no end goal.

[QUOTE=charlievanriper;1632200873]Nope, Neither my wife or I have gotten it. Have not gotten the flu shot, Have not had a cold, the flu since I cant remember when. My Mom just got her 2nd dose and is fine but she's at risk at 89. Now My wife has said if her employer requires it yes she will get it. I feel that until the at risk populations are vaccinated I dont need it., If strains change or situations change my view could change, but as it stands Hell no[/QUOTE]

The mandatory for work thing is utter BS. That is why I stated earlier the vulnerable gets vaccinated first because once the vulnerable are accounted, life can go back on for everyone else.

But yeah, me too, I don’t even get flu shots. The last time I even got a cold was back in the days I would try and train to those workouts in FLEX magazine, I’d get a cold that would linger for a month, cause I was over trained and probially not eating enough. Rest strengthens immunity after hard training.

[QUOTE=_zman;1632223193]Just got back from Oahu. Only thing required was a neg covid test 72hrs to departure.

Even though everyone tested negative on the flight, everyone is required to wear a mask, and you're constantly reminded of this and the fact it's federal crime with federal penalties etc. They even mention if you've tested negative and had the vaccine, mask is still required. I figured this going in, wasn't surprised at all, but it doesn't make it any less ridiculous.

SLC was the only airport with some decent food and shops open. I'd say 50-60% of Oahu was actually open. The amount of fear in the touristy areas was out of control. Plenty of people were actually wearing masks on the beach. Had a few random strangers tell me to wear a mask outside (looked up the rules and it's not required). LAX Delta terminal I was in only had 2 restaurants open, no where to sit to eat dinner. Not sure what good that does.

I was actually thankful and happy to get home. It's damn depressing out there...

So keep in mind, even if you test negative, healthy as can be, have the vaccine, life will not be returning to normal. What in the actual fk is going on? More people have died of drug overdoses than Covid in San Fran, I've been told.

I've even asked medical experts in public forums, what do the numbers have to be to return to normal? Keep in mind, I'm asking the people that get paid to give cities and organizations recommendations and none could/would give an answer. There is no end goal.[/QUOTE]

thanks for all of that, very helpful

this is the direction i see us possibly going in with a "green pass"

[url]www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9294673/How-life-getting-normal-Israels-citizens-Nearly-3-million-fully-inoculated.html[/url]

It doesn't even meet the qualifications for what a vaccine actually is. Remember how things turned out when they tried to come up with a vaccine for SARS back in 2004?

[QUOTE=_zman;1632223193] Keep in mind, I'm asking the people that get paid to give cities and organizations recommendations and none could/would give an answer. There is no end goal.[/QUOTE]

That's because the point of Covid is to be continuous as a means of control. I can't believe people still can't wrap their heads around that.

Might consider getting the J&J or Sputnik vaccines.

Fuk no to Pfizer or Moderna.

[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1632230973]thanks for all of that, very helpful

this is the direction i see us possibly going in with a "green pass"

[url]www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9294673/How-life-getting-normal-Israels-citizens-Nearly-3-million-fully-inoculated.html[/url][/QUOTE]



I bet you would just luv that? Fuk that app freedom killing BS!!!

[QUOTE=LWW;1632232393]I bet you would just luv that? Fuk that app freedom killing BS!!![/QUOTE]

I bet......that your bet..... would be totally wrong...... like 97% of the things you state/assume here.
Just stop trying, your % is so low; you are like the gambler that keeps losing and continues betting.

[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1632232633]I bet......that your bet..... would be totally wrong...... like 97% of the things you state/assume here.
Just stop trying, your % is so low; you are like the gambler that keeps losing and continues betting.[/QUOTE]

BS, you say you are a baby hulk, but you sound like baby Don Lemon, lol.

[QUOTE=LWW;1632233943]BS, you say you are a baby hulk, but you sound like baby Don Lemon, lol.[/QUOTE]

Says the little b*itch that won't meet me for a friendly workout at Kevin Levrone's gym; which btw.... is the midway point off of 95Nth.

Why do you always go personal and off the topic!?

Stay on topic ADD/ADHD/OCD.
The topic isssss taking the vax, not personal characteristics, preferences or ideologies.
If you cant do that then gtfo.

[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1632230973]thanks for all of that, very helpful

this is the direction i see us possibly going in with a "green pass"

[url]www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9294673/How-life-getting-normal-Israels-citizens-Nearly-3-million-fully-inoculated.html[/url][/QUOTE]

Interesting and sad to read. Thanks for sharing.

[QUOTE=ApeXXXPredator;1632231843]That's because the point of Covid is to be continuous as a means of control. I can't believe people still can't wrap their heads around that.[/QUOTE]

Trust me when I say I fully understand and can wrap my head around it. I'm just simply sharing my experience of how out of control this whole scheme is. And I'm literally prodding the experts and epidemiologists I have access to, just to see what BS response they come up with. I never thought I'd return from a vacation from such a beautiful place in a state of depression and hopelessness, simply because of how gullible and easily controlled the general public is.

On a positive note, Delta's staff were all very nice and hospitable. All the people of Oahu I encountered were very nice and hospitable as well.

[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1632234333]Says the little b*itch that won't meet me for a friendly workout at Kevin Levrone's gym; which btw.... is the midway point off of 95Nth.

Why do you always go personal and off the topic!?

Stay on topic ADD/ADHD/OCD.
The topic isssss taking the vax, not personal characteristics, preferences or ideologies.
If you cant do that then gtfo.[/QUOTE]

Who are you calling little? I can probially out lift you with spoon and fork.

Funny though as you seem to get defensive of my posts, like yesterday?

Hopefully most employers require it. Hopefully most large gatherings like concerts and sporting events also require it. Schools and universities too. If the uneducated want to hurt themselves, that’s their decision. But when their stupidity threatens to prolong the pandemic, I’ll gladly support policies that exclude them from society.

[QUOTE=Reliance012;1632235463]Hopefully most employers require it. Hopefully most large gatherings like concerts and sporting events also require it. Schools and universities too. If the uneducated want to hurt themselves, that’s their decision. But when their stupidity threatens to prolong the pandemic, I’ll gladly support policies that exclude them from society.[/QUOTE]

Your talking as if a vaccine actually stops the spread? There is no real proof of that and if you truly believe in science you’d know that it’s possible to spread even with a vaccine, but it only is deadly to like 1 percent.

And you can piss off with the concentration camp talk, as no one in my house has gotten it and I don’t follow your pansy rules. Lol!!!

[QUOTE=charlievanriper;1632200873]Nope, Neither my wife or I have gotten it. Have not gotten the flu shot, Have not had a cold, the flu since I cant remember when. My Mom just got her 2nd dose and is fine but she's at risk at 89. Now My wife has said if her employer requires it yes she will get it. I feel that until the at risk populations are vaccinated I dont need it., If strains change or situations change my view could change, but as it stands Hell no[/QUOTE]

Props!

[QUOTE=LWW;1632235053]Who are you calling little? I can probially out lift you with spoon and fork.

Funny though as you seem to get defensive of my posts, like yesterday?[/QUOTE]

Dude, whats going on? Losing a little respect here man, if you guys are close by each other and the man asked you to meet him at the gym (also calling you a little bitch at that) your response should have been what day and what time.....No bueno brotha and you know I don't ever attack you in anyway, but that response was weak AF.

[QUOTE=LWW;1632228113]The mandatory for work thing is utter BS. That is why I stated earlier the vulnerable gets vaccinated first because once the vulnerable are accounted, life can go back on for everyone else.

But yeah, me too, I don’t even get flu shots. The last time I even got a cold was back in the days I would try and train to those workouts in FLEX magazine, I’d get a cold that would linger for a month, cause I was over trained and probially not eating enough. Rest strengthens immunity after hard training.[/QUOTE]

Yep totally agree bro. I believe the last cold or flu was 1995 or 96 after running myself down after a week long party run lol, blew my immune system to hell after that fun week ..

[QUOTE=LWW;1632235053]Who are you calling little? I can probially out lift you with spoon and fork.

Funny though as you seem to get defensive of my posts, like yesterday?[/QUOTE]

Any vaxx comments........... if not, we are done
Again, stop posting about posters.................................. and fkn stay on topic.

[QUOTE=bodyhard;1632243943]Props!



Dude, whats going on? Losing a little respect here man, if you guys are close by each other and the man asked you to meet him at the gym (also calling you a little bitch at that) your response should have been what day and what time.....No bueno brotha and you know I don't ever attack you in anyway, but that response was weak AF.[/QUOTE]


That’s fine.

I don’t have time to meet and train with him, (I barley got time to train at my gym down the road). I post my training in your thread. I told him to do that to but he won’t, that’s fine. I train for me and no one else.

I really don’t care what he calls me, lol!

If I were a single man with no family I’d travel anywhere to train, i used to actually do that back in the days. Times change.

[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1632245853]Any vaxx comments........... if not, we are done
Again, stop posting about posters.................................. and fkn stay on topic.[/QUOTE]

You do realize I called myself fat right??????????

[QUOTE=LWW;1632246383]That’s fine.

I don’t have time to meet and train with him, (I barley got time to train at my gym down the road). I post my training in your thread. I told him to do that to but he won’t, that’s fine. I train for me and no one else.

I really don’t care what he calls me, lol!

If I were a single man with no family I’d travel anywhere to train, i used to actually do that back in the days. Times change.[/QUOTE]

Thats kool, and I respect your stance, just find it weak if you can call someone out online and then have that same opportunity to do so in real life (within means of course like living close to one another) then I say do so, but that's just me.

As for the traveling (not just to train but to meet folks) I am a family man, with kids as well and I have traveled to other states to meet folks (for good and bad reasons) online, but again that's just me.

[QUOTE=bodyhard;1632251433]Thats kool, and I respect your stance, just find it weak if you can call someone out online and then have that same opportunity to do so in real life (within means of course like living close to one another) then I say do so, but that's just me.

As for the traveling (not just to train but to meet folks) I am a family man, with kids as well and I have traveled to other states to meet folks (for good and bad reasons) online, but again that's just me.[/QUOTE]


I talk the same way I do here as in the gym, for instance the new strain topic was brought up, my gym owner said he believes in the virus but he’s not scared of it, I immediately stated that I’m a denier and that I believe the virus was here before but for political reasons the gov told us this time.

Now comments like this seem to offend people here, Ben seems to be one? so I tend to have fun with him about it, I asked if he even trained ? Which is a valid question, but I really wasn’t calling him out, but hell your thread is right around the corner, I’d love to see Ben train on video but I’m just not going out of my way at this time.

Btw no one at my gym seemed offended, but no said I agree or disagree, don’t think anyone cared really.

[QUOTE=LWW;1632236913]Your talking as if a vaccine actually stops the spread? There is no real proof of that and if you truly believe in science you’d know that it’s possible to spread even with a vaccine, but it only is deadly to like 1 percent.

And you can piss off with the concentration camp talk, as no one in my house has gotten it and I don’t follow your pansy rules. Lol!!![/QUOTE]

Both theory and now empirical evidence suggest the vaccines substantially reduce transmission. Hop off Twitter and take a biology course kid.

[QUOTE=LWW;1632254273]I talk the same way I do here as in the gym, for instance the new strain topic was brought up, my gym owner said he believes in the virus but he’s not scared of it, I immediately stated that I’m a denier and that I believe the virus was here before but for political reasons the gov told us this time.

Now comments like this seem to offend people here, Ben seems to be one? so I tend to have fun with him about it, I asked if he even trained ? Which is a valid question, but I really wasn’t calling him out, but hell your thread is right around the corner, I’d love to see Ben train on video but I’m just not going out of my way at this time.

Btw no one at my gym seemed offended, but no said I agree or disagree, don’t think anyone cared really.[/QUOTE]

This is where you fkd up, "I bet you would just luv that."

Why would any reasonable person( no mater what political party) want to prove, carry around, enjoy, take any pleasure in or "Love that"?
It is a stupid statement!
No one wants to have to prove their status with shots and vaccinations, fkn no one.
fyi i started lifting in 84 when my dad taught me everything he knew and i never stopped.

[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1632265183]This is where you fkd up, "I bet you would just luv that."

Why would any reasonable person( no mater what political party) want to prove, carry around, enjoy, take any pleasure in or "Love that"?
It is a stupid statement!
No one wants to have to prove their status with shots and vaccinations, fkn no one.
fyi i started lifting in 84 when my dad taught me everything he knew and i never stopped.[/QUOTE]

Well it sounded to me like you are for it, I’ve spoken out against it and you’ve only critized me?

Btw the guy posting before you seems to want that?

[QUOTE=LWW;1632266283]Well it sounded to me like you are for it, I’ve spoken out against it and you’ve only critized me?

Btw the guy posting before you seems to want that?[/QUOTE]

I only criticize those that won't do the "basics" because i want things to return to "normal" quickly.
I want everything back to the way it was March 12, 2020
It is called Covid fatigue.

[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1632319493]I only criticize those that won't do the "basics" because i want things to return to "normal" quickly.
I want everything back to the way it was March 12, 2020
It is called Covid fatigue.[/QUOTE]

And this is where my views come in on how this government has turned its people against each other, I don’t give a fuk what other people do, I’m not gonna cry because it’s really in the hands of what I call the commies, hence I already told you the way things get back to normal is to account for the vulnerable getting vaccined.

And I already told you no one in my house had gotten it, so I’m doing the smart stuff and not getting, now mt pockets won’t believe a fuking word of it.

Your post above is why I call you Don Lemon. Me, my hero’s are the gym owners defying orders, you can’t let people step on you even if it may hult normal for awhile, if we don’t well loose more, but if we fight, they know the people won’t let them bully them.

[QUOTE=mtpockets;1623478861]How about you?[/QUOTE]

A couple days ago we put our names on the (obligatory) [I]call list[/I] at the health center here in town.
She said about 2 weeks, maybe less, we'll receive a call to come on in and get it done.

I've heard it's made some a bit ill for a day or two after getting the latest shots.
Don't know if that reaction is ubiquitous or not.

No matter to me....I don't have a problem (in this context) of complying and getting the vaccine.

Que tenga un buen dia todos...

[QUOTE=LWW;1632327113]And this is where my views come in on how this government has turned its people against each other, I don’t give a fuk what other people do, I’m not gonna cry because it’s really in the hands of what I call the commies, hence I already told you the way things get back to normal is to account for the vulnerable getting vaccined.

And I already told you no one in my house had gotten it, so I’m doing the smart stuff and not getting, now mt pockets won’t believe a fuking word of it.

won’t letYour post above is why I call you Don Lemon. Me, my hero’s are the gym owners defying orders, you can’t let people step on you even if it may hult normal for awhile, if we don’t well loose more, but if we fight, they know the people them bully them.[/QUOTE]

Ok just make your point without the "color full" names, can you do that, and this will go a lot smoother?

Imagine you typing this instead of talking about me at all( i assume you dislike Don, his politics, or him being gay, who tf know with you dude!)

"Me, my hero’s are the gym owners defying orders, you can’t let people step on you even if it may hult normal for awhile, if we don’t well loose more, but if we fight, they know the people them bully them."

That tells me what you think, without talking about me at all, can you understand the difference in communication?
I don't need to be part of your thought, just need to read your idea.

Got an update from local "medical experts".

Their recommendations for life returning to normal...can't say. "Numbers are lower than ever before, but this is no time to let our guard down. Everyone needs to be vaccinated first before considering scaling back the recommendations."

Our transmission and positive rate hasn't really been lower than it is now. Vaccination rate is around 20%.

My prediction for a normal life, at best might be 2022, unless another real pandemic comes along. Can't imagine what the procedures/recommendations are if a real virus comes along.