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No.
yes
necessary for what?
[QUOTE=Compoundlift83;21747851]???????????[/QUOTE]
Not if you do power cleans, deads, etc.
Are your traps developed to the point that you want? Then no, not really.
Do you want bigger traps? Then yes.
Are they lagging behind? Then yes.
No exercise is ever necessary.
If your question is should you include direct trap work (shrugs, hang cleans, etc etc), for most people with square shoulders you should do them and do them more than once a week. For people with round shoulders the delt and back work will probably be enough.
Well not necessary. Johnny Jackson says he doesnt do them. I do them. Im not even sure if they even help my traps grow but i love the feeling of them. They take all the tenstion out of my neck. Great exercise
[QUOTE=Uriel_da_man;21751221]No exercise is ever necessary.
If your question is should you include direct trap work (shrugs, hang cleans, etc etc), for most people with square shoulders you should do them and do them more than once a week. For people with round shoulders the delt and back work will probably be enough.[/QUOTE]
Exactly.
[QUOTE=Gainwithfailure;21768471]Well not necessary. Johnny Jackson says he doesnt do them. I do them. Im not even sure if they even help my traps grow but i love the feeling of them. They take all the tenstion out of my neck. Great exercise[/QUOTE]
JOJ doesent do them *anymore*. He still does indirect work such as deads(he is a powerlifter after all). His traps already dominate his shoulders IMO anyways so they dont realy need any more size.
You can substitute it with other exercises, but I feel that they are important.
in my professional opinion shrugs are necessary for people that want to do shrugs.
[QUOTE=Ballys Trainer;21779701]in my professional opinion shrugs are necessary for people that want to do shrugs.[/QUOTE]
Wow. You're a geniusO_O
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I do Deads ,power cleans and sometimes upright rows, so I wonder if shrugs are really necessary for me
[QUOTE=Ballys Trainer;21779701]in my professional opinion shrugs are necessary for people that want to do shrugs.[/QUOTE]
Im still diggin' the av bro :D (no homo, but funny as hell)
[QUOTE=Andrew69;21788491]Im still diggin' the av bro :D (no homo, but funny as hell)[/QUOTE]
yeah im just trying to get a date bro! (no homo)
I don't know why you wouldn't do them. They're probably the easiest exercise
[quote]Im still diggin' the av bro (no homo, but funny as hell)[/quote]
x2 makes me laugh everytime i see it haha
Shrugs are a waste of time, do heavy upright rows.
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If you are looking for the "finished" bodybuilding physique then, yes! They are as necessary.
if u want trap height yeah.
[QUOTE=Veteq;21843541]Shrugs are a waste of time, do heavy upright rows.[/QUOTE]
Good advice if you wanna get hurt.
[QUOTE=Compoundlift83;21784511]Are shrugs necessary?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DoubleWide;21749191]No.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mtguy8787;21750751]Are your traps developed to the point that you want? Then no, not really.
Do you want bigger traps? Then yes.
Are they lagging behind? Then yes.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Compoundlift83;21784511]I do Deads ,power cleans and sometimes upright rows, so I wonder if shrugs are really necessary for me[/QUOTE]
Simple, stop doing them and find out.
They are necessary for me. My traps have always been a weak part of my physique. And I want balance before I want mass.
BTW, I've tried doing Hang Cleans, but they seem to be kinda hard on my joints. Any good alternatives?
Yes , but mix them up with upright rows to keep the muscles guessing. I prefer shrugs myself but each to their own.
Not necessary. No exercise is mandatory. It really depends on your goals. If you are looking for further hypertrophy of the upper traps, then it is a nice addition to your program.
Necessary for what, and for whom?
I do them but don't put a whole lot of emphasis on them. I throw them in on top of my trap bar deads.
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I feel it is an excellent exercise because not only does it hit the target muscle efficiently but it works on many other secondary muscles good too. It can be used in many different variations as well depending upon what works best for you. I use pronated grip barbell shrugs and alternated grip barbell shrugs. It gives my whole body a nice pump which is cool too.
I used to do them but i stopped last year, they are not essential in my book, but if that is a hard growth area for you then you should do them.
[QUOTE=coldfusion71;22085481]I used to do them but i stopped last year, they are not essential in my book, but if that is a hard growth area for you then you should do them.[/QUOTE]
Pretty much my thoughts as well. Unless you are struggling in that area I see no need. I did heavy bb shrugs front and back for awhile and pretty much noticed nothing.
My routine has upright rows, deadlifts and heaps of powercleaning so they get worked out pretty well. :)