[QUOTE=MB13;373919341]i.e. He's telling you to EAT MORE!![/QUOTE]
LOL MB13 got it :D
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[QUOTE=MB13;373919341]i.e. He's telling you to EAT MORE!![/QUOTE]
LOL MB13 got it :D
Will be bumping calories and be adding to fat. Protein will remain steady at 250, and adding in ~200 calories. (+20g Fat).
Camera is coming with me to the gym in a couple hours. Lets see if i can continue to good luck on shoulders lately.
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[b][size=6] Pictures I took this morning --- After Meal 1 --- [/b][/size]
* See the Excess Skin and Stretch Marks? *
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[b][size=5][color=red] Shoulders & Triceps [/b][/size][/color]
[b] Highlight [/b]
Focusing on destroying PR's
[b] Song of the Day [/b]
Bless the Fall - A message to the Unknown
[youtube]1y4rbe02feE[/youtube]
[b][color=blue] One-Arm Dumbbell Shoulder Press [/b][/color]
75's x 8 (3 Sets)
*Video*
80's x 6 (1 Set)
[youtube]xEW3Ryj8iyc[/youtube]
[b][color=blue] Cable Lateral [/b][/color]
30 x 10 (2 Sets)
35 x 10 (1 Set)
[b][color=blue] Rear Dumbbell Raises [/b][/color]
20's x 10 (3 Sets)
[b][color=blue] Decline Close Grip Bench [/b][/color]
210 x 8 (4 Sets)
[youtube]PoCTGkEJ6_M[/youtube]
[b][color=blue] Cable Pressdowns [/b][/color]
175 x 10 (2 Sets)
190 x 9 (1 Set) <---- The Stack
[b][color=blue] Skullcrushers [/b][/color]
115 x 10
120 x 9 (2 Sets)
** All Rests were 1 minute between sets, and 2 minutes between exercises
[b]Overall[/b]
- PR's Across the Board! Some by 15lbs
- Off to work the rest of the night, cals will increase tomorrow, debating between + how much to CHO/Fat. Kind of strange to be eating this much at 160lb frame ;)
- time to GFH!
[b] Supps [/b]
Spring Nature Fish Oil
Centrum Multi Vitamin
Primaforce CLA
Primaforce Creaform
Primaforce ALA
Scivation Sesamin
[color=Brown]Scivation Whey[/color]
[color=Purple] Controlled Labs Purple InTrain [/color]
[color=green] Biotivia BioForge [/color]
[b] Diet [/b]
Fat: 100g
Carbohydrate: 425g
Protein: 250g
Calories: 3600
[b] Weight [/b]
163.8
*(thats what 10,000mg of sodium does to you)
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Great work. Pr's are insane.
Lookin' good bud. How are you liking Bioforge a 4caps/day?
I just picked up a bottle and gonna start it up pretty soon. How long are you gonna run it for?
[QUOTE=sdfan13;374221791]Lookin' good bud. How are you liking Bioforge a 4caps/day?
I just picked up a bottle and gonna start it up pretty soon. How long are you gonna run it for?[/QUOTE]
2 Bottles worth. I will be purchasing 2 bottles upon completing of this cycle if I see the results I want (which I have a feeling) for the future and utilizing it during a cut to see the effects.
[QUOTE=Surive123;374220941]Great work. Pr's are insane.[/QUOTE]
Definitely :)
[QUOTE=LayzieBone085;374384681]2 Bottles worth. I will be purchasing 2 bottles upon completing of this cycle if I see the results I want (which I have a feeling) for the future and utilizing it during a cut to see the effects.[/QUOTE]
You have the right feeling Bob.
Your log is coming along nicely Layzie, I'm digging the vids! Solid workout btw, glad to see you killing it in the gym.
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[b][size=5][color=red] Back [/b][/size][/color]
[b] Highlight [/b]
Attacking what lags, Time to Grow!
[b] Song of the Day [/b]
36 Crazyfists - Bloodwork
[youtube]jgUXmp0khUE&[/youtube]
[b][color=blue] Rack Deadlift [/b][/color]
275 x 8 (4 Sets)
*Stood on a box and it was below my knee cap, A lot harder.
[b][color=blue] Hammer Chins [/b][/color]
BW x 6 (2 Sets)
BW + 10 x 5 (2 Sets)
[b][color=blue] Dumbbell Row [/b][/color]
100's x 10 (3 Sets)
[b][color=blue] Low Cable Row [/b][/color]
120 x 10
140 x 10
160 x 9
** PR +40 Lbs!!!!!!
[b][color=blue] wide Grip Pulldowns [/b][/color]
120 x 8 (3 Sets)
[b][color=blue] Weighted Hang [/b][/color]
BW + 115 x 100 Seconds
**+15lbs
** All Rests were 1 minute between sets, and 2 minutes between exercises
[b]Overall[/b]
- One of the best sessions to day, a PR of +40 lbs,
- Weight is steadily rising and bumping around on these calories, I will let it settle before I make a move. Strength is a top priority over weight gain.
[b] Supps [/b]
Spring Nature Fish Oil
Centrum Multi Vitamin
Primaforce CLA
Primaforce Creaform
Primaforce ALA
Scivation Sesamin
[color=Brown]Scivation Whey[/color]
[color=Purple] Controlled Labs Purple InTrain [/color]
[color=green] Biotivia BioForge [/color]
[b] Diet [/b]
Fat: 100g
Carbohydrate: 425g
Protein: 250g
Calories: 3600
[b] Weight [/b]
164.0
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[QUOTE=LayzieBone085;374604481]
Strength is a top priority over weight gain.
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Don't you want to be a bodybuilder and compete?
[QUOTE=MB13;374626991]Don't you want to be a bodybuilder and compete?[/QUOTE]
Yup, but what is unwanted fat gain going to do at a fast rate? Nothing.. I have been there and back and did it on my last bulk, i gained 24lbs in 30 weeks and i had to cut for over 22 weeks to get a decent trim to me, there is no point. Lyle McDonald will tell you as well, and many other pro's or people who compete on here.
Here is a great article everyone should read and consider. Sure gaining weight is great, but if your just addding more fat than muscle, and its not contributing to anything but hard work attributed to cutting in the future, whats the benefit?
[url]http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/the-energy-balance-equation.html[/url]
[QUOTE=LayzieBone085;374740571]Yup, but what is unwanted fat gain going to do at a fast rate? Nothing.. I have been there and back and did it on my last bulk, i gained 24lbs in 30 weeks and i had to cut for over 22 weeks to get a decent trim to me, there is no point. Lyle McDonald will tell you as well, and many other pro's or people who compete on here.
Here is a great article everyone should read and consider. Sure gaining weight is great, but if your just addding more fat than muscle, and its not contributing to anything but hard work attributed to cutting in the future, whats the benefit?
[url]http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/the-energy-balance-equation.html[/url][/QUOTE]
Thank you so much for saying that. Someone today was telling me I have to eat 1000+ over maintenance in order to get huge. I laughed.
Like you said there is no point in adding more fat than muscle if you have to do extended cuts to just reveal your gains.
Repped for followin Lyle... he really knows his stuff. I'm currently trying his generic bulk routine. I hope for the best.
Subbed and GL with your log.
A PR of +40 lbs today???? :eek: :eek:
Hey, in your pics, what's that thing on your arm?
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[b][size=9] Bodybugg Update [/b][/size]
Bodybugg has been averaging about 3000 calories
Gained over 4lbs in this month of August, and that is too much for one month, and not at the pace I want to be at. Some reason i hit 160 at crawling pace, and now exploded 4lbs. Since the start of the log. Dont want to get back into my old ways and how my last bulk ended, I do not want to put myself through hell again and destroying my body for over 20+ weeks to get semi-lean again.
[IMG]http://i688.photobucket.com/albums/vv241/LayzieBone085/Bodybugg/Fri.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i688.photobucket.com/albums/vv241/LayzieBone085/Bodybugg/Sat.jpg[/IMG]
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[b][size=5][color=red] Chest & Biceps [/b][/size][/color]
[b] Highlight [/b]
Smoking it in the A.M.
[b] Song of the Day [/b]
Atreyu - Right Side of the Bed
[youtube]5YnPdDsxF7E[/youtube]
[b][color=blue] Incline Barbell Bench [/b][/color]
175 x 10 (Video) **+2 Reps**
185 x 7 *+1 Rep* (3 Sets)
[youtube]zzcXPmhRlUA[/youtube]
[b][color=blue] Flat Dumbbell Bench Press [/b][/color]
80's x 8 (4 Sets)
*Dropped 20lbs here and focused on flaring the elbows and exposing my chest.
[b][color=blue] Low Cable Crossovers [/b][/color]
55 x 10(4 Sets)
[b][color=blue] Barbell Curls [/b][/color]
85 x 10 (3 Sets)
*+2 Reps on all sets
[b][color=blue] Dumbbell Hammer Curls [/b][/color]
40's x 8 (3 Sets)
** All Rests were 1 minute between sets, and 2 minutes between exercises
[b]Overall[/b]
- Short, Sweet, and to the point.
- Had to really focus on flaring my elbows I need to engage my chest a lot more instead of powerlifting with my triceps. Time to get it to grow.
[b] Supps [/b]
Spring Nature Fish Oil
Centrum Multi Vitamin
Primaforce CLA
Primaforce Creaform
Primaforce ALA
Scivation Sesamin
[color=Brown]Scivation Whey[/color]
[color=Purple] Controlled Labs Purple InTrain [/color]
[color=green] Biotivia BioForge [/color]
[b] Diet [/b]
Fat: 100g
Carbohydrate: 400g
Protein: 250g
Calories: 3500
[b] Weight [/b]
164.4
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[QUOTE=LayzieBone085;375367401]
Gained over 4lbs in this month of August, and that is too much for one month, and not at the pace I want to be at. Some reason i hit 160 at crawling pace, and now exploded 4lbs. Since the start of the log. Dont want to get back into my old ways and how my last bulk ended, I do not want to put myself through hell again and destroying my body for over 20+ weeks to get semi-lean again.
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Are you gaining fat in your opinion?
[QUOTE=THEHUGE;375425601]Are you gaining fat in your opinion?[/QUOTE]
x2 Try taking some measurements of your waist as that is where most fat is usually stored and check for any substantial increases.
How is the bodybugg? Your maintenance is around 3000 on a non workout day?
[QUOTE=THEHUGE;375425601]Are you gaining fat in your opinion?[/QUOTE]
This is the difference in 11lbs
[IMG]http://i688.photobucket.com/albums/vv241/LayzieBone085/Pictures/DSCN0687.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i688.photobucket.com/albums/vv241/LayzieBone085/Pictures/DSCN1144.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i688.photobucket.com/albums/vv241/LayzieBone085/Pictures/DSCN0685.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i688.photobucket.com/albums/vv241/LayzieBone085/Pictures/DSCN1143.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=JJ22;375477111]x2 Try taking some measurements of your waist as that is where most fat is usually stored and check for any substantial increases.
How is the bodybugg? Your maintenance is around 3000 on a non workout day?[/QUOTE]
I have taken measurements and do to keep check. Waist has gone up a bit, but more so in other areas like chest,shoulders,arms,legs etc.
As a natural you cannot expect to gain so much muscle so fast, an average natural will rarely gain over 10lbs of muscle in a year IF THAT, at a 4lb pace, thats 30lbs of fat, and 10lbs of muscle if lucky.
I do not want to cut away 30lbs of crap for NO reason.
Get a nutritionist
[QUOTE=LayzieBone085;375507481]This is the difference in 11lbs
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I was asking only about the last 4 lbs.
[QUOTE=Diaboliclabs;375538331]Get a nutritionist[/QUOTE]
I just got done working with a Pro -- Tommy Jeffers (Sporto) for 6 months during my cut and he helped me a lot with nutrition.
[QUOTE=THEHUGE;375575971]I was asking only about the last 4 lbs.[/QUOTE]
Here are comparisons of the last 4lbs
[IMG]http://i688.photobucket.com/albums/vv241/LayzieBone085/Pictures/DSCN1057.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i688.photobucket.com/albums/vv241/LayzieBone085/Pictures/DSCN1059.jpg[/IMG]
Compared to above.
Lookin' good Layzie. What rate would be your preference to gain at? How many weeks are you running bioforge for?
Are you gonna drop your cals to gain at a slower pace now or what?
[QUOTE=sdfan13;375728711]Lookin' good Layzie. What rate would be your preference to gain at? How many weeks are you running bioforge for?
Are you gonna drop your cals to gain at a slower pace now or what?[/QUOTE]
about 2lbs a month max, being a natural you cannot gain as much muscle compared to someone who does run PH's/AAS, so the point to jack up calories and add weight at a lb a week would end up in 52lbs a year.. you will not gain more than 10lbs of muscle or a touch more if you have been lifting for some time.
Adding 42lbs of fat to my frame, just to cut it off is not on my agenda, ill keep cals at 3600 and not drop them, see what happens. Weight is just fluctuating and messing with my head.
Good idea. I think that with your workout intensity and high activity level, your calories should remain high. I think so many people see fluctuation in weight and get scared that they are gaining too much fat, but it could just be glycogen resynthesis coming off a cut, or even just water weight.
I'm about the same height and weight as you. Gonna be starting up bioforge next week. Should I start at 3/day then move to 4 if I need to? Or just go straight into 4/day like you're doing it?
Keep up the hard work
[QUOTE=sdfan13;375856541]Good idea. I think that with your workout intensity and high activity level, your calories should remain high. I think so many people see fluctuation in weight and get scared that they are gaining too much fat, but it could just be glycogen resynthesis coming off a cut, or even just water weight.
I'm about the same height and weight as you. Gonna be starting up bioforge next week. Should I start at 3/day then move to 4 if I need to? Or just go straight into 4/day like you're doing it?
Keep up the hard work[/QUOTE]
4/day.. i got done cutting over 6 months ago bro.. March 9th.
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[b][size=5][color=red] Legs [/b][/size][/color]
[b] Highlight [/b]
Spurting some Growth.
[b] Song of the Day [/b]
In Fear and Faith - There Be Pirates Among These Seas Whisky
[youtube]u_UZRE6Imv0[/youtube]
[b][color=blue] Squat [/b][/color]
245 x 8 (4 Sets)
*+10lbs
[b][color=blue] GHR [/b][/color]
BW x 6 (4 Sets)
*+1 Rep
[b][color=blue] Dumbbell Lunges[/b][/color]
70's x 10 (20 Steps) *3 Sets*
*+5Lbs
[b][color=blue] Lying Leg Curl [/b][/color]
120 x 10 (3 Sets)
*+10lbs
[b][color=blue] Leg Extension [/b][/color]
210 x 10 (3 Sets)
*+5 lbs
[b][color=blue] Seated Calf Raise [/b][/color]
3 Plates + 20 x 8 (3 Sets)
*+5lbs
[b][color=blue] Horizontal Calf Raise [/b][/color]
Stack x 10 (3 Sets)
*Stack = 370lbs
** All Rests were 1 minute between sets, and 2 minutes between exercises
[b]Overall[/b]
- Continual Progression, and weights keep going up
- Dosage still 2 caps pre-breakfast, and 2 caps about 8-12 hours later in the day
- I am amazed at how it feels my recovery is increasing as well between sets, I seemed to not get tired after a few sets of squats, i just wanted to get right back under the bar
- No libido symptoms at all (i never have had any in the first place prior to the log)
- [b] Bloodwork tomorrow morning, almost done with bottle 1... lets see if there are any changes in #'s [/b]
[b] Supps [/b]
Spring Nature Fish Oil
Centrum Multi Vitamin
Primaforce CLA
Primaforce Creaform
Primaforce ALA
Scivation Sesamin
[color=Brown]Scivation Whey[/color]
[color=Purple] Controlled Labs Purple InTrain [/color]
[color=green] Biotivia BioForge [/color]
[b] Diet [/b]
Fat: 100g
Carbohydrate: 425g
Protein: 250g
Calories: 3600
[b] Weight [/b]
162.9
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oh my bad, i thought you just came off a cut a bit a ago.
[QUOTE=sdfan13;375856541] Gonna be starting up bioforge next week. Should I start at 3/day then move to 4 if I need to? Or just go straight into 4/day like you're doing it?
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4 a day.
[QUOTE=LayzieBone085;375889891]
- [b] Bloodwork tomorrow morning, almost done with bottle 1... lets see if there are any changes in #'s [/b]
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Excellent strenght gains Bob! Can't wait for the bloodwork results.
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[b][size=5][color=red] Delts & Triceps [/b][/size][/color]
[b] Highlight [/b]
Leaving it all on the floor in Best Fitness
[b] Song of the Day [/b]
Devildriver - End of The Line
[youtube]shGcljUd9Ik[/youtube]
[b][color=blue] One-Arm Dumbbell Shoulder Press [/b][/color]
75's x 10
75's x 8 (3 Sets)
* +2 Reps
[b][color=blue] Cable Laterals [/b][/color]
35 x 10 (3 Sets)
*+2 Sets
[b][color=blue] Rear Dumbbell Raises[/b][/color]
20's x 12 (3 Sets)
*+2 Reps
[b][color=blue] Decline Close Grip Bench [/b][/color]
210 x 10
210 x 8(3 Sets)
*+2 Reps
[b][color=blue] Cable Pressdowns [/b][/color]
190 x 10 (3 Sets)
*PR All sets
[b][color=blue] SkullCrusher [/b][/color]
120 x 8 (3 Sets)
** All Rests were 1 minute between sets, and 2 minutes between exercises
[b]Overall[/b]
- Dosage 2 caps after bloodwork, and 2 caps later today (about 8-12 Hours apart)
- More PR's, and added more weight for more sets this session than last shoulders/triceps which is more PR's and pushing more weight.
- My recovery between sets/workouts is also increasing.
- Back to school tomorrow, about a few more days left on the first bottle, and bottle 2 will provide epic results
- Huge I hope you got 2 bottles left for me at the end of this log, looks like I will be making a purchase :)
[b] Supps [/b]
Spring Nature Fish Oil
Centrum Multi Vitamin
Primaforce CLA
Primaforce Creaform
Primaforce ALA
Scivation Sesamin
[color=Brown]Scivation Whey[/color]
[color=Purple] Controlled Labs Purple InTrain [/color]
[color=green] Biotivia BioForge [/color]
[b] Diet [/b]
Fat: 100g
Carbohydrate: 425g
Protein: 250g
Calories: 3600
[b] Weight [/b]
162.2
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nice work man, your killing it! nice tunes too, end of the line is the ****!