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[QUOTE=AdamWW;1639266073]Your May 19 pics, to me, look around 13.5%[/QUOTE]
Thank you.
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[QUOTE=Mateo217;1639296763]Thank you.[/QUOTE]
You know… at second glance…
I think it could be a little lower…
Closer to 12.5 maybe…
Either way looking solid
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[QUOTE=AdamWW;1639366153]You know… at second glance…
I think it could be a little lower…
Closer to 12.5 maybe…
Either way looking solid[/QUOTE]
Thank you for taking the time to look again. You were probably closer with 13.5%, IMO. Either way, I feel good about adding some calories, which is always exciting.
Thanks for the compliment!
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[QUOTE=user44FKJO7TW5Z;1639294923]Height: 6ft
Weight: 169 lbs
Waist: 34 inch
Low muscle mass and high fat on belly area
Pics in progress photo.
Also my age is 21 not 51 Xd[/QUOTE]
You definitely carry most of it in the belly. Arms and upper back look pretty lean. I would say still approx 20%. Kind of a tough one.
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Looking for BF estimate on both pics
5'10
189->159
EDIT: ty for response!
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Do you think i should cut or bulk? I’ve been bulking for the past two weeks and its making it worse
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[QUOTE=LegendKiIIer;1639509003]Looking for BF estimate on both pics
5'10
189->159[/QUOTE]
Nice work man.
I'd say you went from about 30-32% to about 17%
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[QUOTE=user44FKJO7TW5Z;1639509133]Do you think i should cut or bulk? I’ve been bulking for the past two weeks and its making it worse[/QUOTE]
That's a big kettle of worms to open up. Depends on how you want to look. If you want to be leaner, you're going to have to move more or eat less.
If you're just starting, one might say you should be able to still build some muscle while in a slight deficit. You'll build more muscle bulking but you'll get fatter.
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Pretty stoked to be seeing abs for the first time in my life. Definitely got a ways to go before my goal of 10% though but happy with the journey. Last time I posted here I was estimated at around 18% (shoutout Adam!). Would appreciate some updated estimates!
6”1, 173lbs M20, pics in bodyspace.
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[QUOTE=userPYXIOLYCMZP;1639535223]Pretty stoked to be seeing abs for the first time in my life. Definitely got a ways to go before my goal of 10% though but happy with the journey. Last time I posted here I was estimated at around 18% (shoutout Adam!). Would appreciate some updated estimates!
6”1, 173lbs M20, pics in bodyspace.[/QUOTE]maybe 10-12%
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[QUOTE=userPYXIOLYCMZP;1639535223]Pretty stoked to be seeing abs for the first time in my life. Definitely got a ways to go before my goal of 10% though but happy with the journey. Last time I posted here I was estimated at around 18% (shoutout Adam!). Would appreciate some updated estimates!
6”1, 173lbs M20, pics in bodyspace.[/QUOTE]
I'd say 12-13% based on that one photo probably
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5 foot 5, 172 lbs
Current
5 foot 5, 129 lbs
3/4 of the fat loss occured since mid December 2020
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[QUOTE=brianadelstein;1639647143]Before
5 foot 5, 172 lbs
Current
5 foot 5, 129 lbs
3/4 of the fat loss occured since mid December 2020
Thank you![/QUOTE]
Amazing work man. 35% down to 20-22ish % is my guess. Harder to tell with your vacuum pose. Might have lost a little muscle going that quick, and water weight for sure.
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[QUOTE=AdamWW;1639556253]I'd say 12-13% based on that one photo probably[/QUOTE]
Would agree. There is some skin hiding the lower abs. Solid 13%
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[QUOTE=Mateo217;1639665573]Amazing work man. 35% down to 20-22ish % is my guess. Harder to tell with your vacuum pose. Might have lost a little muscle going that quick, and water weight for sure.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for your thoughts. Fun fact: I actually have gained strength not lost it during this cut. Though I know muscle is impossible not to lose in a cut. So go figure that pickle.
Once I lose another 4 lbs I'm going to do a full body composition analysis. It kind of boggles my mind that even though I look better than my last check-in and have lost more visible fat, the bf estimate I hear hasn't changed. I'm really curious to see how the proof matches the pudding.
I know of course everyone means well, but to me 20-22 seems high when I see that range on pics like attached. I probably sound like a broken record, but I'd have guessed 18-19 by now.
In any event, as small as I am now- how far away can I really be from 15-16 percent? Maybe my pics seem like I'm bigger or wider but I'm a small stature dude with a thin bone frame.
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[QUOTE=brianadelstein;1639666723]Thanks for your thoughts. Fun fact: I actually have gained strength not lost it during this cut. Though I know muscle is impossible not to lose in a cut. So go figure that pickle.
Once I lose another 4 lbs I'm going to do a full body composition analysis. It kind of boggles my mind that even though I look better than my last check-in and have lost more visible fat, the bf estimate I hear hasn't changed. I'm really curious to see how the proof matches the pudding.
I know of course everyone means well, but to me 20-22 seems high when I see that range on pics like attached. I probably sound like a broken record, but I'd have guessed 18-19 by now.
In any event, as small as I am now- how far away can I really be from 15-16 percent? Maybe my pics seem like I'm bigger or wider but I'm a small stature dude with a thin bone frame.[/QUOTE]
I have the opinion you can gain muscle and certainly strength in a cut depending on the deficit and bf%; though some might not agree, it's not impossible.
It's possible you are lower than 20%. Remember, I am going off of one picture. No side pose, no relaxed new pose. No back pose, no legs pose.
Gotta give me a +/- 1-2% estimate minimum here.
;)
However, based on the one photo you sent, I'm not seeing sub-20% definition. Maybe someone else has an opinion.
Good work regardless.
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[QUOTE=brianadelstein;1639666723]Thanks for your thoughts. Fun fact: I actually have gained strength not lost it during this cut. Though I know muscle is impossible not to lose in a cut. So go figure that pickle.
Once I lose another 4 lbs I'm going to do a full body composition analysis. It kind of boggles my mind that even though I look better than my last check-in and have lost more visible fat, the bf estimate I hear hasn't changed. I'm really curious to see how the proof matches the pudding.
I know of course everyone means well, but to me 20-22 seems high when I see that range on pics like attached. I probably sound like a broken record, but I'd have guessed 18-19 by now.
In any event, as small as I am now- how far away can I really be from 15-16 percent? Maybe my pics seem like I'm bigger or wider but I'm a small stature dude with a thin bone frame.[/QUOTE]
The pictures you shared in that example chart have ranges that are WAY too big
You can’t have one picture for everything between 15 and 20%
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[QUOTE=Mateo217;1639673433]I have the opinion you can gain muscle and certainly strength in a cut depending on the deficit and bf%; though some might not agree, it's not impossible.
It's possible you are lower than 20%. Remember, I am going off of one picture. No side pose, no relaxed new pose. No back pose, no legs pose.
Gotta give me a +/- 1-2% estimate minimum here.
;)
However, based on the one photo you sent, I'm not seeing sub-20% definition. Maybe someone else has an opinion.
Good work regardless.[/QUOTE]
One big issue with the picture of him is that he’s stretching upward and not flexing his abs…
I agree with your assessment based on the pose he’s taking… I don’t see sub 20% based on that.
However, sometimes when people suck in, they lose all an definition because their insertions are shallow
I’d want to see him crunch his abs in and not stretch them out, or at least tense them slightly
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[QUOTE=AdamWW;1639676183]One big issue with the picture of him is that he’s stretching upward and not flexing his abs…
I agree with your assessment based on the pose he’s taking… I don’t see sub 20% based on that.
However, sometimes when people suck in, they lose all an definition because their insertions are shallow
I’d want to see him crunch his abs in and not stretch them out, or at least tense them slightly[/QUOTE]
I'll take a new one tomorrow. Yesterday was leg day, and for some reason I always gain a lot of water weight after leg day. Compared to yesterday even I look like the stay puft marshmallow man right now. Will hit the sauna later this morning to help somewhat.
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[QUOTE=brianadelstein;1639666723]Thanks for your thoughts. Fun fact: I actually have gained strength not lost it during this cut. Though I know muscle is impossible not to lose in a cut. So go figure that pickle.
Once I lose another 4 lbs I'm going to do a full body composition analysis. It kind of boggles my mind that even though I look better than my last check-in and have lost more visible fat, the bf estimate I hear hasn't changed. I'm really curious to see how the proof matches the pudding.
I know of course everyone means well, but to me 20-22 seems high when I see that range on pics like attached. I probably sound like a broken record, but I'd have guessed 18-19 by now.
In any event, as small as I am now- how far away can I really be from 15-16 percent? Maybe my pics seem like I'm bigger or wider but I'm a small stature dude with a thin bone frame.[/QUOTE]
You can gain muscle in a cut, plenty of studies show considerable body recomposition in a calorie deficit. It’s going to be easier the higher your BF is, the less training experience you have and the smaller the calorie deficit is.
I am not sure the «body composition analysis» will be any more precise than the estimates from people here...
I still think you should go all out for gaining mass instead of cutting further. You don’t need to eat in a surplus for that, maintenance is enough for many people.
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[QUOTE=EiFit91;1639687383]You can gain muscle in a cut, plenty of studies show considerable body recomposition in a calorie deficit. It’s going to be easier the higher your BF is, the less training experience you have and the smaller the calorie deficit is.
I am not sure the «body composition analysis» will be any more precise than the estimates from people here...
I still think you should go all out for gaining mass instead of cutting further. You don’t need to eat in a surplus for that, maintenance is enough for many people.[/QUOTE]
I had back surgery last summer to replace a cervical disc. So I'm kind of a comeback kid. A trainer at my gym was surprised I'd even be able to lift again afterwards.
I'm not sure I want to put on slabs of mass if it's going to make it harder on my cervical spine. So I lift for strength, not really for bulk. I have my physical this Friday, I'll ask my doctor for his definitive word on it.
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[QUOTE=AdamWW;1639676063]The pictures you shared in that example chart have ranges that are WAY too big
You can’t have one picture for everything between 15 and 20%[/QUOTE]
Agree with this. I have found the more attention you pay to this thread, the better you will be at gaining a reasonable understanding of what bf% looks like.
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[QUOTE=Mateo217;1639694263]Agree with this. I have found the more attention you pay to this thread, the better you will be at gaining a reasonable understanding of what bf% looks like.[/QUOTE]
Here's the updated pic with just a mild midsection flex.
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[QUOTE=brianadelstein;1639694563]Here's the updated pic with just a mild midsection flex.[/QUOTE]
Your waist looks smaller in that picture, but the lack definition/separation in the abs, obliques, arms, chest, all still point to being at least 20%
You're definitely not 25%... but i'm still seeing about 20%
Not sure if I've posted this before... but here are some examples of how I see bodyfats up to ~20%:
[B]7-8%[/B]
[img]https://www.muscleandfitness.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/1109-Bodybuilder-Abs-GettyImages-530503912.jpg?quality=86&strip=all[/img]
[B]
10%[/B]
[img]https://cdn.gymaholic.co/articles/120-men-lean-strong-home-workout-routine/men-lean-strong-home-workout-routine.jpg[/img]
[B]12% - 13%[/B]
[img]https://cdn.ruled.me/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/male-10-percent-body-fat.jpeg[/img]
[img]https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTvSmMsV03BbBLBiND3Xuaq1HqVFlVOvbLh1Q&usqp=CAU[/img]
[B]15%[/B]
[img]https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/b/fit-young-athlete-moody-portrait-very-lean-brunette-man-34308219.jpg[/img]
[B]17-18%[/B]
[img]https://cdn.digg.com/images/589e4e4fe9b14617808b5b9a5178c2a8_ee8fa5abe89f49899e0a4d55458bcefe_header.jpeg[/img]
[B]20-22%[/B]
[img]https://media.socastsrm.com/wordpress/wp-content/blogs.dir/868/files/2019/06/dad-bod-leo.jpg[/img]
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I trust your judgement but..the dude in the 17-18 range here though. His arms look like play dough. Make mine look ripped by comparison. Especially in person..by their sides taking pictures not as much. I see near zero definition on this dude overall. And the torso body hair creates more illusion of bodyfat. Just another taller dude getting the benefit of the doubt in the bf department on first glance.
I don't see how he's lower bf than me. I'd have pegged him at 20-22, if you hadn't said otherwise. Not that this is about him, just saying. It's hard to understand.
[QUOTE=AdamWW;1639701333]Your waist looks smaller in that picture, but the lack definition/separation in the abs, obliques, arms, chest, all still point to being at least 20%
You're definitely not 25%... but i'm still seeing about 20%
Not sure if I've posted this before... but here are some examples of how I see bodyfats up to ~20%:
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I mean those are my examples man… and my opinion on where you’re at.
It’s fine if you disagree or want to wait for others to chime in, but so far my assessments have been very consistent and it seems like most people are agreeing on the subject.
None of what I’m saying is a personal thing… I’m just telling you what I’m seeing.
I don’t think trying to justify why my opinion is what it is will go anywhere. Like I said, you’re free to disagree, and you’ve made great progress.
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Perhaps I'm just asking too close apart at monthly intervals. Because it seems like I'm losing even still, but the assessments don't change. And this is where my frustration probably lies. Or perhaps the battle is mostly in my own head. For sure if you don't win there it doesn't happen in reality.
Don't get me wrong, I couldn't have made it this far without my peers here. I posted not too long ago that I had all but given up on losing weight again. I learned how to count macros like a pro, and give myself nothing extra for working out.
I just want to shift gears again, all the while respecting my previous injury and getting there despite it.
QUOTE=AdamWW;1639704083]I mean those are my examples man… and my opinion on where you’re at.
It’s fine if you disagree or want to wait for others to chime in, but so far my assessments have been very consistent and it seems like most people are agreeing on the subject.
None of what I’m saying is a personal thing… I’m just telling you what I’m seeing.
I don’t think trying to justify why my opinion is what it is will go anywhere. Like I said, you’re free to disagree, and you’ve made great progress.[/QUOTE]
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Any guesstimates to what body weight I should reach for 10-12 % bodyfat for that adonias belt?
Currently 170lbs and 5"10.[B] Honestly can't tell if it's because I have wide hips ruining my V adonias belt shape.[/B] I have 165kg deadlift 2reps and 130kg squat 3 reps.
Not flexing at all in photos. Thinking about dropping down to 155-160 lbs to get to around 22 bmi which will be below average weight for my height.
With tape measure method it says I''m 10 - 11% bodyfat. 30.5 inch waist.
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[QUOTE=DeathEdgeSlayer;1639704943]Any guesstimates to what body weight I should reach for 10-12 % bodyfat for that adonias belt?
Currently 170lbs and 5"10.[B] Honestly can't tell if it's because I have wide hips ruining my V adonias belt shape.[/B] I have 165kg deadlift 2reps and 130kg squat 3 reps.
Not flexing at all in photos. Thinking about dropping down to 155-160 lbs to get to around 22 bmi which will be below average weight for my height.
With tape measure method it says I''m 10 - 11% bodyfat. 30.5 inch waist.[/QUOTE]
You can’t measure bodyfat with a tape measure…
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[QUOTE=brianadelstein;1639704633]Perhaps I'm just asking too close apart at monthly intervals. Because it seems like I'm losing even still, but the assessments don't change. And this is where my frustration probably lies. Or perhaps the battle is mostly in my own head. For sure if you don't win there it doesn't happen in reality.
Don't get me wrong, I couldn't have made it this far without my peers here. I posted not too long ago that I had all but given up on losing weight again. I learned how to count macros like a pro, and give myself nothing extra for working out.
I just want to shift gears again, all the while respecting my previous injury and getting there despite it.
QUOTE=AdamWW;1639704083]I mean those are my examples man… and my opinion on where you’re at.
It’s fine if you disagree or want to wait for others to chime in, but so far my assessments have been very consistent and it seems like most people are agreeing on the subject.
None of what I’m saying is a personal thing… I’m just telling you what I’m seeing.
I don’t think trying to justify why my opinion is what it is will go anywhere. Like I said, you’re free to disagree, and you’ve made great progress.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]
This is why I suggested going for mass building instead of cutting further. I think that you will be able to "recomp" your way into a better body composition in that way and not have to keep "spinning your wheels" cutting further down. I may be wrong on this of course, it's only a suggestion. I don't think you have to lift heavy to build mass, you can do higher reps (up to about 30 reps builds mass as long as you take the reps close enough to failure). And of course you should always do this in consultation with your doctor; but if you are already strength training while cutting now it seems like this is already something you have been given a green light to do? I would honestly think it's more risky to lift heavy while cutting than while maintaining your weight.
At your height, a 1 pound increase in lean mass will be much more noticeable than on a taller guy which also works to your advantage.
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[QUOTE=EiFit91;1639706683][/QUOTE]
This is why I suggested going for mass building instead of cutting further. I think that you will be able to "recomp" your way into a better body composition in that way and not have to keep "spinning your wheels" cutting further down. I may be wrong on this of course, it's only a suggestion. I don't think you have to lift heavy to build mass, you can do higher reps (up to about 30 reps builds mass as long as you take the reps close enough to failure). And of course you should always do this in consultation with your doctor; but if you are already strength training while cutting now it seems like this is already something you have been given a green light to do? I would honestly think it's more risky to lift heavy while cutting than while maintaining your weight.
At your height, a 1 pound increase in lean mass will be much more noticeable than on a taller guy which also works to your advantage.[/QUOTE]
I will consider it. Really. But..
The target has moved since I last met with my doctor. I need a new opinion before I decide what comes next in terms of a pivot, to gain or to cut and how- given my medical history and up to date labs, etc. I have the appointment set for Friday.
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[QUOTE=AdamWW;1639706343]You can’t measure bodyfat with a tape measure…[/QUOTE] Can't seem to measure with tape measure, dexa scan, hydrostatic anything according to you.
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[QUOTE=DeathEdgeSlayer;1639708613]Can't seem to measure with tape measure, dexa scan, hydrostatic anything according to you.[/QUOTE]
What on earth are you talking about?
MRI > DEXA > Hydro Static > Calipers > BIA/Measurements.
In that order, that is how accurate they are.
However, EVERY method of measurement using those tools is subject to errors and issue when it comes to individual variability in fluids, etc.
Not sure whats up your azz today, but I have never said anything of the sort.
Maybe go make some friends so you can be less butt-hurt.
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Estimate my body fat
Hi everyone I’m back for a body fat estimate acc to me I feel like I’m around 12-14%… I’m 20 years of age 6,1 174.. what would you guys estimate my body fat to be.. thank in advance :) pictures are in my gallery
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[QUOTE=sethiayush12;1639768073]Hi everyone I’m back for a body fat estimate acc to me I feel like I’m around 12-14%… I’m 20 years of age 6,1 174.. what would you guys estimate my body fat to be.. thank in advance :) pictures are in my gallery[/QUOTE]
This is a tough call.
If I were just going off your upper abs, legs, and arms, i'd say you're around 12-13%... but you hold more fat/loose skin on your navel area which does make it much harder to judge.
I'm guessing somewhere around 13-ish could be possible... but it's a really difficult one for me.
How lean is your back?
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[QUOTE=AdamWW;1639775113]This is a tough call.
If I were just going off your upper abs, legs, and arms, i'd say you're around 12-13%... but you hold more fat/loose skin on your navel area which does make it much harder to judge.
I'm guessing somewhere around 13-ish could be possible... but it's a really difficult one for me.
How lean is your back?[/QUOTE]
My back is also pretty lean like my arms and legs the only think which confuses me is my abs.. if it wasn’t for my lower abs I would be around 12 or 11% but being this low and not having a single lower ab confuses me.. I guess my fat storage genetics are to blame
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[QUOTE=sethiayush12;1639776993]My back is also pretty lean like my arms and legs the only think which confuses me is my abs.. if it wasn’t for my lower abs I would be around 12 or 11% but being this low and not having a single lower ab confuses me.. I guess my fat storage genetics are to blame[/QUOTE]
This is me, very tired lol
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[QUOTE=brandonxtgold;1639782873]This is me, very tired lol[/QUOTE]
good work
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~13% sounds accurate thx Mateo and Adam. I uploaded pics taken in sunlight since that first pic wasn’t great quality. At 10% do you think my obliques and lower abs will show, or will I have to shoot for like 8%?
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[QUOTE=userPYXIOLYCMZP;1639923523]~13% sounds accurate thx Mateo and Adam. I uploaded pics taken in sunlight since that first pic wasn’t great quality. At 10% do you think my obliques and lower abs will show, or will I have to shoot for like 8%?[/QUOTE]
All of this is irrelevant because you should be bulking, not cutting.
If you got any leaner/lighter, you'd be carried away by a mild wind (only kidding).
Focus on building mass... not cutting. Cut when you're closer to your natural limits... in like, 3 years maybe.
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Body Fat Estimate?
Good morning everyone, just wanted to get everyone’s thoughts on my bf% , still can’t add pictures directly so I’ve added 3 into my dashboard from a front/side/back. If you could please take a look and let me know your thoughts that would be awesome. 5’7 and 135ish just had a 10lb cut and looking to bulk up big time this upcoming fall —> spring.
Thank you all.
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[QUOTE=pears539;1640042463]Good morning everyone, just wanted to get everyone’s thoughts on my bf% , still can’t add pictures directly so I’ve added 3 into my dashboard from a front/side/back. If you could please take a look and let me know your thoughts that would be awesome. 5’7 and 135ish just had a 10lb cut and looking to bulk up big time this upcoming fall —> spring.
Thank you all.[/QUOTE]looking solid, i'd say 13-15%
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[QUOTE=faithbrah;1640044673]looking solid, i'd say 13-15%[/QUOTE]
Thank you man 👊 much appreciated
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Hello guys. I am 6ft 2 and 207 lbs. Check my gallery for pics, what do u think my bodyfat are at rn? Thanks alot in advance
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[QUOTE=lucasdfr;1640107933]Hello guys. I am 6ft 2 and 207 lbs. Check my gallery for pics, what do u think my bodyfat are at rn? Thanks alot in advance[/QUOTE]hard to say but i'd guess around 20%
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[QUOTE=faithbrah;1640112253]hard to say but i'd guess around 20%[/QUOTE]
Ty for your respond bro, thats what I was guessing too. Somewhere around 18-20%
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Body fat estimate
Last time I posted it was estimated at 18-20% and that was 2 months ago.
What do you think?
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[QUOTE=PushPull2;1640113453]What is My Body Fat Percentage ?
Below photo and pritn from inbody[/QUOTE]
I would say 16% or so