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user1111
07-13-2006, 12:32 PM
New Product that does this:
Strong insulin Mimicking
Anti-armotase
SERM like (binds to estrogen binding sites)
Creatine

Criteria--
--Off every product except the basics(fish oil etc.). NO test boosters, NO2 products or anti estrogen products.
--Over 6 years supplement experience

15 overall testers chosen

5 testers:
-Over 6 years supplement experience
-Creatine Super responders

5 testers
-Over 6 years supplement experience
-Creatine NON RESPONDERS

5 testers
-Over 6 years supplement experience
-Creatine RESPONDERS
-Currently off Creatine for over 4 weeks

Please apply Fast! We want to ship by friday!!!!!!

ONLY A 2 CAPSULE SERVING SIZE and basically, we anticipate that 2 cap serving will do more than all those Large powder concoction ie. NO explode and the likes. We really dislike arginie at USPlabs..

getbustered
07-13-2006, 12:51 PM
I'd like to try it. What info would you like? I'm closer to the super responder than any of the others. I'm currently on creatine and am definitely a responder, although I'm not sure what qualifies as "super." I have Activate/RR that I'm getting ready to run, but I would be interested in putting it off for a while to try this out. I'll give the basic info, let me know if I'm qualified or you need anything else.


Age: 23

Height: 5'9"

Weight: 177 as of this morning

Current/Recent Supps. - Xtend, Giant WPI, Giant CEE, Xtend, Xceed, NOW ADAM, Omega 3-6-9, ZMA

Finishing up my bottle of Xceed, love it but I'm done with NO products so I'll be switching soon. My next planned stack is going to involve Thunder and the aforementioned Activate/RR.

Supplement History - 1AD and M1T when I was way too young and had no idea what they were (big mistake that I luckily survived unscathed.) Cell-tech, Nitro-tech, M5?, Gakic, Bulk CEE, Green Bulge, many different whey proteins, and the others mentioned above. I'm sure I'm forgetting some, but that covers the basics.

Training program - Currently running an intermediate 5 x 5 program. Made it to week 8 without failing, will be resetting starting Monday (7-17-06). Got married 7-7-06 and had bad nutrition and workout habits for that week so decided to reset the program and try to make some more gains.

Training history - Played football, basketball, and baseball in high school, concentrating on basketball last two years. Didn't take lifting seriously, and did it sporadically at best. Began lifting seriously at age 20, started taking nutrition seriously at about 22. Weights took over my life shortly thereafter.

If I'm chosen as a tester I'm willing to keep a detailed log, and I will update it at least 5 days a week (M-F) and when possible on weekends. I am currently eating above maintenance calories trying to put on a few more pounds before I begin training for a triathlon (bet with wife). I want to get as big as possible so that I can maintain a maximum amount of muscle while adding more cardio than I've ever done.

Thanks for the opportunity to apply, if you need any more info from me, let me know.

kyle

NumberTwentyTwo
07-13-2006, 01:06 PM
is there a cetain age and up your looking for since its an AA???

also if u dont mind askin which creatine is used adn how much of it?

user1111
07-13-2006, 01:12 PM
is there a cetain age and up your looking for since its an AA???

also if u dont mind askin which creatine is used adn how much of it?

do you have 6 years supplement use? CEE and enouph for great results.

Karl Moen
07-13-2006, 01:16 PM
PM me I'm interested

I'd be in group 3

NumberTwentyTwo
07-13-2006, 01:16 PM
do you have 6 years supplement use? CEE and enouph for great results.
yes

but the fact that im only about to turn 20 is what im asking.....AAs and youngins arent reccommended correct?

user1111
07-13-2006, 01:20 PM
yes

but the fact that im only about to turn 20 is what im asking.....AAs and youngins arent reccommended correct?

Estrogen is needed so look at our Supplement as removing excess estrogen and enviromental estrogens.

Our goal is maintaining healthy estrogen levels and not total suppression. 20 years old is fine. If you eat Mcdonalds once a week, supplements are better.

user1111
07-13-2006, 01:21 PM
PM me I'm interested

I'd be in group 3

you want me to send you a PM:{ Man, you are playing hard to get.lol

Bloute
07-13-2006, 01:23 PM
Wow, interesting product.

Off every product except the basics(fish oil etc.). NO test boosters, NO2 products or anti estrogen products.

--> for How long ?

HalleluYAH
07-13-2006, 01:29 PM
I would need to research the formulation prior to agreeing, but I am always interested in a good CrM/CEE supplement. I have a few questions about the estrogen binding/SERM comment (pardon my ignorance). I am not a fan of androgenics and/or test boosters.

My current supplement baseline is CEE, Caffiene, Fish Oil, Sesamin, Flax Oil, Amino Acids and Whey. I have not taken regular CrM in a year.

Recent Pix:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e114/HalleluYAH/MPImmediatelyAfter.jpg

Supplement Logs
Supplement Experiment:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=706942

CE-XL/H+Blocker:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=799038

SciVation Sesamin/DS Melting Point:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=786823

AMP + HEAT Stack:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=676277

Thermal-Rage:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=528525

5-Tetra:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=751438

Supplement Reviews

JS Nitro Cell Drive:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=836920

G-Tek:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=730870

H-Blocker:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=682156

5-Tetra:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=544681

Gro-Max HG:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=538978

Neuro-Stim+C:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=528538

Protein Reviews
JS Nitro XP:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=836928

Xtreme Amino:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=825170

PrimaForce WPI:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=6402982

BSL Watermelon WPI:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=6337528&postcount=158

Myolean Evolution:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=6667976

SAN Wildberry Infusion:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=8946209&postcount=86


Supplement Science Threads Started:
Arachidonic Acid: Affect on Colon Cancer Risk:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=806085

TTA Supplementation
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=801613

pre, during & post WO AA/CHO/PRO regimen:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=754887

EAA or BCAA? A Researched Position Statement:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=739730

Beta-Alanine (Carnosine):
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=556710

Arachodonic Acid vs. EPA:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=671453

Studies on HMB:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=649652

Soy's effects on hormones:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=698242

Amino Acid Supplementation; New Study:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=710761

Timing of Amino Acid-Carbohydrate Ingestion:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=718025

Carb-Cycling Thread (38,000 hits):
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=457715

Carb Cycling 101:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=706139

Effects of ATP Supplementation:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=551439

Arginine Increases IGF-1:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=557604

Fiber 101:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=795627

user1111
07-13-2006, 02:03 PM
Wow, interesting product.

Off every product except the basics(fish oil etc.). NO test boosters, NO2 products or anti estrogen products.

--> for How long ?

14 days seem fair?

user1111
07-13-2006, 02:04 PM
I would need to research the formulation prior to agreeing, but I am always interested in a good CrM/CEE supplement. I have a few questions about the estrogen binding/SERM comment (pardon my ignorance). I am not a fan of androgenics and/or test boosters.

My current supplement baseline is CEE, Caffiene, Fish Oil, Sesamin, Flax Oil, Amino Acids and Whey. I have not taken regular CrM in a year.

Recent Pix:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e114/HalleluYAH/MPImmediatelyAfter.jpg

Supplement Logs
Supplement Experiment:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=706942

CE-XL/H+Blocker:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=799038

SciVation Sesamin/DS Melting Point:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=786823

AMP + HEAT Stack:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=676277

Thermal-Rage:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=528525

5-Tetra:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=751438

Supplement Reviews

JS Nitro Cell Drive:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=836920

G-Tek:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=730870

H-Blocker:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=682156

5-Tetra:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=544681

Gro-Max HG:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=538978

Neuro-Stim+C:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=528538

Protein Reviews
JS Nitro XP:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=836928

Xtreme Amino:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=825170

PrimaForce WPI:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=6402982

BSL Watermelon WPI:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=6337528&postcount=158

Myolean Evolution:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=6667976

SAN Wildberry Infusion:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=8946209&postcount=86


Supplement Science Threads Started:
Arachidonic Acid: Affect on Colon Cancer Risk:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=806085

TTA Supplementation
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=801613

pre, during & post WO AA/CHO/PRO regimen:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=754887

EAA or BCAA? A Researched Position Statement:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=739730

Beta-Alanine (Carnosine):
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=556710

Arachodonic Acid vs. EPA:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=671453

Studies on HMB:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=649652

Soy's effects on hormones:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=698242

Amino Acid Supplementation; New Study:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=710761

Timing of Amino Acid-Carbohydrate Ingestion:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=718025

Carb-Cycling Thread (38,000 hits):
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=457715

Carb Cycling 101:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=706139

Effects of ATP Supplementation:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=551439

Arginine Increases IGF-1:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=557604

Fiber 101:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=795627

Reps usually report new products ingredients to the owners. I rather exclude reps on this test.

nni
07-13-2006, 02:06 PM
this sounds very interesting.

HalleluYAH
07-13-2006, 02:14 PM
Reps usually report new products ingredients to the owners. I rather exclude reps on this test.
new product ingredients? I was not aware there were any "new" ingredients. suppose that's why I asked. do these "new" ingredients have research backing them? guess I will wait and complete research on any "new" ingredients once available.

best wishes. I will be watching for logs.

Kerry77
07-13-2006, 02:17 PM
New Product that does this:
Strong insulin Mimicking
Anti-armotase
SERM like (binds to estrogen binding sites)
Creatine

Criteria--
--Off every product except the basics(fish oil etc.). NO test boosters, NO2 products or anti estrogen products.
--Over 6 years supplement experience

15 overall testers chosen

5 testers:
-Over 6 years supplement experience
-Creatine Super responders

5 testers
-Over 6 years supplement experience
-Creatine NON RESPONDERS

5 testers
-Over 6 years supplement experience
-Creatine RESPONDERS
-Currently off Creatine for over 4 weeks

Please apply Fast! We want to ship by friday!!!!!!

ONLY A 2 CAPSULE SERVING SIZE and basically, we anticipate that 2 cap serving will do more than all those Large powder concoction ie. NO explode and the likes. We really dislike arginie at USPlabs..
I fit the criteria for all testers wanted. Let me know if there is still availability

Bloute
07-13-2006, 03:03 PM
14 days seem fair?

Seem fair specially for the AI, but I won't meet the criteria. Good luck to all testers.

ruthere2
07-13-2006, 04:55 PM
I'd def. be in the non-responder group. No problem being off all the supplements. Let me know - I'd love to be a tester. I've got well over 6 years supplement experience.

solarize
07-13-2006, 06:15 PM
Sounds like an AWESOME product, good **** USPLabs!

punksurfer024
07-13-2006, 06:26 PM
new product ingredients? I was not aware there were any "new" ingredients. suppose that's why I asked. do these "new" ingredients have research backing them? guess I will wait and complete research on any "new" ingredients once available.

best wishes. I will be watching for logs.

yeah i dont like guinea pigging either, ill test for promotion purposes but not new ingredients that are unknown, i too will definatly be watching these logs though!!!!

BiggJohn
07-13-2006, 07:04 PM
I am very interested to see these logs, USPlabs puts out stuff that works. Maybe you could ask Dominique to add some to her current stack?

factotum
07-13-2006, 08:29 PM
Are serms and AIs really that good for women?

Seems like a very interesting product, will any testers be getting bloodwork done?

user1111
07-14-2006, 09:14 AM
Are serms and AIs really that good for women?

Seems like a very interesting product, will any testers be getting bloodwork done?

SERMS where created for women.

user1111
07-14-2006, 09:23 AM
new product ingredients? I was not aware there were any "new" ingredients. suppose that's why I asked. do these "new" ingredients have research backing them? guess I will wait and complete research on any "new" ingredients once available.

best wishes. I will be watching for logs.

One ingredient in the formula to my knowledge is not used in any bb supplement but in a few Health supplements. This new ingredient to the bb word is also a POTENT anti-oxidant. Pound for Pound it Kills R-ALA.

One ingredient is used but like many formulas not enouph because it's expensive. You will find 1% extracts or maybe 2 but not a 4% and most use to little or TO MUCH!

One ingredient is USED in about every formula on the market...Creatine.

Used 2 caps today after morning cardio and waited about 15 minutes to drink my shake, and I my muscle are FULL and I look dry and my carb intake was only 25grams. I can not imagine what 60grams of carbs would feel like.

2 caps folks 2 caps!

UberBerzerker
07-14-2006, 12:12 PM
One ingredient is USED in about every formula on the market...Creatine.


please say you are using monohydrate.... :)

lbarber4
07-15-2006, 03:35 PM
When are you going to release the product to the general public? As in maybe what month? I'd be interested in buying it down the line, once I see what the logs produce.

rip
07-15-2006, 04:08 PM
I would consider myself a creatine NON-Responder. I am currently running a log for Anabolic Xtreme which will be ending on Tuesday. If this is a problem, disregard my application.

Age: 21

Sex: Male

Height: 5'8"

Weight: 166

Bodytype: Ecto/Meso

Training experience (as much detail as possible):

Working out on and off for the past 7-8 years. Have tried many different splits and workout programs including 2 day/3 day/4 day/and 5 day splits. I've tried various bodybuilding and powerlifting routines with various results. Most training has revolved around compound movements to help me put on size and strength because i am somewhat of an ectomorph.

I am currently using the single factor 5x5 program and would be running that through the end of the log if selected.

Current Training Schedule / Protocol (as much detail as possible):

Monday:
Squat- 5x5 Ramping weight to top set of 5 (which should equal the previous Friday's heavy triple)
Bench- 5x5 Ramping weight to top set of 5 (which should equal the previous Friday's heavy triple)
Barbell Row- 5x5 Ramping weight to top set of 5 (which should equal the previous Friday's heavy triple)
Assistance: 2 sets of weighted hypers and abs


Wednesday:
Squat- 4x5 First 3 sets are the same as Monday, the 4th set is repeating the 3rd set again
Incline Bench- 4x5 Ramping weight to top set of 5
Deadlift- 4x5 Ramping weight to top set of 5
Assistance: abs


Friday:
Squat- 4x5, 1x3, 1x8 First 4 sets are the same as Monday's, the triple is 2.5% above your Monday top set of 5, use the weight from the 3rd set for a final set of 8
Bench- 4x5, 1x3, 1x8 First 4 sets are the same as Monday's, the triple is 2.5% above your Monday top set of 5, use the weight from the 3rd set for a final set of 8
Barbell Row- 4x5, 1x3, 1x8 First 4 sets are the same as Monday's, the triple is 2.5% above your Monday top set of 5, use the weight from the 3rd set for a final set of 8
Assistance: 3 sets of weighted dips (5-8 reps), 3 sets of barbell curls and 3 sets of triceps extensions (8 reps)


Cardio Schedule/Protocol (as much detail as possible):
Very little cardio other than golf. 5-10 minutes after a workout, other than that I do a lot of walking when playing golf.

Current Supplements (exact brand/product name):
Omega Thunder
ON Whey Gold Standard
Omega Men Multi
Fish Oil
Prima Force Lean Green

Current Diet and macros (as much detail as possible):

3400-4000 calories per day depending on if I'm working out or not, playing golf, or working.

Roughly 45% Carbs
30% Protein
25% Fat

Protein comes from chicken breast, tuna, eggs and protein shakes among other things. Carb sources include oats, pasta, and mostly low GI foods, fats come from healthy fat sources such as peanut butter, almonds, and avacodos.

Current Daily water intake: 1.5 gallons

Short Term Goal: Clean bulk, attempting to gain as much lean mass as possible.

Long Term Goal: Continue to get bigger and stronger while increasing weight and maintaining or even lowering bodyfat.

ANY and ALL Prescription / Non-Prescription / Recreational drugs: None

Supplement history (as much detail as possible):

Omega Thunder
MAN Clout
ON Whey
Ergopharm GF-Pro
Scivation Xtend
Scivation Sesamin
Controlled Labs White Blood
Creatine Mono
Bulk CEE
Prima Force Lean Green
Anabolic Xtreme Retain
Citrulline Malate
Cytodyne
Ultimate Orange
Various other creatine and protein products

Other product reviews / logs you have done (with links):

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=823417

Can you post "Before" and "After" photos (yes or no): Yes

user1111
07-15-2006, 04:09 PM
Chosen! No more applicants.

Everyone that applied is chosen. Please e-mail this info:

e-mail subject- "Beta c"
e-mail body

board name
Shipping name
Address
city state Zip

e-mail orders@synergymuscle.com

punksurfer024
07-15-2006, 05:47 PM
Chosen! No more applicants.

Everyone that applied is chosen. Please e-mail this info:

e-mail subject- "Beta c"
e-mail body

board name
Shipping name
Address
city state Zip

e-mail orders@synergymuscle.com


congrats to well everyone that applied then, ill be looking foward to the logs!!!!