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[QUOTE=eatyourspinach;1630489693]the arginine is useless but lets not forget that two of everyone's favorites (XF and Vasolate) also had added glutamine and creatine FWIW[/QUOTE]
You're right, Ultra Peptide 2.0 had ~400mg of creatine mono and taurine. I appreciate that it was explicitly listed on the label.
It's a pretty apt comparison when considering the protein per scoop and the price (UMP does have 30 servings vs. 24 in UP2.0).
I was a cheapskate, though, always buying the $19.99 closeout flavors from Dave. I guess I am partly to blame for them going out of business. :(
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[QUOTE=UncleWade;1630523883]You're right, Ultra Peptide 2.0 had ~400mg of creatine mono and taurine. I appreciate that it was explicitly listed on the label.
It's a pretty apt comparison when considering the protein per scoop and the price (UMP does have 30 servings vs. 24 in UP2.0).
I was a cheapskate, though, always buying the $19.99 closeout flavors from Dave. I guess I am partly to blame for them going out of business. :([/QUOTE]
It was explicitly listed on the label.
And one reason given was that it was the approximate amount of creatine you'd get from a steak dinner.
And, as I recall, it was not used towards the total protein number on the nutrition label, right?
I really, really miss the strawberry UP 2.0. Banana too. But mostly strawberry. :(
I only bought like a dozen tubs when it was 50% off because I was about to move and I didn't realize it was gone-gone, or I would have bought dozens
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So this week was my 1st week of being back on Pres, Monday I started with C4U and I felt it pretty good.... got the crazy itchies more than ever before. Yesterday I tried Dark Energy and timed my lunch perfectly, so here's my take.
Did I get flooded with some crazy rush of energy.... nope. I will say that I could feel it, but it was a more euphoric feeling than balls to the wall energy... and that was totally ok. I had energy to keep pushing through a 2 hour workout, as a matter of fact, I hit a PR in DL and felt I might have been able to do more weight had I skipped the 455 and maybe went to 465-475 as I was able to pull 455 twice. Did that and did a nice back workout and before I knew it I was an hour and a half into my workout....so def something to it. Today I will Take my DVST8 again since Ill be doing 495lb rack pulls and shoulders lets see if it feels different from my previous tries.
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Sup guys, does anyone know how to can buy Dark Energy, in Europe? Other than ordering it from the US?
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[QUOTE=MisterInfinity;1630652903]Sup guys, does anyone know how to can buy Dark Energy, in Europe? Other than ordering it from the US?[/QUOTE]
Go to IG and check the Review Bros and message them and ask them if they know of a store in the U.K.
that might stock Dark Energy. I don't think but I could be mistaken that it's not available in Europe .
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[QUOTE=ISurfNudeBrah;1630356323]Fug permabanned? Nice.
PES protein has been my go to shake lately. What other companies do I need to check out for good whey/blends?[/QUOTE]
Glad to see I'm still on your mind
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[QUOTE=TheFugitive;1630673483]Glad to see I'm still on your mind[/QUOTE]
Well hello there!
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I just read a study about how BCAAs don't preserve muscle mass but the great thing about this forum is that I keep getting an "Access Denied, dont have permission to post on this server" message so I can't make threads
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[QUOTE=eatyourspinach;1630746033]I just read a study about how BCAAs don't preserve muscle mass but the great thing about this forum is that I keep getting an "Access Denied, dont have permission to post on this server" message so I can't make threads[/QUOTE]
they know of your anti-BCAA heretic ways and won't let you spread madness.
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In an effort to become more like twitworm, the forum is slowly reducing the maximum allowable post length/complexity
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[QUOTE=eatyourspinach;1630746033]I just read a study about how BCAAs don't preserve muscle mass but the great thing about this forum is that I keep getting an "Access Denied, dont have permission to post on this server" message so I can't make threads[/QUOTE]
I just had it happen to me, so you have my sympathy.
What I've learned to counteract is that so long as you go under the advanced reply, you can go pack to the posting page. Amongst the text, there is some line, quote, or paragraph that is causing the error. If you cut a few chunks out at a time, you can usually isolate the part giving you the error and post. Then just post whatever it was you cut out 45 seconds later as a second reply.
In any case, BCAAs have struck me as a scam for a long time once I looked more into them and stopped bothering many years ago.
They're still calories, and a vastly inferior one than just taking straight protein that already contains the aminos you need.
I don't know what article you found, but just browsing real quickly led me to one such as [url=https://jissn.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12970-017-0184-9]this[/url] in relation to fasting. Quite a long read, but skipping to the end:
[quote][i]We can conclude from these two studies that BCAA infusion not only fails to increase the rate of muscle protein synthesis in human subjects, but actually reduces the rate of muscle protein synthesis and the rate of muscle protein turnover. The catabolic state was not reversed to an anabolic state in either study. Further, a sustained reduction in the rate of muscle protein turnover would be expected to have a detrimental effect on muscle strength, even if muscle mass is maintained. Muscle protein turnover renews the muscle fibers and results in increased efficiency of contraction at the single fiber level [url=https://jissn.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12970-017-0184-9#ref-CR16][16][/url], which is reflected in increased strength in vivo, independent of muscle mass [[url=https://jissn.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12970-017-0184-9#ref-CR17]17[/url], [url=https://jissn.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12970-017-0184-9#ref-CR18]18[/url]]. [/i][/quote]
I fast for lengthy periods and have yet to suffer any ill effects or losses, and from my own experience it boils down to getting enough protein in between when breaking the fast.
That leads me to my own concern with BCAAs: They [i]are[/i] still calories, and quite a hefty load all things considered, so it seems reasonable to assume that it could knock a person out of a fasted state, returning their body to normal, and negating any benefits of fasting in the first place. It could certainly vary from person to person in the same way that ketosis has some variability depending on the individual, but at the same time, BCAA drinks and powders might as well be treated as glorified light sodas seeing as the concentration of BCAAs is enough to really add up.
[QUOTE=Farley1324;1630771423]In an effort to become more like twitworm, the forum is slowly reducing the maximum allowable post length/complexity[/QUOTE]
Something's definitely up.
Whatever the case, Twitter always finds new ways to prove that it was a mistake that is doing our world exponential harm.
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[QUOTE=Iluvmud;1630732753]Well hello there![/QUOTE]
Sup bud, how you do?
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[QUOTE=eatyourspinach;1630746033]I just read a study about how BCAAs don't preserve muscle mass but the great thing about this forum is that I keep getting an "Access Denied, dont have permission to post on this server" message so I can't make threads[/QUOTE]
Who's behind this study? Hopefully its not the same farmers that started something similar years back
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[QUOTE=TheFugitive;1630818773]Who's behind this study? Hopefully its not the same farmers that started something similar years back[/QUOTE]
Back in business, I see lmao
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Not sure there are any moderators in the supp section any more lol
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Key lime pie Bang is pretty good. Was expecting it to be awful. Same with Radical Skadattle. Tasted like liquid smarties.
If you haven’t had it. The Pro Oikos is good with only 3 g sugar and 20 g protein
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Slow ass thread.... lets go mix some hemavol, best bcaa, along with some CBD gummies. Trolololololo
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[QUOTE=LoudyRowdy;1631846663]Slow ass thread.... lets go mix some hemavol, best bcaa, along with some CBD gummies. Trolololololo[/QUOTE]
Sounds like a great trio
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[QUOTE=Farley1324;1630987213]Not sure there are any moderators in the supp section any more lol[/QUOTE]
We're around, we just don't post
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[QUOTE=Synapsin;1631908523]We're around, we just don't post[/QUOTE]
I was referring to 12+ hour old spam threads, I think some were pushing 24 hours
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It’s looking more and more likely our gyms won’t be opening until around may/June.
It’s gonna be newbie gains all over again.
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[QUOTE=faipdeooiad;1631951143]It’s looking more and more likely our gyms won’t be opening until around may/June.
It’s gonna be newbie gains all over again.[/QUOTE]
Sounds political
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[QUOTE=faipdeooiad;1631951143]It’s looking more and more likely our gyms won’t be opening until around may/June.
It’s gonna be newbie gains all over again.[/QUOTE]
As a gym bro I feel empathy and sympathy, our gyms have been closed since mid-October and remain that way as well until April. However, after having taken a dick in the butt this week as a direct result of Brexit, The UK can **** off lol
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If you have money in Chromodex stocks then you are one lucky person l... that stock jumped almost 200% this week
To the moooon!!!!
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Myself, my daughter and my wife all tested positive for the ‘rona this week. Thankfully those 2 are ok. It I wouldn’t wish this on anyone (well..maybe a few people).
Can’t smell, can’t taste, barely able to keep food down and anything that does stay down flows out of me like the river Thames. Muscle fatigue, aching joints, cough and just general fatigue. I’m glad in a way that I’m the only one with symptoms as I wouldn’t want my 3year old to feel like this but my god, I wish it’d hurry up and clear off.
[QUOTE=LoudyRowdy;1632394713]If you have money in Chromodex stocks then you are one lucky person l... that stock jumped almost 200% this week
To the moooon!!!![/QUOTE]
Chromadonks!
I’m surprised you were allowed to know the share price TBH.
Can anyone hit me up with a store code? Will love you long time
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[QUOTE=LoudyRowdy;1632394713]If you have money in Chromodex stocks then you are one lucky person l... that stock jumped almost 200% this week
To the moooon!!!![/QUOTE]
they have all their eggs in the Niagen basket now
[QUOTE=faipdeooiad;1632474643]Myself, my daughter and my wife all tested positive for the ‘rona this week. Thankfully those 2 are ok. It I wouldn’t wish this on anyone (well..maybe a few people).
Can’t smell, can’t taste, barely able to keep food down and anything that does stay down flows out of me like the river Thames. Muscle fatigue, aching joints, cough and just general fatigue. I’m glad in a way that I’m the only one with symptoms as I wouldn’t want my 3year old to feel like this but my god, I wish it’d hurry up and clear off.
Chromadonks!
I’m surprised you were allowed to know the share price TBH.
Can anyone hit me up with a store code? Will love you long time[/QUOTE]
I'm in the I think I had it but never tested positive group, hope it doesn't last long for you. Getting the Honey or Wikibuy apps/extensions might be your best bet for finding codes
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on the docket for tonight...
[img]https://i.imgur.com/cgkgjxg.jpg[/img]
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This is why we can't have nice things
Was SMH at 450 caffeine then saw another line for caffeine further down. lmao. And Y. And Eria.
Druggies gonne drug
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[QUOTE=dougefresh93;1632755693]on the docket for tonight...
[img]httXps://i.imgur.com/cgkgjxg.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
Two scoops of Excelsior or GTFO.
Go hang with Farley in the corner with the rest of the straight edge dudebros.
