*🇱🇷*🇱🇷* Election Chat Thread III: The land of Cope and Dreams *🇱🇷*🇱🇷*🇱🇷

[QUOTE=JonZ;1623552821]

Endless proof of fraud...[/QUOTE]

it's actually endless crazy unfounded allegations of fraud, but zero actual hard evidence.

Because NONE of the hard evidence was brought up in court where facts are checked accurately.

That's why you know that the people claiming fraud are liars and frauds themselves - they only make the claims in venues where it's not illegal to lie. But in court they won't bring the fraud claims because they can be punished for lying.





I feel bad for you, I really do. You are angry that you're being lied to and that fraud is being perpetrated on the American people, and rightfully so. But your anger is misdirected and the people you think are your friends are actually the ones who are lying to you and they are the ones committing the fraud. It's a massive deception alright, but you've been duped instead of thinking you have the facts. I'm sorry for your situation. If you have an open mind I am confident you will find the truth.

[url]https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1331247567041081345[/url]


Oof

[QUOTE=|ceman;1623553291]Are you paying attention? Georgia did a full hand recount [b]audit[/b].

Just completed last week.

Fully confirmed the winner of the state.

GOP governor Kemp was disappointed, but had to certify Biden as the winner.[/QUOTE]

you added a word by accident

were signatures matched?

[QUOTE=|ceman;1623553661]
I feel bad for you, I really do. You are angry that you're being lied to and that fraud is being perpetrated on the American people, and rightfully so. But your anger is misdirected and the people you think are your friends are actually the ones who are lying to you and they are the ones committing the fraud. It's a massive deception alright, but you've been duped instead of thinking you have the facts. I'm sorry for your situation. If you have an open mind I am confident you will find the truth.[/QUOTE]



I'm not angry. I choose not to have children long ago ( because the world is ****ed) and due to some health concerns will probably be dead in 10 years.
I feel bad for you for the same reasons you mentioned above.
You've been brainwashed into thinking the people who've sold out and sunk this country for the past 40 years will somehow save it.

Did I think Trump was going to save this country? No. Its unsavable. But I did think he's policies were doing a good job holding off the inevitable for awhile.
Nationalist policies are good for Americans. Globalist policies are bad for them. Its really that simple.
If Trump gets booted, I'll simply revert back to not caring and go about my business.
Biden is pretty much the definition of corrupt politician.
It'll pretty much be back to business as usual, which meaning selling out the american people are fast as possible to line their pockets.

I can't believe people don't realise this is just Trump's final way to squeeze some money out of the American people. 'Donate to the Trump legal team now!' Lmfao.

PA is certified.

[QUOTE=|ceman;1623552761]Take note everyone:


This is what mental illness looks like. Please be kind to this mentally handicapped and gullible poster Paul Kruel. He is not mentally sound nor competent.


We all feel sorry for you dear poster.[/QUOTE]

Let’s try again..like I said before, you are a child that needs to be spoon feed. Actually more like a toddler flaling about in their high chair with chocolate pudding all over their face as mother tries to feed you a spoon full of logic, but you just can’t seem to swallow.’Cause mother had a distinct feeling, she conceived a “special ed” child.

[url]https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/ga-voting.pdf[/url]

"First and foremost, Plaintiffs’ challenge focuses on the Defendants’ implementation of the new statewide BMD system, pursuant to the terms of the State’s 2019 contract with Dominion Voting Systems.5 The software and hardware system purchased provides for each citizen’s BMD ballot vote selections to be printed on a paper ballot generated by a printer connected to the BMD. But the tabulation of the vote is actually based on the ballot’s non-encrypted QR barcode on the ballot – designed to summarize the voter’s ballot selections in code – that by itself is not voter reviewable or verifiable.

"Thus, Plaintiffs contend that the system precludes direct voter verification of the QR barcode of votes cast on the ballot. The printed ballot is fed into an ImageCast optical scanner that tabulates the ballot votes solely based on the QR code – and not based on the human readable text on the printed ballot.

"Plaintiffs challenge the constitutionality of the State Defendants’ implementation of a barcode-based system for all in-person voting, based on (1) this alleged fundamental vote verification defect; (2) the system’s purported known and demonstrated risk vulnerabilities to access and manipulation identified by national cybersecurity experts; and (3) the inherent problems posed in properly auditing votes tallied based on QR barcodes that cannot be verified by voters.

"Additionally, the Coalition Plaintiffs press their separate but related claim for relief based on the alleged intrusion on voters’ free exercise of their right to cast a secret ballot at the polls. The nature of this claim is two-fold. First, the Coalition Plaintiffs assert that in-person voters are required to make their ballot selections on oversized voting touchscreens that are not shielded and that expose the voter’s ballot choices to easy viewing by other people in the precinct voting location.Second, they assert that a timestamping feature on the precinct scanner could be used to identify voters to reveal their vote choices."

[QUOTE=SlowHandClap;1623554321]I can't believe people don't realise this is just Trump's final way to squeeze some money out of the American people. 'Donate to the Trump legal team now!' Lmfao.[/QUOTE]

riiiiightt

[url]https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1329878933043515392[/url]

[QUOTE=|ceman;1623553261]yes, and in Georgia they did a full hand recount. by hand. using humans.


if any fraud was done with the automation it would have been caught in the hand recount process. but it wasn't, so there isn't any.

Unless it's a complete conspiracy with thousands of GOP poll workers in GA reaching up to the SoS and Governor. Biblical if true. Let's see the facts, Kraken (aka, crazy bag lady).[/QUOTE]

Did you not read my post or you just didn't understand it? You don't seem to be able to grasp the fact there are ways to coincide physical and digital votes that aren't legitimate.

[QUOTE=entropy91;1623554771]Did you not read my post or you just didn't understand it? You don't seem to be able to grasp the fact there are ways to coincide physical and digital votes that aren't legitimate.[/QUOTE] so why didn't the gop georgia governor's office validate that in their audit? Or are you in the camp that believes Kemp wanted Trump to lose?

There are plenty of Republicans who want Trump out of office. Theyd rather concentrate on the senate and retaking the house.
Theyre banking on a disastrous Biden term leading to a clubmember R for WH in 2024.


P3d0 defenders will shrug cause Orange bad. US
Countries rally behind China as dominant trade power as china's $ is at 2 year high.

[url]https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/nov/15/china-and-14-asia-pacific-countries-agree-historic-free-trade-deal[/url]

[QUOTE=|ceman;1623555001]so why didn't the gop georgia governor's office validate that in their audit? Or are you in the camp that believes Kemp wanted Trump to lose?[/QUOTE]

Cot dayum your posts get dumber by the minute.
They were the ONLY STATE TO USE DOMINION STATEWIDE. Why do you think Georgia is having a ton of problems?
[url]https://sos.ga.gov/index.php/elections/poll_worker_training_aggressive_statewide_program_targets_those_who_make_the_critical_difference_on_election_day[/url]

Gee, I wonder why..

“First and foremost, Plaintiffs’ challenge focuses on the Defendants’ implementation of the new statewide BMD system, pursuant to the terms of the State’s 2019 contract with Dominion Voting Systems.5 The software and hardware system purchased provides for each citizen’s BMD ballot vote selections to be printed on a paper ballot generated by a printer connected to the BMD. But the tabulation of the vote is actually based on the ballot’s non-encrypted QR barcode on the ballot – designed to summarize the voter’s ballot selections in code – that by itself is not voter reviewable or verifiable."

[url]https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/ga-voting.pdf[/url]

Please stop posting. Urafukinmoron

[QUOTE=|ceman;1623555001]so why didn't the gop georgia governor's office validate that in their audit? Or are you in the camp that believes Kemp wanted Trump to lose?[/QUOTE]

There would be nothing to invalidate, the ballots would match.

Once absentee ballots are removed from the envelope they're not traceable. They give anonymity to voters. The initial signature verification is the only verification mechanism. Mail in ballots are the easiest to way to fake votes.

[QUOTE=|ceman;1623553291]Are you paying attention? Georgia did a full hand recount audit.

Just completed last week.

Fully confirmed the winner of the state.

GOP governor Kemp was disappointed, but had to certify Biden as the winner.[/QUOTE]

They did a recount, they did not do an audit. Didnt the sos say an audit would be impossible?

[QUOTE=Paul Kreul;1623556141]Cot dayum your posts get dumber by the minute.
They were the ONLY STATE TO USE DOMINION STATEWIDE. Why do you think Georgia is having a ton of problems?
[url]https://sos.ga.gov/index.php/elections/poll_worker_training_aggressive_statewide_program_targets_those_who_make_the_critical_difference_on_election_day[/url]

Gee, I wonder why..

“First and foremost, Plaintiffs’ challenge focuses on the Defendants’ implementation of the new statewide BMD system, pursuant to the terms of the State’s 2019 contract with Dominion Voting Systems.5 The software and hardware system purchased provides for each citizen’s BMD ballot vote selections to be printed on a paper ballot generated by a printer connected to the BMD. But the tabulation of the vote is actually based on the ballot’s non-encrypted QR barcode on the ballot – designed to summarize the voter’s ballot selections in code – that by itself is not voter reviewable or verifiable."

[url]https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/ga-voting.pdf[/url]

Please stop posting. Urafukinmoron[/QUOTE]

The paper ballot prints out a QR code AND PRINTED TEXT CONFIRMING THE VOTERS SELECTION. How are you this stupid?

[url]www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/11/17/georgia-says-voting-machine-audit-found-no-evidence-of-fraud-tampering.html[/url]

You're wrong again.

Forensic audit was completed and overseen by the Republican secretary of state.


You're literally grasping at straws here. Are you severely mentally handicapped in everything in life or just this topic?

Guys, this is drifting into flat earth level stupidity. At some point you have to recognize that the lies you've been fed are complete trash. They're even too loony for Tucker and Ingraham.

Go ahead and rest your hopes on Lin Wood and Bag Lady Powell. Surely that will end up well.

[QUOTE=|ceman;1623558941]The paper ballot prints out a QR code AND PRINTED TEXT CONFIRMING THE VOTERS SELECTION. How are you this stupid?

[url]www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/11/17/georgia-says-voting-machine-audit-found-no-evidence-of-fraud-tampering.html[/url]

You're wrong again.

Forensic audit was completed and overseen by the Republican secretary of state.


You're literally grasping at straws here. Are you severely mentally handicapped in everything in life or just this topic?[/QUOTE]

HOLE-LEE-FUK . You cannot be this stupid. It goes off the QR code, do you understand that?

[url]https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/04/georgia-election-machine-glitch-434065[/url]

[QUOTE=|ceman;1623559311]Guys, this is drifting into flat earth level stupidity. At some point you have to recognize that the lies you've been fed are complete trash. They're even too loony for Tucker and Ingraham.

Go ahead and rest your hopes on Lin Wood and Bag Lady Powell. Surely that will end up well.[/QUOTE]

You mean like the lie you told one page back that Dominion software only counted in person votes?

Yes I am waiting for what Powell has to show. As if waiting for evidence or lack thereof is something to be ashamed of.

[QUOTE=entropy91;1623557981]There would be nothing to invalidate, the ballots would match.

Once absentee ballots are removed from the envelope they're not traceable. They give anonymity to voters. The initial signature verification is the only verification mechanism. Mail in ballots are the easiest to way to fake votes.[/QUOTE]

Who is it you think is doing the faking and how did they get all of the ballots you're saying certainly must have been faked (because Trump lost).

They had to get official ballots somehow, matching real, registered people. How did they get these ballots, and how did they get enough to win knowing they wouldn't clash with the actual voters en masse?

[youtube]qZ_ks_sNITg[/youtube]

[QUOTE=IronILLinois;1623534441]another [B]giant[/B] phaggot that migrated from CA. ill pray 4 u[/QUOTE]



You're not an American. Stop trolling

[QUOTE=GreatOldOne;1623560631]Who is it you think is doing the faking and how did they get all of the ballots you're saying certainly must have been faked (because Trump lost).

They had to get official ballots somehow, matching real, registered people. How did they get these ballots, and how did they get enough to win knowing they wouldn't clash with the actual voters en masse?[/QUOTE]

The numbers of provisional ballots would indicate they were using voter data to fill out ballots for people that hadn't voted yet.

Part of Lin Woods case is evidence of mailed ballots that were never sent through the mail.

just in to say, my PA provisional ballot still wasnt counted. Allegheny County is unsure of why.

[QUOTE=Paul Kreul;1623559341]HOLE-LEE-FUK . You cannot be this stupid. It goes off the QR code, do you understand that?

[url]https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/04/georgia-election-machine-glitch-434065[/url][/QUOTE]

And the hand recount verifies the printed text. You cannot be this stupid.


[url]https://wgxa.tv/news/local/are-georgias-votes-being-audited-or-recounted[/url]

[quote]Counties across Georgia wrapped up an audit of the presidential election this week.


Though similar to a recount, an audit is designed to make sure that all equipment and procedures for counting the vote worked properly.

This year was the first time Georgia used new ballot-marking voting machines that produce a paper record of every ballot cast in person, "to ensure all voters can verify the accuracy of their vote."

During an audit, [size=7]every paper ballot is tallied by hand to make sure it matches the results made by the scanning machine[/size].[/quote]

[QUOTE=Stizzel;1623560711][youtube]qZ_ks_sNITg[/youtube][/QUOTE]

Nothing to see here.

[QUOTE=|ceman;1623561721]And the hand recount verifies the printed text. You cannot be this stupid.


[url]https://wgxa.tv/news/local/are-georgias-votes-being-audited-or-recounted[/url][/QUOTE]

I’m going to explain this ONE more time. The QRcode is what was processed. The QR code does NOT match what was submitted. The paper that is counted has DIFFERENT reading than the QR code. This is what the court paper explains.
Youdumbkunt

[QUOTE=GreatOldOne;1623560631]Who is it you think is doing the faking and how did they get all of the ballots you're saying certainly must have been faked (because Trump lost).

They had to get official ballots somehow, matching real, registered people. How did they get these ballots, and how did they get enough to win knowing they wouldn't clash with the actual voters en masse?[/QUOTE]

Well that would fall within the sig verification software. If done automatically it could be passed and separated easily. Once done it would be impossible to audit. Manual verification requires actual humans to scan the bar code and verify the signatures match. In that case you would need to implement dummy ballots / data. However once separated it is also impossible to audit.

To your last point mail in ballots were counted last.

I'm really interested to see what Trump's team has been holding onto.

They said they won Arizona, Wisconsin, Michigan, Penny, & Georgia before certification, yet all came out in favor of Biden.

The alleged conspiracy seems to have be centered around the Dominion Voting Systems.

I don't believe the 100-1000s of Affidavits of what was witnessed on or around election day is sure-fire enough to over-turn the result of the election on their own unless they uncover legitimate racketeering in direct connection with what was witnessed.

[QUOTE=XterraRob;1623563151]I'm really interested to see what Trump's team has been holding onto.

They said they won Arizona, Wisconsin, Michigan, Penny, & Georgia before certification, yet all came out in favor of Biden.

The alleged conspiracy seems to have be centered around the Dominion Voting Systems.

I don't believe the 100-1000s of Affidavits of what was witnessed on or around election day is sure-fire enough to over-turn the result of the election on their own unless they uncover legitimate racketeering in direct connection with what was witnessed.[/QUOTE]

we wont find out til it goes to court


all speculation at this moment

[QUOTE=Procta;1623553861]you added a word by accident

were signatures matched?[/QUOTE]

They were not.