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You're right OP, I vote we let them try again
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[QUOTE=BerserkGrom;1632718613]What allowed it to rise and almost overwhelm the mighty Russian Bear was incompetent French and British Politicians.
If it weren't for the Munich agreement in 1938 where they practically gave capable of defending itself and then mighty Czechoslovakia, who then was 4th largest military in Europe, to Hitler, inability to aid Poland, who was attacked from left by Reich, south by Slovakia and 2 weeks later by Stalin from the East, Hitler's Wehrmacht and Schutzstaffel units would not be capable to grow so much in size or strength. Italy was as useless as a fork for eating soup.[/QUOTE]
Germany benefited from new tactics developed during the blitzkrieg that the soviets hadn't seen before. The soviets were busy moving their factories to the east, while fighting a delaying action with orderly retreats. Basically they bought time by giving up territory. This had the extra benefit of stretching German supply lines to untenable lengths. Once that winter hit and the eastern factories were up and running, the German ability to push east was over. If Germany wanted to win in the USSR, they should have arrived as liberators, particularly in the Ukraine. They would have had much support from people who were persecuted by Stalin. Instead, they acted like conquerors. I loathe communists and the USSR, but it was mostly they who defeated the Germans. We helped with Lend-Lease while their factories were being moved and we helped with the Western Front pressure in 1944-1945, but the soviets lost a whole generation of military-aged men in the war. Lots more Soviets died at the hands of Germans than Jews. Its odd to me how Hollywood, who otherwise worships communists, completely omits that fact from their movies. Up to 26 million Soviets died during WWII, including 11 million soldiers.
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EDIT: ^^^Wizard
Sure, in raw strength, OP is probably right, but their Blitzkrieg strategy absolutely wrecked for 2 years though.
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It was not just the blitz, they had been building up for years and repeatedly violated the Treaty of Versailles restricting what they could build or buy.
You had *******s like Sweden sealing their own fate by selling them bearings for tanks.
The other countries were also still licking wounds and did not expect warfare to change so much. If you have them a glimpse of what was in store and two years it may not have happened or been completely different. Let Russia start earlier without those initial losses and they would have handled germany single handedly.
I just checked. They believe Germany had a war economy six years before the invasion of Poland.
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really wish Hitler (pbuh) hadn't invaded Russia
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[QUOTE=Ratfish;1632770553]really wish Hitler (pbuh) hadn't invaded Russia[/QUOTE]
I wish someone just bought a few paintings from Hitler when he was younger.
He was just a miscer incel that got caught up in a movement. Buy a few paintings, tell him he is a good artist, and maybe all of that could have been avoided. Instead they gave him the young wincel treatment and he unleashed hell.
Treating people with decency would not stop all the world's problems, but who know how many mass killings and world events would have been changed if people just realized the kid they are giving a hard time may take it out on the world.
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[QUOTE=FingerFood;1632770303]It was not just the blitz, they had been building up for years and repeatedly violated the Treaty of Versailles restricting what they could build or buy.
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The Treaty of Versailles was pure garbage. Shame on those elites who pushed such an unfair treaty which set up another disastrous war.
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[QUOTE=MiscInformed;1632748493]Germany benefited from new tactics developed during the blitzkrieg that the soviets hadn't seen before. The soviets were busy moving their factories to the east, while fighting a delaying action with orderly retreats. Basically they bought time by giving up territory. This had the extra benefit of stretching German supply lines to untenable lengths. Once that winter hit and the eastern factories were up and running, the German ability to push east was over. If Germany wanted to win in the USSR, they should have arrived as liberators, particularly in the Ukraine. They would have had much support from people who were persecuted by Stalin. Instead, they acted like conquerors. I loathe communists and the USSR, but it was mostly they who defeated the Germans. We helped with Lend-Lease while their factories were being moved and we helped with the Western Front pressure in 1944-1945, but the soviets lost a whole generation of military-aged men in the war. Lots more Soviets died at the hands of Germans than Jews. Its odd to me how Hollywood, who otherwise worships communists, completely omits that fact from their movies. Up to 26 million Soviets died during WWII, including 11 million soldiers.[/QUOTE]
Is that why there are so many Russian hbb's now with no local men to marry ?
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not sure i get what your original post has to do with anything, yea no chit before their rise to power they weren't powerful LMAO wut?
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[QUOTE=LtGoose;1632747793]You're right OP, I vote we let them try again[/QUOTE]
Inshallah
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nobody knows wtf they are talking about when it comes to this topic, unless someone can show they have read proper books on the topic
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Where did Hitler learn his kung fu skills?
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[url]https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=178851881&page=1[/url]
good thread^
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[QUOTE=davik;1632788863]nobody knows wtf they are talking about when it comes to this topic, unless someone can show they have read proper books on the topic[/QUOTE]
I read mein kampf 1 and 2 ,pal