It’s time to admit.... there is no “far left fringe” on the democratic side

The mainstream democratic view [i]is[/i] far left. Leftists on here can try to downplay it any way they want, but we can all hear what the candidates are saying. We pretty much knew it when they all raised their hands in support of free healthcare for illegal immigrants after pledging support for open borders(a debate that made even Sillie call it out for the sh!t show that it was). But if there was any doubt, we now have the front runner(Warren) saying that she would make sure her education secretary is approved by a mentally ill 9 year old. She also wants to federally legalize the knowing and deliberate transmission of HIV. That is in addition to reparations for blacks and gays, and openly attacking the 1st and 2nd amendments. Then you have her supporting Medicare for all, and “free” college. If these are the policies that put her ahead of all other candidates on the left then it’s time to face the music....there is no far-left fringe on your side of the aisle, there is a far-left majority.

they commies now

Yep they went over the edge.

Why do you think they have townhalls right now literally just for things like LQBQTTWLOLBBQ ranting. It's nuts.

lol what is your source, fox news LOL russian bot

This is the far left fringe:


[img]https://i.imgur.com/dskjHXU.jpg[/img]

The CNN town hall just confirmed it, they were fuking shrieking at Cuomo and other people who AGREE with them 90% of the time lol.

This is why it's time for conservatives to stop trying to go out of your way to appease leftists and try and convince them that you aren’t racist/sexist/homophobic etc. is a waste of time and energy.

If they’ll attack people who agree with them 90% of the time they sure as **** won’t cut you a break.

[QUOTE=Techriding101;1589533741]lol what is your source, fox news LOL russian bot[/QUOTE]


Source - 2 eyeballs and a functioning brain.




That’s pretty much all it takes these days to recognize the train wreck that is the current Democratic Party.

This is just the beginning. If you listen to the marxists who control the media/Dems/Big Tech, etc, they are telling you to your face how all this plays out. When getting 60% plus of the white vote means losing by 250 electoral and getting 10 million less votes, when 30 years ago it meant winning by 300 electoral and getting 7 million total votes then their hatred becomes actions.

Math has now become the enemy to our democratically elected representative form of govt, which means something different has to be installed....by any means necessary.

Their is a decades long war being waged against Americans from within and because it does not involve tanks/armed uprisings, etc.....they are winning. By the time both are needed, you won't have access to either. Much like free speech, by the time you realize you don't have it, you'll never get it back. With our current system, basic math guarantees that.

This video absolutely belongs in this thread.

1984 Interview with High ranked KGB propagandist that defected to Canada and worked for the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation in the 70's.

He explains exactly what is happening now. All of it. You should all watch (and share) from 1h07min until the end.

[youtube]zgmg2VFX058[/youtube]

If you watch the whole video, you will understand why this man was the REAL DEAL.

I guess all of the center left fringe Democrats hang out on this forum...

anti-Trumpers on this forum dont even talk about anything except Trump.

You wonder why? Because they cant talk about the left in a good way. That's how pathetic it is.

As a member of the far left fringe I can guarantee that the corporate sponsored moderate Democrats out number the far left 10-1. Things like Medicare for All have been a mainstream Democratic talking point since at least 1971. It was only in the past eight years that it was suddenly considered “far left.”

Agreed.

I haven't noticed many if any lefts here who are middle of the road or question the far lefts such as Warren and Bernie and the unrealistic social programs they are hawking. Instead, the lefts here just go with it and then try to rationalize these programs with no regards to simple economics and consequences.

[QUOTE=jtaylor2010;1589526871]The mainstream democratic view [i]is[/i] far left. Leftists on here can try to downplay it any way they want, but we can all hear what the candidates are saying. We pretty much knew it when they all raised their hands in support of free healthcare for illegal immigrants after pledging support for open borders(a debate that made even Sillie call it out for the sh!t show that it was). But if there was any doubt, we now have the front runner(Warren) saying that she would make sure her education secretary is approved by a mentally ill 9 year old. She also wants to federally legalize the knowing and deliberate transmission of HIV. That is in addition to reparations for blacks and gays, and openly attacking the 1st and 2nd amendments. Then you have her supporting Medicare for all, and “free” college. If these are the policies that put her ahead of all other candidates on the left then it’s time to face the music....there is no far-left fringe on your side of the aisle, there is a far-left majority.[/QUOTE]
I think there is a social conditioning going on to villianize the Left by giving them extra views that are unpopular by large.
Wealth is being concentrated by a select few, Wages are falling, worker rights are non-existent, the health care and education system make people sicker and dumber and nothing is being done about it.

[QUOTE=BullittEV;1589542601]anti-Trumpers on this forum dont even talk about anything except Trump.

You wonder why? Because they cant talk about the left in a good way. That's how pathetic it is.[/QUOTE]

The MSM is the same. Another reason is that they have no realistic policies that aren't Trillions of dollars wacko.

[QUOTE=Mark1T;1589543551]Agreed.

I haven't noticed many if any lefts here who are middle of the road or question the far lefts such as Warren and Bernie and the unrealistic social programs they are hawking. Instead, the lefts here just go with it and then try to rationalize these programs with no regards to simple economics and consequences.[/QUOTE]

Government run and subsidized Social programs are absolute garbage.

Take it from someone that grew up in a Socialist province (recently shifting right). This is REAL LIFE for Bernie fans:

I live in Quebec, Canada and NOTHING that is publicly funded works. The corruption is non stop. The money we pay through taxes just disappears in disastrous social programs. It's one corruption scandal after the other. It's reached a point where the whole population doesn't even care anymore and blindly pays constant newly added hidden taxes/fees/permits/whatever.

Health care: wait 14 hours at emergency, 4 years for a family doctor, 6 months for a specialist, horrible work conditions and salaries. Doctors leave to the U.S. or open private cabinets.
Cheap Education : Made Diplomas worthless / people study in useless trash and become Useful Idiots
Affordable Housing: Encourages welfare, non productive losers and ghettos
Work: Lower average salaries in professions where women have deeply invaded the job market because of Equal Pay. (Irony)

Instead of productive people, we have 300,000 Useful Idiots blocking Montreal for Greta and Antifa.
Heck, the Mayor (a crazy woman) LITERALLY gave the KEYS to the city of Montreal to Greta and Antifa, a Terrorist organization.

You want kangaroo courts?
We hold Commissions to investigate into corruption where the guilty ones have total immunity during these proceedings.

Welcome to Quebecistan. We have TONS of natural resources in this province, yet it is a welfare state because of social programs and corruption that siphon all the wealth.

We are 6 million people in Quebec. I can only imagine the disaster if we were 327 million.

Except for Alberta, the rest of Cucknada is becoming just as bad. Alberta would be better off by becoming a U.S. State at this point.

/rant

[QUOTE=JewishSuperHero;1589543151]As a member of the far left fringe I can guarantee that the corporate sponsored moderate Democrats out number the far left 10-1. Things like Medicare for All have been a mainstream Democratic talking point since at least 1971. It was only in the past eight years that it was suddenly considered “far left.”[/QUOTE]

You're still probably overestimating them. They're a fringe minority.

The problem is, the left can't seem to shake them off. They give them the majority of their attention.

And when the leaders come out in support of the policies of the fringe, vocal minority, those policies then become the policies of the party. Hence why the Democrats have been moving further and further left.

The Democrats are on a trajectory to alienate all of the normal people. They're going to end up losing all of their power, and then either they dissolve completely, or re-form without the ridiculous policies pandering to transgenders and illegals.

None of this is good for the country. Having one party be so completely inept so that it allows the Republicans complete control is terrible. I'm hoping eventually they can purge this and come back to the middle.

[QUOTE=tecom;1589548611]Government run and subsidized Social programs are absolute garbage.

Take it from someone that grew up in a Socialist province (recently shifting right). This is REAL LIFE for Bernie fans:

I live in Quebec, Canada and NOTHING that is publicly funded works. [/QUOTE]

Good post, tecom. Excellent post. This also mirrors Europe and exactly why it is in recession - government run and subsidized social programs. Europe will remain in recession until it recognizes this and does something about it. However, the far left is an arrogant bunch and they blame all of their failures on the rich and fat corporations, which have nothing to do with their failed policies.

Not to mention that Warren and Bernie and university professors teach their audiences that they are poor or not doing very well financially because of rich people. They are not wealthy because rich people have all the money - it is that stupid. So, our kids resent people who have succeeded and who have earned their money, instead of striving to become financially successful themselves. Therefore, Warren, Bernie and university professors succeed by making their audience want to be more dependent on the government and all things free. They are misleading liars.

ITT: a right wing collective mental breakdown/circle jerk

Here are some actual studies, and not "this guy I work with had a friend whose sister lives in Canada and this one time she had to wait 3 days at the emergency room"

[url]http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/best-healthcare-in-the-world/[/url]

[url]https://www.who.int/healthinfo/paper30.pdf[/url]


If wanting to have a healthcare system that doesn't lag behind all other first world democratic countries makes you a far left commie in your alternate reality then so be it.
Meanhile I will keep voting and advocating for a better healthcare system while ya'll can have fun with your gofundme pages when you or one of your loved ones gets cancer

[url]https://time.com/5516037/gofundme-medical-bills-one-third-ceo/[/url]

Imagine being American and not being utterly embarrassed by this.

LOL

[QUOTE=randombrah102;1589549331]ITT: a right wing collective mental breakdown/circle jerk

Here are some actual studies, and not "this guy I work with had a friend whose sister lives in Canada and this one time she had to wait 3 days at the emergency room"

[url]http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/best-healthcare-in-the-world/[/url]

[url]https://www.who.int/healthinfo/paper30.pdf[/url]

If wanting to have a healthcare system that doesn't lag behind all other first world democratic countries makes you a far left commie in your alternate reality then so be it.
Meanhile I will keep voting and advocating for a better healthcare system while ya'll can have fun with your gofundme pages when you or one of your loved ones gets cancer[/QUOTE]

My family and I have private health insurance and if I or anyone gets cancer, the health insurance pays for it.

BTW, tecom is a citizen of Canada. His opinion counts.

[QUOTE=randombrah102;1589549631][url]https://time.com/5516037/gofundme-medical-bills-one-third-ceo/[/url]

Imagine being American and not being utterly embarrassed by this.

LOL[/QUOTE]

You really believe that one-third of GoFundMe participants represent one-third of the population of the United States?

You should be embarrassed for your misleading posts.

[QUOTE=JoshSP1985;1589527071]Yep they went over the edge.

Why do you think they have townhalls right now literally just for things like LQBQTTWLOLBBQ ranting. It's nuts.[/QUOTE]

And speaking of..... Think Hillary and her hot sauce pandering was cringy? Uncle Joe says hold my beer bitch, you ain't seen nuthin' yet! :eek:

[url]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7563011/Joe-Biden-pretends-come-gay-LGBTQ-town-hall-event.html?ito=********_share_article-********_preferred-related&fbclid=IwAR0iFOaxqL3Uet3LYr1CafPTpV9skyo1JnahBtIbtDnmgnkag6gZP0FlgTA[/url]

[B]Joe Biden pretends to come out as gay during LGBTQ town hall event and reminisces about when gay culture meant 'the bath houses and the round the clock sex'[/B]

And here I thought the bath houses were shut down because they were literally a public health issue lol.

[I]Back' 15, 20 years ago, we talked about this in San Francisco was all about, well, you know, gay bath houses. And everybody - it's all about around-the-clock sex. Come on, man. Gay couples are more likely to say together longer than heterosexual couples,' he added...[/I]

[QUOTE=Mark1T;1589550491]My family and I have private health insurance and if I or anyone gets cancer, the health insurance pays for it.

BTW, tecom is a citizen of Canada. His opinion counts.[/QUOTE]

Well look at that, once again you are here with your "fuk you, I got mine" mentality.
Grats on your insurance, but many Americans either can't afford insurance at all or can only afford chitty insurance.

And no, his anecdotal evidence which might not even be true does not count. Not about to discount actual research studies done because a random guy on the internet wrote up a story.

They're socialists. When people say democrat - it means socialist.

[QUOTE=Mark1T;1589550571]You really believe that one-third of GoFundMe participants represent one-third of the population of the United States?

You should be embarrassed for your misleading posts.[/QUOTE]

No? Where did I say its 1/3 of the population of the United States? Try reading the article next time

"Nearly 250,000 campaigns have been set up through the site to help pay for health care costs, raising $650 million in contributions, according to the company’s website."

Point of that article is that Americans have to literally beg to get enough money for medical treatment. Sad and embarrassing.

[QUOTE=Techriding101;1589533741]lol what is your source, fox news LOL russian bot[/QUOTE]


Have you never visited the R/P before? First time here?

[img]https://i.imgur.com/pBoJa2h.png[/img]

Speaking as an [strike]independent[/strike] [i]satan[/i], our society is royally screwed. There simply is [i]no[/i] choice remaining because the left has been too thoroughly corrupted by an ideology predicated upon doublethink, hyperbole, hypocrisy, and blind uniformity in opinion that is anathema to compromise or civil discourse. It's overrun by woker ants who will die on any hill they are told that they should feel is worth sacrificing their own priorities, being slaves to a social [media] credit system and incapable of placing logic over their most base emotions.

The left in a general sense [i]needed[/i] to shut down this far flung, extremist nonsense before it got too out of hand, but the Rubicon has been crossed with the party itself spiraling in how to outdo the constantly revving insanity. Instead, it appears that far too much of the the

That is not to say that [i]all[/i] people who lean left fall into those descriptions, likely far from it, but the key problem facing us all is that those fringe people are the ones who are being placated and indulged because they are so easily manipulated to be the cannon fodder for any politician or corporation. Not only do those entities hold no loyalty to their fervent, social media drones, they also have no faith to the falsities they espouse in order to cajole their political pawns in the first place. Subsequently, everyone loses other than those pulling the strings as potential conversations devolve into shouting matches that get nowhere for the rest of us, effectively going against everything that our nation was founded upon.

[QUOTE=JewishSuperHero;1589543151]As a member of the far left fringe I can guarantee that the corporate sponsored moderate Democrats out number the far left 10-1. Things like Medicare for All have been a mainstream Democratic talking point since at least 1971. It was only in the past eight years that it was suddenly considered “far left.”[/QUOTE][i]Medicare[/i] is not far left; ideally, we would be able to provide for the betterment of our citizens, with an emphasis on "ideally." Actually getting there is a completely different matter, as well as something that we see is not such a clear-cut, snap of the fingers policy through nations that do have socialized healthcare, showing that there are also many cons accompanying the rosy picture too often painted. Reality leaves us with a "feel good" [i]idea[/i] on paper that has so many more ramifications that are being ignored in favor of that warm, fuzzy feeling.

Prioritizing medicare for illegal immigrants while United States veterans are left out in the cold is one absolutely far left example, and should be seen as the insult that it is to every law abiding American citizen.

[QUOTE=Bushmaster;1589550921]And speaking of..... Think Hillary and her hot sauce pandering was cringy? Uncle Joe says hold my beer bitch, you ain't seen nuthin' yet! :eek:

[url]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7563011/Joe-Biden-pretends-come-gay-LGBTQ-town-hall-event.html?ito=********_share_article-********_preferred-related&fbclid=IwAR0iFOaxqL3Uet3LYr1CafPTpV9skyo1JnahBtIbtDnmgnkag6gZP0FlgTA[/url]

[B]Joe Biden pretends to come out as gay during LGBTQ town hall event and reminisces about when gay culture meant 'the bath houses and the round the clock sex'[/B]

And here I thought the bath houses were shut down because they were literally a public health issue lol.

[I]Back' 15, 20 years ago, we talked about this in San Francisco was all about, well, you know, gay bath houses. And everybody - it's all about around-the-clock sex. Come on, man. Gay couples are more likely to say together longer than heterosexual couples,' he added...[/I][/QUOTE]

[youtube]f0G7F81LTZw[/youtube]

could have told you that when they released this poster

this is literally a communist poster

[img]https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51qlGgAh-LL.jpg[/img]