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[QUOTE=RedFeathers;1595191901]Thanks for taking the time to write all that, it’s a big help.
If I bulk very slowly like you suggest, is it possible that I won’t even have to ever do a dedicated cut for an extended period of time ?(I’m never gonna compete in physique shows so I doubt I’ll ever want to go below 10% body fat). So in a way I basically can just be permanently recomping if you know what I mean?
Ive got my training sorted out now (it’s been a mess this past year) so I’ll do everything you suggested regarding nutrition and I can now put this past year behind me and focus on putting on some muscle.[/QUOTE]
Basically yes. I have seen a lot of lean individuals on this forum adopt that style and remain lean all the time its more of self-control some people can do ad lib feeding by hunger cues and some (like me) have to count every calorie it depends on your appetite and general natural TDEE maintenance. That said if you want to add significant amount of size gaining fat is highly likely (you stated 10lbs weight gain you could aim to add that in one year and you should be able to maintain your lean level and probably only add a couple of % bf if taken slowly enough).
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[QUOTE=hardyboysare;1595195691]Basically yes. I have seen a lot of lean individuals on this forum adopt that style and remain lean all the time its more of self-control some people can do ad lib feeding by hunger cues and some (like me) have to count every calorie it depends on your appetite and general natural TDEE maintenance. That said if you want to add significant amount of size gaining fat is highly likely (you stated 10lbs weight gain you could aim to add that in one year and you should be able to maintain your lean level and probably only add a couple of % bf if taken slowly enough).[/QUOTE]
Hell yeah, I like the sound of that. The less cutting, the better! I'm excited to make some gainz this year :D
Thanks again for your help dude
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I don’t post here often, but I was hoping for a quick body fat % estimate, based on my avatar (got another one in my gallery).
5’7 158 lbs if that helps.
Thanks for your input!
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[QUOTE=rhanlan;1595326951]I don’t post here often, but I was hoping for a quick body fat % estimate, based on my avatar (got another one in my gallery).
5’7 158 lbs if that helps.
Thanks for your input![/QUOTE]
Around 13%
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[QUOTE=hardyboysare;1595334091]Around 13%[/QUOTE]
Ok, got my work cut out.
Thanks man, I appreciate it 👍
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Hi everyone, I’m 20 years old, approx 6’0” flat and 188 lbs. If I had to guess I’d say I’m 15ish% bodyfat and I’m trying to cut to 12%, I’d like to get some other opinions though in case I’m being too generous with myself. Pics are on bodyspace here since I don’t have enough forum posts to have images. Appreciate any feedback, thanks!!
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[QUOTE=WillyFuss;1595342321]Hi everyone, I’m 20 years old, approx 6’0” flat and 188 lbs. If I had to guess I’d say I’m 15ish% bodyfat and I’m trying to cut to 12%, I’d like to get some other opinions though in case I’m being too generous with myself. Pics are on bodyspace here since I don’t have enough forum posts to have images. Appreciate any feedback, thanks!![/QUOTE]
About right I would have you around 15% maybe a touch higher. Aiming around 175-178lbs will probably have at 12% near enough.
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[QUOTE=hardyboysare;1595374801]About right I would have you around 15% maybe a touch higher. Aiming around 175-178lbs will probably have at 12% near enough.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the input man, just curious, if I was 15-16% now wouldn’t 12% be more like 180-181? I feel like 175 would be like 10%?
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[QUOTE=WillyFuss;1595389081]Thanks for the input man, just curious, if I was 15-16% now wouldn’t 12% be more like 180-181? I feel like 175 would be like 10%?[/QUOTE]
The only problem with general maths for fat percentage loss is that the loss of water weight is not considered likewise other factors such as lean mass may reduce and the proportional divide over the body of your current fat may cause some areas to be lower bf% then others so visually the whole percentage looks higher. Likewise usually you have to be lower then you expect in order to reach your given body fat percentage.
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Bf% estimate for the left and the right picture ? Been cutting for 6 weeks from 203lbs to 182lbs, I'm 5f11.
[url]https://imgur.com/a/8b7Yrgg[/url]
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[QUOTE=Naite123;1595460341]Bf% estimate for the left and the right picture ? Been cutting for 6 weeks from 203lbs to 182lbs, I'm 5f11.
[url]https://imgur.com/a/8b7Yrgg[/url][/QUOTE]
Left:- Around 23-24%
Right:- 18-19%
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Hello, what is the current bodyfat you think? 5ft 8inches 166lbs
[url]https://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/gallery-photo/232446081/20cd2f0d35e94534b500d54521a53670-610xh.jpg[/url]
Do you see any improvement in muscle mass since the last picture in bodyspace gallery?
I got tired of cutting and spinning wheels at maintenance so To take a break, I’m eating a slight surplus right now - aiming to gain 1lb per month.
P.s. I think I look exactly the same as before (maybe a slightly bigger gut). lol...this definitely ain’t easy but I’m not quitting. At least I’m getting stronger and most (not all) lifts Are going up
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Estimates for both pictures please. Thanks in advance!
First pic is 2 months ago. I feel like I've made progress but I dont have a scale anymore so I cant say for sure
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htt ps://imgur. com/a/X806DbT
5'9 147lbs, debating as to whether I should bulk on a small surplus or cut.
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Progress
Can I get Bodyfat estimate please. Pictures in bodyspace. I used the measuring tape and it says about 20.7% bodyfat and how much weight do you reckon I need to lose before lean bulking.
Thank you
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[QUOTE=shahzoo;1595657061]Can I get Bodyfat estimate please. Pictures in bodyspace. I used the measuring tape and it says about 20.7% bodyfat and how much weight do you reckon I need to lose before lean bulking.
Thank you[/QUOTE]
Around 20% sounds about right depends on your current weight but most likely around 10-15lbs would be probably be fine before you bulk (you won't be 10% but in a good place to bulk)
[QUOTE=Suther2;1595653711]htt ps://imgur. com/a/X806DbT
5'9 147lbs, debating as to whether I should bulk on a small surplus or cut.[/QUOTE]
14% around you should be bulking.
[QUOTE=hamo685;1595609841]Estimates for both pictures please. Thanks in advance!
First pic is 2 months ago. I feel like I've made progress but I dont have a scale anymore so I cant say for sure[/QUOTE]
Yes it seems you have (of course could be the picture, you really should take weight and measurements) but I would say around 18%.
[QUOTE=TryingBB;1595539261]Hello, what is the current bodyfat you think? 5ft 8inches 166lbs
[url]https://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/gallery-photo/232446081/20cd2f0d35e94534b500d54521a53670-610xh.jpg[/url]
Do you see any improvement in muscle mass since the last picture in bodyspace gallery?
I got tired of cutting and spinning wheels at maintenance so To take a break, I’m eating a slight surplus right now - aiming to gain 1lb per month.
P.s. I think I look exactly the same as before (maybe a slightly bigger gut). lol...this definitely ain’t easy but I’m not quitting. At least I’m getting stronger and most (not all) lifts Are going up[/QUOTE]
I honestly I can't see any difference but even I can't notice if you have gained 1lb of muscle since December. Just keep at it and ensure you keep the surplus to 1lb a month and then review in 6 months. You have to stick to one way or the other providing your numbers are going up then nothing to be concerned about as getting stronger and a small weight gain will not get you excessively fatter not will any muscle loss occur.
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[QUOTE=hamo685;1595609841]Estimates for both pictures please. Thanks in advance!
First pic is 2 months ago. I feel like I've made progress but I dont have a scale anymore so I cant say for sure[/QUOTE]
Bump.
Thanks hardboysare! What about my before picture if you could?
Thanks! Just trying to figure something out lol.
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[QUOTE=hamo685;1595697971]Bump.
Thanks hardboysare! What about my before picture if you could?
Thanks! Just trying to figure something out lol.[/QUOTE]
Sorry missed that part. Looks like 23/24%
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[QUOTE=hardyboysare;1595695471]I honestly I can't see any difference but even I can't notice if you have gained 1lb of muscle since December. Just keep at it and ensure you keep the surplus to 1lb a month and then review in 6 months. You have to stick to one way or the other providing your numbers are going up then nothing to be concerned about as getting stronger and a small weight gain will not get you excessively fatter not will any muscle loss occur.[/QUOTE]
Thanks. What do you think the current bodyfat is? [url]https://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/gallery-photo/232446081/20cd2f0d35e94534b500d54521a53670-610xh.jpg[/url]
I keep wondering what if I tried gaining 2lbs a month instead of 1lb a month?
Would my muscle gain be similar in both situations? At 1lb per month weight gain will my body try to use the fat stores for energy and MUSCLE GAINS will be the same as 2lbs per month?
Thanks
P.s. I’ve read it’s normal to feel fat on a bulk. I’m gaining only 1lb per month and still I feel like I’m actively getting Fat and bloated. lol. Like around my love handles and stomach region there is this creepy feeling that tells my brain that I’m getting fat. In the mirror I’m looking better imo but the fat feeling is not good specially after loosing so much weight. Question is, is this feeling normal even at such a slow bulk?
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Could i get a bf% estimate? 1,80m, 72 kg~ and 19 years old. htt ps://imgur. com/a/FnD6mtx
Been on a lean bulk for 1,5 month now ( obviously not a long time to see any body change really but asking can't hurt )
i have greatly increased my strength though.
Squat 65kg 8x to 87.5kg 6x
OHP 32.5kg 6x to 50kg 4x
Deadlift 85kg 6x to 107.5kg 6x
Bench 65kg 4x to 77.5kg 4x
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Hello,
Can I get an estimate of my bodyfat? I'm 5'9'' and down to 205 from 230. 27 Years old
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(Imgur) /a/FiSQ7xC
**cant post link because new account**
Hello!
New poster but have been lifting for ~3 years but the past year has been focused on BJJ.
5’7 ~160lbs and I want to know body fat. I’m guessing around 16% but idk.
I’ve been on a perpetual mild cut/maintenance but I’m stalling HARD now (I follow CICO well but idk).
B: 220
S: 275
D: 335
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Posting again because I'm getting impatient with my 5 1/2 month long cut now...
Down from 194 lbs to 163.5 lbs currently. My lifts have not dropped in strength (they've been stalled for a long time), but I'm extremely grateful that I haven't lost any significant strength.
My goal is to get cut enough to where I can start doing a lean bulk. How much longer should I cut for before I lean bulk? What do you think would be an ideal weight for me to start slow bulking at?
Attached are some pictures with my current state.
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[QUOTE=Moelijk;1595716321]Could i get a bf% estimate? 1,80m, 72 kg~ and 19 years old. htt ps://imgur. com/a/FnD6mtx
Been on a lean bulk for 1,5 month now ( obviously not a long time to see any body change really but asking can't hurt )
i have greatly increased my strength though.
Squat 65kg 8x to 87.5kg 6x
OHP 32.5kg 6x to 50kg 4x
Deadlift 85kg 6x to 107.5kg 6x
Bench 65kg 4x to 77.5kg 4x[/QUOTE]
18% near enough
[QUOTE=bbporter1;1595717321]Hello,
Can I get an estimate of my bodyfat? I'm 5'9'' and down to 205 from 230. 27 Years old[/QUOTE]
About 25%
[QUOTE=GrapplingSloth;1595725271](Imgur) /a/FiSQ7xC
**cant post link because new account**
Hello!
New poster but have been lifting for ~3 years but the past year has been focused on BJJ.
5’7 ~160lbs and I want to know body fat. I’m guessing around 16% but idk.
I’ve been on a perpetual mild cut/maintenance but I’m stalling HARD now (I follow CICO well but idk).
B: 220
S: 275
D: 335[/QUOTE]
Tad higher in view at 17-18%. If you wish to lose more weight you will have to put yourself in a greater deficit. Drop calories by 300 and the weight will start dropping.
[QUOTE=Zelqui;1595765681]Posting again because I'm getting impatient with my 5 1/2 month long cut now...
Down from 194 lbs to 163.5 lbs currently. My lifts have not dropped in strength (they've been stalled for a long time), but I'm extremely grateful that I haven't lost any significant strength.
My goal is to get cut enough to where I can start doing a lean bulk. How much longer should I cut for before I lean bulk? What do you think would be an ideal weight for me to start slow bulking at?
Attached are some pictures with my current state.[/QUOTE]
You are at 15-16% near enough in my view. You look pretty lean but I imagine you want slight more leanness for the warmer months coming therefore personally you don't look small therefore you can carry on cutting. 6 months is quite a long time but not extreme therefore you could go to maintenance TDEE (minus 200 calories for good measure) and run that for a 2 weeks - 1 month to give yourself a break and then hit a cut again until you hit between 150-155lbs that way you will look lean for the summer.
If you aren't struggling to lose weight then I would just crack on and suffer and lose more fat. I know the feeling cuts suck but the occasional break can help with mental aspect and some small hormonal issues.
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[QUOTE=TryingBB;1595707001]Thanks. What do you think the current bodyfat is? [url]https://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/gallery-photo/232446081/20cd2f0d35e94534b500d54521a53670-610xh.jpg[/url]
I keep wondering what if I tried gaining 2lbs a month instead of 1lb a month?
Would my muscle gain be similar in both situations? At 1lb per month weight gain will my body try to use the fat stores for energy and MUSCLE GAINS will be the same as 2lbs per month?
Thanks
P.s. I’ve read it’s normal to feel fat on a bulk. I’m gaining only 1lb per month and still I feel like I’m actively getting Fat and bloated. lol. Like around my love handles and stomach region there is this creepy feeling that tells my brain that I’m getting fat. In the mirror I’m looking better imo but the fat feeling is not good specially after loosing so much weight. Question is, is this feeling normal even at such a slow bulk?[/QUOTE]
Around 21-22% I would say.
Personally adding more weight is no guarantee that more muscle will be built it depends if you wish to risk gaining more fat, technically being in a caloric surplus will ensure that you have enough energy for growth and its very unlikely you will utilise stored fat as the energy supply that only occurs in a caloric deficit. Being in a greater caloric surplus is no certainty for more muscle. Personally if I was getting stronger and increasing work volume I see no point adding more calories as you are already improving.
[url]https://sci-fit.net/bulking-deficit-gaining/[/url]
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[QUOTE=hardyboysare;1595802191]18% near enough
About 25%
Tad higher in view at 17-18%. If you wish to lose more weight you will have to put yourself in a greater deficit. Drop calories by 300 and the weight will start dropping.
You are at 15-16% near enough in my view. You look pretty lean but I imagine you want slight more leanness for the warmer months coming therefore personally you don't look small therefore you can carry on cutting. 6 months is quite a long time but not extreme therefore you could go to maintenance TDEE (minus 200 calories for good measure) and run that for a 2 weeks - 1 month to give yourself a break and then hit a cut again until you hit between 150-155lbs that way you will look lean for the summer.
If you aren't struggling to lose weight then I would just crack on and suffer and lose more fat. I know the feeling cuts suck but the occasional break can help with mental aspect and some small hormonal issues.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I'm definitely not struggling to lose weight. I also don't really mind how lean I am during the warmer months, as my main concern is just being able to slow bulk to put on some quality mass and increase strength. Because of this, I don't mind continuing the cut especially if I'm closer to the tail end.
I've been losing about 2 lbs per week for the last couple of months, and honestly it's not really affecting my ability to workout too much or anything like that. Do you think I can continue to lose at this rate as long as I'm feeling fine and can lift? What bodyfat do you estimate that I would be at around 155 lbs? Seems like a low weight to me, but damn I'd be curious to see how much leaner I am at that point.
Also -- thank you so much for your detailed replies. They have been extraordinarily helpful to me and everyone else.
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Bodyfat check
Hi ive been bulking for 3 months can i have a bodyfat % estimate. Im now 160lbs at 5'7
[url]https://m.imgur.com/a/H2IX8Cf[/url]
Thanks in advance
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Hi. Looking for some feedback based off the following photos I took yesterday. I've been cutting since the beginning of August after a LONG hiatus from the gym. I am 6'5". Starting weight was ~111kg. The photos below I weighed in at 95kg. So, 16kg lost which I'm very pleased with. Weight training has been either minimalist full body or an upper/lower split. Calorie intake has been between 1500 and 2000 calories (maintenance is ~2400 calories). While I've lost a good deal of fat, there are still a couple of problem areas I'd like to trim down, but I'm reasonably happy with where I've got to. Unfortunately energy levels have suffered and I'm concerned if I keep persevering with the cut I'll just look like a smaller version of what I currently am, rather than coming out the other end with the lean, defined look I'm after.
I am VERY keen to switch to a long-term muscle building focus and start eating at maintenance. My main concern was retaining whatever muscle I had when I started cutting and I think I've done an okay job on that front. So, do you reckon I've trimmed enough off to justify switching gears? Thanks in advance.
PS - just to note re: the front pic - I am quite wide in the hips. So where it flares out a bit is partly my skeletal structure rather than just fat (just in case it's not obvious in the photo).
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[QUOTE=Zelqui;1595817321]Yeah, I'm definitely not struggling to lose weight. I also don't really mind how lean I am during the warmer months, as my main concern is just being able to slow bulk to put on some quality mass and increase strength. Because of this, I don't mind continuing the cut especially if I'm closer to the tail end.
I've been losing about 2 lbs per week for the last couple of months, and honestly it's not really affecting my ability to workout too much or anything like that. Do you think I can continue to lose at this rate as long as I'm feeling fine and can lift? What bodyfat do you estimate that I would be at around 155 lbs? Seems like a low weight to me, but damn I'd be curious to see how much leaner I am at that point.
Also -- thank you so much for your detailed replies. They have been extraordinarily helpful to me and everyone else.[/QUOTE]
You can build muscle at any given fat percentage really so that shouldn't be your concern if you are planning to cut lean for that reason alone. The idea of cutting within the 10-15% range is very much an arbitrary statement based on theory of testosterone producing is optimal during this phase, that said I have seen no solid science that backs that statement, yes getting overweight seems to have an effect but again this is really only noticeable when obese.
The main reason for the 10-15% range is basically you can see your work and less time needed to cut for the leanness you wish to achieve. If that is not a concern then their is absolute no harm bulking in the 15-23% bracket really you just won't see your work as easily.
I always believe in just finishing one route before moving on I find moving to maintenance just prolong the pains. From what I have seen you will always be lower weight wise then you expect once you cut to basically lean so remember its just a number it doesn't really matter. If I took a best guess I would think around 12-13% maybe possible lower depending on the water loss but around that percentage seems about right.
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[QUOTE=wickedsushi;1595829601]Hi. Looking for some feedback based off the following photos I took yesterday. I've been cutting since the beginning of August after a LONG hiatus from the gym. I am 6'5". Starting weight was ~111kg. The photos below I weighed in at 95kg. So, 16kg lost which I'm very pleased with. Weight training has been either minimalist full body or an upper/lower split. Calorie intake has been between 1500 and 2000 calories (maintenance is ~2400 calories). While I've lost a good deal of fat, there are still a couple of problem areas I'd like to trim down, but I'm reasonably happy with where I've got to. Unfortunately energy levels have suffered and I'm concerned if I keep persevering with the cut I'll just look like a smaller version of what I currently am, rather than coming out the other end with the lean, defined look I'm after.
I am VERY keen to switch to a long-term muscle building focus and start eating at maintenance. My main concern was retaining whatever muscle I had when I started cutting and I think I've done an okay job on that front. So, do you reckon I've trimmed enough off to justify switching gears? Thanks in advance.
PS - just to note re: the front pic - I am quite wide in the hips. So where it flares out a bit is partly my skeletal structure rather than just fat (just in case it's not obvious in the photo).[/QUOTE]
Yes you are plenty lean enough to start bulking. Keep a small surplus aiming gain around 2lbs a month. I would say you are about 16%
[QUOTE=GeofGolden;1595828361]Hi ive been bulking for 3 months can i have a bodyfat % estimate. Im now 160lbs at 5'7
[url]https://m.imgur.com/a/H2IX8Cf[/url]
Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]
Around 18-19% cant see any obvious fat gains since your previous request so keep up the progress providing you are getting stronger.