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[QUOTE=NorwichGrad;1642488763]Great questions. Nobody in the jab community will answer. Why?
Because fear.
and gubmint.
They feared a virus with 99% survival rate. And they trusted gubmint that is notorious for corruption and much death and destruction.
All we can do is wait.
Mark my word. This delta variant they speak of. The unjabbed will be blamed for it. LOL.[/QUOTE]
Local medical company leaders are already blaming the unvaccinated like you say. "Get vaccinated now", is all they say. "Don't bother talking to your doctor whether it's right for you, just get vaccinated." "Do your duty/resonsibility." "Stop being selfish." "Do you want to have summer activities?"
They provide no citations or any good data or studies to back their claims on vaccinations. Total authoritarian mindset. The avg. sheep might do what they say, but if they actually want to reach their vaccination goals, then they better adopt a better approach for the skeptical folks.
In my opinion, the risks of vaccination vs not vaccinating for a healthy individual seems to favor staying unvaccinated. Because it remains a question mark regarding side effects. Along with no FDA approval.
To me, it's not about savings others, it's about mitigating my own risk. If others are at risk then go get vaccinated, wear a mask, stay home. It's not my fault a virus does what a virus does.
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[QUOTE=Plateauplower;1642439373]... My position is anyone who wants it get it. Anyone who doesn’t want it, don’t get it. And both groups shut the fuk up about it ....[/QUOTE]
A fine idea
[QUOTE=Plateauplower;1642439373]I don’t want anyone demanding I get a prostate exam either.[/QUOTE] If they ever do, you should flip them the finger
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[QUOTE=OldFartTom;1642493903]A fine idea
[/QUOTE]
It would be a great idea, yet employers are giving employees an ultimatum.
Kinda hard not to talk something that is effecting a lot of people's livelihoods.
Kinda hard not to talk about government overreach, which has been on slippery slope for several decades.
Kinda hard not to talk about big tech companies silencing the 1st amendment in regards to covid.
Somehow all those shenanigans are related.
If you don't want to discuss it then don't.
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[QUOTE=NorwichGrad;1642488763]Great questions. Nobody in the jab community will answer. Why?
Because fear.
and gubmint.
They feared a virus with 99% survival rate. And they trusted gubmint that is notorious for corruption and much death and destruction.
All we can do is wait.
Mark my word. This delta variant they speak of. The unjabbed will be blamed for it. LOL.[/QUOTE]
I got jabbed but I’m far from the jab community, while no long term effects have hit me it seems this jab a brought out issues in several people I know, reactions they have never had before, all different thit.
Plus our guy Bando lost his eating desire something these fitness queers wish they had, but I’ve NEVER met a true lifter who didn’t love thier food.
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[QUOTE=LWW;1642500883]I got jabbed but I’m far from the jab community, [/QUOTE]
Wrong, you got jabbed, Now you are part of the Jab community. Plain and simple. Let me break it down for you, suck on a dong, you are a dongsucker, drive a truck you are a truck driver..See where I am going with this? The one thing that seperates you from some other jabbed people is some wanted to be jabbed.. You did not want to be jabbed, said you werent't getting jabbed
[QUOTE=LWW;1623480431]No, not even Trumps vaccine, I’ve not been sick free for decades, if it ain’t broke, don’t fix.[/QUOTE]
What seperates you from others that made their own mind up to get jabbed is the fact that you are weak, you caved and did as someone else wanted you to.
With that said, you are still a member of the jabbed community, just on the lower scale, but nonetheless, Welcome homie :D
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I guess JustTheDad got tired of setting stuff straight ITT.
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[QUOTE=mgftp;1642502223]I guess JustTheDad got tired of setting stuff straight ITT.[/QUOTE]
I wonder why a doctor doesn't want to argue all day weeks and months with people citing studies they don't even read or understand or whose education level is level Africa is a country. Sounds so much fun.
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[QUOTE=mtpockets;1642502193]Wrong, you got jabbed, Now you are part of the Jab community. Plain and simple. Let me break it down for you, suck on a dong, you are a dongsucker, drive a truck you are a truck driver..See where I am going with this? The one thing that seperates you from some other jabbed people is some wanted to be jabbed.. You did not want to be jabbed, said you werent't getting jabbed
What seperates you from others that made their own mind up to get jabbed is the fact that you are weak, you caved and did as someone else wanted you to.
With that said, you are still a member of the jabbed community, just on the lower scale, but nonetheless, Welcome homie :D[/QUOTE]
This made me chuckle.
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[QUOTE=Cass40;1642502903]I wonder why a doctor doesn't want to argue all day weeks and months with people citing studies they don't even read or understand or whose education level is level Africa is a country. Sounds so much fun.[/QUOTE]
Probably too busy partying on their yachts from the extra cash their clinics make off covid deaths.
Now they're opening up post-covid clinics.
[img]https://media4.giphy.com/media/gQdejV5BBChHi/giphy.gif[/img]
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[QUOTE=mgftp;1642502223]I guess JustTheDad got tired of setting stuff straight ITT.[/QUOTE]
Probably busy working on the September booster shots.
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[QUOTE=_zman;1642505173]Probably too busy partying on their yachts from the extra cash their clinics make off covid deaths.[/QUOTE]
Hospitals lost big money when elective procedures were halted. The death dollars weren’t even close to the losses from people staying away unless they were literally near death. I’m near a lot of very big very good hospitals, they looked vacant during our initial lockdowns.
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Btw. Tater tot the hater tot is not the only one even ITT who "caved in" or did it because someone else wanted them to or they wanted to travel, or their job demanded it, or they have some other people they worry about etc. just sayin.
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[QUOTE=Cass40;1642502903]I wonder why a doctor doesn't want to argue all day weeks and months with people citing studies they don't even read or understand or whose education level is level Africa is a country. Sounds so much fun.[/QUOTE]
Where is “level Africa” is that on the far side of flat earth?
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[QUOTE=Plateauplower;1642505443]Hospitals lost big money when elective procedures were halted. The death dollars weren’t even close to the losses from people staying away unless they were literally near death. I’m near a lot of very big very good hospitals, they looked vacant during our initial lockdowns.[/QUOTE]
I see it differently. Profits were simply postponed. And will likely accelerate with new Covid product line.
Most hospitals float billions in cash. Some were even bailed out with billions of cash on hand.
[url]https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/25/business/coronavirus-hospitals-bailout.html[/url]
Hospitals have so much cash they're targeted by hackers. When they say they can't afford it, hackers screenshot their bank accounts and just say, "you can afford it."
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[QUOTE=Cass40;1642505463]Btw. Tater tot the hater tot is not the only one even ITT who "caved in" or did it because someone else wanted them to or they wanted to travel, or their job demanded it, or they have some other people they worry about etc. just sayin.[/QUOTE]
Of course not, even Stevie Wonder can see that. They to are part of the jabbed community, just like Tater Tot is...
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[QUOTE=_zman;1642505703]I see it differently. Profits were simply postponed. And will likely accelerate with new Covid product line.
Most hospitals float billions in cash. Some were even bailed out with billions of cash on hand.
[url]https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/25/business/coronavirus-hospitals-bailout.html[/url]
Hospitals have so much cash they're targeted by hackers. When they say they can't afford it, hackers screenshot their bank accounts and just say, "you can afford it."[/QUOTE]
Hospitals are not going to get rich from covid. Hospitals make money on procedures and being near max capacity. Vaccine companies will make a LOT of money over the next several years, hospitals not so much.
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[QUOTE=mtpockets;1642502193]Wrong, you got jabbed, Now you are part of the Jab community. Plain and simple. Let me break it down for you, suck on a dong, you are a dongsucker, drive a truck you are a truck driver..See where I am going with this? The one thing that seperates you from some other jabbed people is some wanted to be jabbed.. You did not want to be jabbed, said you werent't getting jabbed
What seperates you from others that made their own mind up to get jabbed is the fact that you are weak, you caved and did as someone else wanted you to.
With that said, you are still a member of the jabbed community, just on the lower scale, but nonetheless, Welcome homie :D[/QUOTE]
You are not accurate here, I told my doc NO when he asked me, my wife told him yes and she drove me there, otherwise I wouldn’t of went. Had I not have a ball and chain I’d be unvaxxed, which you no nothing about, you only live with a bot.
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[QUOTE=LWW;1642506563]You are not accurate here, I told my doc NO when he asked me, my wife told him yes and she drove me there, otherwise I wouldn’t of went. Had I not have a ball and chain I’d be unvaxxed, which you no nothing about, you only live with a bot.[/QUOTE]
Like I said, you are a member of the Jabbed community.. Saying "NO" doesn't count if you get jabbed... Welcome to the community Hommie :D
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Lol at saying "noooo" and still getting jabbed :D
You shoulda told the doctor that no means no
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[QUOTE=Cass40;1642507203]Lol at saying "noooo" and still getting jabbed :D
You shoulda told the doctor that no means no[/QUOTE]
Still on spread.
LOLOL
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[QUOTE=Cass40;1642502903]I wonder why a doctor doesn't want to argue all day weeks and months with people citing studies they don't even read or understand or whose education level is level Africa is a country. Sounds so much fun.[/QUOTE]
Shocked he lasted as long as he did TBH.
However, like many good healthcare providers he served the public, not just in research and treatment, but in education. He might not have changed some of the minds here unfortunately, and I am sure he is smart enough to know those minds were too far gone. But I am sure his goal was more to dispell some of this misinformation to anyone else reading along ITT. Noble efforts, and again, surprised he lasted as long as he did.
[QUOTE=_zman;1642505173]Probably too busy partying on their yachts from the extra cash their clinics make off covid deaths.
Now they're opening up post-covid clinics.
[img]https://media4.giphy.com/media/gQdejV5BBChHi/giphy.gif[/img][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=_zman;1642505703]I see it differently. Profits were simply postponed. And will likely accelerate with new Covid product line.
Most hospitals float billions in cash. Some were even bailed out with billions of cash on hand.
[url]https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/25/business/coronavirus-hospitals-bailout.html[/url]
Hospitals have so much cash they're targeted by hackers. When they say they can't afford it, hackers screenshot their bank accounts and just say, "you can afford it."[/QUOTE]
I respect anonymity on the misc but I am dying to know what type of position you hold within the healthcare industry.... And why you continue to work within it with the feelings your harbor.
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[QUOTE=LWW;1642506563]You are not accurate here, I told my doc NO when he asked me, my wife told him yes and she drove me there, otherwise I wouldn’t of went. Had I not have a ball and chain I’d be unvaxxed, which you no nothing about, you only live with a bot.[/QUOTE]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/psvFShj.gif[/img]
^^^ Now I get this ^^^
Wow! WTH! I respect my chick and we decide together on many things but this...just smh. No wonder you take it all out on here on this forum trying to feel alpha af calling people names.
I hope she let you get a little sucker and your sticker.
You’re forever on my ignore list. Not engaging or reacting to anything from you. If I ever do, it’s cuz I probably forgot (not important enough to remember forever you know). Hope she lets you have a good weekend :)
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[QUOTE=TryingBB;1642515663][img]https://i.imgur.com/psvFShj.gif[/img]
^^^ Now I get this ^^^
Wow! WTH! I respect my chick and we decide together on many things but this...just smh. No wonder you take it all out on here on this forum trying to feel alpha af calling people names.
I hope she let you get a little sucker and your sticker.
You’re forever on my ignore list. Not engaging or reacting to anything from you. If I ever do, it’s cuz I probably forgot (not important enough to remember forever you know). Hope she lets you have a good weekend :)[/QUOTE]
Well, at least I don't wear a mask while still being vaxxed, I could've very well put up a long dispute about not getting jabbed, but it wasn't worth it.
Put me on ignore then, it's not like you even lift anyway, keep "trying" to bb:D
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Vax is illegal in this house, all this hype and not even a sniffle, keep getting your shots turds! Dont forget your booster every 6 months just because! Best part is all the unvaxxed people mixing with the sheep with no masks in stores. A good game of who is who, I love it.
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[QUOTE=Cass40;1642502903]I wonder why a doctor doesn't want to argue all day weeks and months with people citing studies they don't even read or understand or whose education level is level Africa is a country. Sounds so much fun.[/QUOTE]
#irony
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[QUOTE=Cass40;1642507203]Lol at saying "noooo" and still getting jabbed :D
You shoulda told the doctor that no means no[/QUOTE]
between this level of wit and a few other comic geniuses here, I'm lovin' the Jab Vibe ITT.
and I got my 2nd shot today and so far feeling totally normal. Normal being relative. :)
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[QUOTE=ChazWood;1642524223]between this level of wit and a few other comic geniuses here, I'm lovin' the Jab Vibe ITT.
and I got my 2nd shot today and so far feeling totally normal. Normal being relative. :)[/QUOTE]
Welcome to our jab community. We all have voluntarily gotten jabbed except for tater tot who got jabbed without consent, so he is in charge or our Me Too -movement jab division.
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[QUOTE=Cass40;1642524913]Welcome to our jab community. We all have voluntarily gotten jabbed except for tater tot who got jabbed without consent, so he is in charge or our Me Too -movement jab division.[/QUOTE]
Haha! You're in your zone. :)
I'm just glad it's not me in the crosshairs. This time. :D
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[QUOTE=Cass40;1642524913]Welcome to our jab community. We all have voluntarily gotten jabbed except for tater tot who got jabbed without consent, so he is in charge or our Me Too -movement jab division.[/QUOTE]
Lmfaoaoao
On spread with you...LMFAO!
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[QUOTE=LWW;1642518213]Well, at least I don't wear a mask while still being vaxxed[/QUOTE]
Wooooahhh, that's some pretty tough talk big guy, you should say "not wearing one yet."
You said the same thing about being jabbed and all that got you was a free meal :D
[img]https://i.imgur.com/W8sZKsv.jpg[/img]
I think it is just a matter of time before you show up with a mask over your yap. :D
[img]https://i.imgur.com/LX5vgdy.jpg[/img]
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[QUOTE=Cass40;1642524913]Welcome to our jab community. We all have voluntarily gotten jabbed except for tater tot who got jabbed without consent, so he is in charge or our Me Too -movement jab division.[/QUOTE]
"Me Too -movement jab division."
Bravo!
So reading various news websites i came across this paragraph and to me it completely explains what we have been seeing on this website for the last 6 months regarding the jab.
Ignore your own personal politics for a sec and think about the posts that you have read on this site recently.
"Scaremongering about the COVID-19 vaccine hit a fever pitch this week, from Fox News to some of the conservative movement's more fringe characters, with pundits placing particular emphasis on the apparent connection between President Biden's vaccine rollout and Nazi Germany."
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[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1642537053]"Me Too -movement jab division."
Bravo!
So reading various news websites i came across this paragraph and to me it completely explains what we have been seeing on this website for the last 6 months regarding the jab.
Ignore your own personal politics for a sec and think about the posts that you have read on this site recently.
"Scaremongering about the COVID-19 vaccine hit a fever pitch this week, from Fox News to some of the conservative movement's more fringe characters, with pundits placing particular emphasis on the apparent connection between President Biden's vaccine rollout and Nazi Germany."[/QUOTE]
Take a 1 month hiatus from reading that sort of garbage and I guarantee you will never go back.
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[QUOTE=eomrat;1642542363]Take a 1 month hiatus from reading that sort of garbage and I guarantee you will never go back.[/QUOTE]
Yeah you are right but I keep seeing the anti vaxx crew *putting in the hard work* and long hours on this website. For most of us this is a personal health choice and doesn't require debate or discussion. It isnt like some random dude/dudette's opinion on your fav bb site will change your mind regarding personal heath decisions. The organized positions on this site are exhausting.
You do you and don't try to convince.....
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[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1642542993]Yeah you are right but I keep seeing the anti vaxx crew *putting in the hard work* and long hours on this website. For most of us this is a personal health choice and doesn't require debate or discussion. It isnt like some random dude/dudette's opinion on your fav bb site will change your mind regarding personal heath decisions. The organized positions on this site are exhausting.
You do you and don't try to convince.....[/QUOTE]
You make your points better than 95% of the people on here.
And you either get a wall of text from some guy that admits he doesn't read the links he posts or someone calls you a commie or a Nazi. I don't mean to sound condescending to anyone, but every discussion here that turns political (after the 5th or 6th response) is generally beneath you.
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[QUOTE=mtpockets;1642532263]Wooooahhh, that's some pretty tough talk big guy, you should say "not wearing one yet."
You said the same thing about being jabbed and all that got you was a free meal :D
[img]https://i.imgur.com/W8sZKsv.jpg[/img]
I think it is just a matter of time before you show up with a mask over your yap. :D
[img]https://i.imgur.com/LX5vgdy.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
Why would I wear a god damn mask? Unlike many here I can admit that myself getting the jab was pretty stupid, and I say that going by the science (I don't think many here have the ballz to admit their stupid behavior) I never changed my habits during covid and I never caught covid, I don't go many places, going by the cases, there was no fuking reason for me to get jabbed, I just caved to the wife, which needs to happen at times, I don't need to be "wishy washy" about it.
Pockets was on here, "gee I don't know what to do yet" I knew what I was gonna say, if it didn't go my way, I didn't care.
BTW, how dare you call me "tough talk" I'm putting on you ignore, like the dork trying BB:D
I'm NOT against the jab community, just against the panic mindset, fuking stupid, and fuking stupid to continue masking while fully vaxxed.
Admit the stupidity.
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[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1642537053]"Me Too -movement jab division."
Bravo!
So reading various news websites i came across this paragraph and to me it completely explains what we have been seeing on this website for the last 6 months regarding the jab.
Ignore your own personal politics for a sec and think about the posts that you have read on this site recently.
"Scaremongering about the COVID-19 vaccine hit a fever pitch this week, from Fox News to some of the conservative movement's more fringe characters, with pundits placing particular emphasis on the apparent connection between President Biden's vaccine rollout and Nazi Germany."[/QUOTE]Just a simple, yes, no question: Do you think it is a good idea for Biden to send people to individuals home's to try to "convince" them to take the jab?
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[QUOTE=CommitmentRulz;1642547833]Just a simple, yes, no question: Do you think it is a good idea for Biden to send people to individuals home's to try to "convince" them to take the jab?[/QUOTE]
Just a simple answer, yes, if the state sends them.
I don't get personally offended when people knock at my door; i answer(or not) and dismiss them quickly or inquire more about what they are selling.
Having options doesn't scare me one bit.
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[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1642549613]Just a simple answer, yes, if the state sends them.
I don't get personally offended when people knock at my door; i answer(or not) and dismiss them quickly or inquire more about what they are selling.
Having options doesn't scare me one bit.[/QUOTE]
These people who are going to doors from the state, are they volunteers? OR are they highly paid government employees (paid by tax payers)? Or is Biden paying them from his own millions?
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[QUOTE=LWW;1642551373]These people who are going to doors from the state, are they volunteers? OR are they highly paid government employees (paid by tax payers)? Or is Biden paying them from his own millions?[/QUOTE]
Research the answers and provide us with the real, fact based answers that you find.
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[QUOTE=x-trainer ben;1642553203]Research the answers and provide us with the real, fact based answers that you find.[/QUOTE]
I'm writing a 20 page paper for school, plus I have some other work problems that need researching. Since you don't seem to care, I figured you'd have some knowledge, guess not?
I write a few paragraphs and check here just to keep some sanity (well maybe that don't sound right?), but hey, it's hell coming up with 20 pages of BS:D
And I got an exam next week:)
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[QUOTE=LWW;1642546843]Why would I wear a god damn mask?.[/QUOTE]
For the same reason you got the jab :D
[img]https://i.imgur.com/psvFShj.gif[/img]
[QUOTE=LWW;1642546843] fuking stupid to continue masking while fully vaxxed.
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Careful now, you made similar comments about getting jabbed and look at you now, 2 extra holes in your arm
I am willing to bet you will be wearing your mask when you go to get the booster shot :D
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[QUOTE=mtpockets;1642555343]For the same reason you got the jab :D
[img]https://i.imgur.com/psvFShj.gif[/img]
Careful now, you made similar comments about getting jabbed and look at you now, 2 extra holes in your arm
I am willing to bet you will be wearing your mask when you go to get the booster shot :D[/QUOTE]
True Story, When we voted I wasn't wearing a mask, this was outside standing in line, wife said "put you mask on cause someone's going to start trouble with you" I said "let them", she said "your such a dikhead, you think are better than everyone" I said "I am".
I don't think the booaster will happen, thinking I'm gonna be a dikhead about it honestly.
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[QUOTE=LWW;1642556233]True Story, When we voted I wasn't wearing a mask, this was outside standing in line, wife said "put you mask on cause someone's going to start trouble with you" I said "let them", she said "your such a dikhead, you think are better than everyone" I said "I am".
I don't think the booaster will happen, thinking I'm gonna be a dikhead about it honestly.[/QUOTE]
Me too! I had one shot and that's all I'm gon do! I'm done.
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[QUOTE=LWW;1642556233]True Story, When we voted I wasn't wearing a mask, this was outside standing in line, wife said "put you mask on cause someone's going to start trouble with you" I said "let them", she said "your such a dikhead, you think are better than everyone" I said "I am".
I don't think the booaster will happen, thinking I'm gonna be a dikhead about it honestly.[/QUOTE]
Natural immunity, still no covid, actually a couple times exposed but nope nutting honey lol Still no 1st shot still no 2and shot and Zero plans on any future shots and I still dont own a mask lol
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[QUOTE=Cass40;1642558393]Me too! I had one shot and that's all I'm gon do! I'm done.[/QUOTE]
You are not vaccinated then. You should be ashamed of yourself you 50% antivaxxer.
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[QUOTE=Plateauplower;1642559303]You are not vaccinated then. You should be ashamed of yourself you 50% antivaxxer.[/QUOTE]
unless she got poked with a johnson
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[QUOTE=mtpockets;1642559453]unless[b] she got poked with a johnson [/b][/QUOTE]
:eek:
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I has a feeling Cassie has been vaccinated 'boot 23 times.
But we not gonna talk about that.
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[QUOTE=Plateauplower;1642559303]You are not vaccinated then. You should be ashamed of yourself you 50% antivaxxer.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mark1T;1642560773]I has a feeling Cassie has been vaccinated 'boot 23 times.
But we not gonna talk about that.[/QUOTE]
Look I know this thread is 106 pages long but y'all should remember I told you I got J&J ;)
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[QUOTE=Cass40;1642558393]Me too! I had one shot and that's all I'm gon do! I'm done.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, if you got J&J, well that's a double Johnson there...........................