https ://imgur.com/a/VA6WWto
This is where I currently stand. I dont have a lot of muscle mass so Im not sure if I should continue cutting for long, even though I still have a considerable amount of fat. What would be ideal in my situation?
5’8 168
https ://imgur.com/a/VA6WWto
This is where I currently stand. I dont have a lot of muscle mass so Im not sure if I should continue cutting for long, even though I still have a considerable amount of fat. What would be ideal in my situation?
5’8 168
[QUOTE=birdoandratchet;1590545091]Pics on my profile, M18/6'2"/179lbs[/QUOTE]
Around 16%
[QUOTE=Nykk2077;1590546181]thanks! would you say I'm skinny fat or what?[/QUOTE]
No as you have a V shape which most individuals who are 'undertrained' dont have one. And also your core is noticeable at a higher bf%. You just need to cut some fat to look a little bit leaner. An individual who is 'skinny fat' isn't usually advised to cut they are advised to workout.
[QUOTE=danny287;1590554401]https ://imgur.com/a/VA6WWto
This is where I currently stand. I dont have a lot of muscle mass so Im not sure if I should continue cutting for long, even though I still have a considerable amount of fat. What would be ideal in my situation?
5’8 168[/QUOTE]
You don't have considerable amount of fat you actually look pretty lean IMO.
Bulking would be my advice at a rate of around 2lbs a month and then cutting again in around 6 months (if weight gain is controlled which is key)
Bf% - 16%
[QUOTE=hardyboysare;1590570911]Around 16%
No as you have a V shape which most individuals who are 'undertrained' dont have one. And also your core is noticeable at a higher bf%. You just need to cut some fat to look a little bit leaner. An individual who is 'skinny fat' isn't usually advised to cut they are advised to workout.
You don't have considerable amount of fat you actually look pretty lean IMO.
Bulking would be my advice at a rate of around 2lbs a month and then cutting again in around 6 months (if weight gain is controlled which is key)
Bf% - 16%[/QUOTE]
I like to think Im pretty lean, at least in the mornings before I eat or drink anything but typically in the middle of the day I’ll look like this https ://imgur.com/a/iKzJXTq and it makes me think another 5-10 lbs fat loss wouldnt be terrible
[QUOTE=danny287;1590577891]I like to think Im pretty lean, at least in the mornings before I eat or drink anything but typically in the middle of the day I’ll look like this https ://imgur.com/a/iKzJXTq and it makes me think another 5-10 lbs fat loss wouldnt be terrible[/QUOTE]
Its your choice at the end of the day either way won't kill you and is not extreme in leanness to cause muscle lose. But I can ensure you even in your middle day pic you still look leaner then most individuals. Everyone looks puffier by the end of the day (ok most who eat normally) as they have more food in their system and extra water weight.
By the end of the day most of my six pack is gone even when I am at my leanest it just happen when you eat more.
Like I said though choice is your just don't try and aim to have ripped abs or anything like that yet as cutting that low will cause you to look small. If you want more core definition fine but not too much or diminished returns will occur.
[QUOTE=hardyboysare;1590582631]Its your choice at the end of the day either way won't kill you and is not extreme in leanness to cause muscle lose. But I can ensure you even in your middle day pic you still look leaner then most individuals. Everyone looks puffier by the end of the day (ok most who eat normally) as they have more food in their system and extra water weight.
By the end of the day most of my six pack is gone even when I am at my leanest it just happen when you eat more.
Like I said though choice is your just don't try and aim to have ripped abs or anything like that yet as cutting that low will cause you to look small. If you want more core definition fine but not too much or diminished returns will occur.[/QUOTE]
Thank you. Gonna go two more weeks and then follow your 2 pound a month advice. You are a big help man.
[QUOTE=hardyboysare;1590378921]Recomps are hard as discussed before and at a point it may be prudent to tackle one goal head on. As your goal is purely aesthetics sometimes allowing strength to take a hit in order to cut to the leanness you want maybe acceptable. I know when I cut I barely add any muscle I just except that as my strength plummets when I am deep in especially squats.
You will need to do both at some point (build muscle or cut fat) so if you feel you are not making enough success on a recomp at the speed you like. Recomps can take years one of the problems with them is short term goals are very difficult to see however long term goals are believed to be similar to bulking/ cutting cycles (science yet has proven different current study being conducted but results will most likely not be out until 2021).
Therefore you will consider if you are happy with your progress if not then pick one goal losing fat or building muscle. If you are happy run with the calories you have stated and progress as much as possible but even then you will stall at some point as extra calories are required to stimulate progress. If you want to instead focus on a single target then either drop or increase calories depending what/ if you choice. The training program may need to change slightly if you choose one target but that isn't essential.[/QUOTE]
Thank you hardyboysare!! Like the other user said, you are so much help!!!!!
At my current position (pics in body space), 5ft 8inches and 168lbs, would you recommend against maintaining/recomping?
How bad would it be if I go into a slight surplus?
- goal is to be 13 to 14% bodyfat and look muscular and be 185lbs
- I am ok with current level of fat. Would perfer not to get fatter.
- I do not want to look any skinnier either
- I want to maximize my muscle gains and not be too skinny
With this goal in mind, what should I do?
I am following ICF 5x5 and making progress on my lifts.
I am currently trying recomp. Feels like body has not changed Visually for last Couple months (definitely strength has increased). eating between 2300 and 2500 calories a day (depending on hunger - but minimum 2300 calories if I’m not very hungry). 1g per lb of body weight protien most days (95% - else at least 0.8g / lb body weight)
[QUOTE=hardyboysare;1590570911]Around 16%
No as you have a V shape which most individuals who are 'undertrained' dont have one. And also your core is noticeable at a higher bf%. You just need to cut some fat to look a little bit leaner. An individual who is 'skinny fat' isn't usually advised to cut they are advised to workout.
[/QUOTE]
thanks again. Would you recommend me to cut to 12% or is it too much/unrealistic? How long/how many kgs would that take? between 7 and 9?
26 yo. 177cm My body fat calculating scale says that:
105.6 kg
24.6% bodyfat
40% muscle mass
[url]https://ibb.co/0YkLwNC[/url]
[url]https://ibb.co/wW2wbX7[/url]
Height: 6'1
Weight: 193
Pics in my Bodyspace.
I actually already know my body percentage but I was wondering if I should start cutting and end the bulk? I've acquired quite the muscle mass and im storing a lot of fat on my face (somewhat chubby) and a decent amount in my stomach. Opinions?
[QUOTE=Nykk2077;1590617331]thanks again. Would you recommend me to cut to 12% or is it too much/unrealistic? How long/how many kgs would that take? between 7 and 9?[/QUOTE]
Cutting to 12% is clearly possible. I would say around the 7kg bracket would get you close but that does depending on water weight loss.
[QUOTE=orus;1590623721]26 yo. 177cm My body fat calculating scale says that:
105.6 kg
24.6% bodyfat
40% muscle mass
[url]https://ibb.co/0YkLwNC[/url]
[url]https://ibb.co/wW2wbX7[/url][/QUOTE]
I put you a touch higher at around 28%.
[QUOTE=Swolel0;1590644071]Height: 6'1
Weight: 193
Pics in my Bodyspace.
I actually already know my body percentage but I was wondering if I should start cutting and end the bulk? I've acquired quite the muscle mass and im storing a lot of fat on my face (somewhat chubby) and a decent amount in my stomach. Opinions?[/QUOTE]
See my reply on your other post for info I am also sure other will reply as well
[QUOTE=TryingBB;1590587671]Thank you hardyboysare!! Like the other user said, you are so much help!!!!!
At my current position (pics in body space), 5ft 8inches and 168lbs, would you recommend against maintaining/recomping?
How bad would it be if I go into a slight surplus?
- goal is to be 13 to 14% bodyfat and look muscular and be 185lbs
- I am ok with current level of fat. Would perfer not to get fatter.
- I do not want to look any skinnier either
- I want to maximize my muscle gains and not be too skinny
With this goal in mind, what should I do?
I am following ICF 5x5 and making progress on my lifts.
I am currently trying recomp. Feels like body has not changed Visually for last Couple months (definitely strength has increased). eating between 2300 and 2500 calories a day (depending on hunger - but minimum 2300 calories if I’m not very hungry). 1g per lb of body weight protien most days (95% - else at least 0.8g / lb body weight)[/QUOTE]
I think it time you try to pick one goal you have made progress on a recomp as noticeable on your pics but I think results will be quicker if you choose one goal now.
I think you could get away with a bulk for a bit. You know your maintenance as you are not gaining or losing weight so you can easily control your weight increase as long as you have the self-control.
Therefore if you think bulking would be acceptable then try it for 4 months and review progress. Aim to add around 2lbs a month this will equate to around 300 calories surplus. Building muscle is the longer process so no harm in bulking up to around 180lbs then cutting down.
You will need to do both anyway so might as get a head start on the muscle front before aiming to leaner so you have more to reveal. You will need to controlled on the caloric surplus though to ensure fat gains are at an absolute minimum.
[QUOTE=hardyboysare;1590647381]I think it time you try to pick one goal you have made progress on a recomp as noticeable on your pics but I think results will be quicker if you choose one goal now.
I think you could get away with a bulk for a bit. You know your maintenance as you are not gaining or losing weight so you can easily control your weight increase as long as you have the self-control.
Therefore if you think bulking would be acceptable then try it for 4 months and review progress. Aim to add around 2lbs a month this will equate to around 300 calories surplus. Building muscle is the longer process so no harm in bulking up to around 180lbs then cutting down.
You will need to do both anyway so might as get a head start on the muscle front before aiming to leaner so you have more to reveal. You will need to controlled on the caloric surplus though to ensure fat gains are at an absolute minimum.[/QUOTE]
I’m scared to go into a surplus coming from 195lbs but I am going to do it since I do not want to get any skinnier.
Mental note: If I start feeling too fat in a month or so (lol) I will stop the surplus and cut hard to 16% or 17% before next surplus.
Thanks hardyboysare!!
I will report back every so often as an info for other users
Height: 163cm
Weight: 50kg
Female
33 yo
Currently on 1600calories, working out 4 days/week (strong curves programme + additional compound exercises like assisted pull up, weighted lunges, barbell squats etc.)
Carry most of my fat in bell and seems difficult to get rid of it easily.
[QUOTE=Frenchfries1;1590689621]Height: 163cm
Weight: 50kg
Female
33 yo
Currently on 1600calories, working out 4 days/week (strong curves programme + additional compound exercises like assisted pull up, weighted lunges, barbell squats etc.)
Carry most of my fat in bell and seems difficult to get rid of it easily.[/QUOTE]
Around 22-23%
Are you losing weight on your current caloric level.
Generally the waist is one of the last places to lose fat so just keep going. I would say your posture isn't great in the second pic which will add more size visually then you really have.
[QUOTE=Frenchfries1;1590689621]Height: 163cm
Weight: 50kg
Female
33 yo
Currently on 1600calories, working out 4 days/week (strong curves programme + additional compound exercises like assisted pull up, weighted lunges, barbell squats etc.)
Carry most of my fat in bell and seems difficult to get rid of it easily.[/QUOTE]
I'd guess a bit over 20%.
[QUOTE=hardyboysare;1590694121]Around 22-23%
Are you losing weight on your current caloric level.
Generally the waist is one of the last places to lose fat so just keep going. I would say your posture isn't great in the second pic which will add more size visually then you really have.[/QUOTE]
Thanks, my start weight is 50kg and I started weightlifting only recently, a bit more than a month now. I used to eat circa 1400 to 1600 calories, but found that I was feeling really weak and dizzy with only 1400.
I have not put on any weight at 1600, so will continue this way.
Trying to work on that posture!
Hello, I'm 5"9 and weigh 148 pounds. These two pics were taken seconds apart but in different lighting.
Thanks
ibb.co/r3L2QHL
ibb.co/0mQQzQw
[QUOTE=Frenchfries1;1590705031]Thanks, my start weight is 50kg and I started weightlifting only recently, a bit more than a month now. I used to eat circa 1400 to 1600 calories, but found that I was feeling really weak and dizzy with only 1400.
I have not put on any weight at 1600, so will continue this way.
Trying to work on that posture![/QUOTE]
You don't need to go as low as 1400 that is too low and will impact on your performance. Do you have a goal weight in consideration? or are you running a recomp as if you have only started weight training recently it maybe possible to lose fat and build muscle at the same time. You look fine so the choice of what you do is up to you.
Hi guys, any ideas?
[QUOTE=thejinkazama;1590705781]Hello, I'm 5"9 and weigh 148 pounds. These two pics were taken seconds apart but in different lighting.
Thanks
ibb.co/r3L2QHL
ibb.co/0mQQzQw[/QUOTE]
Around 15-16%
[QUOTE=orkmd;1590706851]Hi guys, any ideas?[/QUOTE]
Around 11-12%
6'3 or 6'4~ 190~ lbs 22 years old.
Don't know if I should cut more, or bulk. Biggest issue I have are my love handles.
Pic is flexed.
Ibb.co/M9HVSXV
ibb.co/Db2Fq6T
Can somebody please estimate my body fat? Been on and off cutting for 2 years now but not sure where I sit on the scale.
Height 5.10
Weight 190 lbs
Pictures in bio /progress pics)
[QUOTE=jackgibbo24;1590736521]Can somebody please estimate my body fat? Been on and off cutting for 2 years now but not sure where I sit on the scale.
Height 5.10
Weight 190 lbs
Pictures in bio /progress pics)[/QUOTE]
Around 22-23%
[QUOTE=imirish34;1590731581]6'3 or 6'4~ 190~ lbs 22 years old.
Don't know if I should cut more, or bulk. Biggest issue I have are my love handles.
Pic is flexed.
Ibb.co/M9HVSXV
ibb.co/Db2Fq6T[/QUOTE]
Around 14-15%. You could get away with another 10lbs but certainly no lower. You will need to bulk soon though. Choice is yours you are in that area where either way is fine.
I'm 6 feet
205 pounds give or take
93kg
Pictures in body space
I look extremely soft when not flexed though but if you could help me out . I carry fat around my lower abdomen and chest . My back has visible definition. Any idea how long and to what body weight / fat percent should i cut?
Hi can I would like to have an estimation and please tell me if its fat or loose skin?
I'M 190cm
I weight 74 kilos
Pics in bodyspace
[QUOTE=DDDW;1590756181]Hi can I would like to have an estimation and please tell me if its fat or loose skin?
I'M 190cm
I weight 74 kilos
Pics in bodyspace[/QUOTE]
Odd looking women (your profile says female). Anyway around 13%. Looks like fat to me but more due to your core not being very big then excess fatty tissue. Cutting would not achieve much better look you need to build more muscle.
[QUOTE=potatosavior;1590751531]I'm 6 feet
205 pounds give or take
93kg
Pictures in body space
I look extremely soft when not flexed though but if you could help me out . I carry fat around my lower abdomen and chest . My back has visible definition. Any idea how long and to what body weight / fat percent should i cut?[/QUOTE]
Around 22-23%. I would cut down to 80-85kg then start a bulk. Are you weight training if so what program are you running?
Read this advice for nutrition requirements:-
[url]https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=173439001[/url]
age 20
Weight 72 kg
height 180 cm
pics in my bodyspace progress
i dont know how to post link here sorry
1 more month, 3 kg less. Looking for another estimate and if I should start bulking/recomping?
Stats:
Height: 173cm
Weight: 70.5 kg
Getting back into last year's shape and planning to improve on it, what do you guys reckon my bf% are at in those 2 pictures?
I'm 5'7" and if I remember correctly I was around 167lbs in the first picture(last year) and am at 172lbs in the second. I guess I lost some muscle mass also since I don't think 5lbs of fat will get me into the first point, but I'll see in a couple weeks+ when I match the weight. Goal is 12-15% then bulk.
[img]https://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9168431&d=1572597303[/img]
[QUOTE=sipura51;1590787121]age 20
Weight 72 kg
height 180 cm
pics in my bodyspace progress
i dont know how to post link here sorry[/QUOTE]
17-18%
[QUOTE=Kxer0;1590787551]1 more month, 3 kg less. Looking for another estimate and if I should start bulking/recomping?
Stats:
Height: 173cm
Weight: 70.5 kg[/QUOTE]
Around 19%
[QUOTE=W.I.N.;1590787871]Getting back into last year's shape and planning to improve on it, what do you guys reckon my bf% are at in those 2 pictures?
I'm 5'7" and if I remember correctly I was around 167lbs in the first picture(last year) and am at 172lbs in the second. I guess I lost some muscle mass also since I don't think 5lbs of fat will get me into the first point, but I'll see in a couple weeks+ when I match the weight. Goal is 12-15% then bulk.
[img]https://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9168431&d=1572597303[/img][/QUOTE]
Left one:- Around 21%
Right one:- Around 24%
Although a side and back pic would help estimate.