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not really depressed, but really sad right now, just broke my wrist so no lifting, which means i have nothing to distract me from the fact that i'm moving to another country and leaving my gf here (i know she is not THE ONE, but still hurts like leaving ur best friend), i decided i shouldn't talk to her while i'm there, it would make things harder than they need to be, just said goodbye. Lil sad, depressed? no...
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[QUOTE=neverquit2012;1010226673]I began struggling with depression back when I was 13 years old. I'm 17 now, and it's worse than ever. I'm not usually the type to go seeking help on the internet, but I've gotten to the point where i'll do anything. Other than my gf recently leaving me, I haven't had really any extremely hard things happen to me in my lifetime. I've got a good life, good family, money, great education, potential, friends, etc... Life just constantly feels meaningless though. I know it's stupid and irrational, but I constantly struggle with bitterness, anger, and depression and I'm not even sure why. I used to be a fairly talkative, funny guy, but I barely even talk anymore. I'm very monotone, stone faced, and robotic. I feel apathetic and don't really care about anything. I used to like being around people, but I hate it now and prefer being alone. The only thing that give me any happiness or relief anymore is weightlifting. I've begun training 6 days a week, 3 hours a day just to get relief. I know my problem probably sounds irrational and retarded, but I need some help/advice. After almost 5 years of feeling hopeless and angry, i'll do just about anything. Have any of you guys ever struggle with this and overcome it? Do you have any tips or advice?[/QUOTE]
That's pretty tough man. First off, there's nothing irrational or retarded there. There's this common misconception that there has to be a reason, like bad home life, abuse, etc., for someone to be depressed. That is just downright not true. Depression is becoming more and more the norm, especially for young people. Suicide rates for people 13-25 are through the freaking roof. Good on you for reaching out for help. Obviously you aren't alone, look at all the support you've received here already. There's a great NPO called To Write Love On Her Arms that I discovered when I was in a similar situation in high school. Their soul purpose is to raise money for depression and suicide awareness. They have all sorts of resources on their website, if you'd like to check that out. Your high school might have a counselor talk to and if they don't, they should at least have some pamphlets or leaflets with info for you. If you're relationship with your folks is good, I would advise sharing with them straight away. If you go see a professional about this, I suggest a Psychologist, not a psychiatrist. There is a difference. A psychologist studies, and cares about, possible internal and external reasons for things like depression. A psychiatrist will often times just try out different meds for you until one has a relatively good effect. I won't say they all do that, don't be afraid of psychiatry or anything. They study the same things psychologists do, and then they go to medical school. Just my personal opinion that Psychologists generally can tend to be more subjective, at least at first. They can also refer you to a good medical professional should they believe you require one. Keep sharing brother, it's good for you. Keep training, that's good for you. Get some help, you've already taken the first step in not becoming a statistic here.
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[QUOTE=guinaoum1;1010824303]not really depressed, but really sad right now, just broke my wrist so no lifting, which means i have nothing to distract me from the fact that i'm moving to another country and leaving my gf here (i know she is not THE ONE, but still hurts like leaving ur best friend), i decided i shouldn't talk to her while i'm there, it would make things harder than they need to be, just said goodbye. Lil sad, depressed? no...[/QUOTE]
Where you moving from too? id be sad if i was going through the same thing.. but just need to remember we are 17 and still got alot of things ahead of you. Mabye focus on your academic goals once you move there til your wrist heals? For the Next couple of months you may be sad until you settle down and meet new people. It will all turn out good in the end just remember that
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Jesus dont go seeking help..you dont want to be medicated at 17 years old..
Your still going through puberty man..your mind is all phucked up... just keep lifting hard and eating healthy and just find things that make u happy and keep u occupied.. trust me man its gunna get better i was exactly like u through out highschool
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[QUOTE=samuel6;1010827813]Where you moving from too? id be sad if i was going through the same thing.. but just need to remember we are 17 and still got alot of things ahead of you. Mabye focus on your academic goals once you move there til your wrist heals? For the Next couple of months you may be sad until you settle down and meet new people. It will all turn out good in the end just remember that[/QUOTE]
yeah i know everything will be ok, tho that doesn't change the fact it sucks right now
i'm moving to canada
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[QUOTE=guinaoum1;1010829823]yeah i know everything will be ok, tho that doesn't change the fact it sucks right now
i'm moving to canada[/QUOTE]
fellow canadian her.. we will accept u with open arms
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[QUOTE=SleeveStretchin;1010831553]fellow canadian her.. we will accept u with open arms[/QUOTE]
ty!
i'm looking foward to living there, and i'll be fine. Afterall we are not made of sand, it takes a lot more than 1 wave to knock us down.
Hope eveything works out for everyone, i kno i'll be fine, and if anyone here is having a bad time, know it will go away, dont ignore the problem deal with it. We all can chose to be happy.
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Yea man I definetely feel you on the depression man. I've been suffering from it ever since I was young and was very self abusive for most of the time (cutting, bashing my arm with a hammer, etc...) until recently when I saw a doctor and a therapist about it. With the help of the meds from the doctor and being able to talk about things with my therapist I've made a 180 change in my life.
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[QUOTE=SleeveStretchin;1010834323]where in canada?[/QUOTE]
Richmond BC
[QUOTE=unplugged;1010835533]Yea man I definetely feel you on the depression man. I've been suffering from it ever since I was young and was very self abusive for most of the time (cutting, bashing my arm with a hammer, etc...) until recently when I saw a doctor and a therapist about it. With the help of the meds from the doctor and being able to talk about things with my therapist I've made a 180 change in my life.[/QUOTE]
thats great man!
keep it up
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[QUOTE=guinaoum1;1010836743]Richmond BC
thats great man!
keep it up[/QUOTE]
Ypou are going to love bc!
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[QUOTE=PLANETGETLOW;1010799953]For all of you that are suffering with depression, let me shed some light on the subject and offer my advice;
#1 - Do NOT withdraw from society, you need to surround yourself with people you love and care for you. Get with a buddy or girl where you can do fun things and phuck the social media life. You need REAL people to be around.
#2 - Find peace for yourself, learn how to meditate, and if you're religious, pickup the bible.
#3 - Try to find a counselor that you can talk to that cares, reach out. You have to reach out, just like you did with this thread to get help. Talk to them daily/weekly to help you stay focused.
#4 - Medical help, I'm personally against this BUT there are cases where it's needed. You can use medication to get you through TOUGH times, and just ween yourself off of it.
#5 - You're not the only one to feel like this as I've learned over the years. When I was growing up, we didn't have social media or internet. You HAD to keep yourself busy and socialize with others. As time has evolved I blame technology for ALOT of issues going on with people today.
#6 - Lifting for me helps me mentally. I dig lifting because when I lift, I ONLY think about the iron.
#7 - Set yourself some life goals, small ones that will get you to big ones, and focus on hitting them. Many people do not have goals and just live day-to-day. I believe a person needs to have goals to shoot for. It gives us meaning and a purpose to live.
#8 - Go watch some porn, that always makes me feel better :)
OP (or anybody in here) can personally PM me anytime you want son. I'll try and help you as much as I can.[/QUOTE]
Definitely important to get into a flow of socializing and achieving goals gradually (no matter how small). The #1 trigger for depression for me at least is isolation.
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[QUOTE=artiechavarria;1010743813]Try to avoid relying on meds op, because one of my sisters is the same way. And when she runs out of anxiety pills all hell breaks loose and she gets worse and now it's gotten to the point where she can't live without them sadly.
The only advise I'm going to give you is seeking eternal life. Try going to church whatever your beliefs are, church helps a lot. Hope you get better op[/QUOTE]
lol if your sister wasnt on meds shed be crazy 24/7 instead of just when she runs out
There's no reason why a person can't take antidepressants alongside other life changes.. They will make it much easier to get into new habits to change your life.
The thing is, depression isn't logical and for some people they have no option other than chemical intervention because their brain chemistry is just whack. They will feel bad unless medication keeps them in check. Me for instance, I struggled with insomnia for years and tried to fix all the things I perceived as wrong in my life and it never really helped until I went on antidepressants. It positively changed my life so much because I can actually get sleep now and I dont get obsessive thoughts anymore. Btw im not hating on other methods like cognitive behavioural therapy, i think theyre awesome but i dont think they are as useful for depression as they are for other things like anxiety.
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[QUOTE=PLANETGETLOW;1010799953]For all of you that are suffering with depression, let me shed some light on the subject and offer my advice;
#1 - Do NOT withdraw from society, you need to surround yourself with people you love and care for you. Get with a buddy or girl where you can do fun things and phuck the social media life. You need REAL people to be around.
#2 - Find peace for yourself, learn how to meditate, and if you're religious, pickup the bible.
#3 - Try to find a counselor that you can talk to that cares, reach out. You have to reach out, just like you did with this thread to get help. Talk to them daily/weekly to help you stay focused.
#4 - Medical help, I'm personally against this BUT there are cases where it's needed. You can use medication to get you through TOUGH times, and just ween yourself off of it.
#5 - You're not the only one to feel like this as I've learned over the years. When I was growing up, we didn't have social media or internet. You HAD to keep yourself busy and socialize with others. As time has evolved I blame technology for ALOT of issues going on with people today.
#6 - Lifting for me helps me mentally. I dig lifting because when I lift, I ONLY think about the iron.
#7 - Set yourself some life goals, small ones that will get you to big ones, and focus on hitting them. Many people do not have goals and just live day-to-day. I believe a person needs to have goals to shoot for. It gives us meaning and a purpose to live.
#8 - Go watch some porn, that always makes me feel better :)
OP (or anybody in here) can personally PM me anytime you want son. I'll try and help you as much as I can.[/QUOTE]
Thanks a lot man. I think number 1 has been the hardest for me. I've never been an outgoing type of guy. I'm not shy or anything, I just don't have a strong desire to be around people and to be social. During the relationship with my gf, I pretty much spent all my social time hanging out with her and didn't hang out with anyone else even though other people were pursuing me and trying to be friendly. That was the dumbest mistake i've ever made and i really regret. A lot of the people who were trying to be friendly kinda lost interest and moved on because i was such an idiot. Now that she's gone, i've pretty much got no close friends and it's all my fault. I'm trying to fix my mistake and make friends with people again, but it's not working to great.
Haha i definitely agree with you on #5. I hate social media. I deleted my ******** and other social media crap long ago.
[QUOTE=samuel6;1010801413]Outstanding advice of the gods. repped on RC
But OP i was depressed a few years ago, Make sure you tell friends/family about it they will help you.. Go to the gym keep your mind off stuff and try go out even though you feel ****ty, Set yourself some goals in education or learning a new sport. Best of luck you will get through it brah
EDIT: And your mod rep should keep mind off things ;)[/QUOTE]
I've talked to my parents and they've been really supportive. The gym definitely helps. When I lift, it completely takes my mind off things.
dang, thanks for the reps haha :D
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[QUOTE=neverquit2012;1010942433]Thanks a lot man. I think number 1 has been the hardest for me. I've never been an outgoing type of guy. I'm not shy or anything, I just don't have a strong desire to be around people and to be social. During the relationship with my gf, I pretty much spent all my social time hanging out with her and didn't hang out with anyone else even though other people were pursuing me and trying to be friendly. That was the dumbest mistake i've ever made and i really regret. A lot of the people who were trying to be friendly kinda lost interest and moved on because i was such an idiot. Now that she's gone, i've pretty much got no close friends and it's all my fault. I'm trying to fix my mistake and make friends with people again, but it's not working to great.
Haha i definitely agree with you on #5. I hate social media. I deleted my ******** and other social media crap long ago.
I've talked to my parents and they've been really supportive. The gym definitely helps. When I lift, it completely takes my mind off things.
dang, thanks for the reps haha :D[/QUOTE]
Good to hear mate, Ive been through the exact same so if you ever need to talk about something feel free to PM me.
Thank PLANETGETLOW for them haha! but il get you on rc. Stay positive and strong!
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ive never suffered from say a condition of depression, but like many other people i have had pockets of extreme sadness where i felt like i just wanted to be alone and just stick to myself. For me, that was honestly the best thing i could do. not because i was ditching all my FAKE people who i thought where my friends, but becayse i took my sadness and anger and channeled it into something productive. I isolated myself and spend the time that i had focusing on college, lifting, dieting, and sleep. those 4 things were the only thing i worried about and i would sometimes go to the gym 2x a day just because i felt like it. working out relieves any bad feelings, stress, anger, sadness i have so i find it thereputical and very enjoyable. if i could, i would live in the gym and lift 24/7; what im trying to say is take your sadness or whatever the rwason may be and channel that into something else that will help you. dont worry about anybody else (except for very very close friends, girlfriends, or family) because chances are 99% of the people who claim to be ur friends would not be there for you if you actually needed them.
also, feel free to pm me if ur feeling down ill be more than willing to help you out
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Havent talked to anyone in over a month, feel pretty awkward still as a freshman in a commuter college. Can't even remember what it's like to have friends and stuff. 6 years like this, i wonder where it went. Can't bear to think about it really either. Just 6 years of loneliness and sadness when it should've been my best years as a highschool student.
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i know this is by no means to the same extent as others have faced, but i've always had issues with my height which caused me to be extremely depressed.Like very, very depressed. (i know im a girl and all, but for me it was something i just absolutely hated- made me feel so inferior physically as well as less attractive then taller girls). Did the meds (SSRI's to be exact)-caused me to be extremely bipolar emotionally so i had to stop. Now im on ****** which i have to take if i ever feel an emotional onset. i started working out everyday about a month and a half ago, and since then, with the increase in my confidence i've not had one emotional spill about my height. its given me something to keep my mind on and has absolutely priceless benefits for just a one hours work a day.
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[QUOTE=celineschirripa;1011792583]i know this is by no means to the same extent as others have faced, but i've always had issues with my height which caused me to be extremely depressed.Like very, very depressed. (i know im a girl and all, but for me it was something i just absolutely hated- made me feel so inferior physically as well as less attractive then taller girls). Did the meds (SSRI's to be exact)-caused me to be extremely bipolar emotionally so i had to stop. Now im on ****** which i have to take if i ever feel an emotional onset. i started working out everyday about a month and a half ago, and since then, with the increase in my confidence i've not had one emotional spill about my height. its given me something to keep my mind on and has absolutely priceless benefits for just a one hours work a day.[/QUOTE]
lol at a girl getting depressed over height
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[QUOTE=FeelTheFear;1011799813]lol at a girl getting depressed over height[/QUOTE]
im only 5 foot tall.
im sure its a real 'lol' feeling like id never be as desired as taller girls or have the same kind of presence they do in a crowd. being 'cute' instead of 'womanly'. aw yeah.
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[QUOTE=celineschirripa;1011831983]im only 5 foot tall.
im sure its a real 'lol' feeling like id never be as desired as taller girls or have the same kind of presence they do in a crowd. being 'cute' instead of 'womanly'. aw yeah.[/QUOTE]
some guys prefer tall girls, other short ones, some chubby others boneass girls.
U dont need anyones aproval, srs. Find someone YOU like, make it work...
I like 5'8+ girls and i'm 5'8.5 , srs isn't it a bit weird?
what i'm saying is, when it comes to girls, most guys prefer the short ones!
Now go work on those glutes, you are beautiful, height is just one of the many things that describe you.
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[QUOTE=celineschirripa;1011831983]im only 5 foot tall.
im sure its a real 'lol' feeling like id never be as desired as taller girls or have the same kind of presence they do in a crowd. being 'cute' instead of 'womanly'. aw yeah.[/QUOTE]
First of all, your stature will hardly affect your ability to get sex or attract men. Lots of dudes prefer smaller girls.
so you're complaining that you're only "cute" instead of "womanly"
if you were a short man you'd be "repulsive" instead of "manly"
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[QUOTE=celineschirripa;1011831983]im only 5 foot tall.
im sure its a real 'lol' feeling like id never be as desired as taller girls or have the same kind of presence they do in a crowd. being 'cute' instead of 'womanly'. aw yeah.[/QUOTE] Sorry you felt like that about yourself celineschirripa. Because even though your short your profile pic seems to make you look like a pretty good looking woman. ;)
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Message to OP
I know that we probably haven't experienced the same stuff and maybe your worse than I was or am. But, I hope you get things sorted out man. I have kinda similar depression. I live in a fairly wealthy place, good family school, etc. but I still feel depressed. For me it's just that material possessions, being "popular", and being a jock like most people enjoy don't make me happy. So, I don't really know what there is to look forward too. And, I continually question the point in living. I feel as if I'm just another person out of the billions in this world and I might as we'll die.
One thing that helps me though is do something nice for others. Because through my depression I care about others more because I want them to never feel the way I do. So, I try and do nice things for people to make them feel happy, valued, and etc. It just feels good for me, I know whatever I do I can't seem to make myself happy so it's nice to see that I can make people feel good.
And, I don't know who kept loling about the reasons people got depressed. But dude, people have a right to feel depressed or sad about whatever.
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Wow. Haha I didn't realize this thread had been turned into a sticky. Just want to let ya'll guys know i really appreciate all the responses. I went to the counseling for the first time 2 days ago, and I think things are going to start getting better.
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[QUOTE=neverquit2012;1010560253]I've been wanting to avoid meds since i've heard they often have more negative effects than positive ones. I talked to my doctor and he recommended a cognitive therapist. Anyone have any experience with cognitive therapy?[/QUOTE]
I have dealt with depression since I was in eight grade and have been cutting ever since (about 6 months without though!) I didn't really feel like cognitive therapists helped because I was stubborn and didn't want to believe anything they said. Ive been on a couple meds but the best was Welbutrin XL, there was no side effects and while most antidepressants make you gain weight, it actually makes you loose. I was also on Abilify but didn't really feel it helped and it was really f***ing expensive (like $400 for two weeks of meds) and Rivia, which was for the cutting addiction.
There is a book that I read called The Depression Cure which really helped me when I went off my meds. Its basically just talks about the waysfor help with depression without the use of medication and explains why.
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[QUOTE=Jalexander1994;1010518753]
Vitamin C
Vitamin B-Complex
Vitamin D12(I think that's it)
St. John's Wort
Multi-Vitamin
Choline/Inositol
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I'd stay away from the St. John's Wort- IIRC, that stuff reacts (badly) with quite a few meds.
[QUOTE=SleeveStretchin;1010829133]Jesus dont go seeking help.. you dont want to be medicated at 17[/QUOTE]
Stupid advice is stupid.
brb avoiding talking to someone and then ending my life because someone on the internet told me I was too young to have depression.
[QUOTE=celineschirripa;1011831983]im only 5 foot tall.
im sure its a real 'lol' feeling like id never be as desired as taller girls or have the same kind of presence they do in a crowd. being 'cute' instead of 'womanly'. aw yeah.[/QUOTE]
Most guys prefer shorter girls over taller girls, to be honest.
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Yes. I hated my life from middle school up to my senior year. None of you know what it truly feels like to come home from school everyday, waiting for the day you die. I've have personal issues, insecurity issues, and social issues. Therapy didn't help, medications didn't help. Improving myself did.
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[QUOTE=RainingBlood;1012729783]None of you know what it truly feels like to come home from school everyday, waiting for the day you die.[/QUOTE]
Some of us do, my friend.
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[QUOTE=RainingBlood;1012729783]Yes. I hated my life from middle school up to my senior year. None of you know what it truly feels like to come home from school everyday, waiting for the day you die. I've have personal issues, insecurity issues, and social issues. Therapy didn't help, medications didn't help. Improving myself did.[/QUOTE]
therapy and medication are just a kickstart tbh, glad u r ok now