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[QUOTE=OldFartTom;1635021483]That explains the Finnish President 1982-1994 (and Prime minister before that 1968-1970 and 1979-1982 [url]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauno_Koivisto[/url]) was also Waffen-SS serving under Törni. History can be complicated.[/QUOTE]
I HAVE learned something today in the misc :)
[QUOTE=Cass40;1635000713]We didn't want to become Russians again. There was no option. We can't be Russians. Please forgive us.[/QUOTE]
I admire him a great deal. It can't be my place to judge what a Finnish person did in 1940 to ensure that Finland stayed Finland. As a matter of fact, I admire the entire country a great deal. Simo Häyhä is another hero of mine. In the US Army, in my community anyway, these guys are regarded as semi-deities. They are held in the same regard as guys like Francis Marion, Roy Benavidez, Otto Skorzeny, William Darby, Mad Jack Churchill or General Wainwright.
edit - I correct myself. No one is regarded as the equal to MSG Benavidez.
[QUOTE=eomrat;1635025453]I admire him a great deal. It can't be my place to judge what a Finnish person did in 1940 to ensure that Finland stayed Finland. As a matter of fact, I admire the entire country a great deal. Simo Häyhä is another hero of mine. In the US Army, in my community anyway, these guys are regarded as semi-deities. They are held in the same regard as guys like Francis Marion, Roy Benavidez, Otto Skorzeny, William Darby, Mad Jack Churchill or General Wainwright.[/QUOTE]
Not to mention that they produce some top notch autosport drivers. Winter sports I get, but racing is another matter and interesting. :)
[QUOTE=ChazWood;1635026163]Not to mention that they produce some top notch autosport drivers. Winter sports I get, but racing is another matter and interesting. :)[/QUOTE]
Finnish rally drivers are gods in my eyes. They invented the Scandinavian Flick. And their F1 drivers are no slouches either. When you look back at Group B rallying in the 1980s the Finns were awesome (not that they're not now).
[url]https://youtu.be/-PZ5J3GLSYI[/url]
[QUOTE=eomrat;1635025453]I admire him a great deal. It can't be my place to judge what a Finnish person did in 1940 to ensure that Finland stayed Finland. As a matter of fact, I admire the entire country a great deal. Simo Häyhä is another hero of mine. In the US Army, in my community anyway, these guys are regarded as semi-deities. They are held in the same regard as guys like Francis Marion, Roy Benavidez, Otto Skorzeny, William Darby, Mad Jack Churchill or General Wainwright.
edit - I correct myself. No one is regarded as the equal to MSG Benavidez.[/QUOTE]
I owe him my life. I am very grateful for what they did.
[QUOTE=PlanoLifter;1635041973]Finnish rally drivers are gods in my eyes. They invented the Scandinavian Flick. And their F1 drivers are no slouches either. When you look back at Group B rallying in the 1980s the Finns were awesome (not that they're not now).
[url]https://youtu.be/-PZ5J3GLSYI[/url][/QUOTE]
Did I ever mention that both Mika Salo and Mika Häkkinen were my neighbors. :)
[QUOTE=Cass40;1635042383]I owe him my life. I am very grateful for what they did.
Did I ever mention that both Mika Salo and Mika Häkkinen were my neighbors. :)[/QUOTE]
Did you ever ask them to take you for a ride (in their cars :) )??
I once met Jacques Villeneuve at a track in Ontario Canada where I was with my car. I asked him to take me for a couple of laps in my car with him driving it. He took several seconds off my best time the first time in my car and the first time at that track for him. The skill and car control these guys have is incredible.
[QUOTE=PlanoLifter;1635042713]Did you ever ask them to take you for a ride (in their cars :) )??
I once met Jacques Villeneuve at a track in Ontario Canada where I was with my car. I asked him to take me for a couple of laps in my car with him driving it. He took several seconds off my best time the first time in my car and the first time at that track for him. The skill and car control these guys have is incredible.[/QUOTE]
No I didn't really know them cos they were a few years older and I moved there when I was 12, and they were probably already almost left home by that time. My friend dated Mika Salo a bit but she was a hottie.
[QUOTE=Cass40;1635042383]Did I ever mention that both Mika Salo and Mika Häkkinen were my neighbors. :)[/QUOTE]
Yes. :p
btw, thanks for doing what you did last week. That was nice. :)
[QUOTE=PlanoLifter;1635042713]Did you ever ask them to take you for a ride (in their cars :) )??
I once met Jacques Villeneuve at a track in Ontario Canada where I was with my car. I asked him to take me for a couple of laps in my car with him driving it. He took several seconds off my best time the first time in my car and the first time at that track for him. The skill and car control these guys have is incredible.[/QUOTE]
Very cool! I once got the opportunity to stand by the side of the track taking pictures of an F1 race at the circuit named after his dad in Montreal.
and F1 is back and better than ever, IMHO. I just signed up for streaming on F1TV and had incredible access to all the action of the race in Bahrain this past weekend. You can watch action from any car and listen to the radio comms between driver and team. Since being bought by a subsidiary of Disney, they are really upping the exposure with killer online access and the top notch Netflix series - "Drive to Survive".
[QUOTE=eomrat;1634978023]That makes no sense at all. Even if it was true, it wouldn't make sense.[/quote]
You don't recall the German-issued kennkarten the Nazi party made mandatory for everyone to carry? Which also had specific markings to denote those of Jewish heritage, so if you didn't have the Star of David prominently displayed you would get in trouble? Guess you need to brush up on your WWII history.
[quote]My experience has been opposite of this.[/QUOTE]
Most of the OIF/OEF vets I know are against it, especially due to the mandatory anthrax shots we had to get. And if they lost your medical records? You could expect all 6 once again. And now that the VA is exploring the possibility of the anthrax vaccination being related to Gulf Way syndrome, that's just another reason to wait.
[QUOTE=ChazWood;1635044223]Yes. :p
btw, thanks for doing what you did last week. That was nice. :)
Very cool! I once got the opportunity to stand by the side of the track taking pictures of an F1 race at the circuit named after his dad in Montreal.
and F1 is back and better than ever, IMHO. I just signed up for streaming on F1TV and had incredible access to all the action of the race in Bahrain this past weekend. You can watch action from any car and listen to the radio comms between driver and team. Since being bought by a subsidiary of Disney, they are really upping the exposure with killer online access and the top notch Netflix series - "Drive to Survive".[/QUOTE]
Yes this last F1 race was just awesome. 0.7s between Hamilton and Verstappen. Finally Mercedes has some competition. I usually get the US, Canadian, and British Grands Prix every year (last year none of them unfortunately). I love motorsports.
[QUOTE=_zman;1634984443]Lucky to have such a wise neighbor. Talk to him as much as you can :)[/QUOTE]
Super interesting guy. He is completely independent and his license is good until he's 104. He builds WWII model airplanes out of popsicle sticks and still does his "Army exercises" every day. Taught me how to field strip his M1 Garand, we never got to go shooting together yet though.
[QUOTE=Gabbar99;1634985343]Trying to picture this in my head. So the Nazis are in control of a village in France or Poland or some place and some are demanding papers from local people, for political reason whatever that means, and the US Army is standing across the street with their guns and they shoot the bad Nazis who are demanding papers but let the others go and then the good Nazis and the US Army break for lunch and sit down in a cafe together. Do I have that right?[/QUOTE]
Refer to my previous post about. Part of the reason for the existence of the Kennkarten was to identify and control those found unclean by the Third Reich. A German soldier could demand the papers of anyone traveling through a German-controlled territory. If you failed to present them or there were any inconsistencies, you were arrested.
[QUOTE=PlanoLifter;1635044923]Yes this last F1 race was just awesome. 0.7s between Hamilton and Verstappen. Finally Mercedes has some competition. I usually get the US, Canadian, and British Grands Prix every year (last year none of them unfortunately). I love motorsports.[/QUOTE]
Good stuff! I'm super-stoked for this season!
You should check out F1TV; they have a 7 day free access deal if you sign up. They even have archives and you can watch legendary races and interviews. I'm not shilling, I just think it's really great. :)
EDIT: Sorry for the derail.
[QUOTE=ChazWood;1635045573]Good stuff! I'm super-stoked for this season!
You should check out F1TV; they have a 7 day free access deal if you sign up. They even have archives and you can watch legendary races and interviews. I'm not shilling, I just think it's really great. :)[/QUOTE]
I am a new subscriber. The coverage is great and the price is very reasonable. This is my first year subscribing to the service.
[QUOTE=GrouchyUSMC;1635045223]Refer to my previous post about. Part of the reason for the existence of the Kennkarten was to identify and control those found unclean by the Third Reich. A German soldier could demand the papers of anyone traveling through a German-controlled territory. If you failed to present them or there were any inconsistencies, you were arrested.[/QUOTE]
If it was German controlled, what army was shooting them if they demanded papers and not shooting them if they didn't?
[QUOTE=Gabbar99;1635062113]If it was German controlled, what army was shooting them if they demanded papers and not shooting them if they didn't?[/QUOTE]
I admire your attempt to appear completely oblivious to what he actually means. Great trolling.
[QUOTE=eomrat;1635025453]I admire him a great deal. It can't be my place to judge what a Finnish person did in 1940 to ensure that Finland stayed Finland. As a matter of fact, I admire the entire country a great deal. Simo Häyhä is another hero of mine. In the US Army, in my community anyway, these guys are regarded as semi-deities. They are held in the same regard as guys like Francis Marion, Roy Benavidez, Otto Skorzeny, William Darby, Mad Jack Churchill or General Wainwright.
edit - I correct myself. No one is regarded as the equal to MSG Benavidez.[/QUOTE]
MSG Roy Benavidez is the baddest mofo in the history of the US Military and particularly the SpecOps community.
I love his quote (paraphrased):
"There are two kinds of warriors - Those who serve tyrants and those who serve free men." (But I think women and babies and maybe goats are also included in that statement.)
I refuse to serve tyrants. That's why I always talk goat$hit about our gubmint. Cuz it's full of commie bastards who sold America to the lowest bidder. It is my wish that a 3-foot, 4-inch diameter cactus full of thorns painfully grow out of these commies' sphincters. If the American People only knew what goes on behind the scene, there would be a freakin revolution tonight.
Carry on.
Just LoL@ being anti-vax in 2021.
Anti-vax, flat-earthers, fake moon landing. Human race is getting dumber.
[QUOTE=mgftp;1635065363]Just LoL@ being anti-vax in 2021.
Anti-vax, flat-earthers, fake moon landing. Human race is getting dumber.[/QUOTE]
No, it's not. The internet is just exposing what's always been there. :)
[QUOTE=GrouchyUSMC;1635044553]You don't recall the German-issued kennkarten the Nazi party made mandatory for everyone to carry? Which also had specific markings to denote those of Jewish heritage, so if you didn't have the Star of David prominently displayed you would get in trouble? Guess you need to brush up on your WWII history.[/QUOTE]
Yes. I am aware that the Germans made people carry ID cards. Everyone is aware of that. Now, explain how the American soldiers in Germany were able to determine which Germans were asking folks for their ID cards? Or were the Germans in France asking American GI's for their ID's during combat?
You can brush up on your World History here:
[url]http://ww2history.com/[/url]
[QUOTE=GrouchyUSMC;1635044553]. And now that the VA is exploring the possibility of the anthrax vaccination being related to Gulf Way syndrome, [/QUOTE]
We did not get Anthrax vaccine before the Gulf War. The Anthrax Vaccine Immunization Program did not start until 1999.
You can brush up on your own alleged history here:
[url]https://www.cdc.gov/anthrax/resources/anthrax-vaccine-research.html[/url]
You like to tell stories.
[QUOTE=eomrat;1635066823]Yes. I am aware that the Germans made people carry ID cards. Everyone is aware of that. Now, explain how the American soldiers in Germany were able to determine which Germans were asking folks for their ID cards? Or were the Germans in France asking American GI's for their ID's during combat?
You can brush up on your World History here:
[url]http://ww2history.com/[/url]
We did not get Anthrax vaccine before the Gulf War. The Anthrax Vaccine Immunization Program did not start until 1999.
You can brush up on your own alleged history here:
[url]https://www.cdc.gov/anthrax/resources/anthrax-vaccine-research.html[/url]
You like to tell stories.[/QUOTE]
Actually a very good friend of mine, a retired USMC LTC, Norwich Grad 94, received anthrax vaxx in the late 90s. He has health issues related to the vaxx.
Not only has the US Military become a social experiment lab for criminal politicians who never served, our members have also become lab rats.
Do you think it's a coincidence that 22 vets kill themselves a day? PTSD is real. But what are the possibilities that the vaxxes we all received fighting for oil screwed us all in the head?
Just food for thought. I know a few vets who are sick physically due to vaxxes. You're a smart guy. I'm sure you are aware that the US gubmint experimented on Blacks back then.
[QUOTE=NorwichGrad;1635067333]Actually a very good friend of mine, a retired USMC LTC, Norwich Grad 94, received anthrax vaxx in the late 90s. He has health issues related to the vaxx.
[/QUOTE]
Understood, but the Gulf War was in 1991. The Anthrax Vaccine was not administered until 1998. Mr. Grouchy is [i]confused[/i].
I am hyper-aware of the issues facing veterans.
[QUOTE=mgftp;1635065363]Just LoL@ being anti-vax in 2021.
Anti-vax, flat-earthers, fake moon landing. Human race is getting dumber.[/QUOTE]
There's a difference between being anti-vax and waiting to avoid another Cutter incident like with polio.
[QUOTE=eomrat;1635066823]Yes. I am aware that the Germans made people carry ID cards. Everyone is aware of that. Now, explain how the American soldiers in Germany were able to determine which Germans were asking folks for their ID cards? Or were the Germans in France asking American GI's for their ID's during combat?[/quote]
Are you being deliberately obtuse, or do you not realize he just meant Nazis in general?
[Quote]We did not get Anthrax vaccine before the Gulf War. The Anthrax Vaccine Immunization Program did not start until 1999.
You can brush up on your own alleged history here:
[url]https://www.cdc.gov/anthrax/resources/anthrax-vaccine-research.html[/url]
You like to tell stories.[/QUOTE]
Gulf War syndrome also applies to OIF/OEF veterans. As an OIF veteran who has had the anthrax series twice and is currently going through the VA to obtain a disability claim for symptoms covered under Gulf War syndrome, I'd recommend doing your research before inserting your two IQ points.
[url]https://www.publichealth.va.gov/exposures/gulfwar/medically-unexplained-illness.asp[/url]
[QUOTE=GrouchyUSMC;1635069213]Are you being deliberately obtuse, or do you not realize he just meant Nazis in general?
Gulf War syndrome also applies to OIF/OEF veterans. As an OIF veteran who has had the anthrax series twice and is currently going through the VA to obtain a disability claim for symptoms covered under Gulf War syndrome, I'd recommend doing your research before inserting your two IQ points.
[url]https://www.publichealth.va.gov/exposures/gulfwar/medically-unexplained-illness.asp[/url][/QUOTE]
Right on. Good luck to you.
[QUOTE=GrouchyUSMC;1635064003]I admire your attempt to appear completely oblivious to what he actually means. Great trolling.[/QUOTE]
No, I have no idea what he means. As eomrat says, the ID cards we all know about, it's the shooting Nazis for making people carry the cards that we are confused about. As for "nazis in general", are y'all saying that World War II was fought because of the ID cards? Seems like there were other things Nazis did that might have had an impact. Like invading Pearl Harbor as Senator Blutarsky would say. Nazis are bad, freedom is good, we all agree. But that specific thing made no sense.
Oh, and did you even read your own link?
"The first large-scale use of the vaccine to give preexposure protection was in 1991 for US military personnel deployed during the Persian Gulf War."
So your own link proves you are wrong. In fact, about 150,000 troops going to the Persian Gulf received it.
[url]https://www.publichealth.va.gov/exposures/gulfwar/sources/vaccinations.asp[/url]
[QUOTE=Gabbar99;1635070273]No, I have no idea what he means. As eomrat says, the ID cards we all know about, it's the shooting Nazis for making people carry the cards that we are confused about. As for "nazis in general", are y'all saying that World War II was fought because of the ID cards? Seems like there were other things Nazis did that might have had an impact. Like invading Pearl Harbor as Senator Blutarsky would say. Nazis are bad, freedomX is good, we all agree. But that specific thing made no sense.[/QUOTE]
Pretty sure he's implying the whole fascist oppression thing they had going on.
Nazi Germany invaded Pearl Harbor?
Nearly posted an intentionally/ironically wrong comment (accuracy of information) that Nazis invented 7up, but then thought it would probably be taken seriously and people would "correct" me
[QUOTE=mgftp;1635065363]Just LoL@ being anti-vax in 2021.
Human race is getting dumber.[/QUOTE]
The fact that we actually having to go thru this in 2020-21 proves the stupidity of the current human race.
And that many who aren’t vaxed does not mean they are anti vax shows your stupidity.
This is not the plague where everyone is guaranteed a death sentence and it’s not “lock jaw”.
I actually feel I’ve been a Team Player in this because I had access to vax very early but because I work remote and I’m not in the elderly category passed on it, my intelligence knows that once the vulnerable are vaxed this political panic should be over with.
PS I watched Pres Biden touch is mask about a half dozen times to speak one sentence.
No masks = I don’t touch my mouth/drewl then go touch something someone else touches. It pays to be smart!
[QUOTE=LWW;1635073073]
It pays to be smart![/QUOTE]
Absolutely.
Problem is nuthugging gubmint statists are not very smart. They are dumber than worms for believing gubmint is their savior.
But you already know that.
[QUOTE=GrouchyUSMC;1635070513]Nazi Germany invaded Pearl Harbor?[/QUOTE]
Are you too young to be familiar with Senator Blutarsky?
[QUOTE=Gabbar99;1635076173]Are you too young to be familiar with Senator Blutarsky?[/QUOTE] ha ha :) just Googled it, I'd missed the reference completely
(on spread)
[QUOTE=OldFartTom;1635071283]Nearly posted an intentionally/ironically wrong comment (accuracy of information) that Nazis invented 7up, but then thought it would probably be taken seriously and people would "correct" me[/QUOTE]
German Fanta is much, much better than American Fanta. I think it is still made with sugar.
[QUOTE=Gabbar99;1635076173]Are you too young to be familiar with Senator Blutarsky?[/QUOTE]
Zero point zero!
[QUOTE=OldFartTom;1635076483]ha ha :) just Googled it, I'd missed the reference completely
(on spread)[/QUOTE]
Admittedly I did too until he said Blutarsky again.
[QUOTE=mgftp;1635065363]Just LoL@ being anti-vax in 2021.
Anti-vax, flat-earthers, fake moon landing. Human race is getting dumber.[/QUOTE]
You're going to sign for the microchip tracker too?
[QUOTE=MinisterOfLust;1635095943]You're going to sign for the microchip tracker too?[/QUOTE]
I think that was already included in his smartphone's OS TOS, but it's fun to reminisce on the old days when we felt like we kinda knew WTF was going on. :)
[QUOTE=MinisterOfLust;1635095943]You're going to sign for the microchip tracker too?[/QUOTE]
If you do, make sure to get the Apple one, it has rounded corners so it doesn't hurt your blood cells as much.
2nd Moderna dose today. Young cop at the door "welcoming" everyone, was a little intimidating. Vaccinator said "no problem finding a muscle here!" I was too nervous to take it as a compliment or whatever. She did it in the shoulder, I feel like last time it was more like my tricep. I hit the gym an hour later for leg day but did shoulders instead, 15 sets got the blood pumping through them pretty good. Got home and cracked a beer, got dizzy and almost fell down, had a good dinner and now just some injection site pain.
Guess I'm good until the Fall.
In retrospect I wouldn't have done this if my Wife didn't insist on it.
My vaxxinator didn't say nothing about my muscles. :(
No fair!
[QUOTE=Cass40;1635216353]My vaxxinator didn't say nothing about my muscles. :(
No fair![/QUOTE]
Did you flex?
[QUOTE=ChazWood;1635216503]Did you flex?[/QUOTE]
Yes. :(
[QUOTE=Cass40;1635216603]Yes. :([/QUOTE]
oh damn. did they ask what you were doing?
[QUOTE=ChazWood;1635216673]oh damn. did they ask what you were doing?[/QUOTE]
Naa..not before I started flexing my legs.
[QUOTE=Cass40;1635217103]Naa..not before I started flexing my legs.[/QUOTE]
oh damn. I bet they seen some $hit doing all that poking.
EDIT: Do you know who Jake Paul is?
I got both of the Pfizer shots. The only side effect was that my penis grew 3 inches.
Now I'm just praying that if I ever get laid that she can handle the full 6 inches.
BRB...auditioning for a job in pron.
Thanks Obama.
Wife kicking me in bed 2 hours as i lay shivering. On the couch under 5 blankets now. Feels just like a flu coming on.
Party on Garth.
[QUOTE=Bando;1635215753]In retrospect I wouldn't have done this if my Wife didn't insist on it.[/QUOTE]
If you have a good life insurance policy, you might need to be suspicious...
(And I guarantee somebody will not recognize this as a joke.)
[QUOTE=JediRN;1635220833]I got both of the Pfizer shots. The only side effect was that my penis grew 3 inches.
Now I'm just praying that if I ever get laid that she can handle the full 6 inches.
BRB...auditioning for a job in pron.
Thanks Obama.[/QUOTE]
Any feels from shot #2 or was it the same as shot #1?