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[QUOTE=Wheyum;1014259193]Hey guys I'm starting a home gym and have been looking around for racks on CL. I used to work out in my buddies garage before moving and he has a rogue W-4 with bumper plates. I planned on getting bumpers and a similar setup. But all I see on here is power rack! Power rack! Power rack! Lol. I don't see the need if I'm using bumpers but [b]maybe I'm missing something[/b]? Thanks guys[/QUOTE]
Does the W-4 have safeties? I didn't think so. If you miss a lift, you'll understand
... if you survive.
I don't get the price of the W-4. It seems like a lot less material than a power rack but it's close in price.
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[QUOTE=morebarbell;1014275343]Does the W-4 have safeties? I didn't think so. If you miss a lift, you'll understand
I don't get the price of the W-4. It seems like a lot less material than a power rack but it's close in price.[/QUOTE]
$140 less than R-3! It's not that much less material, got those big wall connector pullup bar things. And you can add 20" safeties to it, for $135 and it becomes a half rack.
If you use bumpers you might get away with dropping missed squats with practice, oly lifters do. But bench needs those safeties.
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It's a $130 difference. At 565.00 vs 695.00, the $130 doesn't seem like that big of a price difference to me... about 18.7% difference. But if you add $135 for safeties, the W-4 is actually $5 more than the R-3 (without considering the shipping costs). I don't know....It's missing two uprights and safeties... just doesn't seem to be as good of a value for the $ to me.
[QUOTE=Detrus;1014292723]$140 less than R-3! It's not that much less material, got those big wall connector pullup bar things. And you can add 20" safeties to it, for $135 and it becomes a half rack.
If you use bumpers you might get away with dropping missed squats with practice, oly lifters do. But bench needs those safeties.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Detrus;1014292723]you can add 20" safeties to it, for $135 and it becomes a half rack.[/QUOTE]
Half racks have plate storage. It's a squat stand with a bunch of pull up bars. Waste of space, just buy an S2 if you are considering this.
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[QUOTE=GarageIron;1014324223]Half racks have plate storage. It's a squat stand with a bunch of pull up bars. Waste of space, just buy an S2 if you are considering this.[/QUOTE]
It seems to me if you are getting to this point, you may as well buy a decent full rack with the cash. So, now we have gone full circle.
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[QUOTE=Paulie_G;1014418893]It seems to me if you are getting to this point, you may as well buy a decent full rack with the cash. So, now we have gone full circle.[/QUOTE]
Agreed with GI and Paulie. Might as well buy the S2 or R4 and be done with it. Built in plate storage is going to save you a lot of time during your work out.
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[QUOTE=Paulie_G;1014155173]Hard to tell, without even a brand name to go on. However, Considering the dimensions and weight, it is no more that 14g steel, if you are lucky. I don't know if Id take a chance on something like that without a fair number of legit positive reviews on it.[/QUOTE]
I sent them a message, they said:
Hi, thanks for your email, it is 14 gauge.
heavy duty high quality solid steel at lowest price in the market,
hope to do business with you,
sincerely,
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[QUOTE=hypertek;1014549723]I sent them a message, they said:
Hi, thanks for your email, it is 14 gauge.
heavy duty high quality solid steel at lowest price in the market,
hope to do business with you,
sincerely,[/QUOTE]
Yeahhh...no. For that kind of price, it should be 11g. At that price, a Body Solid Refurb or a Powertec would be a much better option. Hell, if you went up $100 or so, you could grab a York rack, straight through a York rep.
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I think you guys, convinced me to go R-3 i dont really need the extra pullup bar space and didnt realize the spotter bars cost 135
Thanks!
R-3 eventually.. lol
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For those that bought the Dark Horse rack from Sorinex, how long did it take to get yours? I ordered mine on the 14th and it hasn't shipped yet. I was told that I would have it before the end of the month, but that isn't going to happen.
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[QUOTE=Kwazer;1015943203]For those that bought the Dark Horse rack from Sorinex, how long did it take to get yours? I ordered mine on the 14th and it hasn't shipped yet. I was told that I would have it before the end of the month, but that isn't going to happen.[/QUOTE]
I ordered mine on a Sunday night and it came that Thursday. I think mine was one of the first one that shipped out. I understand they are now getting smashed with orders for this rack.
The Dark Horse is also now available without plate storage for $799 shipped.
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I'm looking for a squat rack/cage and bench press and I was looking at those model. Keep in mind, space is an issue.
simple rack: [url]http://fitnessavenue.ca/item.php?id=367[/url]
rack with arm: [url]http://fitnessavenue.ca/item.php?id=409[/url]
cage 1 with monkey bars :[url]http://fitnessavenue.ca/item.php?id=263[/url]
cage/rack: [url]http://fitnessavenue.ca/item.php?id=501[/url]
What do you think?
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[QUOTE=GarageIron;1015947763]I ordered mine on a Sunday night and it came that Thursday. I think mine was one of the first one that shipped out. I understand they are now getting smashed with orders for this rack.
The Dark Horse is also now available without plate storage for $799 shipped.[/QUOTE]
Have you gotten any kick-backs for doing so much pr for them? I'd be trying to get them to send me a NP bench.
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[QUOTE=GarageIron;1015947763]I ordered mine on a Sunday night and it came that Thursday. I think mine was one of the first one that shipped out. I understand they are now getting smashed with orders for this rack.
The Dark Horse is also now available without plate storage for $799 shipped.[/QUOTE]
You are lucky that you got yours so fast!
Monday will be two weeks from the date that I ordered/paid for it. Mine is being shipped to Canada, and they haven't sent it out yet, so I'm guessing that it will be another couple of weeks. I just have to be patient I guess. Though it is hard...I have a smaller room, so I`ve delayed setting up my home gym until I have the rack in there so that I can see where everything will fit. I passed over the Bodysolid 3x3 rack that I could get locally, in order to get this, but I think it will be worth the wait.
When did the $799 option come around? I discussed options with them when I ordered mine, and they didn't tell me about this.
p.s...you should get some kick backs from them. When I ordered mine I told them that I first heard about it after reading your post on this forum.
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[QUOTE=Kwazer;1016122393]You are lucky that you got yours so fast!
Monday will be two weeks from the date that I ordered/paid for it. Mine is being shipped to Canada, and they haven't sent it out yet, so I'm guessing that it will be another couple of weeks. I just have to be patient I guess. Though it is hard...I have a smaller room, so I`ve delayed setting up my home gym until I have the rack in there so that I can see where everything will fit. I passed over the Bodysolid 3x3 rack that I could get locally, in order to get this, but I think it will be worth the wait.
When did the $799 option come around? I discussed options with them when I ordered mine, and they didn't tell me about this.
p.s...you should get some kick backs from them. When I ordered mine I told them that I first heard about it after reading your post on this forum.[/QUOTE]
You won't be disappointed... It's one bad a$$ rack. I've been traveling for business and haven't had much time to use it yet. I got mine with the NP bench that I will review. I'm sure Sorinex is getting crushed with orders for the Dark Horse. It's worth the $999 shipped all day long! I got mine about a week or so after ordering it, and it was ordered during the holidays. Great group of guys at Sorinex.
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[QUOTE=GarageIron;1015947763]I ordered mine on a Sunday night and it came that Thursday. I think mine was one of the first one that shipped out. I understand they are now getting smashed with orders for this rack.
The Dark Horse is also now available without plate storage for $799 shipped.[/QUOTE]
Sounds like successful brainwashing. Or this is more of the same shilling, just more subtle. "I ordered a Sorinex Dark Horse earlier this week to replace my Rogue R3. The R3 was a good rack but wasn't really what I was looking for." (because I’m so noble so I must be trustworthy). Uh huh. Makes perfect sense.
Definition of SHILL
1: to act as a shill
2: to act as a spokesperson or promoter
If you can't dazzle them honesty, baffle them with bull****.
AKA GarageIron: forum.bodybuilding.com
bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=150378953&
bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=126624063&page=50&
AKA Craig McInnes: board.crossfit.com
board.crossfit.com/showthread.php?t=79723
AKA Surag: naijafinder.com
naijafinder.com/workout-routines/240376-sorinex-dark-horse-power-rack.html
Perhaps the rest of you are GarageIron target market. GarageIron is banking on the brain-dead bodybuilding.com crowd to tweet their unending love for a SHILL feast such as this.
Interesting and obviously we already know such people infect most sites. GarageIron, come out of the closet as a paid shill.
Yeah, I think I nailed it.
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Angry crossfitter?^ :confused:
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[QUOTE=Kwazer;1016122393]You are lucky that you got yours so fast!
Monday will be two weeks from the date that I ordered/paid for it. Mine is being shipped to Canada,[/QUOTE]
How much did the shipping to Canada cost? (rough location of where you shipped to?)
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[QUOTE=IronWong;1017015553]Sounds like successful brainwashing. Or this is more of the same shilling, just more subtle. "I ordered a Sorinex Dark Horse earlier this week to replace my Rogue R3. The R3 was a good rack but wasn't really what I was looking for." (because I’m so noble so I must be trustworthy). Uh huh. Makes perfect sense.
Definition of SHILL
1: to act as a shill
2: to act as a spokesperson or promoter
If you can't dazzle them honesty, baffle them with bull****.
AKA GarageIron: forum.bodybuilding.com
bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=150378953&
bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=126624063&page=50&
AKA Craig McInnes: board.crossfit.com
board.crossfit.com/showthread.php?t=79723
AKA Surag: naijafinder.com
naijafinder.com/workout-routines/240376-sorinex-dark-horse-power-rack.html
Perhaps the rest of you are GarageIron target market. GarageIron is banking on the brain-dead bodybuilding.com crowd to tweet their unending love for a SHILL feast such as this.
Interesting and obviously we already know such people infect most sites. GarageIron, come out of the closet as a paid shill.
Yeah, I think I nailed it.[/QUOTE]
Your contribution to this forum is no more helpful to others than a boil in an armpit. Garageiron has been a good source of helpful information for some time. Come back when you actually have something that's of help to others. Oops- I see you're already banned.
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[QUOTE=NearMiss9;1017035683]How much did the shipping to Canada cost? (rough location of where you shipped to?)[/QUOTE]
They charged me $180 to BC.
Shipping within the US is free, so if you live close to the border, you can drive down and pick it up and bring it back yourself.
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Alright, so my Dad still yet to get me a christmas gift, and my birthday is in march, I was originally asking for a mig welder (I'm into cars) but i figure a cheap power rack I would probably use more. Whats best of the under $400 club on amazon with a cheap bench to go with it? TDS vs Atlas . Powerline is out of the question.
I'm sure a cheap rack is alot better than what I'm using now (no rack) and I surely can't outgrow it any time soon.
Maybe I could see if he could push for the powertec
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[QUOTE=hypertek;1017900943]Alright, so my Dad still yet to get me a christmas gift, and my birthday is in march, I was originally asking for a mig welder (I'm into cars) but i figure a cheap power rack I would probably use more. Whats best of the under $400 club on amazon with a cheap bench to go with it? TDS vs Atlas . Powerline is out of the question.
I'm sure a cheap rack is alot better than what I'm using now (no rack) and I surely can't outgrow it any time soon.
Maybe I could see if he could push for the powertec[/QUOTE]
I would wait until I could get a better rack, at least one that you wouldn't want to replace in a year or so. There are several good racks in the $400- $800 price range , or even better, get a really good used rack for the price of a cheap one.
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alright guys, finally have my own place (renting) and gonna get a rack so i dont have to keep trudging to the overcrowded base gyms and suffer with their terrible hours. I dont wanna skimp since I know ill have it for years and years so I might as well get a good quality. after reading a lot through this thread and other threads, I think Ive decided on an elite fts 3x3 byo. Some of my preferences: definitely strength and stability (even without bolting to the ground), weight storage, hole spacing, and a good assortment of extras/expandability to add extras later. I like the price and hole spacing on the texas strength, but the elite just really has everything. great construction, sumo base, great j hooks, etc. I looked at the legend and its nice, but no sumo base, hole spacing and a couple other features make it just decent. for just a couple hundred more, I could get the elite which seems much better. i know they are overpriced, but i'd rather get something once than have to purchase something better in a few years. i've done that too often, and esp with something over a grand as a starting point (even to go "cheap" with the darkhorse or something) i dont want to do it here. Any comments, info to push or pull me in any direction, or are the elite racks a good choice?
also, I need a bench and weights. should I package one of the elite adjustable benches with the rack to save shipping costs? or is there a certain top quality bench out there? searches didnt turn up too much other than people looking for cheap benches. I'm looking to get quality that will last a long time, not cheap stuff i dont wanna skimp the money on. I'll get a good quality oly bar and keep my eye out for ebay weights, but being in pensacola/milton, fl there is almost nothing on craigslist. so i'll probably have to buy a set online. Ive read york barbell is good quality and direct from their company would offer good packages and possible deals.
Thanks guys and all input is appreciated
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[QUOTE=irongrandpa;1017063663]Your contribution to this forum is no more helpful to others than a boil in an armpit. Garageiron has been a good source of helpful information for some time. Come back when you actually have something that's of help to others. Oops- I see you're already banned.[/QUOTE]
Yep you nailed it Irongrandpa. Garageiron's posts are always informed.
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[QUOTE=thebraj;1021045143]alright guys, finally have my own place (renting) and gonna get a rack so i dont have to keep trudging to the overcrowded base gyms and suffer with their terrible hours. I dont wanna skimp since I know ill have it for years and years so I might as well get a good quality. after reading a lot through this thread and other threads, I think Ive decided on an elite fts 3x3 byo. Some of my preferences: definitely strength and stability (even without bolting to the ground), weight storage, hole spacing, and a good assortment of extras/expandability to add extras later. I like the price and hole spacing on the texas strength, but the elite just really has everything. great construction, sumo base, great j hooks, etc. I looked at the legend and its nice, but no sumo base, hole spacing and a couple other features make it just decent. for just a couple hundred more, I could get the elite which seems much better. i know they are overpriced, but i'd rather get something once than have to purchase something better in a few years. i've done that too often, and esp with something over a grand as a starting point (even to go "cheap" with the darkhorse or something) i dont want to do it here. Any comments, info to push or pull me in any direction, or are the elite racks a good choice?
also, I need a bench and weights. should I package one of the elite adjustable benches with the rack to save shipping costs? or is there a certain top quality bench out there? searches didnt turn up too much other than people looking for cheap benches. I'm looking to get quality that will last a long time, not cheap stuff i dont wanna skimp the money on. I'll get a good quality oly bar and keep my eye out for ebay weights, but being in pensacola/milton, fl there is almost nothing on craigslist. so i'll probably have to buy a set online. Ive read york barbell is good quality and direct from their company would offer good packages and possible deals.
Thanks guys and all input is appreciated[/QUOTE]
I don't know anything about the racks you mentioned but I have a rack made by reflex and I don't think they get much more heavier duty than this. It weighs close the 300 lbs and you can get the plate storage as an option. I think they are around 900 dollars brand new, I bought mine used for 575 dollars recently. I love it. That sucks that there is not much on craigslist for you, thats where I bought mine. I guess I got real lucky because this has been the only nice rack I have seen in like 4 months and it was only like 20 minutes away. Good luck.
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Bough a dark horse a couple days ago. Can't wait to get it.
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[QUOTE=ahoskinson44;1021266353]I don't know anything about the racks you mentioned but I have a rack made by reflex and I don't think they get much more heavier duty than this. It weighs close the 300 lbs and you can get the plate storage as an option. I think they are around 900 dollars brand new, I bought mine used for 575 dollars recently. I love it. That sucks that there is not much on craigslist for you, thats where I bought mine. I guess I got real lucky because this has been the only nice rack I have seen in like 4 months and it was only like 20 minutes away. Good luck.[/QUOTE]
thats a great deal man! and yup the stuff on craigslist under workout stuff is garbage. they have some bench/weight deals but its like a cheap bench with toothpick supports from like walmart. theres like a 5 ft barbell and a handful of ****ty circular weights no more than 200 lbs total weight. and they ask like 300 bucks for this stuff. one guy was selling a cheap barbell, a curl bar, 20-30lbs of weights and one dumbell. his asking price was 200.. the only decent thing was a post from like december who was selling actual plates, not any good brand it seemed, but they were rusted/not the best condition. and was still asking 80 cents/lb. even if i could haggle to 50cents, they werent even nice enough for that. thats why i might as well buy new, and get the best instead of settling now and later needing to upgrade.
Anyone else have thoughts about my perspective purchase?
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[QUOTE=thebraj;1021045143]alright guys, finally have my own place (renting) and gonna get a rack so i dont have to keep trudging to the overcrowded base gyms and suffer with their terrible hours. I dont wanna skimp since I know ill have it for years and years so I might as well get a good quality. after reading a lot through this thread and other threads, I think Ive decided on an elite fts 3x3 byo. Some of my preferences: definitely strength and stability (even without bolting to the ground), weight storage, hole spacing, and a good assortment of extras/expandability to add extras later. I like the price and hole spacing on the texas strength, but the elite just really has everything. great construction, sumo base, great j hooks, etc. I looked at the legend and its nice, but no sumo base, hole spacing and a couple other features make it just decent. for just a couple hundred more, I could get the elite which seems much better. i know they are overpriced, but i'd rather get something once than have to purchase something better in a few years. i've done that too often, and esp with something over a grand as a starting point (even to go "cheap" with the darkhorse or something) i dont want to do it here. Any comments, info to push or pull me in any direction, or are the elite racks a good choice?
also, I need a bench and weights. should I package one of the elite adjustable benches with the rack to save shipping costs? or is there a certain top quality bench out there? searches didnt turn up too much other than people looking for cheap benches. I'm looking to get quality that will last a long time, not cheap stuff i dont wanna skimp the money on. I'll get a good quality oly bar and keep my eye out for ebay weights, but being in pensacola/milton, fl there is almost nothing on craigslist. so i'll probably have to buy a set online. Ive read york barbell is good quality and direct from their company would offer good packages and possible deals.
Thanks guys and all input is appreciated[/QUOTE]
Elite racks are always going to be a good choice. However, it depends whether you want to spend that kind of money or not. For $300-$400 less total shipped price, you can get the Dark Horse, or for $500 less, a Promaxima FW-163. Both are going to be about bulletproof, and last you a liftime. The Promaxima rack offers color options, with just a 2-3 week delivery time, and the racks are built in Houston in their own facility. What I'm saying, is that you can still get a high quality rack, without spending that kind of jack.
As far as quality plates go, I would contact Allison at York, Juan at Cemco, or Adamant Barbell for Troy commercial plates, with a $50 max shipping charge. There are times that going to Adamant barbell for Troy plates will be cheaper than company direct, because of $50 shipping, which 1/2 to a 1/3 less than company direct shipping quotes I've recieved.
It's too bad you are so damn far away. I just listed a crap load of Ivanko OM 45 pound plates for sale on my local craigslist. ;)
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So its been about two years since i purchased my Powertec rack and i could not be any happier. I stumbled upon this thread and decided to read through all the comments just for fun to see how the rack world has progressed. To my surprise as i started reaching the end of this thread more and more people where bashing the Powertec rack. I know its a beginner rack and all but it seems to be built quite well although i am unsure of the gauge in material. So i was just wondering what are the negatives considering this rack?
Price point?
Build quality?
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[QUOTE=SolyBuds;1022008063]So its been about two years since i purchased my Powertec rack and i could not be any happier. I stumbled upon this thread and decided to read through all the comments just for fun to see how the rack world has progressed. To my surprise as i started reaching the end of this thread more and more people where bashing the Powertec rack. I know its a beginner rack and all but it seems to be built quite well although i am unsure of the gauge in material. So i was just wondering what are the negatives considering this rack?
Price point?
Build quality?[/QUOTE]
from what i have seen it isnt a bad rack. i was trying to buy one used on CL but never heard from the person. i would have definitely got one if i could have used for a good price. as for new i figured it was pointless and to just spend like 300-400 more and get a dark horse which will definitely be better.