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[QUOTE=Ikeman83;1700464393]
Russia has had Ukraine on the Run all year, with Ukrainian positions that have held for a decade collapsing.
Iran's only hope in a war with the US would be to wait for public sentiment against the wholesale slaughter of their people to create political pressure for the US to offer them an opportunity to surrender.[/QUOTE]
Lol the front hardly moved in 2 years and during that time Russia lost Kharkiv region and the biggest city, Kherson. The only recent "success" after almost half a year of fighting and tens of thousands of ruskis dying is a 12 km move from avdiivka...wow! Surely Kiev will fall any week now... Lol
And this move was only possible because of western failure to support Ukraine.
So far it's a stalemate with some incursions here and there but nothing significant.
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[QUOTE=****inator;1700473193]Lol the front hardly moved in 2 years and during that time Russia lost Kharkiv region and the biggest city, Kherson. The only recent "success" after almost half a year of fighting and tens of thousands of ruskis dying is a 12 km move from avdiivka...wow! Surely Kiev will fall any week now... Lol
And this move was only possible because of western failure to support Ukraine.
So far it's a stalemate with some incursions here and there but nothing significant.[/QUOTE]
Insert crying [size=2]p[/size]haggy Wokjack meme.
At least you guys are finally reaching the acceptance part of the grief cycle. Only took two years of daily crying on a forum while hundreds of thousands of your boyfriends died. What's going to be even funnier is when you all forget about Ukraine when the first rapefugees arrive to finish the job Russia started.
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[QUOTE=****inator;1700462923]Well looking how weak Ruzzia is and can't even use the momentum when the support of the west was weak it's safe to say Ukraine has a good chance.
Meanwhile Iran has ZERO chance to defeat the US or Israel.[/QUOTE]
lol I think this might the greatest level of Cope ever witnessed on this forum.
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[QUOTE=Ikeman83;1700464393]Thirsty isn't a problem with US logistics.
Heat seeking tech is interesting but it doesn't appear that that makes it different from anything else. Meanwhile, fast.
I imagine those are problems for the Ukrainians, but again, not a problem for the US.
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American logistics are neither here nor there.
The reality is that since the Iraq war the world has changed. If the US used its tanks in modern warfare against a capable opponenet, the Abrahms will get wrecked.
They will be hit by drones and ATGM, just the same way they're being hit in Ukraine. If you went back into Iraq now you'd lose tanks at a very high rate - its not the early 2000's. Even small militias use tandem RPG (Like the Yasin) that can penetrate an Abrahms.
The world chas changed a lot since you last fought you just dont realise it yet.
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[QUOTE=****inator;1700473193]Lol the front hardly moved in 2 years and during that time Russia lost Kharkiv region and the biggest city, Kherson. The only recent "success" after almost half a year of fighting and tens of thousands of ruskis dying is a 12 km move from avdiivka...wow! Surely Kiev will fall any week now... Lol
And this move was only possible because of western failure to support Ukraine.
So far it's a stalemate with some incursions here and there but nothing significant.[/QUOTE]
Kharkov and Kherson were lost before the Surovikin reconfiguration. You're living in the past. Russia is decisvely winning this war and it will only get worse for Ukraine.
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[QUOTE=****inator;1700473193]Lol the front hardly moved in 2 years and during that time Russia lost Kharkiv region and the biggest city, Kherson. The only recent "success" after almost half a year of fighting and tens of thousands of ruskis dying is a 12 km move from avdiivka...wow! Surely Kiev will fall any week now... Lol
And this move was only possible because of western failure to support Ukraine.
So far it's a stalemate with some incursions here and there but nothing significant.[/QUOTE]
Yes and losing all of their elite units doing that is why you have to go back two years for cope
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[QUOTE=PimpinisEasy;1700474003]lol I think this might the greatest level of Cope ever witnessed on this forum.[/QUOTE]
When is Russia going to take back Kharkiv and Kherson?
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[QUOTE=chalup;1700476403]When is Russia going to take back Kharkiv and Kherson?[/QUOTE]
I don't know. I expect Khakov will be recaptured by Russia this year. I think Kherson will not be captured because it is a strategic weak point; which is why Russia initially abandoned it.
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[QUOTE=chalup;1700476403]When is Russia going to take back Kharkiv and Kherson?[/QUOTE]
It will happen before your prediction that Kherson would be a springboard to Crimea comes true
Just like your story about a secret nazi army in soledar
LOL
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[QUOTE=Zelensky;1700467573]Ukrainians dying for their own replacement:
[img]https://i.imgur.com/FHRCrbk.png[/img]
[url]https://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-looking-4-5-million-100541722.html?guccounter=1[/url][/QUOTE]
working as intended
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Well reports are coming out that Robotino has been captured by Russian forces
You know, that little town Kiev spent 5 months during its counter offensive last year to capture… the one where they lost thousands of troops, so much that they had to lower the draft age and increase in further aggressive mobilization tactics…
Yea, they lost Robotino… AYY LMAO just AYY LMAO
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[QUOTE=BasedBagel;1700485853]Well reports are coming out that Robotino has been captured by Russian forces
You know, that little town Kiev spent 5 months during its counter offensive last year to capture… the one where they lost thousands of troops, so much that they had to lower the draft age and increase in further aggressive mobilization tactics…
Yea, they lost Robotino… AYY LMAO just AYY LMAO[/QUOTE]
Wow huge win for Ukraine! I bet they celebrate this victory by lowering the recruitment age to 13 :)
Putin is finished for sure now
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[QUOTE=PimpinisEasy;1700474223][b]American logistics are neither here nor there. [/b]
The reality is that since the Iraq war the world has changed. If the US used its tanks in modern warfare against a capable opponenet, the Abrahms will get wrecked.
They will be hit by drones and ATGM, just the same way they're being hit in Ukraine. If you went back into Iraq now you'd lose tanks at a very high rate - its not the early 2000's. Even small militias use tandem RPG (Like the Yasin) that can penetrate an Abrahms.
The world chas changed a lot since you last fought you just dont realise it yet.[/QUOTE]
The single greatest warmaking capability of the US is not its ground, air, or naval forces, it's the consistent ability to deploy, redeploy, supply, and resupply those forces in any conditions, continuously, anywhere in the world.
The fact that you don't understand this is unsurprising but hilarious.
Like, "we purposely trained him wrong as a joke" hilarious.
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[QUOTE=chalup;1700476403]When is Russia going to take back Kharkiv and Kherson?[/QUOTE]
The problem for people who don't understand what's going on is that Russia is making large encirclements north and west of Avdiivka, which both accelerates the capture of territory but degrades the forces Ukraine has to defend with. Most of the last 2 years has been the Russians pushing against heavily fortified areas west of Donetsk, but the entire front, not just Avdiivka, has broken.
As the front collapses, Ukraine is in increasingly less prepared positions, and Russia is able to concentrate its forces further. That means more movement, more encirclement, and a higher rate of territory capture.
Sloviansk, Kramatorsk, and Kurakhove are up next, but I would be unsurprised to see Zaporizhzhia captured before Kharkiv or Kherson.
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lmao
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Someone explain to me why Russia doesn't open up another flank from the top of Ukraine on the Belarus/Russia border. They'd be within range of Kiev within a few weeks?
Is there some kind of geographical problem in this area that prevents them from opening up multiple warfronts or do they not have the manpower?
[img]https://i.imgur.com/FU8ziQP.png[/img]
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[QUOTE=****inator;1700473193]Lol the front hardly moved in 2 years and during that time Russia lost Kharkiv region and the biggest city, Kherson. The only recent "success" after almost half a year of fighting and tens of thousands of ruskis dying is a 12 km move from avdiivka...wow! Surely Kiev will fall any week now... Lol
And this move was only possible because of western failure to support Ukraine.
So far it's a stalemate with some incursions here and there but nothing significant.[/QUOTE]
LOL. The cope is off the charts.
No mention of the Ukrainian military getting weaker by the day, whole units being destroyed and the accelerating collapse?
The number of men and equipment being destroyed is a miilion times more important than taking land at this point. Eventually the Ukrainians will become so weak the Russians will just steamroll whats left and take as much land as they want. There will be no one left to stop them.
It's also why the billions in funding won't stop the inevitable, because they can't buy more fighting age men. Especially not experienced ones that will last more a week on the battlefield.
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I can see why Trump was supportive of the House speaker right before he moved forward the aid package. Aid to Ukraine is already quite unpopular and in 6 months nothing will most likely change in Ukraine but Zelensky will beg for more.
Biden has put himself in the corner and will have no choice but to campaign for more support for his puppet, for more money. I think Trump is banking for and will run on bringing a resolution rather than giving Ukraine a blank check, which most Americans can agree on.
Hope for Zelensky he can do something before the elections, otherwise it’s game over for him. Even if Biden wins, there won’t be many brave politicians left asking for more then 200b already sent.
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[QUOTE=Ikeman83;1700489283]The single greatest warmaking capability of the US is not its ground, air, or naval forces, it's the consistent ability to deploy, redeploy, supply, and resupply those forces in any conditions, continuously, anywhere in the world.
The fact that you don't understand this is unsurprising but hilarious.
Like, "we purposely trained him wrong as a joke" hilarious.[/QUOTE]
Yeh logistics are great and all, however its nothing to do with the threats MBTs face on the battlefield. The US data points for tank warfare are just old fashioned now. On the modern battlefield MBTs face greater threats from drones spotted artillery, FPV drones, ATGM, tandem RPG etc. Abrahs tanks can have the best logistics, but when a $500 drone wrecks them it wont realy matter.
If the US engaged in conflict it would face far higher tank losses than ever before.
I'm not 'trained' in warfare, I'm an engineer; still i have forgotten more about war than you've ever known.
Regardless, you're so called great logistics is not battle tested aganst serious opposition. In a war with Iran or Russia your logistic lines will actually be tested. We will see how great they are when they're constantly hit by missiles. I already know your military would collapse under such circumstances.
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[QUOTE=Ikeman83;1700490183]The problem for people who don't understand what's going on is that Russia is making large encirclements north and west of Avdiivka, which both accelerates the capture of territory but degrades the forces Ukraine has to defend with. Most of the last 2 years has been the Russians pushing against heavily fortified areas west of Donetsk, but the entire front, not just Avdiivka, has broken.
As the front collapses, Ukraine is in increasingly less prepared positions, and Russia is able to concentrate its forces further. That means more movement, more encirclement, and a higher rate of territory capture.
Sloviansk, Kramatorsk, and Kurakhove are up next, but I would be unsurprised to see Zaporizhzhia captured before Kharkiv or Kherson.[/QUOTE]
The Russians are in no rush. This war being extended benefits them. Everytime the US sends $60B it doesn't make a meaningful tangible benefit for the Ukrainian forces but it degrades the ability of the US. At this point the Russians have already beat Ukraine, now they're leveraging this victory to undermine opponents in western Europe and the US.
This is all agreed between Russia, Iran and China. They are working together to diminish the US.
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Iranian brah has been jacking off at the idea of US hegemony failing for years lol. You and me both, bud.
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[QUOTE=GhostofCricket;1700507063]Iranian brah has been jacking off at the idea of US hegemony failing for years lol. You and me both, bud.[/QUOTE]
lol tbh I probably appear more anti American than I am. I simply believe that all people of the world should be respected and that we are all better off with peace and free markets.
The US has been on a path of continual warfare and sanctions - they need to be humbled. A multi polar world that balances power will be preferable.
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[QUOTE=PimpinisEasy;1700474003]lol I think this might the greatest level of Cope ever witnessed on this forum.[/QUOTE]Okay so 2 more weeks right vatcucks?
Lol after 2 years of big bad Ruzzia not being able to conquer their third world neighbour you'd think you cucks would learn some humility, but alas that was never a ruski quality.
And the only real cope is you thinking a sh*thole like Iran can defeat Israel or USA. "bu..bu MUH DROONEEESSS!!" LMFAO! Durkas, when will they learn?
[url]https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1784992418871345378[/url]
[B]"If you combine both data streams I have showed in the previous posts then it means that Russia loses up to 45 pieces of hardware a day (destroyed and damaged) to gain 0.7 square kilometers a day.
To put things into perspective I have added this map. There are still around 10,700 square kilometers of the free Donetsk Region, which are under Ukrainian control. If we round this up to 1.0 square kilometer, which Russians take a day, then it will take them 10,700 days (29,3 Years) to only take this single Ukrainian region"[/B]
LOL at vatniks coping that it's not a stalemate and Ruzzia is """winning""", just LMFAO!
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The US Department of Treasury has eased sanctions on 10 of the largest Russian banks. The American Ministry of Finance has authorized transactions with Russian banks for payments “for energy,” including for oil, gas and timber.
[img]https://i.imgur.com/0sKtZfH.jpeg[/img]
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[quote=reppinhoes69;1700510073]the us department of treasury has eased sanctions on 10 of the largest russian banks. The american ministry of finance has authorized transactions with russian banks for payments “for energy,” including for oil, gas and timber.
[img]https://i.imgur.com/0sktzfh.jpeg[/img]
[img]https://swiftmedia.s3.amazonaws.com/mountain.swiftcom.com/images/sites/6/2016/10/26083207/creepyclowns-atd-100616-827x1240.jpg[/img][/quote]
ayy lmao
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[QUOTE=Stizzel;1700478793]It will happen before your prediction that Kherson would be a springboard to Crimea comes true
Just like your story about a secret nazi army in soledar
LOL[/QUOTE]
ive never said Ukraine will take back Crimea you retarded vatnik.
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let's go traditional values
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[QUOTE=****inator;1700508763]Okay so 2 more weeks right vatcucks?
Lol after 2 years of big bad Ruzzia not being able to conquer their third world neighbour you'd think you cucks would learn some humility, but alas that was never a ruski quality.
And the only real cope is you thinking a sh*thole like Iran can defeat Israel or USA. "bu..bu MUH DROONEEESSS!!" LMFAO! Durkas, when will they learn?
[url]https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1784992418871345378[/url]
[B]"If you combine both data streams I have showed in the previous posts then it means that Russia loses up to 45 pieces of hardware a day (destroyed and damaged) to gain 0.7 square kilometers a day.
To put things into perspective I have added this map. There are still around 10,700 square kilometers of the free Donetsk Region, which are under Ukrainian control. If we round this up to 1.0 square kilometer, which Russians take a day, then it will take them 10,700 days (29,3 Years) to only take this single Ukrainian region"[/B]
LOL at vatniks coping that it's not a stalemate and Ruzzia is """winning""", just LMFAO![/QUOTE]
It seems odd that you think Ukrane can beat Russia, but Iran cannot beat Israel or the US.
Russia has an expansive border with Ukraine and is much larger with a lot more military power.
The US is very far from Iran and Israel is tiny.
Regardless don't take my owrd for it. The proof is in the pudding. Russia has already defeated Ukraine and is just in a go slow, because it benefits them (and their allies) bleeding the Americans.
Iran just bitch slapped both the US and Israel and completely changed the orientation of the ME. From your POV nothing happened, but in the ME, central Asia, Pakistan and others; this was a monumental event. Iran is now recognised as the leading nation in the region. This has tangible results. Pakistan just refused to comply with American threats of sanctions for building the Iran-Pakistan naturla gas pipeline; Saudi have ust agreeed an economic framework with Iran.
The US is considered a spent power in the region and everyone is falling in line.
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They are dumb as phuck. European nations are being told that they need to send Ukrainian refugees back to be conscripted for a war they are supposedly winning. They are fighting to the last man with a foreign nations gold and weapons. These retards still think this is about territory, its the execution of an entire generation of Ukrainian men
Paginator is a queer who is worried that Poland is next. Thats all this ever was. Quite happy to see Ukrainians die so that he may not need to put up a fight one day.
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[QUOTE=chalup;1700511533]ive never said Ukraine will take back Crimea you retarded vatnik.[/QUOTE]
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