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[QUOTE=stev0n;1595397661]In case you haven't seen...
GM lets their engineers drive the C8's here in Bowling Green as daily drivers. I have made a few passes against them in my daily C5 and THEY ARE QUICK!
Two GM guys got arrested the other night for racing their C8's doing 100+mph in a 45.
[url]https://jalopnik.com/two-gm-engineers-arrested-for-street-racing-c8-corvette-1840940028[/url]
I got sent a snapchat pic as the arrest was going down.. will find & upload it for reps!
Nah, I'll do it for the misc love![/QUOTE]
Great story, man. That is first-hand personal experience. I hope those guys kept their jobs, lol.
Resp Monday morning. C5s are nice :)
[QUOTE=1QWIK7;1595398691]The only main difference between the C7 stingray Z51 and the C7 grand sport is the bigger brakes, widebody to fit the bigger wheels and tires. Hence why you're going to get better lap times at whatever track. It has the same power as a base stingray.
Z06/ZR1 models have always been special. More power, extra goodies, especially as the years go by in the generation where each year gets revisions. Grand sports don't get all those goodies. They're just widebody base models. Nothing wrong with that, but i think for a mid engine car, at this stage of the game for GM, i don't think they're going to waste their time and resources to make a grandsport. Either you get the Z51 base or move up to the higher end models.
Whatever this camo widebody C8 is, it's going to be insane. I'm pretty sure it's the z06 because that's next to always debut after a base model. I just want it to come out already so i can place my deposit.[/QUOTE]
Agreed on the Grand Sport. They made some nice Grand Sports over the years and that was my favorite, but the C7 ZO6 is gorgeous.
Agreed on the insane whatever it is. Those rear meats are massive. So, to take that kind of horsepower and torque, might be necessary to keep it somewhat planted.
Reps Monday morning :)
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[QUOTE=Mark1T;1595399921]Great story, man. That is first-hand personal experience. I hope those guys kept their jobs, lol.
Resp Monday morning. C5s are nice :)
Agreed on the Grand Sport. They made some nice Grand Sports over the years and that was my favorite, but the C7 ZO6 is gorgeous.
Agreed on the insane whatever it is. Those rear meats are massive. So, to take that kind of horsepower and torque, might be necessary to keep it somewhat planted.
Reps Monday morning :)[/QUOTE]
Since the C6 Z/ZR days, GM put massive rubber in the rear. 325 or 335. 335's came on my Z. But if ******t temps aren't above 70, you need to drive for like an hour to warm up the stock pilot super sports. Otherwise they spin 1st and 2nd, sometimes 3rd. Not really confidence inspiring. It's scary.
I have used R888's in 325, multiple types of street tires in 335 and nitto invo's in 345 (phucking garbage), none of them hook except for the R888's. They hook. Tire treadwear rating is low but having good traction is worth it. They're loud as well. And should never be driven in temps 40 or below.
Since i drive my car year round, i had to put back my street tires.
With the C8, since all the weight is in the rear now, it should be relatively easier to hook. Like most supercars.
And of course the DCT and torque management helps big time too.
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Got it uploaded
[img]https://i.imgur.com/m8xXDcC.jpg[/img]
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[QUOTE=stev0n;1595405511]Got it uploaded
[img]https://i.imgur.com/m8xXDcC.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
lol that might be a familar sight once noobs get their C8. People that were never into cars. Or car people who were never corvette fans. Or people who just don't know how to drive a high performance car.
I hope the C8Z is a huge step up, money wise, over the stingray. That way not just anyone can get it.
I need to get mine already.
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New Chevy Corvette Z06 Plays Its Sweet V8 Tune On Camera
Just a couple of seconds of poor sound, but interesting.
[url]https://www.motor1.com/news/394018/chevrolet-corvette-z06-c8-video/[/url]
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[QUOTE=Mark1T;1596125111]New Chevy Corvette Z06 Plays Its Sweet V8 Tune On Camera
Just a couple of seconds of poor sound, but interesting.
[url]https://www.motor1.com/news/394018/chevrolet-corvette-z06-c8-video/[/url][/QUOTE]
It already looks amazing with the widebody lol. Holy phuck.
At first glance it looks like a mclaren, the way it's shaped because of the wider rear now.
This is such a tease i'm getting blue balls. I want to place my deposit already!!
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[QUOTE=1QWIK7;1590225791]Yeah i still gotta test drive the C8. I sat in one, started it, revved it, loved the way it feels when you're seated inside. Although hard to get used to the center console. There's some "camaro'ish" type tightness. Not as bad obviously but you get the impression the moment you sit inside.
Totally agree on the procharger. If the C8 was a bust, i was going to either upgrade to the C7 ZR1 or procharge my C7Z. The stock blower blows lol.[/QUOTE]
What do you reckon the C7 ZR1's will go for once the C8's have been out for a 6 months to a year?
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[QUOTE=MyBaddBrah;1596319931]What do you reckon the C7 ZR1's will go for once the C8's have been out for a 6 months to a year?[/QUOTE]
Prices for the C7 ZR1 will not go anywhere anytime soon. Remember the C7 ZR1 is a ONE YEAR production model. And the flagship model for the C7 lineup. It's going to be tough getting a good deal on that. But congrats if you do. Your best bet is to get a 2019 C7Z (which has all of the revisions). It has essentially all of the ZR1 components minus the blower, the light weight (stronger) wheels, and the ZR1 badge.
If a C7 is the car you want to keep for a long ass time, and don't care for price, then get the ZR1. Otherwise it's better to get the z06 for almost half the cost. (you can still get 2019's 1LZ leftovers for 70k).
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[QUOTE=1QWIK7;1596320491]Prices for the C7 ZR1 will not go anywhere anytime soon. Remember the C7 ZR1 is a ONE YEAR production model. And the flagship model for the C7 lineup. It's going to be tough getting a good deal on that. But congrats if you do. Your best bet is to get a 2019 C7Z (which has all of the revisions). It has essentially all of the ZR1 components minus the blower, the light weight (stronger) wheels, and the ZR1 badge.
If a C7 is the car you want to keep for a long ass time, and don't care for price, then get the ZR1. Otherwise it's better to get the z06 for almost half the cost. (you can still get 2019's 1LZ leftovers for 70k).[/QUOTE]
Dey sick, but wow $120k for 1,000 to 3,000 miles used. I think comparable new is like $135k no? [url]https://www.carfax.com/vehicle/1G1Y42D91K5700023[/url]
Z06 1,000 miles 3lz $79k wow big difference. [url]https://www.carfax.com/vehicle/1G1YU2D67K5603835[/url]
What is available now for C8 though? Just the stingray?
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[QUOTE=RobParks2M;1596342511]Dey sick, but wow $120k for 1,000 to 3,000 miles used. I think comparable new is like $135k no? [url]https://www.carfax.com/vehicle/1G1Y42D91K5700023[/url]
Z06 1,000 miles 3lz $79k wow big difference. [url]https://www.carfax.com/vehicle/1G1YU2D67K5603835[/url]
What is available now for C8 though? Just the stingray?[/QUOTE]
I've seen brand new ZR1's go for as high as 160k inflated when they first came out. The prices now seem realistic.
Higher trim levels are a waste to me as i don't need heated/cool seats or any of the other "luxuries". The stage 1 (1LZ), (1ZR) are the fastest trims because they aren't heavily equipped with aero. IF you don't track the car, getting all the aero slows you down, unless you like just looking good, while not going as fast as you could.
You can find some 2019 1LZ z06's for 70k if you shop at the big corvette lots. And there's already dudes on the forum trading in those 19's for the C8's. So you basically get a brand new 2019 that already took the deprecation hit from the first owner.
Yes so far the only C8 is the base, and then the Z51 package stingray. The Z06 model usually follows the stingray/base debut after 1 year, so i hope it's no different this time around. Because i want to place my order on one already. Watching the C8R race car today and i'm loving the sounds it makes. It's different and doesn't really sound like a V8, but since, IMHO, the C8 is a supercar now, it should make supercar sounds lol
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Can this **** hurry up and come out already? I plan on buying one used so I need to wait a few years even after it comes out. Any guesses on how much a base model With ~30-40k miles will be 3 years after it’s out?
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[QUOTE=ralphlaurenbrah;1596442261]Can this **** hurry up and come out already? I plan on buying one used so I need to wait a few years even after it comes out. Any guesses on how much a base model With ~30-40k miles will be 3 years after it’s out?[/QUOTE]
C8s are hitting dealers now.
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Anyone catch the C8-R's at Daytona for the Rolex 24?? Sort of impressive and sort of not... next year they'll be in the thick of it.
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[QUOTE=sumolgi;1596482521]Anyone catch the C8-R's at Daytona for the Rolex 24?? Sort of impressive and sort of not... next year they'll be in the thick of it.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I was watching them. Not bad for their first time out. Look at the first time out with the Ford GT... I don't know if any even finished their first 24 hour race. I'll bet team Corvette will do the same as Ford and be very competitive in LeMans in the next few years.
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[QUOTE=ralphlaurenbrah;1596442261]Can this **** hurry up and come out already? I plan on buying one used so I need to wait a few years even after it comes out. Any guesses on how much a base model With ~30-40k miles will be 3 years after it’s out?[/QUOTE]
GM said end of february we'll start seeing the C8's at actual dealers.
I feel like we'll see about the same speed of depreciation for the C8 as what we saw with the C7 stingray.
How much do C8's go for?? lol I don't even know. Been concentrating on the C8 Z06. Are they like 70k? So figure in the year 2023 it'll be like 50'ish?
But usually what GM does is that have gigantic discounts towards the end of the year at the big name corvette lots like kerbeck, criswell etc. That's how i got my C7Z, it was 18% off MSRP.
I should wait for a 2nd or 3rd year C8Z because i'm sure there's bugs that need to be worked out and i can probably get another year end discount but phuck that, i need to upgrade my car now lol
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[QUOTE=1QWIK7;1596496701]GM said end of february we'll start seeing the C8's at actual dealers.
I feel like we'll see about the same speed of depreciation for the C8 as what we saw with the C7 stingray.
How much do C8's go for?? lol I don't even know. Been concentrating on the C8 Z06. Are they like 70k? So figure in the year 2023 it'll be like 50'ish?
But usually what GM does is that have gigantic discounts towards the end of the year at the big name corvette lots like kerbeck, criswell etc. That's how i got my C7Z, it was 18% off MSRP.
[B]I should wait for a 2nd or 3rd year C8Z because i'm sure there's bugs that need to be worked out and i can probably get another year end discount but phuck that, i need to upgrade my car now lol[/B][/QUOTE]
I would consider getting a 2020 Z51 and driving it for 2-3 years until the Z06s are solid (no bugs) and even starting to see some discounts then trade it in. Historically first model year Z06s have a few issues so you end up paying the most for what is usually the worst model year to own. Buying a first model year Z06 only to trade it for a later model year would probably cost more than going from a Z51 to Z06.
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[QUOTE=6-SPEED;1596894981]I would consider getting a 2020 Z51 and driving it for 2-3 years until the Z06s are solid (no bugs) and even starting to see some discounts then trade it in. Historically first model year Z06s have a few issues so you end up paying the most for what is usually the worst model year to own. Buying a first model year Z06 only to trade it for a later model year would probably cost more than going from a Z51 to Z06.[/QUOTE]
There haven't been many 1st year C6Z issues and not many 1st year C7Z issues as well. I have seen people posting on the forum a lot of the 2018 and 2019 Z issues which is 4th and 5th year of the Z for the C7, problems i don't have in my car.
The only advantages in getting later years are the revisions, maybe a MAG ride update, added features in the cluster etc.
There are no power differences, or suspension geometry differences etc.
I can't see myself going from a Z car to a stingray, even though the C8 stingray is very impressive and wipes the floor with a C7 stingray/grandsport.
I like having new cars often so even if i get the first year C8Z, if the car is that good, i can always trade (or if i lease, get into a new lease on a later year C8Z), and just keep the car hopefully longer than i usually do as i can't foresee making a Z06 much better if there is a C9 way later in the future.
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[b]C8 Chevy Corvette Z06 Will Have 600-Plus HP and a Ferrari-Like Shriek[/b]
[i]The upcoming Chevy Corvette Z06 will be the first of several upcoming ultra-high-performance variants of the C8 Corvette. We expect it to go on sale in early 2021 as a 2022 model, starting at about $85,000. It's a return to the stripped-down-for-action, high-revving, track-worthy Vette embodied by the 505-hp 7.0-liter V-8-powered C6 Z06 of 2006 through 2013. This time, the Z06 will use a naturally aspirated DOHC 32-valve 5.5-liter V-8. Plus, it has a flat-plane crank, just like a Ferrari V-8. It should rev to between 8500 and 9000 rpm, spit out 600-plus horsepower, and shriek like something from Ferrari. It feeds an eight-speed dual-clutch automatic transaxle driving the rear wheels. This is no mere speculation; a detuned version of this engine is already powering the C8.R race car..... [/i]
[url]https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a32189182/chevy-corvette-z06-c8-confirmed-2021/[/url]
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[QUOTE=Mark1T;1603090231][b]C8 Chevy Corvette Z06 Will Have 600-Plus HP and a Ferrari-Like Shriek[/b]
[i]The upcoming Chevy Corvette Z06 will be the first of several upcoming ultra-high-performance variants of the C8 Corvette. We expect it to go on sale in early 2021 as a 2022 model, starting at about $85,000. It's a return to the stripped-down-for-action, high-revving, track-worthy Vette embodied by the 505-hp 7.0-liter V-8-powered C6 Z06 of 2006 through 2013. This time, the Z06 will use a naturally aspirated DOHC 32-valve 5.5-liter V-8. Plus, it has a flat-plane crank, just like a Ferrari V-8. It should rev to between 8500 and 9000 rpm, spit out 600-plus horsepower, and shriek like something from Ferrari. It feeds an eight-speed dual-clutch automatic transaxle driving the rear wheels. This is no mere speculation; a detuned version of this engine is already powering the C8.R race car..... [/i]
[url]https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a32189182/chevy-corvette-z06-c8-confirmed-2021/[/url][/QUOTE]
That chit is INCREDIBLE.
lol people have been talking chit about the c8 looks. I mean it's a base. Look at the c7 stingray. Kinda weak looking comparing to the widebody's.
If that's really what the C8 z06 will look like, everyone is now a corvette fan. Thank you GM for our first supercar!
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[QUOTE=1QWIK7;1603099451]That chit is INCREDIBLE.
lol people have been talking chit about the c8 looks. I mean it's a base. Look at the c7 stingray. Kinda weak looking comparing to the widebody's.
If that's really what the C8 z06 will look like, everyone is now a corvette fan. Thank you GM for our first supercar![/QUOTE]
Yeah, it's not too far out looking. Decent wheels and I hope Chevy has a few choices or of course there's after-market. Starting to look better.
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[QUOTE=Mark1T;1603099721]Yeah, it's not too far out looking. Decent wheels and I hope Chevy has a few choices or of course there's after-market. Starting to look better.[/QUOTE]
Well the wheels in that render look like regular GM cup wheels, from the C6 and C7.
There's a "leaked" photo of supposed C8 z06 wheels on the net, the carbon fiber ones but i doubt that will be fitted to the z06. But never know if high revving NA, lightweight is what they're going after. I suspect a lot of thieves will be eyeing those wheels.
It does look realistic comparing to the other renderings. This looks legit. Perhaps not those wheels, because they look like 22's on that car lol. And maybe not dropped like that. But idk, it could be.
The body looks about right, looks beefier, as a z06 should be.
Ahhhh i phucking can't wait to get mine already.
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Game changer for sure. If people are already saying the base C8 feels like McLarens they've driven, the Z06/ZR1s are going to make a lot of people feel stupid for paying hundreds of thousands more for less performance, the same sound, and although subjective, similar looks. Can't wait to see these on the street.
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[QUOTE=mingrey02stg2;1603118521]Game changer for sure. If people are already saying the base C8 feels like McLarens they've driven, the Z06/ZR1s are going to make a lot of people feel stupid for paying hundreds of thousands more for less performance, the same sound, and although subjective, similar looks. Can't wait to see these on the street.[/QUOTE]
The video feedback on the base model is proof of how far the corvette has come. I know youtuber's make their content for more hits so they have to get a C8 in there but others who are making reviews on the car alone, because that's their job show how amazing the car is. In base form. Like it's only the bottom of the lineup model lol. It's not even a z06, nor a zora or whatever the top of the line C8 will be.
I mean guys who can afford a mclaren or ferrari's aren't going to be jealous of people getting the C8 z06 lol, but they sure are going to feel some sort of way when these cars are running rings around them in a straight line or at the track.
This is GM's supercar, or america's supercar. The ford GT is amazing for sure. But at like 500k for a 6cyl lol, hard to swallow that pill.
Many many people are going to experience a supercar for under 100k. Even if GM prices out the z06 at 100k starting, still a bargain. Whatever the price is, i'm getting one so it doesn't matter.
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[QUOTE=1QWIK7;1603099451]That chit is INCREDIBLE.
lol people have been talking chit about the c8 looks. I mean it's a base. Look at the c7 stingray. Kinda weak looking comparing to the widebody's.
If that's really what the C8 z06 will look like, everyone is now a corvette fan. Thank you GM for our first supercar![/QUOTE]
It barely looks different, a little lipstick. it’s not changing any opinions. I think most would be lucky to notice much of a difference, it is what it is.
[QUOTE=1QWIK7;1603138011]
but they sure are going to feel some sort of way when these cars are running rings around them in a straight line or at the track.
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Probably the same feel as when a Miata blows their doors off. You can always build a faster car, they could have 1200hp+ corvettes for less if they wanted. I think gm did a great job though
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85k for the Z06 vs a used 911
Gotta go with the vette
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[QUOTE=blazenbb;1603146241]It barely looks different, a little lipstick. it’s not changing any opinions. I think most would be lucky to notice much of a difference, it is what it is.
Probably the same feel as when a Miata blows their doors off. You can always build a faster car, they could have 1200hp+ corvettes for less if they wanted. I think gm did a great job though[/QUOTE]
Would a Twin-Turbo 1200hp C8 do?
[url]http://hennesseyperformance.com/vehicles/chevrolet-2/corvette/c8/[/url]
[QUOTE=iifymbro;1603154641]85k for the Z06 vs a used 911
Gotta go with the vette[/QUOTE]
Good comparison and a toss-up for me. Two different, but great cars.
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[QUOTE=iifymbro;1603154641]85k for the Z06 vs a used 911
Gotta go with the vette[/QUOTE]
Which 911? There's like a million of them. Used turbo s, definitely a tough choice. But in the end i'd still choose the C8Z, because it's going to be an all new platform, plus it'll have a V8.
You just can't beat that, even though the flat 6 is incredible. And the PDK is world class.
Plus you'll absolutely get more looks in the C8Z, if it'll look like in that car and driver link. That chit looks amazing.
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[QUOTE=blazenbb;1603146241]It barely looks different, a little lipstick. it’s not changing any opinions. I think most would be lucky to notice much of a difference, it is what it is.
Probably the same feel as when a Miata blows their doors off. You can always build a faster car, they could have 1200hp+ corvettes for less if they wanted. I think gm did a great job though[/QUOTE]
Not really.
A miata has never been in the same category as a corvette in terms of performance, EVER.
A corvette has always been a contender with porsche, ferrari etc, for a while now. They are always competing. On the street, and on the race track.
Miata doesn't belong anywhere near these cars. A modified miata same thing. You can make it have 2000hp, most projects done like that are done half ass. With stock brakes etc.
And even if you do it properly, it's still a miata in the end.
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[QUOTE=1QWIK7;1603176581]Not really.
A miata has never been in the same category as a corvette in terms of performance, EVER.
A corvette has always been a contender with porsche, ferrari etc, for a while now. They are always competing. On the street, and on the race track.
Miata doesn't belong anywhere near these cars. A modified miata same thing. You can make it have 2000hp, most projects done like that are done half ass. With stock brakes etc.
And even if you do it properly, it's still a miata in the end.[/QUOTE]
Lmfao a Miata to a corvette is like what a corvette is to a Ferrari. They are never in the same category. Just like the Miata, It’s the same thing, at the end of the day it’s still a corvette
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[QUOTE=blazenbb;1603180231]Lmfao a Miata to a corvette is like what a corvette is to a Ferrari. They are never in the same category. Just like the Miata, It’s the same thing, at the end of the day it’s still a corvette[/QUOTE]
Like i said when talking about performance, no lol. A miata has never been in competition with a corvette ever. Not on the track, not on the street, never.
Corvettes have always been in competition with ferrari. They race on the track competitively and a C7Z and ZR1 can beat most ferrari's. Stock vs stock.
A miata is at the bottom of the barrel. You should have used a different car to make your argument lol
