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[QUOTE=letsallmakeit;1588115221]the sleeping is an issue im currently having, but mostly because of anxiety im guessing. sometimes i sweat during the night which is weird i think? i also wake up to pee like 2-5 times i don’t remember if i even reached 6 times lol. i do sleep around 6-8 hours tho, but damn i want to sleep deeper. i want to remember dreaming more x)[/QUOTE]
What are you anxious about exactly? I've had GAD for a loooong time, but it's been getting way way better.
I get up to pee 2+ times many nights... generally just fall back asleep tho. I drink a lot of liquids though.
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[QUOTE=AdamWW;1588116671]What are you anxious about exactly? I've had GAD for a loooong time, but it's been getting way way better.
I get up to pee 2+ times many nights... generally just fall back asleep tho. I drink a lot of liquids though.[/QUOTE]
ocd, man ocd. im getting therapy for it, mostly twice a week. it’s pretty bad. the majority of my days consist of pure ocd. i sometimes get anxiety from reading and writing. i think i even replied to your comments saying i deleted one to post it again or to post it again, but with an edit. mostly because of ocd and anxiety issues. im dealing with number ocd, so sometimes when i read i re read or delete the comments, replies or w/e several times until i get or i think i get the numbers that do not cause anxiety.
anyways, what is GAD?
so i have been dealing with food addiction (always thinking about food) and i want to know how to enjoy the foods when eating and just stop thinking about food until the next time im going to eat. the majority of my days (most of the times) consist of me thinking about food (did i said this correctly? i meant to say that i’m constantly thinking about food. sorry about my english) and can’t focus in the present most of the times. i sometimes even finish eating and i don’t care about sleep. like i prefer to eat. i really want to enjoy more sleeping :(. the thing is, food is a greatttt part of my comfort zone and for some reason i also enjoy the same food and healthier food every day than other unhealthier foods.
i know you mentioned about getting full to stop thinking about food, but even when feeling satisfied, which mostly happens by my last bite of food or when i stop drinking water during the night (because i don’t feel too satisfied or full during the day. i do at the end of my last bite of food or when i stop drinking water during the night), i still think about what im going to eat next. it’s annoying because i want to focus in the present moment and enjoy sleeping more.
thanks a lot for replying!
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[QUOTE=letsallmakeit;1588289811]ocd, man ocd. im getting therapy for it, mostly twice a week. it’s pretty bad. the majority of my days consist of pure ocd. i sometimes get anxiety from reading and writing. i think i even replied to your comments saying i deleted one to post it again or to post it again, but with an edit. mostly because of ocd and anxiety issues. im dealing with number ocd, so sometimes when i read i re read or delete the comments, replies or w/e several times until i get or i think i get the numbers that do not cause anxiety.
anyways, what is GAD?
so i have been dealing with food addiction (always thinking about food) and i want to know how to enjoy the foods when eating and just stop thinking about food until the next time im going to eat. the majority of my days (most of the times) consist of me thinking about food (did i said this correctly? i meant to say that i’m constantly thinking about food. sorry about my english) and can’t focus in the present most of the times. i sometimes even finish eating and i don’t care about sleep. like i prefer to eat. i really want to enjoy more sleeping :(. the thing is, food is a greatttt part of my comfort zone and for some reason i also enjoy the same food and healthier food every day than other unhealthier foods.
i know you mentioned about getting full to stop thinking about food, but even when feeling satisfied, which mostly happens by my last bite of food or when i stop drinking water during the night (because i don’t feel too satisfied or full during the day. i do at the end of my last bite of food or when i stop drinking water during the night), i still think about what im going to eat next. it’s annoying because i want to focus in the present moment and enjoy sleeping more.
thanks a lot for replying![/QUOTE]
GAD = Generalized Anxiety Disorder
I hear ya on the OCD. I have certain obsessive tendencies, though I don't think mine are extreme enough to quality as true 'OCD'.
I do understand what you mean by the constant thoughts about food, and my experience so far has been that consistency is the only thing that has ever allowed me to overcome the worst of it. I still struggle with it, but it's MUCH, MUCH better.
I'm curious, what do you do for fun? Do you often hang out with friends? Do you play any sports? Any hobbies that can occupy your time?
I ask because my food obsessions basically ripped away any interest I had in everything OTHER than what I would eat next. However, what truly got rid of it for me was eating enough of the right things that food no longer occupied my thoughts. For example, last weekend I went out for Sushi with a friend of mine, and I made a point to eat a LOT of sushi, to the point where i honestly didn't like the idea of food.
Eventually, because I had zero interest in the food, I had to focus on the other things in my life.
Had I just stayed at home and isolated, I would have been tempted into the obsession and planning, etc.
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What it do? Today I'm looking for help from people who understand something about nutrition. Last 5 years have been my worst years of my life. Never felt actually proud about myself since I'm currently 20 years of age, 5'10 (1.8m) with a weight of 220lbs (100kg). Always that tierd kid althrough having a good sleep at nights, 7 or 8 hours of sleep, sometimes maybe a bit less. I used to go to gym and work out, did it for a month or a bit more. Got myself down to 93kg and lost motivation. Currently I'm sitting pretty tight on drugs and alcohol, people ofter might see me under the influence of weed. Why have I came to the forums is, I've came to a agreement with myself that I need to change my life. My overall looks. I want to start that healthy lifestyle. As I have heard, nutrition is a big part of the process of cutting weight. Since I don't understand anything, is there anybody who could help me out with a standart, low calorie plan? Of course a good nutrition plan doesn't cut your weight, I've started some low physical activites, for example. I run every day in the morning before my Uni.
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[QUOTE=AdamWW;1588315131]GAD = Generalized Anxiety Disorder
I hear ya on the OCD. I have certain obsessive tendencies, though I don't think mine are extreme enough to quality as true 'OCD'.
I do understand what you mean by the constant thoughts about food, and my experience so far has been that consistency is the only thing that has ever allowed me to overcome the worst of it. I still struggle with it, but it's MUCH, MUCH better.
I'm curious, what do you do for fun? Do you often hang out with friends? Do you play any sports? Any hobbies that can occupy your time?
I ask because my food obsessions basically ripped away any interest I had in everything OTHER than what I would eat next. However, what truly got rid of it for me was eating enough of the right things that food no longer occupied my thoughts. For example, last weekend I went out for Sushi with a friend of mine, and I made a point to eat a LOT of sushi, to the point where i honestly didn't like the idea of food.
Eventually, because I had zero interest in the food, I had to focus on the other things in my life.
Had I just stayed at home and isolated, I would have been tempted into the obsession and planning, etc.[/QUOTE]
i get you. yeah i have been diagnosed with OCD, but i’m in therapy for it. hopefully, i’ll get better soon.
damnnnn, thats exactly what i think about several times. my two hobbies are, playing video games when i can and want too and go to the gym atleast 3 days of weightlifting and if i can and want too i do 1 day of incline walking as cardio on a treadmill. i do also walk around one hour around my neighborhood when i can and if i want too. because of food obsession, ocd and other things, i do not go outside much. i do not know how to make friends. i have a job (retailer), but it’s a part time job. i do try to distract myself there, but yeah sometimes (if i remember correctly, the majority of the times) it’s hard because of ocd, anxiety and hunger.
other than that. i don’t do anything else. i want too tho, but thats why im in therapy.
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[QUOTE=letsallmakeit;1588487181]i get you. yeah i have been diagnosed with OCD, but i’m in therapy for it. hopefully, i’ll get better soon.
damnnnn, thats exactly what i think about several times. my two hobbies are, playing video games when i can and want too and go to the gym atleast 3 days of weightlifting and if i can and want too i do 1 day of incline walking as cardio on a treadmill. i do also walk around one hour around my neighborhood when i can and if i want too. because of food obsession, ocd and other things, i do not go outside much. i do not know how to make friends. i have a job (retailer), but it’s a part time job. i do try to distract myself there, but yeah sometimes it’s hard because of ocd, anxiety and hunger.
other than that. i don’t do anything else. i want too tho, but thats why im in therapy.[/QUOTE]
When/if you can, I highly urge you to not isolate... do you truly not have any close friends? I really think building a social circle is important if you truly want to get better.
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[QUOTE=AdamWW;1588487341]When/if you can, I highly urge you to not isolate... do you truly not have any close friends? I really think building a social circle is important if you truly want to get better.[/QUOTE]
i do not, i’m in therapy to get better and hopefully start going out and enjoy living.
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hey guys so i have two questions,
1) how do you focus more in staying in the present moment. i usually start thinking about what i’m going to eat next even when i’m satisfied. tbh, i want to eat and live in the present moment and eat again when the time comes instead of constantly thinking about food.
2) how do you guys deal with pants getting tighter? i ask because i think when i put on my pants, i feel them tighter.
thanks!
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[QUOTE=letsallmakeit;1589153681]hey guys so i have two questions,
1) how do you focus more in staying in the present moment. i usually start thinking about what i’m going to eat next even when i’m satisfied. tbh, i want to eat and live in the present moment and eat again when the time comes instead of constantly thinking about food.
2) how do you guys deal with pants getting tighter? i ask because i think when i put on my pants, i feel them tighter.
thanks![/QUOTE]
1) I go hang out with friends, get OUT OF THE HOUSE, do something that requires attention, focus, etc... don't just sit around all day, etc. This is where building a social life helps.
2) I just bought new clothes.
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[QUOTE=AdamWW;1589163381]1) I go hang out with friends, get OUT OF THE HOUSE, do something that requires attention, focus, etc... don't just sit around all day, etc. This is where building a social life helps.
2) I just bought new clothes.[/QUOTE]
thanks for replying!
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The mainstream solution for anorexia is psycotherapy(family type for age in teen years), ssri's prescribed by a psychiatrist and a diet in a calorie surplus by a nutritionist.
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Alright, just wanted to check in again:
Have started TRT as per two weeks ago since my test levels where apparantly ran into the floor. I think i notice some general improvements in mood and energy, but expect the full effects to kick in over the course of a couple of months, which is good.
Have lately been experiencing these weird bingeing episodes -> basically the amount of food that made me super full three weeks ago, i can destroy in a heartbeat some days. Other days its more normalised. Dont know if this is "extreme hunger", a shift in mental attitude or an effect of the TRT. Either way it's honestly kinda scary. With mental attitude i mean that i'm really conscious about following my every craving -> even if i have eaten what i deem to be a "normal" meal, I will still eat whatever and how much i might still be craving afterwards. Still having so much trouble anticipating my hunger though - today for example when i got home from uni, i really felt like i couldnt stomach food. Decided to have a protein shake and buy some chips + chocolate to get SOME calories in. After starting eating i just got ravenous and destroyed all three items in like 30 min though. So weird
Weight is ticking upwards however and i continue to not deny my cravings :)
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[QUOTE=edrecoveryboii;1589403491]Alright, just wanted to check in again:
Have started TRT as per two weeks ago since my test levels where apparantly ran into the floor. I think i notice some general improvements in mood and energy, but expect the full effects to kick in over the course of a couple of months, which is good.
Have lately been experiencing these weird bingeing episodes -> basically the amount of food that made me super full three weeks ago, i can destroy in a heartbeat some days. Other days its more normalised. Dont know if this is "extreme hunger", a shift in mental attitude or an effect of the TRT. Either way it's honestly kinda scary. With mental attitude i mean that i'm really conscious about following my every craving -> even if i have eaten what i deem to be a "normal" meal, I will still eat whatever and how much i might still be craving afterwards. Still having so much trouble anticipating my hunger though - today for example when i got home from uni, i really felt like i couldnt stomach food. Decided to have a protein shake and buy some chips + chocolate to get SOME calories in. After starting eating i just got ravenous and destroyed all three items in like 30 min though. So weird
Weight is ticking upwards however and i continue to not deny my cravings :)[/QUOTE]
Sounds like extreme hunger to me. TRT doesn't do that.
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[QUOTE=AdamWW;1589403641]Sounds like extreme hunger to me. TRT doesn't do that.[/QUOTE]
Alright, have you had similar experiences? I keep fearing that these overeating episodes will result in a permanently expanded stomach, ie that i'll get used to eating more and more to the point where it will take a non-normal amount of food to satisfy me.
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[QUOTE=edrecoveryboii;1589410331]Alright, have you had similar experiences? I keep fearing that these overeating episodes will result in a permanently expanded stomach, ie that i'll get used to eating more and more to the point where it will take a non-normal amount of food to satisfy me.[/QUOTE]
Yup... I've had plenty of those... sometimes many days in a row.
It's normal, it settles when your weight is back to where it needs to be.
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Hey guys, I am 17 years old male, 5'5 and 112lbs. From the age of 14-16 I restricted my food intake and lost around 14kg. However now I just always feel like I am so hungry and food is always on my mind. I find myself pretty much every night get 2nds and 3rds at dinner and overeating till I physically can't eat anymore. Is this normal and should I just continue to listen to my body and just eat. Thanks. Also I just started trt and I am getting injections every 3 months. Thanks again
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hey guys. so for a long time most of my days i feel mentally exhausted and idk if it’s from sleep, food or something else. today for example, i feel mentally drainned, but physically okey. thoughts?
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hello!
so i posted in the nutrition section about how i feel and got some replies that made me think a lot.
i posted there because i have been feeling tired, losing motivation, mental fogness and other stuff.
people told me to eat more, which i started doing, but i still feel like i’m not recoverying very well.
even by hitting the gym 3 days a week i feel not fully recoverying.
i think i’m going to take a break from the gym and come back after 9 days off.
my problem is, i have done this, but i kinda feel the same if i remember correctly or symptoms shows up when i come back to train.
how long of a break i should actually take?
i have taken from weeks to a month and felt almost the same.
nutrition when time off i think i’ll let hunger guide me i guess. just don’t go hungry to bed. during this time.
during this time off i’ll be focusing in living in the present moment and ways to improve my life.
also black friday is coming. idk if i should wait until that week to take the week off or do it this week.
i’m also afraid that what if i get better when not weightlifting? heck why go back to weightlift if i feel better when not doing it? what would be the point in doing that?
thoughts and advice?
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[QUOTE=letsallmakeit;1590393141]so i posted in the nutrition section about how i feel and got some replies that made me think a lot.
i posted there because i have been feeling tired, losing motivation, mental fogness and other stuff.
people told me to eat more, which i started doing, but i still feel like i’m not recoverying very well.
even by hitting the gym 3 days a week i feel not fully recoverying.
i think i’m going to take a break from the gym and come back after 9 days off.
my problem is, i have done this, but i kinda feel the same if i remember correctly or symptoms shows up when i come back to train.
how long of a break i should actually take?
i have taken from weeks to a month and felt almost the same.
nutrition when time off i think i’ll let hunger guide me i guess. just don’t go hungry to bed. during this time.
during this time off i’ll be focusing in living in the present moment and ways to improve my life.
also black friday is coming. idk if i should wait until that week to take the week off or do it this week.
i’m also afraid that what if i get better when not weightlifting? heck why go back to weightlift if i feel better when not doing it? what would be the point in doing that?
thoughts and advice?[/QUOTE]
[B]how long of a break i should actually take?[/B]
Until you feel mentally and physically ready/excited to work out. Energized, happy about it, pumped to go crush weights. If not, then don't
[B]i have taken from weeks to a month and felt almost the same.[/B]
Then wait longer. Lift when you feel the urge.
[B]nutrition when time off i think i’ll let hunger guide me i guess. just don’t go hungry to bed. during this time.[/B]
It's not just not going to bed hungry, it's not going hungry period. ever.
[B]during this time off i’ll be focusing in living in the present moment and ways to improve my life.[/B]
VERY GOOD IDEA
[B]also black friday is coming. idk if i should wait until that week to take the week off or do it this week.[/B]
As I mentioned, you should not lift unless you feel mentally and physically ready and happy to go. Why would you want to delay this?
[B]i’m also afraid that what if i get better when not weightlifting? heck why go back to weightlift if i feel better when not doing it? what would be the point in doing that? [/B]
If you start feeling better and then feel like you wanna lift again, then do it. If the lifting then causes you issues, then stop, or figure out a schedule (1 day a week, 2 week, or less, who knows) where you can actually enjoy it.
If you only feel ready to lift once a week, or every 2 weeks, then that is what you should do.
If, in the end, you truly feel ready and happy to lift 3-4 days a week, then cool.
Only time will tell.
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Hey everyone, new to the forum and I thought I would reach out to get some advice. I'm a 26 year old male (5'10") that has been fat virtually my whole life. When I hit 20, something snapped in me and I did weeks of nutrition research and didn't touch "junk food" for a whole year while biking with a cyclist friend every single day.
Within the year, I dropped from 220 and 25% bf to 127 and 12% bf and coincidentally found a girlfriend who I still am with. However, one New Years' eve, I thought to myself "I've done a great job this year, I deserve to indulge" and I proceeded to eat an entire box of profiteroles. After that, I slowly "indulged" more and more until I put on about 30-40 pounds of fat.
Upset that I still haven't reached my goal (a healthy weight with healthy body fat aka a "normal" person), I've been pushing for the last 4 years but to no prevail. In fact, I'm back to 190 now with no muscle and still that horrible "fat kid" relationship with food. I've hired a personal trainer, I've tried IF, I've tried going vegan, everything. My binge eating is shameful, I will order Uber Eats when my girlfriend is at work (sometimes multiple times), eat the food and then hide it in the garbage bin so that noone will know.
Has anyone been through something like this? How did you get out of it? I need to change my relationship with food but it's so attached to my emotions that I just black out and have no control. I see a lot of advice about forgetting about dieting but I can't continue at this weight.
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Hey everyone, new to the forum and I thought I would reach out to get some advice. I'm a 26 year old male (5'10") that has been fat virtually my whole life. When I hit 20, something snapped in me and I did weeks of nutrition research and didn't touch "junk food" for a whole year while biking with a cyclist friend every single day.
Within the year, I dropped from 220 and 25% bf to 127 and 12% bf and coincidentally found a girlfriend who I still am with. However, one New Years' eve, I thought to myself "I've done a great job this year, I deserve to indulge" and I proceeded to eat an entire box of profiteroles. After that, I slowly "indulged" more and more until I put on about 30-40 pounds of fat.
Upset that I still haven't reached my goal (a healthy weight with healthy body fat aka a "normal" person), I've been pushing for the last 4 years but to no prevail. In fact, I'm back to 190 now with no muscle and still that horrible "fat kid" relationship with food. I've hired a personal trainer, I've tried IF, I've tried going vegan, everything. My binge eating is shameful, I will order Uber Eats when my girlfriend is at work (sometimes multiple times), eat the food and then hide it in the garbage bin so that noone will know.
Has anyone been through something like this? How did you get out of it? I need to change my relationship with food but it's so attached to my emotions that I just black out and have no control. I see a lot of advice about forgetting about dieting but I can't continue at this weight.
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[QUOTE=CDL93;1590400911]Hey everyone, new to the forum and I thought I would reach out to get some advice. I'm a 26 year old male (5'10") that has been fat virtually my whole life. When I hit 20, something snapped in me and I did weeks of nutrition research and didn't touch "junk food" for a whole year while biking with a cyclist friend every single day.
Within the year, I dropped from 220 and 25% bf to 127 and 12% bf and coincidentally found a girlfriend who I still am with. However, one New Years' eve, I thought to myself "I've done a great job this year, I deserve to indulge" and I proceeded to eat an entire box of profiteroles. After that, I slowly "indulged" more and more until I put on about 30-40 pounds of fat.
Upset that I still haven't reached my goal (a healthy weight with healthy body fat aka a "normal" person), I've been pushing for the last 4 years but to no prevail. In fact, I'm back to 190 now with no muscle and still that horrible "fat kid" relationship with food. I've hired a personal trainer, I've tried IF, I've tried going vegan, everything. My binge eating is shameful, I will order Uber Eats when my girlfriend is at work (sometimes multiple times), eat the food and then hide it in the garbage bin so that noone will know.
Has anyone been through something like this? How did you get out of it? I need to change my relationship with food but it's so attached to my emotions that I just black out and have no control. I see a lot of advice about forgetting about dieting but I can't continue at this weight.[/QUOTE]
I suggest professional help, and also check out the book "Brain Over Binge".
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[QUOTE=AdamWW;1590395631][B]how long of a break i should actually take?[/B]
Until you feel mentally and physically ready/excited to work out. Energized, happy about it, pumped to go crush weights. If not, then don't
[B]i have taken from weeks to a month and felt almost the same.[/B]
Then wait longer. Lift when you feel the urge.
[B]nutrition when time off i think i’ll let hunger guide me i guess. just don’t go hungry to bed. during this time.[/B]
It's not just not going to bed hungry, it's not going hungry period. ever.
[B]during this time off i’ll be focusing in living in the present moment and ways to improve my life.[/B]
VERY GOOD IDEA
[B]also black friday is coming. idk if i should wait until that week to take the week off or do it this week.[/B]
As I mentioned, you should not lift unless you feel mentally and physically ready and happy to go. Why would you want to delay this?
[B]i’m also afraid that what if i get better when not weightlifting? heck why go back to weightlift if i feel better when not doing it? what would be the point in doing that? [/B]
If you start feeling better and then feel like you wanna lift again, then do it. If the lifting then causes you issues, then stop, or figure out a schedule (1 day a week, 2 week, or less, who knows) where you can actually enjoy it.
If you only feel ready to lift once a week, or every 2 weeks, then that is what you should do.
If, in the end, you truly feel ready and happy to lift 3-4 days a week, then cool.
Only time will tell.[/QUOTE]
sorry for my english. what you meant by this is motivated? or just joy to come back to lift? i read we should go by discipline and not really by motivation to achieve goals?
i’m trying to see the difference between motivation and enjoyment.
one of my goal is actually do upper/lower split without feeling like i used too (mostly like i feel now).
i’ll take a break for sure
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[QUOTE=letsallmakeit;1590403851]sorry for my english. what you meant by this is motivated? or just joy to come back to lift? i read we should go by discipline and not really by motivation to achieve goals?
i’m trying to see the difference between motivation and enjoyment.
one of my goal is actually do upper/lower split without feeling like i used too (mostly like i feel now).
i’ll take a break for sure[/QUOTE]
Having the discipline to lift is not the same as forcing yourself to do something you don't want to do.
Not only is it a bad idea mentally, but if you're going to gym feeling such low energy and desire, you can risk hurting yourself.
I think the short answer here is: if you're questioning whether you should or not, then obviously you're not feeling like you should, so don't.
You need to be 100% sure you actually want to.
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[QUOTE=AdamWW;1590409921]Having the discipline to lift is not the same as forcing yourself to do something you don't want to do.
Not only is it a bad idea mentally, but if you're going to gym feeling such low energy and desire, you can risk hurting yourself.
I think the short answer here is: if you're questioning whether you should or not, then obviously you're not feeling like you should, so don't.
You need to be 100% sure you actually want to.[/QUOTE]
I get you!
thanks a lot for replying!
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[QUOTE=letsallmakeit;1590414831]I get you!
thanks a lot for replying![/QUOTE]
I just wanna second what Adam said. Unless you feel excited about going to the gym and you feel good when you leave, you're gonna be damaging your relationship with your body and mental/physical health in general. I even recently have taken some time off after feeling under-recovered, and I'm finding myself as excited about the gym as ever. I've found myself crying tears off joy after leaving the gym it feels so damn good. It feels amazing to workout and lift when you're feeling into it and your diet supports it, but if not, it can truly be torturous and deeply counterproductive to both your relationship with your body and your emotional wellbeing. I've had a passion for fitness since I was about 7 years old, but I've had phases where it just became torture for me. Those phases would have been VERY short-lived if I just listened to my body and took time off when it was needed. Instead, something I loved turned into something I hated. Edit*: When you do lift, be SURE to eat enough or else it'll become a big old fuking drag very quickly, especially at your weight.
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[QUOTE=Strawng;1590431401]I just wanna second what Adam said. Unless you feel excited about going to the gym and you feel good when you leave, you're gonna be damaging your relationship with your body and mental/physical health in general. I even recently have taken some time off after feeling under-recovered, and I'm finding myself as excited about the gym as ever. I've found myself crying tears off joy after leaving the gym it feels so damn good. It feels amazing to workout and lift when you're feeling into it and your diet supports it, but if not, it can truly be torturous and deeply counterproductive to both your relationship with your body and your emotional wellbeing. I've had a passion for fitness since I was about 7 years old, but I've had phases where it just became torture for me. Those phases would have been VERY short-lived if I just listened to my body and took time off when it was needed. Instead, something I loved turned into something I hated. Edit*: When you do lift, be SURE to eat enough or else it'll become a big old fuking drag very quickly, especially at your weight.[/QUOTE]
I’ve had similarly emotional responses to positive sessions, which I believe is largely due to my history with the opposite: terrible training sessions while in an under-fed and under-recovered state which left me feeling like I was a fool have ever gone... it almost made my entire history in lifting seem pointless.
Then, when I finally stated fueling myself and training for the joy of it, I realized how great it can feel, and that whole rebirth of motivation is incredible... like rekindling a relationship that nearly failed. Had I continued to push myself into the ground and force it, I’m not sure I would have been able to find that joy again... at least not for a long time.
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[QUOTE=AdamWW;1590432341]I’ve had similarly emotional responses to positive sessions, which I believe is largely due to my history with the opposite: terrible training sessions while in an under-fed and under-recovered state which left me feeling like I was a fool have ever gone... it almost made my entire history in lifting seem pointless.
Then, when I finally stated fueling myself and training for the joy of it, I realized how great it can feel, and that whole rebirth of motivation is incredible... like rekindling a relationship that nearly failed. Had I continued to push myself into the ground and force it, I’m not sure I would have been able to find that joy again... at least not for a long time.[/QUOTE]
Beautifully said. Forever OS!
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[QUOTE=Strawng;1590432561]Beautifully said. Forever OS![/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Strawng;1590431401]I just wanna second what Adam said. Unless you feel excited about going to the gym and you feel good when you leave, you're gonna be damaging your relationship with your body and mental/physical health in general. I even recently have taken some time off after feeling under-recovered, and I'm finding myself as excited about the gym as ever. I've found myself crying tears off joy after leaving the gym it feels so damn good. It feels amazing to workout and lift when you're feeling into it and your diet supports it, but if not, it can truly be torturous and deeply counterproductive to both your relationship with your body and your emotional wellbeing. I've had a passion for fitness since I was about 7 years old, but I've had phases where it just became torture for me. Those phases would have been VERY short-lived if I just listened to my body and took time off when it was needed. Instead, something I loved turned into something I hated. Edit*: When you do lift, be SURE to eat enough or else it'll become a big old fuking drag very quickly, especially at your weight.[/QUOTE]
hey! well yeah tbh, i was feeling badly and just said enough is enough and decided to just take a break and focus in other stuff in life like finding new friends, trying to do other activities (tomorrow my co workers will play basketball and i want and will go to play. i know i feel ****ed up now, but i’ll play. i gotta admit, i’m worried about my recovery, i don’t want it to get ****ed up even more lol.) and just other stuff. today i went to work and felt like total trash. i didn’t wanted to move or do ****, brain fog, mental fatigue, can’t think straight and just felt like going to bed tbh.
i do want to be energized and feel great after a workout because i forgot what that even feels like, but i also read people go to the gym even if they don’t like it or don’t feel like it because of discipline and goals. that made me think about being energetic to go vs discipline and having goals.
i’m wondering if i’m just extremely depressed and my anxiety, overthinking and stress is whats causing this and not training or diet.
i gotta admit, i would like to do upper lower split instead of the same full body routine i usually do, but if i feel burned out by 3 days, imagen 4 lol.
about your edit: i’m actually trying to eat what i can right now, like i’m planning to continue eating even if not training to keep improving in my obsessions with food even if i’m not working out. i will probably continue to have ed thoughts like i had today, but i’ll try to eat even if thoughts comes because i can’t continue yoyoing.