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[QUOTE=IronCharles;1644456643]One in every five Oregonians who contracted Covid 19 in July were fully vaccinated.
[b][url]https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2021/08/about-1-in-5-oregonians-diagnosed-with-covid-19-in-july-was-fully-vaccinated.html[/url][/b][/QUOTE]
Thanks. Those numbers suggest that vaccination is only 63% effective in preventing infection, but 82% effective in preventing hospitalization or death. Not as good as the previous data check, but still quite strong evidence of the effectiveness of vaccines.
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[QUOTE=Gabbar99;1644504453]Thanks. Those numbers suggest that vaccination is only 63% effective in preventing infection, but 82% effective in preventing hospitalization or death. Not as good as the previous data check, but still quite strong evidence of the effectiveness of vaccines.[/QUOTE]
Especially this far out without boosters and variants rampant. Great data for getting vaxxed.
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"Johnson & Johnson recipients appear to be making up a larger percentage of those hospitalized."
Did you all expect this like i did when they originally posted
Pfizer 95%
Moderna 94%
J+J much lower in the 60% area?
At the time it seemed like common sense to want the extra protection?
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[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1644510833]"Johnson & Johnson recipients appear to be making up a larger percentage of those hospitalized."
Did you all expect this like i did when they originally posted
Pfizer 95%
Moderna 94%
J+J much lower in the 60% area?
At the time it seemed like common sense to want the extra protection?[/QUOTE]
Mostly you're seeing the 1 shot vs 2, but also which strains were prevalent in the locations we enrolled subjects. J&J was pretty close to 1 shot of the others. Pretty good for 1 shot and cross strain protection.
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Got the second shot yesterday..some soreness in the shoulder area but no big deal. Just hoping this will be enough.
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[QUOTE=steffo99;1644520023]Got the second shot yesterday..some soreness in the shoulder area but no big deal. Just hoping this will be enough.[/QUOTE]
Hopefully it is no more than day 2 of doms after a heavy shoulder workout.
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Just came back from a family gathering.
Went in with the mask on. Was lunch/supper/evening together/coffee/dessert kinda deal so spent a lot of time together and was expected to take mask off while eating.
Took mask off for lunch and put back on immediately after.
After a while took it off for dessert and coffee etc and never put back on (forgot about it - got too comfortable). Chit chat bullchit all evening.
Hopefully I’ll make it…we’re all vaccinated with Pfizer…
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One of my buddies has been down with covid and quarantined for 4 days
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Another one of my buddies got covid a few months back from his 11yr old son (son got it from his teacher). He is vaccinated. He got covid again and is recovering but he’s saying this time it took a lot out of him. He’s testing negative for corona but did loose his smell and taste and had bad flu and fever every 3 hours. Says he feels literally weak.
Maybe he has a non corona flu type virus that’s been around. One of the girls at the get together was saying she had the same thing (symptoms but tested negative for corona) last month after she travelled.
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[QUOTE=TryingBB;1644539653]Just came back from a family gathering.
Went in with the mask on. Was lunch/supper/evening together/coffee/dessert kinda deal so spent a lot of time together and was expected to take mask off while eating.
Took mask off for lunch and put back on immediately after.
After a while took it off for dessert and coffee etc and never put back on (forgot about it - got too comfortable). Chit chat bullchit all evening.
Hopefully I’ll make it…we’re all vaccinated with Pfizer…
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One of my buddies has been down with covid and quarantined for 4 days
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Another one of my buddies got covid a few months back from his 11yr old son (son got it from his teacher). He is vaccinated. He got covid again and is recovering but he’s saying this time it took a lot out of him. He’s testing negative for corona but did loose his smell and taste and had bad flu and fever every 3 hours. Says he feels literally weak.
Maybe he has a non corona flu type virus that’s been around. One of the girls at the get together was saying she had the same thing (symptoms but tested negative for corona) last month after she travelled.[/QUOTE]
You're not doing yourself any good stressing out like this.
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[QUOTE=TolerantLactose;1644540333]You're not doing yourself any good stressing out like this.[/QUOTE]
Thinking about just the brunch … ain’t really stressed.
Sharing about my buddies cuz yea it’s getting to people I know directly. Too many of them. Wasn’t the case up until recently. It was one off here and there and acquaintances etc or know someone who knows someone. But recently ours people I directly know myself personally.
Made up my mind is gonna be like this…keep mask up as much as possible and keep marching
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[b]A 42-year-old fitness fanatic was 'beating himself up' over his decision not to get vaccinated during his final days, his family said[/b]
A 42-year-old British man who loved exercise and eating healthy died of COVID-19 last week.
John Eyers didn't get vaccinated because he "felt that he would be ok," his family said.
The father-of-one told doctors in his final days that he regretted his decision not to get a vaccine.
An unvaccinated 42-year-old fitness fanatic who regularly climbed mountains and competed in the ironman has died of COVID-19, his family said.
John Eyers, a construction expert and bodybuilding competitor from the seaside town of Southport, England, died last week, one month after catching the virus.
The father-of-one was a "healthy" and "very active" person who was climbing mountains and camping in the wilderness just four weeks before he got sick, his twin sister, Jenny McCann, said on Twitter.
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[QUOTE=mtpockets;1644559413][b]A 42-year-old fitness fanatic was 'beating himself up' over his decision not to get vaccinated during his final days, his family said[/b]
A 42-year-old British man who loved exercise and eating healthy died of COVID-19 last week.
John Eyers didn't get vaccinated because he "felt that he would be ok," his family said.
The father-of-one told doctors in his final days that he regretted his decision not to get a vaccine.
An unvaccinated 42-year-old fitness fanatic who regularly climbed mountains and competed in the ironman has died of COVID-19, his family said.
John Eyers, a construction expert and bodybuilding competitor from the seaside town of Southport, England, died last week, one month after catching the virus.
The father-of-one was a "healthy" and "very active" person who was climbing mountains and camping in the wilderness just four weeks before he got sick, his twin sister, Jenny McCann, said on Twitter.[/QUOTE]
I have plenty of regrets in life but I can't imagine being on my death bed with Covid after passing on the vaccine.
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[QUOTE=mtpockets;1644559413][b]A 42-year-old fitness fanatic was 'beating himself up' over his decision not to get vaccinated during his final days, his family said[/b]
A 42-year-old British man who loved exercise and eating healthy died of COVID-19 last week.
John Eyers didn't get vaccinated because he "felt that he would be ok," his family said.
The father-of-one told doctors in his final days that he regretted his decision not to get a vaccine.
An unvaccinated 42-year-old fitness fanatic who regularly climbed mountains and competed in the ironman has died of COVID-19, his family said.
John Eyers, a construction expert and bodybuilding competitor from the seaside town of Southport, England, died last week, one month after catching the virus.
The father-of-one was a "healthy" and "very active" person who was climbing mountains and camping in the wilderness just four weeks before he got sick, his twin sister, Jenny McCann, said on Twitter.[/QUOTE]
There are stories like this every day in many news publications where folks regret their decisions while dying. It is so sad to read because they are all ages, races, sexes, and conditions. It is no longer just "fat old people"
Maybe it bugs me because it seems like common sense.
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[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1644566943]There are stories like this every day in many news publications where folks regret their decisions while dying. It is so sad to read because they are all ages, races, sexes, and conditions. It is no longer just "fat old people"
Maybe it bugs me because it seems like common sense.[/QUOTE]
Yep
Right-wing radio host Dick Farrel died of COVID-19 at age 65.
Farrel claimed the pandemic was a hoax and urged people to skip the vaccine. After contracting the virus, he started pleading for others to get the shot.
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The CDC has updated it's breakthrough case data. As of August 2 out of more than 164 million people fully vaccinated.
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[url]https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html[/url]
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[QUOTE=mtpockets;1644584553]The CDC has updated it's breakthrough case data. As of August 2 out of more than 164 million people fully vaccinated.
[img]https://i.imgur.com/sNkUaSS.png?1[/img]
[url]https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html[/url][/QUOTE]
That seems strange to not care about mild cases in vaccinated people, but care about them for unvaccinated. Especially considering they are able to transmit virus the same. I'd think it would be wise to track metrics of both vaccinated and unvaccinated people the same way to further demonstrate the efficacy of the vaccines. It's almost as if some of these decisions are intended to obfuscate the data/information available to the public.
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Schools are about to open
Mask mandates and vaccines mandates were banned to make one side happy
Now that schools are opening many schools districts are not obliging with the mask mandate ban
Stores of people getting covid and regretting not getting vaccine are at an all time high.
Full on push imo to get people to vaccinated cuz people have been dying all this time. It just didn’t start in the last two to three weeks…
I hope this is the solution (seems like it) and the right thing to do. Only time will tell for sure
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There should be no mask mandate for children, period. My son is about to enter a state college in Massachusetts in 3 weeks. I'm awaiting the overreaching lockdown of the students and wearing masks 100% of the time. He was forced to be vaccinated in order to attend, which, I'm kind of upset about because I'm worried about the reproductive system with the vaccine.
I'm tired of all this BS urging people to get it. If you want to, great, if you don't that's fine too. It doesn't make you selfish or going to kill your parents. Your body, your choice.
Paul McCartney put out a "get vaxed" social media post. Here's a guy who was perpetually stoned for a half century trying to tell me what to do.
As they say in New Hampshire. "Live free or die." Leave people alone and mind their own business.
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So what is the over 35 section record for the post with the most pages?
Anyone, Buller?
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[QUOTE=AlBHappy;1644637663]There should be no mask mandate for children, period. My son is about to enter a state college in Massachusetts in 3 weeks. I'm awaiting the overreaching lockdown of the students and wearing masks 100% of the time. He was forced to be vaccinated in order to attend, which, I'm kind of upset about because I'm worried about the reproductive system with the vaccine.
I'm tired of all this BS urging people to get it. If you want to, great, if you don't that's fine too. It doesn't make you selfish or going to kill your parents. Your body, your choice.
Paul McCartney put out a "get vaxed" social media post. Here's a guy who was perpetually stoned for a half century trying to tell me what to do.
As they say in New Hampshire. "Live free or die." Leave people alone and mind their own business.[/QUOTE]
Hopefully he did the right thing and got a fake vaccine card. I know a few women that are worried about the fertility issue so they faked the vaccine to keep their jobs.
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[QUOTE=mtpockets;1644584553]The CDC has updated it's breakthrough case data. As of August 2 out of more than 164 million people fully vaccinated.
[img]https://i.imgur.com/sNkUaSS.png?1[/img]
[url]https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html[/url][/QUOTE]
So according to this (which like any other "data" I take by now I take with large helpings of salt), 0.0046% of vaccinated were hospitalized and/or died. And this is a catastrophe that warrants masks and proof of vaccination everywhere, and emergency measures, and the like... how? Pretty sure the regular flu has worse numbers than this.
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[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1644640373]So what is the over 35 section record for the post with the most pages?
Anyone, Buller?[/QUOTE]Gotta be the Dat Ass Thread
God bless IronCharles and the gang for the efforts
Ben, I think that you like a little HTC right?
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I don't like that they took the "who posted" feature out. :(
I'm pretty sure it's still LWW, MtPockets, and Casserole40 -show.
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[QUOTE=deadwoodgregg;1644645203]Gotta be the Dat Ass Thread
God bless IronCharles and the gang for the efforts
Ben, I think that you like a little HTC right?
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Why yes and thanks!
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A friend of mine stopped by for coffee, while she was here the dental office called her to schedule an appointment. She asked the vaccination status of the staff, they declined to answer and she told them to shove the appointment up their ass..
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[QUOTE=mtpockets;1644666873]A friend of mine stopped by for coffee, while she was here the dental office called her to schedule an appointment. She asked the vaccination status of the staff, they declined to answer and she told them to shove the appointment up their ass..[/QUOTE]
That’ll teach em. They will be begging for her business back and she can just give them a toothless periodontitis smile and say “you made your choice”. :p
I can’t imagine you live in a high vaccination rate area in general. It seems rural areas, despite having lower hospital surge capacities or even easy access to medical care, are lagging in vaccination. She has the right to ask, just as they have a right to give a non-answer.
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[QUOTE=Plateauplower;1644667603]That’ll teach em. They will be begging for her business back and she can just give them a toothless periodontitis smile and say “you made your choice”. :p
I can’t imagine you live in a high vaccination rate area in general. It seems rural areas, despite having lower hospital surge capacities or even easy access to medical care, are lagging in vaccination. She has the right to ask, just as they have a right to give a non-answer.[/QUOTE]
She is young, will have her teeth for a bit yet lol, early 50's, spent a career as a Lawyer and then a judge in the city, she moved to the country to retire and spend her time homesteading. So she is a stickler for rules lol She promptly called another dental clinic in a nearby town and they told her that all staff had been vacinated.
She queried them on whether or not patients had to be vaccinated and they said they prefer that patients are, but would not turn anyone away.
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[QUOTE=mtpockets;1644668403]She is young, will have her teeth for a bit yet lol, early 50's, spent a career as a Lawyer and then a judge in the city, she moved to the country to retire and spend her time homesteading. So she is a stickler for rules lol She promptly called another dental clinic in a nearby town and they told her that all staff had been vacinated.
She queried them on whether or not patients had to be vaccinated and they said they prefer that patients are, but would not turn anyone away.[/QUOTE]
Liberal judges SMH :D kidding. I know a couple of former judges, both are scary smart. They learn a lot of $hit sitting on the bench listening to attorneys and subject matter experts. Good on the place for not just lying and saying sure everyone’s vaccinated. I think an employer would need to be pretty careful divulging staff’s personal medical information. Having a mandate for employees is one thing, but divulging such info w/out consent could end poorly for them. “Well everyone except that bastard who’s allergic to the vaccine or that bible thumper who believes gods gonna save them from the plague” lol. Given the many other communicable maladies it would be a long list to cover everything before setting up a cleaning. “Will my hygienist be free of genital warts, and am I allowed to visually/physically verify prior to the cleaning?”
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[QUOTE=Plateauplower;1644671233]Liberal judges SMH :D kidding. I know a couple of former judges, both are scary smart. They learn a lot of $hit sitting on the bench listening to attorneys and subject matter experts. Good on the place for not just lying and saying sure everyone’s vaccinated. I think an employer would need to be pretty careful divulging staff’s personal medical information. Having a mandate for employees is one thing, but divulging such info w/out consent could end poorly for them. “Well everyone except that bastard who’s allergic to the vaccine or that bible thumper who believes gods gonna save them from the plague” lol. Given the many other communicable maladies it would be a long list to cover everything before setting up a cleaning. “Will my hygienist be free of genital warts, and am I allowed to visually/physically verify prior to the cleaning?”[/QUOTE]
Oh she is a very intelligent lady that's for sure.
It's one big can of worms with so many loose ends.. Do you want someone leaning over you digging in your mouth, that isin't vaccinated and has been seeing unvaccinated patients? It's one thing to get a haircut or nails done for the ladies, but dental workers are right there in your open yap lol
I mean you are paying for a service and taking a risk, shouldn't you know the vaccination status of the staff? I think my friend did the right thing. I most likely would have done the same thing.
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