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yes did Johnson & Johnson, no side effects, feel good.
[QUOTE=Lastochkin;1640587123]yes did Johnson & Johnson, no side effects, feel good.[/QUOTE]
How much bigger did your penis get?
[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1640581803]So for the first time in life I went to get the free doughnut from Krispy Creme last week. The doughnut was way too sweet and felt like it was attacking my teeth and the lines were freaking insane.
What they failed to tell you, is that it was also national doughnut day so a free doughnut was going to be handed out to any one that wanted one that day anyway. And btw,I did not see 1 card presented to the staff while waiting in line.[/QUOTE]
Bennie, you never said thanks for inviting for Saturday strongman?
As for your post, I wonder what the great food expert sparticous that guy who ran for pres. would think about a free doughnut, me thinks he would promote it for vaccine, yes to doughnuts, no to those horrible American eggs.
Gotta wonder about this new change going on?
[QUOTE=LWW;1640589343]Bennie, you never said thanks for inviting for Saturday strongman?
As for your post, I wonder what the great food expert sparticous that guy who ran for pres. would think about a free doughnut, me thinks he would promote it for vaccine, yes to doughnuts, no to those horrible American eggs.
Gotta wonder about this new change going on?[/QUOTE]
Missed it.
The entire weekend has work and live baseball games in a full stadium.
[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1640590153]Missed it.
The entire weekend has work and live baseball games in a full stadium.[/QUOTE]
Ben that’s fine, BKC will be around, I may not even make it this weekend because I’m moving, as long as everything goes good, I will.
I go there every Saturday I can, so one day...............
It’s really best to wait till summers over, the guy does not use AC we will get a much better workout in cooler temps.
[QUOTE=JustTheDad;1640432483]Not sure what you're asking. Clearly it's still going to spread well among kids and anti-vaccine/anti-mask populations, but we're down to about 14 thousand new cases a day which sure beats 200 thousand new cases a day.[/QUOTE]
There have been very very few serious cases in children so it’s really a nonissue. In terms of them being vectors, if people are concerned they can get vaccinated and be protected right?
[QUOTE=Plateauplower;1640619603]There have been very very few serious cases in children so it’s really a nonissue. In terms of them being vectors, if people are concerned they can get vaccinated and be protected right?[/QUOTE]
I agree. MIS-C is rare, so kids are primarily vectors.
That said, SARS cov2 is is still spreading. It's just spreading slower because a lot of people have been vaccinated.
German vaccine advisory committee now recommends only children with pre-existing conditions that may put them at risk if they catch covid be vaccinated. Looks like in that age group the risks of the vaccine is worse than the risk of catching covid.
[url]https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2021-06-10/german-panel-gives-limited-approval-for-covid-19-shot-for-adolescents[/url]
The Italian government said on Friday it was restricting the use of the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine to people over the age of 60, after a teenager who had taken the shot died from a blood clot.
Camilla Canepa died on Thursday aged 18 after being given the vaccine on May 25, triggering a storm of controversy in Italy over the Anglo-Swedish brand being given to adults of all ages despite previously-raised medical concerns.
"AstraZeneca will only be used for people over 60," the country's special COVID commissioner Francesco Figliuolo told reporters at a news conference.
[QUOTE=mtpockets;1640664263]The Italian government said on Friday it was restricting the use of the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine to people over the age of 60, after a teenager who had taken the shot died from a blood clot.
Camilla Canepa died on Thursday aged 18 after being given the vaccine on May 25, triggering a storm of controversy in Italy over the Anglo-Swedish brand being given to adults of all ages despite previously-raised medical concerns.
"AstraZeneca will only be used for people over 60," the country's special COVID commissioner Francesco Figliuolo told reporters at a news conference.[/QUOTE]
I never heard positive things about the Astra and one of my friends in Europe was sick for 5 days after her vaccination.
[QUOTE=sy2502;1640660543]German vaccine advisory committee now recommends only children with pre-existing conditions that may put them at risk if they catch covid be vaccinated. Looks like in that age group the risks of the vaccine is worse than the risk of catching covid.
[url]https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2021-06-10/german-panel-gives-limited-approval-for-covid-19-shot-for-adolescents[/url][/QUOTE]
Wonder if this would happen in the US. As a selfish person without kids I hope not. Vaccinate everything that breathes is my motto, lol.
[QUOTE=sy2502;1640660543]German vaccine advisory committee now recommends only children with pre-existing conditions that may put them at risk if they catch covid be vaccinated. Looks like in that age group the risks of the vaccine is worse than the risk of catching covid.
[url]https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2021-06-10/german-panel-gives-limited-approval-for-covid-19-shot-for-adolescents[/url][/QUOTE]
I can't tell from that if they aren't recommending it now due to not having enough vaccine, or if the implication is they don't plan to ever recommend it. It does say they planned to recommend or offer it to kids down to 12 y/o starting this month, but I don't have time to look up the guidance.
Regardless, kids are considered a vulnerable population and almost any significant risk from the vaccine would be too much. Their mortality rate is tiny and the risk of MIS-C is probably only 1 in 100,000. I'm sure they're assessing the data on the potential cardiomyopathy link in teens and any other signals. Nobody wants to recommend vaccinating kids to reduce the risk for adults if we aren't sure it's safe for them!
Off topic, I have to say that I love how so many people are learning about how healthcare recommendations are made and why. After COVID, if we add some courses on micro and macro economics (with a section on comparative advantage), plus a little accounting and finance, we could actually wind up with a population that understands the garbage most of their politicians and media outlets throw at them. Unlikely, but healthcare decision making is a good start.
My wife just got vaccinated because her company told her she has to :(
I am still working from home, wondering if my company is going to do the same if and when they open back up.
[QUOTE=sy2502;1640660543]German vaccine advisory committee now recommends only children with pre-existing conditions that may put them at risk if they catch covid be vaccinated. Looks like in that age group the risks of the vaccine is worse than the risk of catching covid.
[url]https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2021-06-10/german-panel-gives-limited-approval-for-covid-19-shot-for-adolescents[/url][/QUOTE]YouTube recently banned a television news story about this topic. Germany is advising young men ages 12-24 to avoid getting the shots. Young men are developing heart muscle inflammation in numbers higher than anticipated.
As weeks and months pass, we will learn about more 'unanticipated' health complications arising from these shots. Perhaps I'm wrong about this, but I feel pretty confident.
In my company, my partners and I all voted against forced injections. In fact, we decided that it is a breach of a person's right to confidentiality to even inquire as to whether they have gotten the shots.
[QUOTE=KeepItMoving;1640696443]YouTube recently banned a television news story about this topic. Germany is advising young men ages 12-24 to avoid getting the shots. Young men are developing heart muscle inflammation in numbers higher than anticipated.
As weeks and months pass, we will learn about more 'unanticipated' health complications arising from these shots. Perhaps I'm wrong about this, but I feel pretty confident.
In my company, my partners and I all voted against forced injections. In fact, we decided that it is a breach of a person's right to confidentiality to even inquire as to whether they have gotten the shots.[/QUOTE]
Someone forwarded it that story. You know what percentage reported inflamed hearts? It was seriously like 0.0006 percent. Cuz couple hundred out of hundreds of millions got it.
Dunno what to believe anymore. Fkn better not be like asbestos - side effects popping up several years later
[QUOTE=TryingBB;1640707713]Someone forwarded it that story. You know what percentage reported inflamed hearts? It was seriously like 0.0006 percent. Cuz couple hundred out of hundreds of millions got it.
Dunno what to believe anymore. Fkn better not be like asbestos - side effects popping up several years later[/QUOTE]
Were you or a loved one subjected to the mask hysteria of 2020? If so you may be entitled to compensation due to ongoing and lasting effects of oxygen deprivation.
You know its coming along with the lawsuits over the vaccines, going to be huge money in this.
Ain’t putting that poison in me. Spike protein, as I understand it, is the problem.
[QUOTE=illriginalized;1640709463]Ain’t putting that poison in me. Spike protein, as I understand it, is the problem.[/QUOTE]
Can you tell us more?
I know people who were on the fence and now will not get it because of how suspicious they have become over the incentives.
I can’t imagine someone who is on the fence being persuaded to become part of the experiment so they can win a free beer and a doughnut, and an ultra slim chance to win the vax lotto
[QUOTE=TryingBB;1640707713]Someone forwarded it that story. You know what percentage reported inflamed hearts? It was seriously like 0.0006 percent. Cuz couple hundred out of hundreds of millions got it. [/QUOTE]
The rate of myocarditis from vaccines is low and almost all cases resolve in a week, and it's lower than the rate of myocarditis from the virus, but it is a concern and does need to be checked out.
[QUOTE=illriginalized;1640709463]Ain’t putting that poison in me. Spike protein, as I understand it, is the problem.[/QUOTE]
Nonsense being spread by antivaxxers.
The spike protein on the virus is how your body recognizes the virus and targets its immune response, so the vaccines are designed to trigger that, but it's not a "problem".
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYdqParWgcA[/url]
[QUOTE=illriginalized;1640709463]Ain’t putting that poison in me. Spike protein, as I understand it, is the problem.[/QUOTE]
A weightlifter who doesn't want protein, lmao!
"In a report submitted today to the Israeli Ministry of Health, they conclude that between one in 3000 and one in 6000 men ages 16 to 24 who received the vaccine developed the rare condition. But most cases were mild and resolved within a few weeks, which is typical for myocarditis. “I can’t imagine it’s going to be anything that would cause medical people to say we shouldn’t vaccinate kids,” says Douglas Diekema, a pediatrician and bioethicist at Seattle Children’s Hospital."
I would much rather take ivermectin vs the vaccine. But big daddy government tells us not to.
I don’t touch majority of SARMs for the one shared reason - not enough studies.
[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1640721373]A weightlifter who doesn't want protein, lmao!
"In a report submitted today to the Israeli Ministry of Health, they conclude that between one in 3000 and one in 6000 men ages 16 to 24 who received the vaccine developed the rare condition. But most cases were mild and resolved within a few weeks, which is typical for myocarditis. “I can’t imagine it’s going to be anything that would cause medical people to say we shouldn’t vaccinate kids,” says Douglas Diekema, a pediatrician and bioethicist at Seattle Children’s Hospital."[/QUOTE]Sure, but we should cancel all sports due to the possibility of enlarged hearts just 9 months ago...
lol, it's just like "kids in cages". It's "OK" now because, well, it's Biden and not Trump.
[QUOTE=CommitmentRulz;1640736373]Sure, but we should cancel all sports due to the possibility of enlarged hearts just 9 months ago...
lol, it's just like "kids in cages". It's "OK" now because, well, it's Biden and not Trump.[/QUOTE]
I do NOT AGREE.
Not sure what your *enlarged hearts 9 months ago* means.
Is that an inside joke between you and yourself?
[QUOTE=JustTheDad;1640657963]I agree. MIS-C is rare, so kids are primarily vectors.
That said, SARS cov2 is is still spreading. It's just spreading slower because a lot of people have been vaccinated.[/QUOTE]
But again, vaccines are widely available for people who would benefit from them, or are concerned about the virus. Obesity is killing far more on the daily than covid is at this point so perhaps that should be the focus. Instead it seems many in the medical community (specifically those who benefit financially from vaccination) are trying to figure out if we can vaccinate infants and small children for a disease that likely causes them less negative effects than the vaccine will. Nothing is without risk, and when it comes to kids and covid I think the risk of vaccination for them is an unnecessary one.
[QUOTE=Gabbar99;1640716763]The rate of myocarditis from vaccines is low and almost all cases resolve in a week, and it's lower than the rate of myocarditis from the virus, but it is a concern and does need to be checked out.[/QUOTE]I understand why you'd raise the statistical insignificance of the occurrence of myocarditis from the shots (I can't bring myself to assault medical terms so blantentley as to call it a vaccine.) After all, this is the same reasonable point raised by people not interested in getting the shots or continuing to shut down their lives, given the relative statistical insignificance of the death rate from COVID-19, PARTICULARLY to those not in a high risk group.
I think most reasonably agree that high risk category people really need to take the concern to heart. Those who are high risk, that can't care or decide for themselves, should be protected by the orders or actions of a third party, perhaps government.
I think we both further agree that these arising health issues really do need to be considered...not ignored by the media and shuffled under the carpet by our power holders in government and medicine (the two seem so connected lateley)
Big tech is censoring information, valid information, that does not fit their narrative. And, if they have a narrative, they have an agenda. It's always done in the interests of our well being, or our safety. Geez, I sure laugh at those people that think big government, or big tech for that matter, is really concerned with their well being or safety. Or, they trust that those people are better to decide the validity of the information on their own minds. After all, big government is their, oftentimes, because we are too stupid or incapable of caring for ourselves.
Information about these shots will, hopefully, get out there. Big tech and government are trying to stop that...why? Why, while they openly steer us/push us towards getting the shots, while we watch society opening all around us. God bless the shot takers; I understand, pretty fully, the reasons for your actions. We are just a few months into these shots. Frankly, I'd like to be about 4-5 years into these shots before I'd decide to get one. I just hope we non shot takers are given the time and information to be able to decide for ourselves. If that doesn't happen, we should all be carrying torches and pitchforks. (Which I say purely as humorous, satirical hyperbole.)
[QUOTE=Plateauplower;1640745683]But again, vaccines are widely available for people who would benefit from them, or are concerned about the virus. Obesity is killing far more on the daily than covid is at this point so perhaps that should be the focus. Instead it seems many in the medical community (specifically those who benefit financially from vaccination) are trying to figure out if we can vaccinate infants and small children for a disease that likely causes them less negative effects than the vaccine will. Nothing is without risk, and when it comes to kids and covid I think the risk of vaccination for them is an unnecessary one.[/QUOTE]
Pretty sure even teenage suicide is a higher toll than Covid death.
There's a movement called "HAEW" (healthy at every weight). Basically they assert 2 things.
1) While you're healthy there is no link to people's weight and incidence of disease and suggestion that there is any medical link between weight and health is both false and descriminatory
2) suggesting that some weight ranges are preferable in any way to others for any reason, e.g. can affect capability of performing a job, is descriminatory
I'd hoped that the huge black cloud that is COVID might bring a small silver lining such as the ability to sensibly discuss obesity and health without HAEW coming out (and claims of discrimination for linking weight and health). At one point I thought COVID was going to be break the HAEW BS, but no it seems that discussing weight/health still isn't popular or acceptable