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[QUOTE=Cinderblock;1591560761]I've played every mainline Pokemon game, and honestly I had no idea how many sociopaths the pokemon community had until a couple weeks ago.
[B]Mfers are seething and threatening staff over a children's game.[/B] This is supposed to be a new journey. I didn't even know we were entitled to have Gamefreak give us every Pokemon ever made in every game they release.
I'm gonna pick Grookey, he looks cool.[/QUOTE]
Obviously threatening people is wrong but let's take a look at this objectively
1) this game costs $60 instead of $40 like previous titles.
2) the graphics are essentially the same as sun moon
3) there are half as many pokemon as previously
we're paying 50% more for less than half as much and a very barebones game
[QUOTE=BigBallsMcgee;1591590331]"They didnt do what I want" != lack of effort.
I hate gamers man, all you ever do is complain. Even when a game is good, you complain about whatever you can find to complain about.[/QUOTE]
Please, tell me where they put effort into this game. Cut pokemon, minimal content, reused assets/ animations/models from previous games when they're on record saying the cut content was to make everything from scratch.
You're either stupid or disingenuous.
[QUOTE=TokenV;1591580951]I only know the first 151 lol, played Red to death
don't remember any from Pearl, finished that game and never looked back at it
what's the opinion in the community about the no random encounters bit?[/QUOTE]
no random encounters is up in the air. some like it some don't. I don't think it's a bad thing. What i think is bad is in this game you don't see shinies in the overworld, only when you enter battle with them. And you can't catch pokemon above certain levels (locked behind which gym badge you have).
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[QUOTE=BigBallsMcgee;1591590331]"They didnt do what I want" != lack of effort.
I hate gamers man, all you ever do is complain. Even when a game is good, you complain about whatever you can find to complain about.[/QUOTE]
Higher out of box price for lesser game than previous iterations. Not about what I want, it's about what you're getting for the price.
I didnt complain about God of War, or Last of Us, or Dragon Quest XI, or a plethora of other games I've enjoyed. But when devs purposely cut corners we as consumers are allowed to call them out on it, as we protest with our wallets.
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[QUOTE=BearyManilowe;1591594211]Higher out of box price for lesser game than previous iterations. Not about what I want, it's about what you're getting for the price.
I didnt complain about God of War, or Last of Us, or Dragon Quest XI, or a plethora of other games I've enjoyed. But when devs purposely cut corners we as consumers are allowed to call them out on it, as we protest with our wallets.[/QUOTE]
But nintendo/Gamefreak don't care about any western outrage. Fortunately for us, the Japanese fans are blowing up massively over this as well
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fuarkkk brah, im such a fukin sucker for exclusive content
i just bought let's go eevee so i could get the exclusive eevee gigamax thing or w/e the fuk it is. already had let's go pikachu so i'll have that one too
anyway, both of my sword and shield preloads are rdy to go. fuarkkkkkk, 10ish more hours to go boyoz
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[QUOTE=bartosh;1591593281]Obviously threatening people is wrong but let's take a look at this objectively
1) this game costs $60 instead of $40 like previous titles.
2) the graphics are essentially the same as sun moon
3) there are half as many pokemon as previously
we're paying 50% more for less than half as much and a very barebones game
Please, tell me where they put effort into this game. Cut pokemon, minimal content, reused assets/ animations/models from previous games when they're on record saying the cut content was to make everything from scratch.
You're either stupid or disingenuous.
no random encounters is up in the air. some like it some don't. I don't think it's a bad thing. What i think is bad is in this game you don't see shinies in the overworld, only when you enter battle with them. And you can't catch pokemon above certain levels (locked behind which gym badge you have).[/QUOTE]
The game has good scores. Unless you think its easy to make a good game that you can do it without effort?
I could see if scores were like 5/10s but they're 8s and 9s mostly. You dont get that without effort
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[QUOTE=BigBallsMcgee;1591617241]The game has good scores. Unless you think its easy to make a good game that you can do it without effort?
I could see if scores were like 5/10s but they're 8s and 9s mostly. You dont get that without effort[/QUOTE]
wait until a few days after launch when the real non-bought reviews come out. I wouldn't be surprised if the average dropped 10%. Also, I don't think it's easy to make a good game but i'm confident I'm a better developer than a good amount of devs on their team based on what we're getting. When you're the single highest grossing media franchise (ahead of disney, marvel, hello kitty and literally every single other one in the world), i expect more.
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[QUOTE=bartosh;1591618421]wait until a few days after launch when the real non-bought reviews come out. I wouldn't be surprised if the average dropped 10%. Also, I don't think it's easy to make a good game but i'm confident I'm a better developer than a good amount of devs on their team based on what we're getting. When you're the single highest grossing media franchise (ahead of disney, marvel, hello kitty and literally every single other one in the world), i expect more.[/QUOTE]
Lol knew the paid reviews theory was coming. Not possible its s good game
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[QUOTE=BigBallsMcgee;1591621331]Lol knew the paid reviews theory was coming. Not possible its s good game[/QUOTE]
Imagine thinking paid reviews aren't a thing..
I can see why you're red.
YIKES.
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[QUOTE=kr1kit;1591623831]Imagine thinking paid reviews aren't a thing..
I can see why you're red.
YIKES.[/QUOTE]
I can believe it, but not when there's no evidence and the review is perfectly in line with what every single other pokemon game has gotten, and when you've never played the game yourself to confirm if the reviews are out of line.
jumping to paid reviews is a joke
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Pokemon's graphics have always sucked. I mean all I can assume is that they know people will play the game regardless, so they know they can afford to gradually increase the visual effects that are always years behind what the current games are capable of.
As for the game, definitely sounds like they left a lot of stuff out, and so guess I'm passing on it. Which is okay, i only occasionally get that itch to go back to pokemon and usually it's just to enjoy a little nostalgia and play a game that's nice and simple. I never have high hopes of them creating a pokemon game with enough depth to really get me all that excited.
Would be cool if they ever made a true RPG with it with quests, and story with depth, and actual decent graphics, and trainer battles that were a little harder than they currently are.
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This situation is why I hate the gaming community. It is the only one that rewards companies for ****ty products. If a movie sucks it bombs but if a game sucks? Millions sold due to people making excuses or ridiculing those mad at the changes.
****ty paid lootbox mechanics? Doesnt matter need next COD
Half ass the whole game? Screw you I just want to have fun
Hate freedom? Dude did you see the trailer for diablo 4?
Glad in today's new games we are paying for half the game with day one DLCs and lootbox mechanics everywhere. Cant wait to see whatever bull**** comes next.
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[QUOTE=PumkinPie;1591649031]This situation is why I hate the gaming community. It is the only one that rewards companies for ****ty products. If a movie sucks it bombs but if a game sucks? Millions sold due to people making excuses or ridiculing those mad at the changes.
****ty paid lootbox mechanics? Doesnt matter need next COD
Half ass the whole game? Screw you I just want to have fun
Hate freedom? Dude did you see the trailer for diablo 4?
Glad in today's new games we are paying for half the game with day one DLCs and lootbox mechanics everywhere. Cant wait to see whatever bull**** comes next.[/QUOTE]
And it’s a shame because even if you don’t put the money into a game and say “I won’t pay so they’ll earn their lesson” -> so many people pay that nothing will change. Especially with a game like Pokémon.
Here’s to hoping temtem becomes big. Competition is the largest driving force to change with these guys
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[QUOTE=PumkinPie;1591649031]This situation is why I hate the gaming community. It is the only one that rewards companies for ****ty products. If a movie sucks it bombs but if a game sucks? Millions sold due to people making excuses or ridiculing those mad at the changes.
****ty paid lootbox mechanics? Doesnt matter need next COD
Half ass the whole game? Screw you I just want to have fun
Hate freedom? Dude did you see the trailer for diablo 4?
Glad in today's new games we are paying for half the game with day one DLCs and lootbox mechanics everywhere. Cant wait to see whatever bull**** comes next.[/QUOTE]
Not getting what you want != half arseing it.
If this is half arseing it, which is a good game with good reviews, I'll take that any day.
Most fans do not give a $hit about the things the ultra nerds are raging about
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[QUOTE=Contribution05;1591635471]Pokemon's graphics have always sucked. I mean all I can assume is that they know people will play the game regardless, so they know they can afford to gradually increase the visual effects that are always years behind what the current games are capable of.
As for the game, definitely sounds like they left a lot of stuff out, and so guess I'm passing on it. Which is okay, i only occasionally get that itch to go back to pokemon and usually it's just to enjoy a little nostalgia and play a game that's nice and simple. I never have high hopes of them creating a pokemon game with enough depth to really get me all that excited.
Would be cool if they ever made a true RPG with it with quests, and story with depth, and actual decent graphics, and trainer battles that were a little harder than they currently are.[/QUOTE]
The graphics arent great, but it's a great art style that makes the game look really good imo. A la breath of the wild. Beautiful despite not having extremely great graphics
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[QUOTE=BigBallsMcgee;1591652251]Not getting what you want != half arseing it.
If this is half arseing it, which is a good game with good reviews, I'll take that any day.
Most fans do not give a $hit about the things the ultra nerds are raging about[/QUOTE]
You keep saying ultra nerds. But a game with less pokemon than the last iteration, no battle animations, etc are perfectly legitimate complaints.
Why do you defend some of these games so vehemently and then go into the Fallen Order thread and go "yeah but they made it like Dark Souls so I'm not as excited"?
If you as a developer are going to make a $60 title, it should fit the standard of a $60 title. Otherwise, stick to your budget prices.
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[QUOTE=BigBallsMcgee;1591652351]The graphics arent great, but it's a great art style that makes the game look really good imo. A la breath of the wild. Beautiful despite not having extremely great graphics[/QUOTE]
Lmao at you comparing these graphics to botw and not a Nintendo 64 game
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I've been playing it and it's pretty sweet, it's no Silver/Gold version but it'll work!
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[QUOTE=VeganBrahh;1591656591]I've been playing it and it's pretty sweet, it's no Silver/Gold version but it'll work![/QUOTE]
basically. this is a 20-30 hour game and not a 200+hour game like previous good pokemons. Still a 20 hours is 20 hours, when many are <10
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Just started and got to the wild area for the first time. It runs like **** but the concept is amazing, and it gives you so many Pokemon options early on. I love it
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I'm gonna say my biggest 2 complaints so far are:
1) it's pretty hard to see anything in handheld mode. seeing what pokemon are in tall grass in handheld is impossible (which i get, it shouldn't be easy because it's pokemon walking around tall grass)
2) restrictive camera controls, some areas you can rotate the camera and some you can't
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I think this is only the second time since gen 4 I dont give a fuk about any of the starters lol
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[QUOTE=VeganBrahh;1591672101]I think this is only the second time since gen 4 I dont give a fuk about any of the starters lol[/QUOTE]
Yeah I just looked at the evolutions and they all look horrible
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Thoughts so far? Worth a buy?
How is the difficulty? Is it for babies?
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[QUOTE=GolfPants;1591675341]Yeah I just looked at the evolutions and they all look horrible[/QUOTE]
Yeah, none of them are memorable, ill just evolve for the pokedex entry and move the fuk on lmao
[QUOTE=GhenghisPWN;1591676351]Thoughts so far? Worth a buy?
How is the difficulty? Is it for babies?[/QUOTE]
Im happy I bought it, to me it feels better than X/Y
Im still only at the second gym so its easy atm
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anyone ever think they didnt put all the other gen pokemon in the game cause its coming via paid DLC? If they told everyone that from the start, it would be outrage, but they come 6 months later and say heres this gen for $10 more bucks, the community would be happy
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[QUOTE=rocketfish;1591677061]anyone ever think they didnt put all the other gen pokemon in the game cause its coming via paid DLC?[/QUOTE]
Seems possible right?
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[QUOTE=GhenghisPWN;1591677751]Seems possible right?[/QUOTE]
very possible, considering how gaming has become a DLC money grab. You have new smash bro characters coming out for $5.. other games have new maps and skins for $$ (although those games like COD are met with negative attention)
nintendo's DLC has been met with all positive vibes, from zelda BOTW expansions, to smash bros, etc. Everyone seems to forget. I'm not guaranteeing it, but its very likely with the way nintendo has been doing DLC with their games lately.
honestly if you told me 1,000 pokemon were in this game, I probably would not have purchased it because its troubling to think of the vast amount of pokemon i would have to deal with.. considering I know of gen 1 pokemon while gen 2 I didn't even care for.
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[QUOTE=VeganBrahh;1591676801]Yeah, none of them are memorable, ill just evolve for the pokedex entry and move the fuk on lmao
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I saw a bunch of fake leaks and literally every single one of them was better than the actual result lol. Pretty sad that random people making chit up on the internet can do better than the designer.
[QUOTE=rocketfish;1591677061]anyone ever think they didnt put all the other gen pokemon in the game cause its coming via paid DLC? If they told everyone that from the start, it would be outrage, but they come 6 months later and say heres this gen for $10 more bucks, the community would be happy[/QUOTE]
Seems more likely to me that Game Freak are just terrible devs
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[QUOTE=GolfPants;1591678051]I saw a bunch of fake leaks and literally every single one of them was better than the actual result lol. Pretty sad that random people making chit up on the internet can do better than the designer.
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The feels, luckily some of my favorite pokemon are in this game so I dont need that poverty starter
