Will you get vaccinated?

[QUOTE=_zman;1644401133]I see people put the masks on at the door and just take them off after. People will try to police you but they can't really do chit about it. Costco might be the only place where an employee might ask you to leave.



Get the vax or leave your place of employment. Get the vax or you're not allowed to go to the gym, entertainment, or shop for food.

How is that not a mandate/mandatory?

[b]Not to mention the vax might be doing more harm than good because of accelerated mutation. Studies are showing this to be true. So vaxers are actually causing more harm than unvaxed.[/b][/QUOTE]


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They missed

“-to the vaxxed are killing the unvaxxed”

This is going to be a very long never ending thing. We’re just gonna have to accept this as the new normal and keep marching I think. There is no way pleasing 7,874,965,825 (world population 2021) people and bringing them to the same page - and who knows even if the “page” is the right page or not.

I’ve about had enough of this fuking crap and started to loose my chit

[QUOTE=TryingBB;1644444723]They missed

“-to the vaxxed are killing the unvaxxed”

This is going to be a very long never ending thing. We’re just gonna have to accept this as the new normal and keep marching I think. There is no way pleasing 7,874,965,825 (world population 2021) people and bringing them to the same page - and who knows even if the “page” is the right page or not.

I’ve about had enough of this fuking crap and started to loose my chit[/QUOTE]

The socialists Only need fool the people that Covid is going to go away as long as it takes to accomplish socialism/communism. That’s when all hell will break loose.

[QUOTE=Kraken;1644445083]The socialists Only need fool the people that Covid is going to go away as long as it takes to accomplish socialism/communism. That’s when all hell will break loose.[/QUOTE]

This is exactly the type of stuff I’m talking about…never ending opinions and so called “agendas”

With the 1918 Pandemic, from the time it showed up, went thru several waves and was no longer in the news was like 3-4 years, we still have a ways to go vaccine or not, its time we just got on with life. (Im double vacced...phizer...and will take any booster if it comes out)

One in every five Oregonians who contracted Covid 19 in July were fully vaccinated.


[b][url]https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2021/08/about-1-in-5-oregonians-diagnosed-with-covid-19-in-july-was-fully-vaccinated.html[/url][/b]

[QUOTE=IronCharles;1644456643]One in every five Oregonians who contracted Covid 19 in July were fully vaccinated.


[b][url]https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2021/08/about-1-in-5-oregonians-diagnosed-with-covid-19-in-july-was-fully-vaccinated.html[/url][/b][/QUOTE]




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UGH!
Masks required at the gym again, it was torture squatting and trying to breathe today!
Recovery between sets also takes longer while trying to get in Oxygen.
Just when i was really enjoying it, they pull this.

[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1644467143]UGH!
Masks required at the gym again, it was torture squatting and trying to breathe today!
Recovery between sets also takes longer while trying to get in Oxygen.
Just when i was really enjoying it, they pull this.[/QUOTE]



In MD? what gym is this?

Well, damn, that sucks, but fyi all fuking around aside, if you ever stopped in you know where I train, no masks required there.

[QUOTE=IronCharles;1644456643]One in every five Oregonians who contracted Covid 19 in July were fully vaccinated.


[b][url]https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2021/08/about-1-in-5-oregonians-diagnosed-with-covid-19-in-july-was-fully-vaccinated.html[/url][/b][/QUOTE]

Good info thanks much, lots of detail in that report.

[url]https://www.oregon.gov/oha/covid19/Documents/DataReports/Breakthrough-Report-08-2021.pdf[/url]

[QUOTE=LWW;1644487653]In MD? what gym is this?

Well, damn, that sucks, but fyi all fuking around aside, if you ever stopped in you know where I train, no masks required there.[/QUOTE]

DC an MD

[QUOTE=IronCharles;1644456643]One in every five Oregonians who contracted Covid 19 in July were fully vaccinated.


[b][url]https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2021/08/about-1-in-5-oregonians-diagnosed-with-covid-19-in-july-was-fully-vaccinated.html[/url][/b][/QUOTE]

Thanks. Those numbers suggest that vaccination is only 63% effective in preventing infection, but 82% effective in preventing hospitalization or death. Not as good as the previous data check, but still quite strong evidence of the effectiveness of vaccines.

[QUOTE=Gabbar99;1644504453]Thanks. Those numbers suggest that vaccination is only 63% effective in preventing infection, but 82% effective in preventing hospitalization or death. Not as good as the previous data check, but still quite strong evidence of the effectiveness of vaccines.[/QUOTE]

Especially this far out without boosters and variants rampant. Great data for getting vaxxed.

"Johnson & Johnson recipients appear to be making up a larger percentage of those hospitalized."
Did you all expect this like i did when they originally posted
Pfizer 95%
Moderna 94%
J+J much lower in the 60% area?
At the time it seemed like common sense to want the extra protection?

[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1644510833]"Johnson & Johnson recipients appear to be making up a larger percentage of those hospitalized."
Did you all expect this like i did when they originally posted
Pfizer 95%
Moderna 94%
J+J much lower in the 60% area?
At the time it seemed like common sense to want the extra protection?[/QUOTE]

Mostly you're seeing the 1 shot vs 2, but also which strains were prevalent in the locations we enrolled subjects. J&J was pretty close to 1 shot of the others. Pretty good for 1 shot and cross strain protection.

Got the second shot yesterday..some soreness in the shoulder area but no big deal. Just hoping this will be enough.

[QUOTE=steffo99;1644520023]Got the second shot yesterday..some soreness in the shoulder area but no big deal. Just hoping this will be enough.[/QUOTE]

Hopefully it is no more than day 2 of doms after a heavy shoulder workout.

Just came back from a family gathering.

Went in with the mask on. Was lunch/supper/evening together/coffee/dessert kinda deal so spent a lot of time together and was expected to take mask off while eating.

Took mask off for lunch and put back on immediately after.
After a while took it off for dessert and coffee etc and never put back on (forgot about it - got too comfortable). Chit chat bullchit all evening.

Hopefully I’ll make it…we’re all vaccinated with Pfizer…

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One of my buddies has been down with covid and quarantined for 4 days


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Another one of my buddies got covid a few months back from his 11yr old son (son got it from his teacher). He is vaccinated. He got covid again and is recovering but he’s saying this time it took a lot out of him. He’s testing negative for corona but did loose his smell and taste and had bad flu and fever every 3 hours. Says he feels literally weak.

Maybe he has a non corona flu type virus that’s been around. One of the girls at the get together was saying she had the same thing (symptoms but tested negative for corona) last month after she travelled.

[QUOTE=TryingBB;1644539653]Just came back from a family gathering.

Went in with the mask on. Was lunch/supper/evening together/coffee/dessert kinda deal so spent a lot of time together and was expected to take mask off while eating.

Took mask off for lunch and put back on immediately after.
After a while took it off for dessert and coffee etc and never put back on (forgot about it - got too comfortable). Chit chat bullchit all evening.

Hopefully I’ll make it…we’re all vaccinated with Pfizer…

****

One of my buddies has been down with covid and quarantined for 4 days


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Another one of my buddies got covid a few months back from his 11yr old son (son got it from his teacher). He is vaccinated. He got covid again and is recovering but he’s saying this time it took a lot out of him. He’s testing negative for corona but did loose his smell and taste and had bad flu and fever every 3 hours. Says he feels literally weak.

Maybe he has a non corona flu type virus that’s been around. One of the girls at the get together was saying she had the same thing (symptoms but tested negative for corona) last month after she travelled.[/QUOTE]

You're not doing yourself any good stressing out like this.

[QUOTE=TolerantLactose;1644540333]You're not doing yourself any good stressing out like this.[/QUOTE]

Thinking about just the brunch … ain’t really stressed.

Sharing about my buddies cuz yea it’s getting to people I know directly. Too many of them. Wasn’t the case up until recently. It was one off here and there and acquaintances etc or know someone who knows someone. But recently ours people I directly know myself personally.

Made up my mind is gonna be like this…keep mask up as much as possible and keep marching

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[b]A 42-year-old fitness fanatic was 'beating himself up' over his decision not to get vaccinated during his final days, his family said[/b]


A 42-year-old British man who loved exercise and eating healthy died of COVID-19 last week.

John Eyers didn't get vaccinated because he "felt that he would be ok," his family said.

The father-of-one told doctors in his final days that he regretted his decision not to get a vaccine.



An unvaccinated 42-year-old fitness fanatic who regularly climbed mountains and competed in the ironman has died of COVID-19, his family said.

John Eyers, a construction expert and bodybuilding competitor from the seaside town of Southport, England, died last week, one month after catching the virus.

The father-of-one was a "healthy" and "very active" person who was climbing mountains and camping in the wilderness just four weeks before he got sick, his twin sister, Jenny McCann, said on Twitter.

[QUOTE=mtpockets;1644559413][b]A 42-year-old fitness fanatic was 'beating himself up' over his decision not to get vaccinated during his final days, his family said[/b]


A 42-year-old British man who loved exercise and eating healthy died of COVID-19 last week.

John Eyers didn't get vaccinated because he "felt that he would be ok," his family said.

The father-of-one told doctors in his final days that he regretted his decision not to get a vaccine.



An unvaccinated 42-year-old fitness fanatic who regularly climbed mountains and competed in the ironman has died of COVID-19, his family said.

John Eyers, a construction expert and bodybuilding competitor from the seaside town of Southport, England, died last week, one month after catching the virus.

The father-of-one was a "healthy" and "very active" person who was climbing mountains and camping in the wilderness just four weeks before he got sick, his twin sister, Jenny McCann, said on Twitter.[/QUOTE]

I have plenty of regrets in life but I can't imagine being on my death bed with Covid after passing on the vaccine.

[QUOTE=mtpockets;1644559413][b]A 42-year-old fitness fanatic was 'beating himself up' over his decision not to get vaccinated during his final days, his family said[/b]


A 42-year-old British man who loved exercise and eating healthy died of COVID-19 last week.

John Eyers didn't get vaccinated because he "felt that he would be ok," his family said.

The father-of-one told doctors in his final days that he regretted his decision not to get a vaccine.



An unvaccinated 42-year-old fitness fanatic who regularly climbed mountains and competed in the ironman has died of COVID-19, his family said.

John Eyers, a construction expert and bodybuilding competitor from the seaside town of Southport, England, died last week, one month after catching the virus.

The father-of-one was a "healthy" and "very active" person who was climbing mountains and camping in the wilderness just four weeks before he got sick, his twin sister, Jenny McCann, said on Twitter.[/QUOTE]

There are stories like this every day in many news publications where folks regret their decisions while dying. It is so sad to read because they are all ages, races, sexes, and conditions. It is no longer just "fat old people"
Maybe it bugs me because it seems like common sense.

[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1644566943]There are stories like this every day in many news publications where folks regret their decisions while dying. It is so sad to read because they are all ages, races, sexes, and conditions. It is no longer just "fat old people"
Maybe it bugs me because it seems like common sense.[/QUOTE]


Yep


Right-wing radio host Dick Farrel died of COVID-19 at age 65.

Farrel claimed the pandemic was a hoax and urged people to skip the vaccine. After contracting the virus, he started pleading for others to get the shot.

The CDC has updated it's breakthrough case data. As of August 2 out of more than 164 million people fully vaccinated.



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[url]https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html[/url]

[QUOTE=mtpockets;1644584553]The CDC has updated it's breakthrough case data. As of August 2 out of more than 164 million people fully vaccinated.



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[url]https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html[/url][/QUOTE]

That seems strange to not care about mild cases in vaccinated people, but care about them for unvaccinated. Especially considering they are able to transmit virus the same. I'd think it would be wise to track metrics of both vaccinated and unvaccinated people the same way to further demonstrate the efficacy of the vaccines. It's almost as if some of these decisions are intended to obfuscate the data/information available to the public.

Schools are about to open

Mask mandates and vaccines mandates were banned to make one side happy

Now that schools are opening many schools districts are not obliging with the mask mandate ban

Stores of people getting covid and regretting not getting vaccine are at an all time high.

Full on push imo to get people to vaccinated cuz people have been dying all this time. It just didn’t start in the last two to three weeks…

I hope this is the solution (seems like it) and the right thing to do. Only time will tell for sure

There should be no mask mandate for children, period. My son is about to enter a state college in Massachusetts in 3 weeks. I'm awaiting the overreaching lockdown of the students and wearing masks 100% of the time. He was forced to be vaccinated in order to attend, which, I'm kind of upset about because I'm worried about the reproductive system with the vaccine.

I'm tired of all this BS urging people to get it. If you want to, great, if you don't that's fine too. It doesn't make you selfish or going to kill your parents. Your body, your choice.

Paul McCartney put out a "get vaxed" social media post. Here's a guy who was perpetually stoned for a half century trying to tell me what to do.

As they say in New Hampshire. "Live free or die." Leave people alone and mind their own business.

So what is the over 35 section record for the post with the most pages?
Anyone, Buller?

[QUOTE=AlBHappy;1644637663]There should be no mask mandate for children, period. My son is about to enter a state college in Massachusetts in 3 weeks. I'm awaiting the overreaching lockdown of the students and wearing masks 100% of the time. He was forced to be vaccinated in order to attend, which, I'm kind of upset about because I'm worried about the reproductive system with the vaccine.

I'm tired of all this BS urging people to get it. If you want to, great, if you don't that's fine too. It doesn't make you selfish or going to kill your parents. Your body, your choice.

Paul McCartney put out a "get vaxed" social media post. Here's a guy who was perpetually stoned for a half century trying to tell me what to do.

As they say in New Hampshire. "Live free or die." Leave people alone and mind their own business.[/QUOTE]

Hopefully he did the right thing and got a fake vaccine card. I know a few women that are worried about the fertility issue so they faked the vaccine to keep their jobs.

[QUOTE=mtpockets;1644584553]The CDC has updated it's breakthrough case data. As of August 2 out of more than 164 million people fully vaccinated.



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[url]https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html[/url][/QUOTE]

So according to this (which like any other "data" I take by now I take with large helpings of salt), 0.0046% of vaccinated were hospitalized and/or died. And this is a catastrophe that warrants masks and proof of vaccination everywhere, and emergency measures, and the like... how? Pretty sure the regular flu has worse numbers than this.

[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1644640373]So what is the over 35 section record for the post with the most pages?
Anyone, Buller?[/QUOTE]Gotta be the Dat Ass Thread

God bless IronCharles and the gang for the efforts

Ben, I think that you like a little HTC right?


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I don't like that they took the "who posted" feature out. :(

I'm pretty sure it's still LWW, MtPockets, and Casserole40 -show.

[QUOTE=deadwoodgregg;1644645203]Gotta be the Dat Ass Thread






God bless IronCharles and the gang for the efforts

Ben, I think that you like a little HTC right?


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Why yes and thanks!

A friend of mine stopped by for coffee, while she was here the dental office called her to schedule an appointment. She asked the vaccination status of the staff, they declined to answer and she told them to shove the appointment up their ass..

[QUOTE=mtpockets;1644666873]A friend of mine stopped by for coffee, while she was here the dental office called her to schedule an appointment. She asked the vaccination status of the staff, they declined to answer and she told them to shove the appointment up their ass..[/QUOTE]
That’ll teach em. They will be begging for her business back and she can just give them a toothless periodontitis smile and say “you made your choice”. :p

I can’t imagine you live in a high vaccination rate area in general. It seems rural areas, despite having lower hospital surge capacities or even easy access to medical care, are lagging in vaccination. She has the right to ask, just as they have a right to give a non-answer.

[QUOTE=Plateauplower;1644667603]That’ll teach em. They will be begging for her business back and she can just give them a toothless periodontitis smile and say “you made your choice”. :p

I can’t imagine you live in a high vaccination rate area in general. It seems rural areas, despite having lower hospital surge capacities or even easy access to medical care, are lagging in vaccination. She has the right to ask, just as they have a right to give a non-answer.[/QUOTE]


She is young, will have her teeth for a bit yet lol, early 50's, spent a career as a Lawyer and then a judge in the city, she moved to the country to retire and spend her time homesteading. So she is a stickler for rules lol She promptly called another dental clinic in a nearby town and they told her that all staff had been vacinated.

She queried them on whether or not patients had to be vaccinated and they said they prefer that patients are, but would not turn anyone away.

[QUOTE=mtpockets;1644668403]She is young, will have her teeth for a bit yet lol, early 50's, spent a career as a Lawyer and then a judge in the city, she moved to the country to retire and spend her time homesteading. So she is a stickler for rules lol She promptly called another dental clinic in a nearby town and they told her that all staff had been vacinated.

She queried them on whether or not patients had to be vaccinated and they said they prefer that patients are, but would not turn anyone away.[/QUOTE]

Liberal judges SMH :D kidding. I know a couple of former judges, both are scary smart. They learn a lot of $hit sitting on the bench listening to attorneys and subject matter experts. Good on the place for not just lying and saying sure everyone’s vaccinated. I think an employer would need to be pretty careful divulging staff’s personal medical information. Having a mandate for employees is one thing, but divulging such info w/out consent could end poorly for them. “Well everyone except that bastard who’s allergic to the vaccine or that bible thumper who believes gods gonna save them from the plague” lol. Given the many other communicable maladies it would be a long list to cover everything before setting up a cleaning. “Will my hygienist be free of genital warts, and am I allowed to visually/physically verify prior to the cleaning?”

[QUOTE=Plateauplower;1644671233]Liberal judges SMH :D kidding. I know a couple of former judges, both are scary smart. They learn a lot of $hit sitting on the bench listening to attorneys and subject matter experts. Good on the place for not just lying and saying sure everyone’s vaccinated. I think an employer would need to be pretty careful divulging staff’s personal medical information. Having a mandate for employees is one thing, but divulging such info w/out consent could end poorly for them. “Well everyone except that bastard who’s allergic to the vaccine or that bible thumper who believes gods gonna save them from the plague” lol. Given the many other communicable maladies it would be a long list to cover everything before setting up a cleaning. “Will my hygienist be free of genital warts, and am I allowed to visually/physically verify prior to the cleaning?”[/QUOTE]


Oh she is a very intelligent lady that's for sure.

It's one big can of worms with so many loose ends.. Do you want someone leaning over you digging in your mouth, that isin't vaccinated and has been seeing unvaccinated patients? It's one thing to get a haircut or nails done for the ladies, but dental workers are right there in your open yap lol

I mean you are paying for a service and taking a risk, shouldn't you know the vaccination status of the staff? I think my friend did the right thing. I most likely would have done the same thing.

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[QUOTE=mtpockets;1644672273]Oh she is a very intelligent lady that's for sure.

It's one big can of worms with so many loose ends.. [b]Do you want someone leaning over you digging in your mouth, that isin't vaccinated and has been seeing unvaccinated patients? [/b] It's one thing to get a haircut or nails done for the ladies, but dental workers are right there in your open yap lol

I mean you are paying for a service and taking a risk, shouldn't you know the vaccination status of the staff? I think my friend did the right thing. I most likely would have done the same thing.[/QUOTE]
Personally, it wouldn’t matter to me one bit, because I have zero personal concern for the virus, none. They always wear masks though anyway, and the smart one’s wear a face shield too, so they are not getting chunks of plaque rocketed into their faces (gross).

In reality, sure someone leaning directly over you like that is certainly more “intimate” contact than random passings in a store, but the fact is, if that’s what was required to transmit this virus it wouldn’t have been a big deal or as hard to contain. Now with vaccinated people shown to become infected and shed just as much virus as unvaccinated, it’s still kind of a crapshoot. Need robot hygienist, or a water-pick some scalers and just DIY dentistry. Elective stuff is easy to navigate, first responders (police, fire, EMTs) have really low vaccination rates; don’t have much of choice in pre-screening with them though.

+ Edit to add, had I not had the virus, I would likely have some level of concern, even if I was vaccinated. It still wouldn’t be much based on the demographics of serious outcomes for me, but everyone has different risk tolerances and the fear mongering has been rather intense.

[QUOTE=Plateauplower;1644673553]Personally, it wouldn’t matter to me one bit, because I have zero personal concern for the virus, none. They always wear masks though anyway, and the smart one’s wear a face shield too, so they are not getting chunks of plaque rocketed into their faces (gross).

In reality, sure someone leaning directly over you like that is certainly more “intimate” contact than random passings in a store, but the fact is, if that’s what was required to transmit this virus it wouldn’t have been a big deal or as hard to contain. Now with vaccinated people shown to become infected and shed just as much virus as unvaccinated, it’s still kind of a crapshoot. Need robot hygienist, or a water-pick some scalers and just DIY dentistry. Elective stuff is easy to navigate, first responders (police, fire, EMTs) have really low vaccination rates, don’t have much of choice in pre-screening with them though.[/QUOTE]


All the fire hall staff even the volunteers, cops and paramedics that service the area are all fully vaxed, they were 1st priority next to the vulnerable.

I wouldn't give a sh!t if it was just me either, I am vaxed because I have an elderly friend that visits if it weren't for him I wouldn't even be vaxed. All the precautions I take are so I don't give anything to him, with that said, if I am taking precautions then yes, I want to know the vaccination status of people digging in my yap lol.. My dental clinic is boasting all their staff is vaxed..Even the optometrist in town has a sign all employees vaxed. I think you will be seeing more of this and good on them

[QUOTE=mtpockets;1644674893]All the fire hall staff even the volunteers, cops and paramedics that service the area are all fully vaxed, they were 1st priority next to the vulnerable.

I wouldn't give a sh!t if it was just me either, I am vaxed because I have an elderly friend that visits if it weren't for him I wouldn't even be vaxed. All the precautions I take are so I don't give anything to him, with that said, if I am taking precautions then yes, I want to know the vaccination status of people digging in my yap lol.. My dental clinic is boasting all their staff is vaxed..Even the optomitrist in town has a sign all employees vaxed. I think you will be seeing more of this and good on them[/QUOTE]

I edited my post above. Yeah, there are people who need to be more concerned than others and that’s a fact. That’s good on first responders. Around here in Chicagoland they are not happy with the vaccination status of first responders. Most already had it here though and are now immune. I think Chicago PD lost 5 IIRC, pretty sure there were 3-4 firefighters too. Probably many more in the suburbs I didn’t hear about. Many do not live healthy lifestyles, lot of obesity, stress, and hard livin in those groups around here.

Yeah I won't be checking on people's vaccination status, not going to happen.

Hy to all.

Usual topic around the world 😊

Sooner or late they will force us to get vaccine.

I took Johnson & Johnson 1 dose ttl.

Have a nice day

Stay strong

💪

[QUOTE=Cass40;1644676233]Yeah I won't be checking on people's vaccination status, not going to happen.[/QUOTE]

Soon you won’t have to, perhaps by fall we will have microchips, barcode tattoos or at least wear a big cardboard sign placard displaying our vaccination status. No admission to purchase goods or use the breadlines unless you carry digital passport with our papers as a backup in case our phone batty dies.

[QUOTE=Plateauplower;1644676743]Soon you won’t have to, perhaps by fall we will have microchips, barcode tattoos or at least wear a big cardboard sign placard displaying our vaccination status. No admission to purchase goods or use the breadlines unless you carry digital passport with our papers as a backup in case our phone batty dies.[/QUOTE]

I don't approve tattoos!

[QUOTE=Plateauplower;1644675343]I edited my post above. Yeah, there are people who need to be more concerned than others and that’s a fact. That’s good on first responders. Around here in Chicagoland they are not happy with the vaccination status of first responders. Most already had it here though and are now immune. I think Chicago PD lost 5 IIRC, pretty sure there were 3-4 firefighters too. Probably many more in the suburbs I didn’t hear about. Many do not live healthy lifestyles, lot of obesity, stress, and hard livin in those groups around here.[/QUOTE]


Ok, I see the edit now, I am slow lol

Yeah, kudos to the first responders, part of being rural. They rally and support the community and the community really backs them up. I think seeing them roll up their sleeves at the outset paved the way for most to get vaccinated. Like they say, lead by example.

The thing is, in our region which is very vast, there has only been a couple of hundred cases since the pandemic started. since the middle of june there has only been 2 cases and that was outsiders visiting.

[QUOTE=Cass40;1644677043]I don't approve tattoos![/QUOTE]

You will wear your penis shaped forehead barcode tattoo and you will like it. It’s for everyone’s protection, and it’s scienced out already, it’s what’s best.

tours over boyos.... DOD mandated vaccines..... fuark..... was only 2.6yrs from 20, almost made it