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[QUOTE=johnnnnnyboi;782693013]thanks man & congratz, your doin bloody well, i work in an office with just men... lame but im real excited to give all this stuff a shot on the weekend, COME AT ME BRO will update story on this thread on monday[/QUOTE]
I'll be waiting for your update. Biggest accomplishment would be seeing that everyone here succeeds at being more comfrotable around women. Basically a community of success stories.
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[QUOTE=Stankus;782643203]Girls are always a numbers game. Guys that don't cold approach will even tell you this. The only other way you are going to meet girls is through your social circle, in your classes/job, or through luck. This is how most people do it, and most people are beta. They end up waiting around for years in between girlfriends.
Let's say you don't read anything about how to talk to girls, and you don't cold approach. You WILL get a girl, eventually. But why would you want to wait when you can build up the skills to be able to go up to any woman you see and start a conversation with her? My philosophy is that you should use anything that can help you. Even if you are already pulling girls why not do something that can help you pull even more girls? Do you want to improve your skills or not? Even outside of relationships you should always be improving yourself. In your job, in your health, in your general knowledge of things.
My friend once told me back when I was afraid of girls, "All you have to do is talk to them." And he was absolutely correct. Yes, there are things you should and shouldn't do, but essentially it all comes down to this.
That egyptian girl I mentioned in post 72 is all over my nutz right now. I called her this morning and then texted her afterwards. She is texting me twice after I text her...essentially saying, "Please respond" if I don't respond right away. And how did I get her interested? I used an opener but then after that I simply talked to her about different subjects for half an hour.
If you have the balls to approach, and you have the ability to carry a conversation then girls will like you for it.[/QUOTE]
I didn't mean that I hated approaching women, I just think there's a better way of doing things. The book I linked was meant to aware you of the non-verbal "come ons" a woman sends if she's interested in you. They exist, you need to know what to look for. If you can become aware, it transforms a "cold" approach into a "warm" one. It saves you frustration like flaky numbers, weird looks if you see them next time etc. Everyone here should check the book out, I want people to people to succeed not suck.
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In on this. 19 y/o virgin here. Gonna go ahead and tell my "story". I used to be a miserable fat kid with no self confidence (214), but I joined the army reserve and came back at 170 lbs. While I was gone I developed some level of confidence in carrying myself and got some sense of style (or learned to just bring a female along to help buy clothes :P). I came back and everyone was impressed with the way I had changed. Went to a few parties and what not over the two month span that I was at home. I made a bit of progress with women such as getting phone numbers and what not, but I was still ultimately stumbling over myself. I did notice that when my BAL increased, so did my "successes" with women.
However, I soon became engrossed in a deep, dark pit that I was in previously known as video games. I returned to an online game I played for hours on end at a time. I moved away to go to college where a few of my buddies were going and I continued this path. I would play this game for 8-9 hours at a time becoming fully engrossed in it. My grades were ****, I didn't go out and meet new people, and I was slowly returning to being fat (gained 15 lbs of fat from beer and taco bell; not one weight was lifted). Sure I drank, but I didn't go out and meet new people. I just was circularly engrossed in the video game. A whole semester went by and I returned home for the summer where the same **** continued. A whole summer went by.
Then come August all my friends had gone back to school and weren't at home anymore. I was back to the foreveralone life with two good buddies in town. Both of which are just as foreveralone as me. Anyways a girl comes into my work one day and is talking to one of the cashiers, she obviously knows him and what not. I over heard them talking and realized it's my buddy's(J) ex-gf who he hates, but still lives with him. Anyways we get to chit chatting and what not for a few minutes until the manager runs her off and I come home to ******** request with her # in my inbox. I accept it and text her and we get to talking some more. The next night she wants me to go run with her, so I said alright and she brought along some guy friend, probably to make sure she didn't get raped or what not. Cool whatever. He leaves after we run, and me and her ended up sitting there and talking for two hours. I probably totally could have kiss closed that night, but I didn't want to without first speaking to my buddy J first since he had dated her only two months prior and she still lived with him. Next day goes by and I haven't talked to J yet, but I'm eating dinner with my other buddy Q (who doesn't get along with J) and she texts me and wants to go running again. I told her I could, but I'm chilling with my buddy, so he'd have to come along. I tell him that I'm trying to get with her and what not and that I got dibs, if nothing comes of it he can go for it and I'd help. He says alright and agrees. Well we get there and he is spitting game out his ass, whatever. We talk and what not and all depart our separate ways. The next night I get off work and call up my buddy Q and see what he's up to. He tells me he's at BWW with her and then gets her on the phone telling me to come and what not. I'm like what the **** man, but alright and show up. She's now throwing signs at him and not me. Whatever, don't give a ****. Anyways, I confront him on all this **** later on and he tells me it's just as friends and nothing is going on and I can still go for it. I'm like whatever, you've been one of my best friends for 4 years I trust you.
Anyways the same **** goes on for a few days, with him becoming really sketchy about answering my texts (usually answers within 30 secs), ignoring phone calls and lying to me. Then one night my buddy J called me and was like why the **** is Q trying to get with said girl. I was like what, how do you know etc etc. Long story short I go and pick him and we talk about all the bull**** and conclude they are banging (with a confirmation driveby on his house with her car over), which he isn't happy about and I'm obviously enraged about. I confront Q on this and he is all apologetic bull**** that he ****ed up. I told him that if I can't trust him, then I can't be friends with him and what not. He kept apologizing saying dude you can have her whatever man. Brother, that wasn't the point! On her end I told her I'm not mad at her, she can bang whoever she wants blah blah blah. But the weird thing is me and her have kept hanging out almost every day, while I'm not longer friends with Q whatsoever. I purposely friend zoned myself with her, because that little love triangle bull**** was not something I wanted in on. So, I've basically been hanging out with this girl who I'm not banging almost every day for the past 3 months thereby closing myself off to other females except for my right hand and some tp. It's weird, but it has made me come to realize that the video game was not what I wanted to succeed in.
In. I'm moving to the outskirts of Indianapolis in a few weeks for the army where I'll know no one except for a few people in my unit. I'm gonna go out and meet new people. Gonna meet bishes via them cold approaches. Cold approaches at the mall or what not. **** there has to be a billion girls in Indy, and what the hell do I have to lose. I'm totally in on this. I've started by cleaning up my ******** page of all the bull****.
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[QUOTE=MyHero;782656643]Encounter with bish I see everyday in Science. I've tried talking to her a few times and failed. She wont even acknowledge me outside of class and doesn't even say 'bye' after class ends. Could be because of how skinny I am and how I JUST started lifting and bulking. Anyway:
- She( about a 6.5 ) walks in to class
- 10 minutes later:
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Me: This class blows.. *convo starter*
Her: Yeah, I ****ing hate it. Shouldn't be here..
Me: Why?
Her: Well teacher failed me blah blah blah have to take it again.
Me: Damn, that sucks..
Her: Yeah.
*we stop talking and do classwork. after, I try again*
Me: You had Ms.Blah Blah before?
Her: Yeah. OMG, she could not teach.
Me: Lol, she just sits on her laptop all day.
Her: Yeaaah! So stupid - she's a bitch.
Me: Exactly, everyone says that.
Her: Yeah.
Me: *silence*
Her: Do you live around here?
Me: Nah, I live at blah blah.
Her: Wow, that's far.
Me: Lol, not rly.
Her: YES it is, lol
Me: You live close?
Her: Yeah.
Me: Oh. Wish I did too. Wouldn't be late.
Her: Lol, yeah.
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aside from asking about classwork later, that was it. I thought I made progress when she asked where I lived, so I was a little proud. but, she ended up jetting out of the class when it ended like everyone else, not saying goodbye or anything. Worse, she saw me this morning and hardly acknowledged me - showing that I had not made a lasting impression at all. I honestly think it's because I'm short and pretty skinny, though I'm somewhat average height in my school.
Being skinny doesn't mix with girls and I feel that greatly limits me.
Sorry for the novel, but I want to know if I did anything wrong.[/QUOTE]
what you did wrong was talk about school..you need to start saying stuff about her, like things about what she's wearing, her demeanor, something she's doing..because when you cold approach a girl you'll only have those things to talk about. Btw most guys try and talk to girls about school , they get tired of that sh*t
[QUOTE=johnnnnnyboi;782669163]i need advice brahs, not on cold approaching, im starting to get that down pact, but on the weekend and a past few IVE been the one getting approached, 3 girls last weekend and other times, i find it harder to talk to them cause then i dont know if their keen or not, (i mean initiating conversation you wud think they are, or do they just wanna chat cause their bored? either way WTF) i was lost for words when they were approaching me LOL, epic fail...
Another thing, girls approach me a lot of the dancefloors, one girl in particular asked me to dance with her, i did... but i need HELP brahs what do you, she grabbed my hands and put it on her hips nd **** and she was like rubbing my cawk with her knee, by the end of it i had a raging hard on, then my mates wanted to go so i got her number and said id txt her later on so she got my number (called it at the time but it fuarked up) by the expression she gave me it looked like she thought i was flaking already, everytime we were dancing she was like 'you dont have to dance with me if you dont want to' and all her beta white knight mates were jealous so they were jumpin round us saying JUST HOOK UP BRAH JUST HOOK UP HOOK UP HOOK UP, i was about to knock all their lights out but eh
what to do?[/QUOTE]
You could still try and hook up with her if your texting game is good...you should've done it that night though, she was giving strong signals that she wanted it and it might've been a kind of in the moment thing that she wanted to f*ck you, but still go for it!
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[QUOTE=iamdetermined;782977643]what you did wrong was talk about school..you need to start saying stuff about her, like things about what she's wearing, her demeanor, something she's doing..because when you cold approach a girl you'll only have those things to talk about. Btw most guys try and talk to girls about school , they get tired of that sh*t[/QUOTE]
Could you give me an example or two? It seems weird to just randomly say "You got some nice a$$ pants on" or something about what she's doing, which would be writing in class.
Also, should I cut my losses with her? She sits right next to me in class, but hardly talks to me there and does not acknowledge me outside of it.
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[QUOTE=MyHero;782988773]Could you give me an example or two? It seems weird to just randomly say "You got some nice a$$ pants on" or something about what she's doing, which would be writing in class.
Also, should I cut my losses with her? She sits right next to me in class, but hardly talks to me there and does not acknowledge me outside of it.[/QUOTE]
Okay..well i dont know since i don't see her but i'll give you some examples, let's say she brings a different purse everyday so say something like do you really need a different purse everyday? in a kind of playful tone..or be like you don't look too happy to be here, you look different with ___, things like that, im not to good at talking to girls myself though so don't just go out and do what i say lol
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[QUOTE=Stankus;781440103]Ok, let me say something here. I used to be a "foreveraloner" and I thought I could cure it by reading as much stuff on pick up artists, how to pick up girls, etc. I thought that if I knew all this stuff then someday the perfect situation would present itself to me where I could meet a really cool girl and get in a relationship. I read so much stuff that I probably know more about girls than a guy would ever learn in 5 lifetimes.
But it didn't do much. Yes, there were situations and I number closed girls at parties, classes, etc, but I wasn't off the hook with my game.
Once I started cold approaching I BECAME A CHANGED MAN. I have no fear of women now and my confidence is off the hook. START COLD APPROACHING!!! The first one I did I was nervous as fuark, but then i said eff it and walked straight up to her. The conversation went south after a couple minutes so I left. But it didn't matter...after that I was hooked. It is sooo easy to approach girls. They love it when you have the confidence to approach them.
Walk confidently, keep your back straight, smile, be a man, and you will realize how truly beta girls are. Honestly, I am never intimidated by a girl anymore. When you have confidence they really do see you as "alpha" and THEY get nervous, stroke their hair, laugh and submit to you (by giving you their number).
Get off POF and get off OKC. It's a waste of your damn time. PM me if you have any questions.
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Great post man. I've been wondering about this. For too long I've been just procrastinating and waiting for situations to talk to girls in class, etc. This isn't helping my anxiety at all. Maybe I just need to get out there and do some approaches.
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Tips:
Don't go for girls in groups, thats asking to be shot down relentlessly
Smile and be positive, no one wants to talk to an angry bitch
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Approached 3 girls today. I'll cliff important stuff.
Girl#1
-Sat across from table from her watching a music performance in the lounge
-Started up convo
-Talked about school, and etc
-Asked for her number to hang out but she said she had a boyfriend
-Said "You look like a girl that can use two"
-She laughed hard
-Just left it at that and continued to watch performance
Girl#2 and #3
-Asked them if they noticed the moving pole outside
-They look at it laughing and say yeah they didnt see that before
-Few words exchanged
-Silence because performance was going on for 30 minutes
-Talked some more after and told them I hope to see them around sometime
-Both smiled and said the same
-No number
Better day next time.
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[QUOTE=idontthinkso;781972183]LOL at people who are encouraging this ****. Cold approaching is bull****. You folks just say "blah blah blah keep approaching until it works blah blah blah". Look what happened to Longlurker. [b]Apparently he approached over 100 girls.[/b][/QUOTE]You say that as if 100 girls is a large number?
When I first started I was doing over 150 approaches [b]PER WEEK[/b], a minimum of 20 a day. Forcing yourself to cold approach isn't about success, it's about overcoming anxiety and rejection by pure brute force, if you have the right mindset and do it enough times you can become completely immune.
The biggest flaw I've seen in this thread so far is that people are not pushing it to the point of rejection, every encounter should end in either success (number and/or kiss) or failure (rejection from asking for the number/rejection from going in for the kiss). You should never give yourself an easy out such as "nice to meet you" or "I'll see you around", this is just a defense mechanism to avoid rejection, at some point you need to suck it up and start getting rejected in large numbers.
Just like approaching large amounts of women makes you comfortable approaching, getting rejected by large amounts of women makes you comfortable getting rejected.
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Good thread OP, got you on recharge.
I'm working on getting out of this alpha/beta mentality. I can't say this without saying obnoxious, but I'm pretty good with girls. I've got a good sense of humour and am good looking. Just have to open my mind a bit more and accept that not ALL girls are mere sex objects.
A lot of posts in the misc have led me to be misogynistic though, so it's something I'll have to work on.
Anyway, cliffs on approaches:
GIRL 1:
- Met bangin blonde chick at the pokies (first time I gambled lol)
- Talked about her night and about the Army
- Kept it short and sweet, made her laugh a lot
- Said "I'll see you around" and left, trying not to stagger too much (I was drunk)
GIRL 2:
- Met at a party, she was there with her BF
- Caught my attention immediately; she was wearing those little reading glasses that I love lol
- Admittedly, I was a douchebag. Cut her BF out of the convo, flirted with her all night, danced with her and grabbed her ass, etc.
- She told all of my friends there that I'm 'a total babe' (no e-brag once again, sigh)
- Got her number and email, her BF grabbed her hand and left the party soon after haha
I was in a moral dilemma between banging this chick or leaving it because she has a BF. The perpetual conflict of being a douchebag, (a product of misogynistic posts on the Misc, GF horror stories and general distrust of girls) and being a man, i.e. improving myself in every facet as a person and being strong enough to say no in such situations.
Thoughts?
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Went out last night to a bar/dance with my boys. Might of been the liquid courage but I approached 3 girls that night and used things I read from a few threads.
1st Girl: 6/10, looked like a milf but I noticed her across the room, met eye contact and went straight up to her.
All I said was "Hey" she smiled back and say "hey". I told her I think you're cute, you should dance with me. Led her to the floor and danced, split when song ended.
2nd Girl: Tall 8/10, said "Hey" looks at me and says "hey" then walks away. Didn't care. Moved on.
3rd Girl: 7/10 short girl talking to some ugly chick. I go up to her with my boy and say "Wow you're really short!" She lol's and starts talking to us. My friend leads to convo and starts asking about where she lives, etc. Her 8/10 sister comes by and introduces her to me. I tell her to dance with me then lead her to the floor.
Today I had to go get change at the bank.
Saw a fat girl and a 5/10 girl behind the counter. I go up to the fat one cause she was the only one open. I notice a small sign that said "If we gave you lvl 5 service ring the bell!" and there's a bell next to it.
I immediately ask her "Hey whats this mean?" she tells me its about how good the service and I say "So if I ring the bell do yall have to dance for me?!" They start loling and I ring the bell. They loved it and I get my change and said have a good day.
Not such big things but it's a start. Im usually just focused on getting the task done, don't really want to bother to talk to people but Im trying to force myself to open up.
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[QUOTE=Marzzz;782032083]
Yeah baby! I'm going to pretend to be doing surveys and crap.[/QUOTE]I KNOW you saw that on Keys to the VIP, Canadabrah.
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[QUOTE=JohnnyJenkins;783930683]I KNOW you saw that on Keys to the VIP, Canadabrah.[/QUOTE]
Love the show but no, actually just came up with it myself. They actually did that on the show? Haha
Anyways, got yucky with the boys last night. Approached basically 85% of all the women in the club. Long short with a lot of rejection but some success.
Cliffs:
-Met up for friends birthday
-Got super yucky
-Me and my homie go "hunting" and approach some chicks
-I wing man him nice
-He introduces me to some of his female friends
-I get two of his female friend's numbers throughout the night (strong 8s)
-Felt up, kissed, and flirted with the tall amazon 8. (sexy as fuark)
-Tried for a third number from the friend with a bit of chub (strong 7) but one of the 8s was watching me so I just played it friendly.
-Approached a lot of chicks after that and had a bit of fun
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[QUOTE=Acesopro;783921013]Went out last night to a bar/dance with my boys. Might of been the liquid courage but I approached 3 girls that night and used things I read from a few threads.
1st Girl: 6/10, looked like a milf but I noticed her across the room, met eye contact and went straight up to her.
All I said was "Hey" she smiled back and say "hey". I told her I think you're cute, you should dance with me. Led her to the floor and danced, split when song ended.
2nd Girl: Tall 8/10, said "Hey" looks at me and says "hey" then walks away. Didn't care. Moved on.
3rd Girl: 7/10 short girl talking to some ugly chick. I go up to her with my boy and say "Wow you're really short!" She lol's and starts talking to us. My friend leads to convo and starts asking about where she lives, etc. Her 8/10 sister comes by and introduces her to me. I tell her to dance with me then lead her to the floor.
Today I had to go get change at the bank.
Saw a fat girl and a 5/10 girl behind the counter. I go up to the fat one cause she was the only one open. I notice a small sign that said "If we gave you lvl 5 service ring the bell!" and there's a bell next to it.
I immediately ask her "Hey whats this mean?" she tells me its about how good the service and I say "So if I ring the bell do yall have to dance for me?!" They start loling and I ring the bell. They loved it and I get my change and said have a good day.
Not such big things but it's a start. Im usually just focused on getting the task done, don't really want to bother to talk to people but Im trying to force myself to open up.[/QUOTE]
I'm a bit drunk right now so please excuse my spelling mistakes bro. (srs)
I find that you should only talk to the girls that make you nervous. I found this to be where I started progressing big time. Talking to ugly girls and dudes is nothing, it's the ones that make you feel uncomfortable is where to start to be comfortable after doing it for so long. once again sorry for the spelling and grammar mistakes bro. (srs)
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Damn, what happened to the motivation boys? I swear had so much potential and all of a sudden, I don't heard no updates or check ins. Dis is dissapoint.
I got a date with the 23 year old from work on Sunday. Plannning just to hang out with her and see what she's about.
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Went out on Saturday night to a 21st, didn't know anybody apart from the guy whose party it was.
Had a few drinks, loosened me up and made heaps of new friends. It was one of those times where you're just in the zone, feelsgoodman. Got a bunch of numbers from chicks, including two twin sisters who I was feeling up and dancing with all night.
They live around the corner from me too, so I'll see if I can love them tenderly without the other finding out. Wish me luck brahs
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[QUOTE=Marzzz;784486463]Damn, what happened to the motivation boys? I swear had so much potential and all of a sudden, I don't heard no updates or check ins. Dis is dissapoint.
I got a date with the 23 year old from work on Sunday. Plannning just to hang out with her and see what she's about.[/QUOTE]
said i would update after the weekend but i ended up getting sick on saturday and it took out my whole weekend, VERY dissapoint cause i was so keen to head out and give this stuff a crack, me nd my mate currently are ditching everyone we know, we know a lot of girls nd guys but we are sick to death of catching up and sitting in a chair and making 50 yr old talk, so me nd him are on the prowl to meet new chiks, he was dissapoint also cause i fell sick but again, looking forward to the weekend hopefully this time im good and were gonna hit up multiple joints, like i say always, will keep u posted ;)
stay safe.
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im in, how do i avoid the friend zone and how do i get out of the friend zone with a girl.
another is the girl i like has a boyfriend. she used to like me and now she is dating a scum. advice on what to do about this situation.
oh and i used to be fat but lost alot of fat and bulked up. now i have muscle and am attractive. help a miscer out
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[QUOTE=joey124;784521433]im in, how do i avoid the friend zone and how do i get out of the friend zone with a girl.
another is the girl i like has a boyfriend. she used to like me and now she is dating a scum. advice on what to do about this situation.
oh and i used to be fat but lost alot of fat and bulked up. now i have muscle and am attractive. help a miscer out[/QUOTE]
There are hotter and more interesting girls out there. Always remember girls can be replaced. (not trying to be a douchebag but it's true) If you like to stay out of a friendzone, trigger a girl's emotion and do things she doesn't expect. Be confident in yourself and don't take her s[I]h[/I]it if she's dishing. Don't do things solely for her enjoyment but for yours as well.
By the way, I hate listing out things like these because it's so tacky.
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Little to no confidence in me. Can barely speak up or look at people I do not know... but I always make direct eye contact and smile if I am spoken too or noticed.... do girls not like that? I dunno. I usually have nothing to say.. there were some really gorgeous girl (10/10 face..) at this one bar I was at the other night, she looked at me and I looked back and we both smiled. That was about it... did not peruse. We didn't stay much longer so I had no chance to hunt her down on the d floor if I wanted to anyway...
If my buddies have girl friends they are easy as **** to talk to... Last night I met up with a buddy with his girl and she had a friend (who didn't know I was coming) and she was literally blushing complete red to the point I thought she was just wearing a lot of makeup... lmao. Small talk occurred etc, some awkward meeting of eyes .... am I thinking too much of it? Maybe it wasn't awkward?...
Meeting up again but I dunno. She had to leave for a party (apparently she said she would have stayed if I knew I was coming)...
Will see how it goes on Wednesday.
I am usually nonchallont around girls I am familiar with... but when I see a cute girl I get flustered/anxiety out the ass. SRS saw this pretty cute but bigger waitress at a restaurant on Friday, sexy as phark never thought I'd be into that. I ****ing stuttered "thanks" for letting me walk by (She moved out of the way as I passed saying "anytime") and walked off crying inside. Her voice was incredible ;_;
A friend of mine said I was "too alpha girls don't like that" when I was a the bar where 10/10 was... I don't think that is true... down right retarded to me lol. I am alpha over guys, I srs don't move out of the way and stand pretty dense... ... but I back down like a bitch when it comes to the females. wtffffbrahs.
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[QUOTE=AirForceV;784592493]Little to no confidence in me. Can barely speak up or look at people I do not know... but I always make direct eye contact and smile if I am spoken too or noticed.... do girls not like that? I dunno. I usually have nothing to say.. there were some really gorgeous girl (10/10 face..) at this one bar I was at the other night, she looked at me and I looked back and we both smiled. That was about it... did not peruse. We didn't stay much longer so I had no chance to hunt her down on the d floor if I wanted to anyway...
If my buddies have girl friends they are easy as **** to talk to... Last night I met up with a buddy with his girl and she had a friend (who didn't know I was coming) and she was literally blushing complete red to the point I thought she was just wearing a lot of makeup... lmao. Small talk occurred etc, some awkward meeting of eyes .... am I thinking too much of it? Maybe it wasn't awkward?...
Meeting up again but I dunno. She had to leave for a party (apparently she said she would have stayed if I knew I was coming)...
Will see how it goes on Wednesday.
I am usually nonchallont around girls I am familiar with... but when I see a cute girl I get flustered/anxiety out the ass. SRS saw this pretty cute but bigger waitress at a restaurant on Friday, sexy as phark never thought I'd be into that. I ****ing stuttered "thanks" for letting me walk by (She moved out of the way as I passed saying "anytime") and walked off crying inside. Her voice was incredible ;_;
A friend of mine said I was "too alpha girls don't like that" when I was a the bar where 10/10 was... I don't think that is true... down right retarded to me lol. I am alpha over guys, I srs don't move out of the way and stand pretty dense... ... but I back down like a bitch when it comes to the females. wtffffbrahs.[/QUOTE]
judging by avi, (no homo and semi srs) im sure you wud be a gd lookin guy although i cant see ure face, you gotta remember that 10/10's are still just as nervous as you are, its just that they get approached a lot by guys so they dont have to bother, she may have liked you, but again she mighta been nervous, u gotta man the hell up bro and just hit it, trust me ive deserted all girlfriends i have, its placed me now in a situation where i have to meet other chiks otherwise i wont know the opposite gender, 20 is a good age to start realising, i have, and im thanking god i have aswell, otherwise id be 30 at the moment, still with Vcard and having no new friends
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[QUOTE=johnnnnnyboi;784614603]judging by avi, (no homo and semi srs) im sure you wud be a gd lookin guy although i cant see ure face, you gotta remember that 10/10's are still just as nervous as you are, its just that they get approached a lot by guys so they dont have to bother, she may have liked you, but again she mighta been nervous, u gotta man the hell up bro and just hit it, trust me ive deserted all girlfriends i have, its placed me now in a situation where i have to meet other chiks otherwise i wont know the opposite gender, 20 is a good age to start realising, i have, and im thanking god i have aswell, otherwise id be 30 at the moment, still with Vcard and having no new friends[/QUOTE]
I get compliments some times and was pretty popular with the girls when I went out as a teenager (friend zoned sooo many times though... wtf) etc, but I do get dat dere acne (Specially since I am bulking and eating **** from time to time) and it destroys any sort of confidence in my looks plus I dress like a 50 year old lumberjack most of the time lmao. (huge puffy plaid work jackets to bars. OH YEAH, it's cold out)
Yeah I understand that too man, they are people just like you and I lol. Just need to push past the BS lingering shadow of doubt and just go with it... I have approached some other 10/10s they seemed to dig me (I usually spot the bar stars..) I just have no substance to keep the chat going and just flake off eventually. There is one sort of "work" cute girl at my job, we have exchanged words at lunch, pretty playful innuendo but seemed to be really nervous when speaking to me, may tell her to join our "group" for lunch again.
I'm actually looking forward to Wednesdays "Date". Girl was pretty cute, 'dat ass.
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[QUOTE=AirForceV;784621353]I get compliments some times and was pretty popular with the girls when I went out as a teenager (friend zoned sooo many times though... wtf) etc, but I do get dat dere acne (Specially since I am bulking and eating **** from time to time) and it destroys any sort of confidence in my looks plus I dress like a 50 year old lumberjack most of the time lmao.
Yeah I understand that too man, they are people just like you and I lol. Just need to push past the BS lingering shadow of doubt and just go with it...[/QUOTE]
its good your acknowledging it at least, but yes the way in which u take care of yourself (hair styling, clothes etc) does help, dont worry man ive got a rug everywhere on my bod im italian, i get waxed on the chest probs once every 2 months or so i shud do it more often, my legs are so hairy u cant even see my skin, along with arms and anywhere else you can think hair grows (and places u wont think... lol) so i clean shave with a razor and my beard will have stubble in about 5-6 hours, its horrible... anyway...dressing like a lumberjack isnt a bad thing if your muscley gives off the farmer look, in most chiks eyes thats hawt, fact is bro as long as your presentable you dont even have to be hot, you can pull almost any chik (if your like a 4+/10) its all in the confidence and how you act,
If your something new to the girl she will be interested in you, so if you approach that 10/10 do NOT talk about her looks talk about anything else and u will have her in the sack (she gets that crap all the time) make fun of her height, say you like the dress she's wearing... say why she's being so quiet, just dont say anything with looks, just be out of the ordinary but not a d!ck,
If u have trouble approaching girls start off small, when ure waiting in the line turn around say hello to the girl behind you, this works almost all the time, she will not flip you off because face it she is in the line with you and she is going to have to wait, she knows if she does everyone will see also you will be right infront of her the rest of the way, but most of all, she will be bored standing in the line and not doing anything so if anything... THE LINE IS THE BEST PLACE TO PICK UP, you can actually talk and not have to scream like when ure in the clubz, id say next time you go out do it.
When you get inside same sorta thing, on the dancefloor u are not going to pick a girl up, very rarely does it happen, they will hook up with you then go to the toilet and u will never see them again, plus its the same crap over nd over so they aint interested, look towards the back or in the quietzones if there is girls standing around, approach them, talk for a while and if you dont have a lot to say then the quick backout method is to ask her to dance with you, if she sez no just say no worries and say have a good night and move on, (happened to me before i said have a good one then durin the course of the night she regretted it and kept bumping into me on purpose then later i got her number) plant seeds everywhere, eventually one will grow.
I hope this sorta gives u some help on approaching chiks, just remember to talk to all women or even guys, it gets you fluently socially active, you talk so much that eventually it comes naturally, if you have a sister talk to her friends when they come over, the lady that serves u at walmart or watever its called in america, best thing is to approach girls out of clubs, they wont expect it, will be flattered etc, just do it, if you meet a girl in a shop and she rejects you who cares, you probably wouldnt have done it anyway if it werent for me saying it so rathert than thinking aww man she rejected me, be thankful for when one doesnt and u wudn have let her walk by like another lost soul in the world, being nervous is a part of life, even high class performers and celebs, they get nervous before all their shows, its human nature, but they overcome it and you can too, just start off slow and work your way up, wow i just realised what a wall of txt... meh
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Read all of it though brah. Some solid advice. I like the talk in the line part. I have done that before and it did work. Ended up chilling the entire time at the bar. Should start using that much more often...
Haha, I styled my hair for 1-2 years. medium short, enough to spike/straighten it. Compliments were had etc, but I got rid of it and now it's all short. Always clean shaven unless I just don't give a ****/depressed. I can't get facial hair anyway. No movember for me :p
Dis boost of confidance.
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[QUOTE=Marzzz;784486463]Damn, what happened to the motivation boys? I swear had so much potential and all of a sudden, I don't heard no updates or check ins. Dis is dissapoint.
I got a date with the 23 year old from work on Sunday. Plannning just to hang out with her and see what she's about.[/QUOTE]
I've been talking to new ladies, just haven't been logging em, too much effort...
I've had a flake though but whatever... mostly just approaching to build upon my social/flirting skills.
But if other things, lead to other things, then that's just bonus points.
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[QUOTE=Marzzz;784486463]Damn, what happened to the motivation boys? I swear had so much potential and all of a sudden, I don't heard no updates or check ins. Dis is dissapoint.
I got a date with the 23 year old from work on Sunday. Plannning just to hang out with her and see what she's about.[/QUOTE]
Still check in here and read once in a while. Still doing my thing during the night and day but blogging just seems like a chore to me and takes the fun out so I don't do it. Still following your journey homie and wish you the best! :D
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I went to a small get together last night with some old friends. I just acted like a boss, and everyone treated me like a boss... it was pretty amazing the turn around in attitude... very recognizable. I already had all the girl's numbers, but I'm pretty much friend zoned with them all. The one that I am friend zoned with and planned on capitalizing on anyways and thought I was doing well with had her boyfriend there. I was doing pretty good at out alphaing him I feel like, but in the end she went home to him ofc.
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Approached a girl in my lifting class. Made her laugh and smile a lot but she was like 5/10 and I'm not attracted to her. No intentions on trying to smash.
Gonna get at some attractive girls tomorrow.
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damn ive been slacking...been trying to talk to this girl for a week but haven't go the chance, either she misses class or i miss class..saw her today but only for a couple of seconds, ive been so preoccuipied with her tht i forgot anything goes...will have to wait till monday since school is closed, i'll be back though, i havent given up yet