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Mister_A
06-11-2006, 05:17 PM
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Q. What is a herbal Hypertropic?
A. We have carefully avoided classic terms because we do not want this product confused with a prohormone. Hypertrophy can be thought of simply as an increase in lean muscle mass. This product’s ingredients are strictly herbal. Thus it is an herbal product which increases lean muscle mass.

Q. How does Hyperdrol compare with Superdrol or PheraPlex or even ErgoMaxLMGl?
A. You really shouldn’t make those comparisons. Superdrol was a synthetic hormone that, while providing terrific results, came with the added burden of a short cycle, the necessity of liver protection and the effort and cost of post cycle therapy. By comparison, Hyperdrol’s results will be no where near as dramatic as Superdrol. However, Hyperdrol does not induce shutdown, and is actually GOOD for your body, having a positive impact on libido and ligament pain while concurrently leaning you out and providing slow but steady gains. In addition, the cycle time is MUCH longer and there is no post cycle necessary (in fact, Hyperdrol would be an outstanding post cycle product).

Q. How does this compare to other “natural” test boosters?
A. There are lots of “natural test boosters” (Tribulus, ATD and ZMA) on the market but until now, none have had ANY impact on your lean body mass. That is because it takes a lot more than an increase in total testosterone to actually create a hypertrophic atmosphere in which you actually see and feel gains in lean body mass. Hyperdrol simply helps your body reset hormonal balance to where it was when you were young, vibrant and strong. From a health perspective, unlike other products, Hyperdrol promotes joint, tendon and bone health.

Q. What can one expect from this product?
A. Testers have reported an increase in libido, a reduction in joint pain, a steady but not dramatic increase in strength, a very definite leaning and hardening effect and an average of about a pound a week of weight gain. Since you are losing fat and gaining muscle, the impact on lean body mass is often very visible. Don’t forget, you can be on Hyperdrol for up to 12 weeks.

Q. How much does the product cost?
A. While more expensive than a single bottle of some prohormones, it is decidedly less expensive than the prohormone, the liver protectant, the Red Yeast Rice to keep lipids in check and the post cycle therapy.

Q. What role does Cissus play in Hyperdrol?
A. Cissus Quadrangularis (Cissus (SEA-SUS) for short) is one key to Hyperdrol. By itself, the Cissus plant does not do a lot. It does provide a base for hypertropic activity and a positive impact on joint pain but our extraction process makes this a very different Cissus than others you might have seen with the ability to raise test levels by 200%

Q. What is 6-BrAD™?
A. 6-BrAD™ is a new anti-aromatase that keeps estrogen intact while Test rises - but it also inhibits negative feedback thus inducing an increase in total testosterone and preventing natural test production from shutting down. Our objective is to create a favorable natural androgen to estrogen ratio (like you had as a teenager) which will allow for better body composition with fewer potential rebound issues. While some products (ATD based) have taken the approach of a total estrogen suppression, our view (as user experience substantiates) is that when you totally shut down estrogen you can not only make your workouts intolerable but your libido often goes in the tank.

Q. What role does the Forslean™ play?
A. Forsholli Diterpene is similar to Forskolin (Forslean™) in action but is much more bio-available to the system allowing a much smaller dose to be used with greater affect. Forsholli is the only plant-derived compound presently known to directly stimulate the enzyme adenylate cyclase, and subsequently cyclic AMP (cAMP). Our exclusive Forsholi Diterpene extract helps generate lean body mass by stimulating cAMP, which will increase the circulation of hypertrophic hormones.

Q. Lastly, you have something called Urtica dioica?
A. You probably know this by the common name Stinging Nettle. Without giving away all of our secrets, Nettle has been well researched and shown as effective in combating BPH which can arise from DHT conversion, a side effect of any raise in test levels. The goal was to create a product that properly addressed all of the potential negative side effect associated with androgens (natural produced or even synthetics like prohormones from the past) while providing healthy hormonal modulation added to the herbal hypertrophic value. All very synergistic to each other for intended long term use and prolonged results that you can keep. Think about it, a hypertrophic product that promotes health as a synergist.

Q. Does the product really raise libido?
A. You might have experienced the rush of libido with some prohormones, only to feel the crash when your system shuts down. The best way to think of this is the positive feeling you get with a prohormone with NONE of the negative effects.

Q. So there is NO shut down at all? If that is the case, why do you have to cycle off the product?
A. No, not at all. Through the magic of 6-BrAD™, we have managed to totally control the negative feedback loop such that there is NO HPTA shutdown. The cycle time is not absolute but more like NO2 or Creatine. It is good to simply go off the product every few months so you’re your body does not get used to the effects. As a rule, if you are still feeling the positive effects, you don’t need to go off.



http://www.hyperdrol.com should be up soon.


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Coulaid
06-11-2006, 05:25 PM
Looks good Scheizekopf!

Rushi
06-11-2006, 05:26 PM
scheizekopf, what quality control measures does anabolic xtreme have in place to ensure the purity of their ingredients?

HBY18202
06-11-2006, 05:28 PM
Looks great, I personally can't wait.

Mister_A
06-11-2006, 05:38 PM
scheizekopf, what quality control measures does anabolic xtreme have in place to ensure the purity of their ingredients?
AX products are always tested by the licensed company, **** or Designer Supplements to verify the quality.

TimoteoS
06-11-2006, 05:40 PM
I may be wrong but you completely left the part about the price of this out...

Mister_A
06-11-2006, 05:56 PM
I may be wrong but you completely left the part about the price of this out...
Depending on Retailer pricing it should be in the range of $40-50 per bottle.

Regular_Ryan
06-11-2006, 06:12 PM
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Blast_
06-11-2006, 06:26 PM
Nice job boys. Couple of questions:

For the record you guys did say that it is safe for 18+, right?

Aside from running it solo, are there any other supplements that can stack with Hyperdrol for a synergistic effect?

Optimal cycle length: 8 weeks?

Any other supplements to avoid while taking Hyperdrol?

Regular_Ryan
06-11-2006, 06:47 PM
Nice job boys. Couple of questions:

For the record you guys did say that it is safe for 18+, right?

Aside from running it solo, are there any other supplements that can stack with Hyperdrol for a synergistic effect?

Optimal cycle length: 8 weeks?

Any other supplements to avoid while taking Hyperdrol?
AGE
The age is a question that some may agree or disagree with. We say 18+. It does contain an AI. Take 6-oxo which is an all time favorite AI of mine. ErgoPharm knows what they are doing and they recommend 18+.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ergo/6oxo.html

Cycle Length
I would say a great cycle length will be 8 weeks. That is what I am currently running.

Stacking
Stacking with Retain is a great stack. In fact this will be a box set soon with a free bottle of XXXXXX.

XXXXXXX = New unreleased product.

Blast_
06-11-2006, 06:53 PM
AGE
The age is a question that some may agree or disagree with. We say 18+. It does contain an AI. Take 6-oxo which is an all time favorite AI of mine. ErgoPharm knows what they are doing and they recommend 18+.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ergo/6oxo.html

Cycle Length
I would say a great cycle length will be 8 weeks. That is what I am currently running.

Stacking
Stacking with Retain is a great stack. In fact this will be a box set soon with a free bottle of XXXXXX.

XXXXXXX = New unreleased product.

Thanks for the quick response.

uhockey
06-11-2006, 06:54 PM
6-BrAD - In another product.
$30

Cissus RX
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/usp/cis.html
$27

ActivaTE
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/design/act.html
$43

Bulk Forslean 90 Servings -
$20

TOTAL= $120+

So you're saying that your product contains the exact amounts of each individual ingredient that taking the recommended doses of each of these products for one month would achieve?

What other product contains 6-BrAD?

italionstallion
06-11-2006, 06:58 PM
So there it is. We took our own innovative spin on several popular products that work and made them even more effective! At the same time we were the first to introduce 6-BrADô which will set the new standard in AI's.

I'm just curious as to how much AX has to do with product formulation. I thought **** formulated this and AX has licensed it?

rush_n
06-11-2006, 07:03 PM
Nice FAQ!

Any idea on approx how long before the box sets with the new product come along?

JLT
06-11-2006, 07:09 PM
Anyone have any idea when this is going to hit bb.com store? I would like to backorder some but its not on there site. Also is there a recomended diet change when on a cycle? I know usually you have to increase you caloric intake but was wondering.

Regular_Ryan
06-11-2006, 07:23 PM
So you're saying that your product contains the exact amounts of each individual ingredient that taking the recommended doses of each of these products for one month would achieve?

What other product contains 6-BrAD?I am saying with the innovative unique and improved extracts the user can expect the same results if they were to stack the above products. Yes.

Regular_Ryan
06-11-2006, 07:24 PM
I'm just curious as to how much AX has to do with product formulation. I thought **** formulated this and AX has licensed it?
AX formulates nothing, ever. We do release killer products though.

Regular_Ryan
06-11-2006, 07:25 PM
Anyone have any idea when this is going to hit bb.com store?
Any day.

Madevilz
06-11-2006, 07:52 PM
AX formulates nothing, ever. We do release killer products though.

I thought you guys formulated Stim-X?

OneBetter
06-11-2006, 07:58 PM
so are you working with AX again Ryan?

Regular_Ryan
06-11-2006, 07:59 PM
I thought you guys formulated Stim-X?Nope, that is top secret.

AX is a brand. A great one. I think of it as a collaborative. The best of the best from the best. And there may be some news rather soon that will be quite shocking at the same time exciting. I wish I could open my mouth. It will mean even greater things to come for AX and you the consumer.

Regular_Ryan
06-11-2006, 08:00 PM
so are you working with AX again Ryan?
Have been for a while, part time. You can catch me there Wed-Fri.

USN1981
06-11-2006, 08:01 PM
Did any of the testers report water weight gain?

Cdem
06-11-2006, 08:18 PM
great, i can't wait to try this stuff out.

OneBetter
06-11-2006, 08:26 PM
Have been for a while, part time. You can catch me there Wed-Fri.

thanks, i was just curious.

goali2
06-11-2006, 08:40 PM
Hey, any chance this can be stacked with something like creatine ester ?

JLT
06-11-2006, 08:41 PM
Hey, any chance this can be stack with something like creatine ester ?
I don't think there would be a problem with that after reading about it.

OneBetter
06-11-2006, 08:41 PM
yes.

sundevil04
06-11-2006, 08:51 PM
"Hyperdrol simply helps your body reset hormonal balance to where it was when you were young, vibrant and strong."

does this mean that if you are young and still have healthy hormone levels naturally that you will see minimal results?

andres9606t
06-11-2006, 09:07 PM
Any word on the long term safety of Hyperdrol?

Mister_A
06-11-2006, 09:16 PM
"Hyperdrol simply helps your body reset hormonal balance to where it was when you were young, vibrant and strong."

does this mean that if you are young and still have healthy hormone levels naturally that you will see minimal results?
Unlikely. You'll still benefit just as well as older men.

Mister_A
06-11-2006, 09:17 PM
Hey, any chance this can be stack with something like creatine ester ?
Perfectly fine. Most stay on CEE year round.

cliffharski
06-11-2006, 10:32 PM
I am not trying to start any negativity here. This seems like a combo of USP Labs symmetry (extracted cissus magic) + USP's cAMPhibolic (forslean) + test raiser in a handy little combo. I'll try it out.....just got some rebound reloaded in, any off the wall chance I shouldn't take them together?

Regular_Ryan
06-11-2006, 10:36 PM
I would not take them together. Both contain 6-Bormo or (6-BrAD). So both would be overkill. Take the reloaded, take a break, then try Hyperdrol.

To your other comment, every portion of this product has never been released before. All are improved extracts + the innovative new 6-BrAD. It combines many favorites into one. Remeber this does not have Forslean but a new stronger version called Forsholli. We released Forslean long ago in our Rampage product. Way before USP I believe. Forslean is very good..........Forsholli is GREAT!

Mister_A
06-12-2006, 06:41 AM
I am not trying to start any negativity here. This seems like a combo of USP Labs symmetry (extracted cissus magic) + USP's cAMPhibolic (forslean) + test raiser in a handy little combo. I'll try it out.....just got some rebound reloaded in, any off the wall chance I shouldn't take them together?
Hyperdrol is different than all those products combined and MUCH CHEAPER ;)

Wilson52
06-12-2006, 10:45 AM
How long after Halodrol PCT can I start a Hyperdrol cycle??? I don't know if would be ok since it has AI in it.

jerry.
06-12-2006, 10:53 AM
Would Hyperdrol pass through customs to Canada? I would like to order some but not unless it was 100% sure to pass through. Thanks in advance.

KD1
06-12-2006, 11:01 AM
Looks nice. I have some Reloaded, Cissus and Activate, when I run out, ( and take a month off ) I will try running the AX "all in one" version.

Mister_A
06-12-2006, 05:35 PM
How long after Halodrol PCT can I start a Hyperdrol cycle??? I don't know if would be ok since it has AI in it.
You could start it towards the end of PCT or after PCT.

Bloute
06-12-2006, 05:47 PM
Would Hyperdrol pass through customs to Canada? I would like to order some but not unless it was 100% sure to pass through. Thanks in advance.

I will keep you update if I receive my free bottle form loterry.

cliffharski
06-12-2006, 05:57 PM
I would not take them together. Both contain 6-Bormo or (6-BrAD). So both would be overkill. Take the reloaded, take a break, then try Hyperdrol.

To your other comment, every portion of this product has never been released before. All are improved extracts + the innovative new 6-BrAD. It combines many favorites into one. Remeber this does not have Forslean but a new stronger version called Forsholli. We released Forslean long ago in our Rampage product. Way before USP I believe. Forslean is very good..........Forsholli is GREAT!


good to know-will do just that, since I have cAMP and cissus right now to go with it, I will do my best to note my state of being while taking this current stack-then go into the hyperdrol. I'll actually start my log right after this, and try to do my best to be updating with a nutty schedule.

Mister_A
06-12-2006, 06:04 PM
good to know-will do just that, since I have cAMP and cissus right now to go with it, I will do my best to note my state of being while taking this current stack-then go into the hyperdrol. I'll actually start my log right after this, and try to do my best to be updating with a nutty schedule.
Feedback is much appreciated.

thevoice
06-13-2006, 07:40 AM
hyperdrol and Retain.....sounds very intresting, looking forward to the box set, any news on when its due out? also are there plans to release some hyperdrol bloodwork and if so when?

Many thanks

391rippy
06-13-2006, 07:42 AM
question: on most hormonal products (such as ATD, AAS) there is a general rule of thumb that you take a break from all hormonal products for an equal amount of time that you spend on cycle. does this apply with hyperdrol? or could you finish hyperdrol and immediately hop on a cycle?

Mister_A
06-13-2006, 07:51 AM
hyperdrol and Retain.....sounds very intresting, looking forward to the box set, any news on when its due out? also are there plans to release some hyperdrol bloodwork and if so when?

Many thanks
No new info yet. I'll let you know when I hear about it.

Mister_A
06-13-2006, 07:53 AM
question: on most hormonal products (such as ATD, AAS) there is a general rule of thumb that you take a break from all hormonal products for an equal amount of time that you spend on cycle. does this apply with hyperdrol? or could you finish hyperdrol and immediately hop on a cycle?
That's always a great rule to follow.

P01Shooter
06-13-2006, 08:28 AM
Do you have any results from any testers?

How long does a bottle last?

6-Brad? What is this and how is it different or better than 6-oxo or atd?

Wilson52
06-13-2006, 08:32 AM
That is what I was wondering is if after a 4/5 week cycle and a 4/5 week PCT, could I go into Hyperdrol (8 weeks) or should I wait longer after my 4/5 week PCT since Hyperdrol will have hormonol affect?

bobburn
06-13-2006, 08:49 AM
I would wait a minimum 4-6 weeks before starting hyperdrol and the same goes to starting anything after it.

andres9606t
06-13-2006, 09:13 AM
Any word on the long term safety of Hyperdrol?

Reply please!

Big_Spaz
06-13-2006, 09:41 AM
Product looks very good guys, I'll probably pick some up in a month or two.

Right now I'm running a 8 week Ergopharm 6-oxo + Designer Supplement's ActivaTe (only 4 weeks of activaTe). I'll take two weeks off, then run an 8 week Hyperdrol cycle. I'm excited!




-Spaz

AtomicLee
06-13-2006, 09:48 AM
Product looks very good guys, I'll probably pick some up in a month or two.

Right now I'm running a 8 week Ergopharm 6-oxo + Designer Supplement's ActivaTe (only 4 weeks of activaTe). I'll take two weeks off, then run an 8 week Hyperdrol cycle. I'm excited!




-Spaz

Good to hear Big Spaz. Sorry we couldn't get it to you earlier. I start my 12 weeker today!

goali2
06-13-2006, 11:29 AM
Does Hyperdrol promote acne, beacause i just started 2 days ago ona drug to cure my acne, i ll be taking this for 2 weeks and then if i get my hands onto some hyperdrol, then i plan to start taking it. But my main concern is that will it promote acne?

Bloute
06-13-2006, 11:30 AM
I just received my Hyperdrol.

First thank you AX.

For those asking about hyperdrol in Canada, there was no problem at customs. They didn't open it but it was marked as a gift.

Regular_Ryan
06-13-2006, 11:50 AM
Does Hyperdrol promote acne, beacause i just started 2 days ago ona drug to cure my acne, i ll be taking this for 2 weeks and then if i get my hands onto some hyperdrol, then i plan to start taking it. But my main concern is that will it promote acne?
It could, anything that affects your hormone levels has that potential.

Joel
06-13-2006, 11:59 AM
I am saying with the innovative unique and improved extracts the user can expect the same results if they were to stack the above products. Yes.


Sounds interesting !!!!!!!!!!!

Yogurt
06-13-2006, 12:17 PM
Can I stack 6-oxo with Hyperdrol?

Regular_Ryan
06-13-2006, 12:24 PM
Can I stack 6-oxo with Hyperdrol?
That would be overkill. Two AI's.

heavyduty
06-13-2006, 12:41 PM
Would stacking hyperdrol with lean extreme and activate be overkill?

Regular_Ryan
06-13-2006, 12:45 PM
Would stacking hyperdrol with lean extreme and activate be overkill?
HD + LX may be a good stack. I do not know enough about LX to answer that. Maybe a DS rep can.

You could take it with ActivaTE but remember HD includes an extract of that active in its formula. So I do not know if it would be overkill.

Urtica Dioica Lignan Complex Using a proprietary extraction process, we have taken the common Stinging Nettle Herb to a new level to synergistically increase testosterone levels while concurrently combating BPH which can arise from DHT conversion, a side effect of any raise in test levels.

mhadder
06-13-2006, 12:48 PM
When would be the best time to start Hyperdrol during PCT?? when you start pct or when you finish

aoba
06-13-2006, 12:50 PM
Ryan,

I see that rebound reloaded says age 21 due to the AI 6-brad, which is similar to the one in hyperdrol. Is it ok for those of the age of 18 to take hyperdrol?

qw3r
06-13-2006, 01:18 PM
HD + LX may be a good stack. I do not know enough about LX to answer that. Maybe a DS rep can.

You could take it with ActivaTE but remember HD includes an extract of that active in its formula. So I do not know if it would be overkill.

Urtica Dioica Lignan Complex Using a proprietary extraction process, we have taken the common Stinging Nettle Herb to a new level to synergistically increase testosterone levels while concurrently combating BPH which can arise from DHT conversion, a side effect of any raise in test levels.

hyperdrol already sounds so much like a combination of rebound + activate, when combined with retain (practically LX) wouldnt this essentially be the nha stack for less? seems like the key ingredients and functions are all here...

also, i would love to hear an eta on the box set. the month would be great, but if you could at least tell us if it would be available during this summer it would help alot with planning out following cycles.

Regular_Ryan
06-13-2006, 01:26 PM
hyperdrol already sounds so much like a combination of rebound + activate, when combined with retain (practically LX) wouldnt this essentially be the nha stack for less? seems like the key ingredients and functions are all here...
You did not hear it from me :)

Regular_Ryan
06-13-2006, 01:29 PM
also, i would love to hear an eta on the box set. the month would be great, but if you could at least tell us if it would be available during this summer it would help alot with planning out following cycles.Not sure about the box set. Hopefully it is soon.

I believe Hyperdrol + Retain will be the stack of the year.

Mister_A
06-13-2006, 03:03 PM
Ryan,

I see that rebound reloaded says age 21 due to the AI 6-brad, which is similar to the one in hyperdrol. Is it ok for those of the age of 18 to take hyperdrol?
Hyperdrol is recommended for 18+.

Mister_A
06-13-2006, 03:04 PM
When would be the best time to start Hyperdrol during PCT?? when you start pct or when you finish
Depends what you have in the PCT.

Mister_A
06-13-2006, 03:05 PM
Can I stack 6-oxo with Hyperdrol?
I'd recommend against it.

uhockey
06-13-2006, 05:18 PM
hyperdrol already sounds so much like a combination of rebound + activate, when combined with retain (practically LX) wouldnt this essentially be the nha stack for less? seems like the key ingredients and functions are all here...


You didn't hear it at all. It's all about dosing, my friend.

Twin Peak
06-13-2006, 05:28 PM
Ryan, if you are going to compare products, why don't you tell us exactly how much DIVANIL is in Hyperdrol?

Likewise, you should explain the EXACT compound that you are calling 6 BRAD, and also the dosage.

Once you do that, then we can compare products. Thanks.

Joel
06-13-2006, 05:37 PM
Ryan, if you are going to compare products, why don't you tell us exactly how much DIVANIL is in Hyperdrol?

Likewise, you should explain the EXACT compound that you are calling 6 BRAD, and also the dosage.

Once you do that, then we can compare products. Thanks.


Looks like the magic mushrooms have some competetion

Regular_Ryan
06-13-2006, 05:50 PM
Ryan, if you are going to compare products, why don't you tell us exactly how much DIVANIL is in Hyperdrol?

Likewise, you should explain the EXACT compound that you are calling 6 BRAD, and also the dosage.

Once you do that, then we can compare products. Thanks. I was told yesterday this is all I can say and not to compare HD to anything DS has from now on. So I will not anymore.

HyperdrolTM is a lean mass building Herbal Hypertrophic compound from Anabolic Xtreme, the designers of the world’s most effective muscle building formulations. HyperdrolTM has been exclusively created and formulated for Anabolic Xtreme by Author L. Rea. HyperdrolTM contains a matrix of four herbal ingredients, each of which uses a proprietary extraction process to obtain a precise matrix of unique compounds. These work synergistically together like nothing else on the market. There is no shutdown with HyperdrolTM and users can cycle for 12 to 16 weeks. Independent product testers have reported gains of about one pound of lean body mass (not weight) per week.

Ingredients

Cissus Quadrangularis Cissus (SEA-SUS) is one key to HyperdrolTM. Do not confuse the Cissus in HyperdrolTM with that of other products on the market. AX has learned how to balance the extraction process to highlight the positive effect of the right metabolites.

6-Bromodione 6-BrAD™ is a new anti-aromatase that keeps estrogen intact while testosterone rises - but it also inhibits negative feedback thus inducing an increase in total testosterone and preventing natural test production from shutting down. With 6-BrAD, we have created a favorable natural androgen to estrogen ratio (like you had as a teenager) which will allow for better body composition with fewer potential rebound issues.

Forsholii Diterpene Complex Similar to Forskolin (Forslean™) in action but much more bio-available to the body allowing a significantly smaller dose to be used with greater affect. Our exclusive Forsholi Diterpene extract helps generate lean body mass by stimulating cAMP, which increases the circulation of hypertrophic hormones to create lean hard gains!!!

Urtica Dioica Lignan Complex Using a proprietary extraction process, we have taken the common Stinging Nettle Herb to a new level to synergistically increase testosterone levels while concurrently combating BPH which can arise from DHT conversion, a side effect of any raise in test levels.

Dosage Take one capsule three times a day with food. Experienced body builders can double the dosage for a moderately increased hypertrophic effect.

Twin Peak
06-13-2006, 06:11 PM
From that, it does not appear that this product has the same ingredients as either ActivaTe or Rebound Reloaded. That is not saying it is not effective in its own right, I have yet to try it. But is is different, at least from what you just posted.

So I think not comparing them is probably good advice.

bobburn
06-13-2006, 06:16 PM
From that, it does not appear that this product has the same ingredients as either ActivaTe or Rebound Reloaded. That is not saying it is not effective in its own right, I have yet to try it. But is is different, at least from what you just posted.

So I think not comparing them is probably good advice.


Well, you're going to get people comparing them. They have a similar AI and a similar extract from the nettle root. You're going to get people comparing the two in the coming weeks and months because..well..these are the new kids on the block. The reformulation of Rebound and the release of HD have coincided and everybody and their brother looking for something non-AAS will try one of these. So, you'll be seeing comparisons from consumers.

Bloute
06-13-2006, 06:16 PM
When would be the best time to start Hyperdrol during PCT?? when you start pct or when you finish

Personally, I would start Hyperdrol on the 3rd week of your PCT if you are using a SERM.

MCWTRAINER
06-13-2006, 06:16 PM
When can we even get Hyperdrol? I really want to try it and see what it can do for me...

Bloute
06-13-2006, 06:17 PM
When can we even get Hyperdrol? I really want to try it and see what it can do for me...

You had to win the lottery Matt. No hyperdrol for you ;).

TravisLehr
06-13-2006, 06:19 PM
3 questions. Ive had wonderful experience with your products in the past and am very interested in HD.

1. I saw HD available on another site. Is it actually available, as in has there been enough time from when u shipped to suppliers for it to be in stock and ready to sell, or do you beleive this to be a pre-order kind of thing?

2. How would this stack with Anagen? It also seems like another great product for hardening up and leaning out. Is it best to run these seperately or could they be stacked?

3. Is HD best used on a bulking, maintenance, or cutting diet? What results have come from each type of diet while using HD?

Regular_Ryan
06-13-2006, 06:19 PM
From that, it does not appear that this product has the same ingredients as either ActivaTe or Rebound Reloaded. That is not saying it is not effective in its own right, I have yet to try it. But is is different, at least from what you just posted.

So I think not comparing them is probably good advice.So Reloaded does not contain 6-bromoandrostenedione and ActivaTE does not contain a Urtica Dioica Lignan?

Just wondering for myself. It was you that first came out and said that the 6-BrAD was thought to be the same as Reloaded. That is where that rumor started. Like I said I will not compare them anymore out of respect for my employer.

bobburn
06-13-2006, 06:19 PM
google it. There are about 20 different places to buy it.

MCWTRAINER
06-13-2006, 06:21 PM
You had to win the lottery Matt. No hyperdrol for you ;).
Damnit, I always miss out on everything! :(

Joel
06-13-2006, 06:25 PM
6-BrAD - In another product.
$30

Cissus RX
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/usp/cis.html
$27

ActivaTE
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/design/act.html
$43

Bulk Forslean 90 Servings -
$20

TOTAL= $120+

So you're saying that your product contains the exact amounts of each individual ingredient that taking the recommended doses of each of these products for one month would achieve?

What other product contains 6-BrAD?




That's cool. Consumers can think whatever they like. Someone who works for the company, should have better knowledge of the facts, and should know when things do not compare.




So I think not comparing them is probably good advice.


DS may want to keep the LAW in mind before one of you ends up crossing the line :





In FAQ and Review threads about products, please keep the discussion on topic. DO NOT go in there and bash the product/company/etc. Now, this rule applies for all companies (Muscletech, Scivation, AvantLabs, basically I'm saying I don't care who it is). If you break the rule, NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE, you will receive a minimum of a seven day ban from here on out.

Mister_A
06-13-2006, 06:48 PM
3 questions. Ive had wonderful experience with your products in the past and am very interested in HD.

1. I saw HD available on another site. Is it actually available, as in has there been enough time from when u shipped to suppliers for it to be in stock and ready to sell, or do you beleive this to be a pre-order kind of thing?

2. How would this stack with Anagen? It also seems like another great product for hardening up and leaning out. Is it best to run these seperately or could they be stacked?

3. Is HD best used on a bulking, maintenance, or cutting diet? What results have come from each type of diet while using HD?
1. Yes retailers now have the product.

2. Normal dosing for both.

3. Should bring results on any of those.

Twin Peak
06-13-2006, 06:51 PM
Well, you're going to get people comparing them. They have a similar AI and a similar extract from the nettle root. You're going to get people comparing the two in the coming weeks and months because..well..these are the new kids on the block. The reformulation of Rebound and the release of HD have coincided and everybody and their brother looking for something non-AAS will try one of these. So, you'll be seeing comparisons from consumers.

That's cool. Consumers can think whatever they like. Someone who works for the company, should have better knowledge of the facts, and should know when things do not compare.

Bloute
06-13-2006, 06:53 PM
DS may want to keep the LAW in mind before one of you ends up crossing the line :

Joel you should be a MOD.

Joel
06-13-2006, 06:56 PM
Joel you should be a MOD.

Yes I should be

Bloute
06-13-2006, 06:58 PM
Yes I should be

Ask your best friend Jkeith about it. I am sure he will be more than happy to submit your name to Ryan. :D

Twin Peak
06-13-2006, 07:01 PM
So Reloaded does not contain 6-bromoandrostenedione and ActivaTE does not contain a Urtica Dioica Lignan?

Just wondering for myself. It was you that first came out and said that the 6-BrAD was thought to be the same as Reloaded. That is where that rumor started. Like I said I will not compare them anymore out of respect for my employer.

Ryan, you must have reading comprehension issues. I never said that it "was thought to be the same". To the contrary, I said that based on the limited information publicly available, it appeared that they may be related. I also said that there were many types and isomers, and it was near impossible to tell. Wait, rather than paraphrase, here you go:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=9443549&postcount=7

Now, as to what is in Reloaded?

http://www.designersupps.com/static_site/label_reloaded.php

And are you forgetting that dosage in fact matters?

As to Activate, are you serious with this question? "So...ActivaTE does not contain a Urtica Dioica Lignan?"

Or are you completely ignorant and unaware that there are hundreds of extracts in stinging nettle, and that Activate is standardized for Divanil(tm)? At a specific and published dosage. Or is it youe professional opinion that if I pick up a $6 bottle of stinging nettle, that I am good to go?

Joel
06-13-2006, 07:02 PM
Ask your best friend Jkeith about it. I am sure he will be more than happy to submit your name to Ryan. :D

Well I have been offered several Paid Rep/Consultant positions and because of my big mouth you cant be a Rep and Mod, so I have to make up my mind what to do :(

Twin Peak
06-13-2006, 07:03 PM
DS may want to keep the LAW in mind before one of you ends up crossing the line :

Bah. Our products were brought up in this thread by a company employee.

Twin Peak
06-13-2006, 07:04 PM
Well I have been offered several Paid Rep/Consultant positions and because of my big mouth you cant be a Rep and Mod, so I have to make up my mind what to do :(

Seriously?

Damn, I didn't realize we had competition, I thought it was a lock.

Regular_Ryan
06-13-2006, 07:13 PM
Ryan, you must have reading comprehension issues. I never said that it "was thought to be the same". To the contrary, I said that based on the limited information publicly available, it appeared that they may be related. I also said that there were many types and isomers, and it was near impossible to tell. Wait, rather than paraphrase, here you go:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=9443549&postcount=7

Now, as to what is in Reloaded?

http://www.designersupps.com/static_site/label_reloaded.php

And are you forgetting that dosage in fact matters?

As to Activate, are you serious with this question? "So...ActivaTE does not contain a Urtica Dioica Lignan?"

Or are you completely ignorant and unaware that there are hundreds of extracts in stinging nettle, and that Activate is standardized for Divanil(tm)? At a specific and published dosage. Or is it youe professional opinion that if I pick up a $6 bottle of stinging nettle, that I am good to go?

I am not a chemist. Not even close so I dont know. But since you cannot see why I would even think about comparing them I will make sure someone does for you.

I AM SAYING, HD will offer the same results as Reloaded + ActivaTE. Are they different products? Yes. Are our extracts improved? I believe so. Did **** get the right isomer? I am thinking yes.

That is what I am saying. For a much lower price. Watch out for Hyperdrol.com It will answer things much better.

Twin Peak
06-13-2006, 07:17 PM
I AM SAYING, HD will offer the same results as Reloaded + ActivaTE. Are they different products? Yes.

I have said all along this may very well be true.

The rest, well, you are on your own.

bidwal_j
06-13-2006, 07:27 PM
ordered a bottle of this......quick question though, how does this compare to disel test 2010? im taking that currently, and might swtich to this and go back to the disel once im done with the hyperdrol

Mister_A
06-13-2006, 07:31 PM
ordered a bottle of this......quick question though, how does this compare to disel test 2010? im taking that currently, and might swtich to this and go back to the disel once im done with the hyperdrol
Try it. Then you'll know. ;)

Carmen0857
06-13-2006, 07:34 PM
This product’s ingredients are strictly herbal. Thus it is an herbal product which increases lean muscle mass.

What herb does 6-BrAD come from?

bidwal_j
06-13-2006, 07:35 PM
ill find out starting monday!


Try it. Then you'll know. ;)

AuburnTiger
06-13-2006, 08:00 PM
How long should I wait after taking Hyperdrol to start Superdrol?

Mister_A
06-13-2006, 08:07 PM
How long should I wait after taking Hyperdrol to start Superdrol?
I'd say the same amount of time you spent using Hyperdrol to have the time off.

Mister_A
06-13-2006, 08:09 PM
What herb does 6-BrAD come from?
6-Bromodione 6-BrAD™ is a new anti-aromatase that keeps estrogen intact while testosterone rises - but it also inhibits negative feedback thus inducing an increase in total testosterone and preventing natural test production from shutting down. With 6-BrAD, we have created a favorable natural androgen to estrogen ratio (like you had as a teenager) which will allow for better body composition with fewer potential rebound issues.

Carmen0857
06-13-2006, 08:18 PM
6-Bromodione 6-BrADô is a new anti-aromatase that keeps estrogen intact while testosterone rises - but it also inhibits negative feedback thus inducing an increase in total testosterone and preventing natural test production from shutting down. With 6-BrAD, we have created a favorable natural androgen to estrogen ratio (like you had as a teenager) which will allow for better body composition with fewer potential rebound issues.

That doesn't answer the question...

Carmen0857
06-14-2006, 09:36 AM
Bump for my ?

Regular_Ryan
06-14-2006, 09:44 AM
Bump for my ?
That is all of the info I have. I don't think it's going to be answered at this time. It can be found in the food supply though, somewhere. Just like ATD or 6-oxo.

Mr. Aries
06-14-2006, 09:48 AM
alright, everyone stfu and DS, send me activate and reloaded... that'll settle this :D

bobburn
06-14-2006, 09:54 AM
yes..i'm sure that will settle it..but let's just be sure and send the two to me as well.

AtomicLee
06-14-2006, 09:54 AM
Well Im only on day 2 so i will keep you all posted. And DS's products were not brought up by Ryan first.

Mr. Aries
06-14-2006, 10:03 AM
yes..i'm sure that will settle it..but let's just be sure and send the two to me as well.


agreed.. just to be safe! :D

martymcfly
06-14-2006, 10:20 AM
this stuff looks great. can't wait to get it to try it out. thanks for the faq!

mhadder
06-14-2006, 10:58 AM
Depends what you have in the PCT.
nolva for 3 weeks.

UNDERtheRADAR
06-14-2006, 11:41 AM
I have never tried any PH's or even NHA's.. Nothing that alters your hormones in ANY way.. I was looking at starting XFactor, but this product sparks my interest more..

SO MY QUESTION IS, IF I PURCHASE IT, IS THERE ANY OTHER PRODUCTS I'LL NEED TO TAKE ALONGSIDE IT (BESIDES STAPLES)..? And should there be any sort of loading/tapering phase for me?

Thanks AX.

Regular_Ryan
06-14-2006, 11:47 AM
SO MY QUESTION IS, IF I PURCHASE IT, IS THERE ANY OTHER PRODUCTS I'LL NEED TO TAKE ALONGSIDE IT (BESIDES STAPLES)..? And should there be any sort of loading/tapering phase for me?

Thanks AX.
No it is all in one. Hyperdrol is all that you need, no support supps or anything after. That is the main reason it will be such a great product.

You can stack it with Retain for a great stack.

UNDERtheRADAR
06-14-2006, 11:54 AM
No it is all in one. Hyperdrol is all that you need, no support supps or anything after. That is the main reason it will be such a great product.

You can stack it with Retain for a great stack.

Wow thanks for such a quick reply!

Couple more questions since now I am pretty sure I will be purchasing HD..

I am on a cut currently, should I save the HD for a bulk? Also, another thing with me is stimulants, I can never sleep while on them.. Would I have any trouble sleeping while on HD?

Thanks again AX!

AtomicLee
06-14-2006, 12:07 PM
Wow thanks for such a quick reply!

Couple more questions since now I am pretty sure I will be purchasing HD..

I am on a cut currently, should I save the HD for a bulk? Also, another thing with me is stimulants, I can never sleep while on them.. Would I have any trouble sleeping while on HD?

Thanks again AX!

There are no stims in it so sleeping should not be a problem. it will work great for a bulk or cut. I would try it both ways.

Quelly
06-14-2006, 12:08 PM
Hyperdrol, Retain, X Factor? Best stack possible without going illegal or no? What do you guys think?

adoniscomplex
06-14-2006, 12:29 PM
Well I have been offered several Paid Rep/Consultant positions and because of my big mouth you cant be a Rep and Mod, so I have to make up my mind what to do :(
uhmm well take the mod postion and i will take one of the rep postions

Regular_Ryan
06-14-2006, 12:43 PM
Hyperdrol, Retain, X Factor? Best stack possible without going illegal or no? What do you guys think?
I don't really know much about X-Factor but I think that looks like one hell of a good stack.

In fact if there is a rep for X-factor I would love to chat with them sometime. I see this being a stack that will be brought up quite often. We should talk and figure out the best protocol. HD +XF + Retain

uhockey
06-14-2006, 02:51 PM
I am not a chemist. Not even close so I dont know.

I AM SAYING, HD will offer the same results as Reloaded + ActivaTE. Are they different products? Yes. Are our extracts improved? I believe so. Did **** get the right isomer? I am thinking yes.


I'm not a vet, but I'm pretty sure dogs and cats are both animals.....

jerry.
06-14-2006, 02:55 PM
I will keep you update if I receive my free bottle form loterry.

Thanks Bloute. I'll keep my fingers crossed.

Mister_A
06-14-2006, 05:33 PM
Hyperdrol, Retain, X Factor? Best stack possible without going illegal or no? What do you guys think?
I would say try each of them solo before stacking them together.

Mister_A
06-14-2006, 05:34 PM
Bump for my ?
AX cannot disclose any more info than that.

Quelly
06-14-2006, 06:00 PM
how much of each ingredient is in this formula?

bobburn
06-14-2006, 06:03 PM
lol, sorry dude. They're not going to release that information, it's a trade secret.

qw3r
06-14-2006, 06:13 PM
lol, sorry dude. They're not going to release that information, it's a trade secret.

honestly, what part of proprietary do people not understand...

jsweetness
06-14-2006, 06:44 PM
Hyperdrol, Retain, X Factor? Best stack possible without going illegal or no? What do you guys think?

ive read somewhere on these hyperdrol threads that stacking x-factor and hyperdrol would counteract each other. somethin about the cissus would negatively affect the AA in x-factor.....just somethin i heard. we need some comments about it from MN reps, be expensive but damn good if they could all be stacked together.

Carmen0857
06-14-2006, 07:15 PM
Just an observation, Hyperdrol seems very similar to **** Jungle Warfare, I know Hyperdrol has just been released, but can anyone make an argument for one over the other?

heavyduty
06-14-2006, 07:24 PM
Just an observation, Hyperdrol seems very similar to **** Jungle Warfare, I know Hyperdrol has just been released, but can anyone make an argument for one over the other?
well, if im not mistaken AX is liscensed by ****, it say it one some AX supps.

bobburn
06-14-2006, 07:37 PM
Yes, it's liscensed by ****. It has a different AI and a differing amount of active ingredients. You will see similar gains in both, so no you can't make a case for either one..but as logs come in for HD we'll get a clearer picture on whether or not one is superior to the other.

AtomicLee
06-14-2006, 08:21 PM
Yes, it's liscensed by ****. It has a different AI and a differing amount of active ingredients. You will see similar gains in both, so no you can't make a case for either one..but as logs come in for HD we'll get a clearer picture on whether or not one is superior to the other.

perfect answer :)

bobburn
06-14-2006, 10:16 PM
Lately I've been sounding like a friggin AX rep with my answers to questions on HD and retain lol (not that that's a bad thing ;)).

MindOverMuscle
06-15-2006, 01:05 AM
Good thread, and I'm thinking of picking up a bottle. I am looking at Bone Boost for some joint support, too. Would the 1000mg Cissus Quadrangularis in Bone Boost be Cissus overkill if taken with Hyperdrol? It's a different extract, so I think it would be OK...just want to check and be sure.

Thanks

Mister_A
06-15-2006, 05:12 AM
Good thread, and I'm thinking of picking up a bottle. I am looking at Bone Boost for some joint support, too. Would the 1000mg Cissus Quadrangularis in Bone Boost be Cissus overkill if taken with Hyperdrol? It's a different extract, so I think it would be OK...just want to check and be sure.

Thanks
Should be fine.

Mister_A
06-15-2006, 07:48 AM
Finally!! :D

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ax/hyper.html

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ax/hyper.html

AtomicLee
06-15-2006, 09:53 AM
Buy up becasue we are sooolllllddddd out!

thejgeffect
06-15-2006, 09:57 AM
any word on when hyperdrol.com will be up?

kappaz
06-15-2006, 10:11 AM
any word on when hyperdrol.com will be up?

^^

kappaz
06-15-2006, 10:13 AM
Finally!! :D

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ax/hyper.html

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ax/hyper.html


Why is the Urtica dioica complex left out under The Ingredients: ?
It is only mentioned in the FAQ section

AtomicLee
06-15-2006, 10:13 AM
^^


I have no idea.

AtomicLee
06-15-2006, 10:15 AM
Why is the Urtica dioica complex left out under The Ingredients: ?
It is only mentioned in the FAQ section

i dont know why but its listed on the side.

Boxer757
06-15-2006, 11:00 AM
I'm pretty sure i'm going to order the Hyperdrol along with some MAN Vaporize for a cut.
My question is should i get 2 bottles of hyperdrol or 1 bottle of hyperdrol and 1 bottle of retain? In other words, would i see more results from 2 months of just hyperdrol or one month of hyperdrol combined with retain?
Thanks!

thejgeffect
06-15-2006, 11:40 AM
yes im also interested in the effects of a hyperdrol/retain stack as opposed to a stand along hyperdrol cycle.

AtomicLee
06-15-2006, 11:56 AM
I would run 30 days HD, then 30 days HD+Retain. As far as the differences in results, I do not know. I just started on tuesday. :)

Dye
06-15-2006, 12:19 PM
I will be starting my 8 week cycle of Hyperdrol on Friday. Do you think it would be ok to run SAN Tight along with it or maybe even that new Omega BURN3D product coming out. Cant wait to start my Hyperdrol!

AtomicLee
06-15-2006, 01:52 PM
I will be starting my 8 week cycle of Hyperdrol on Friday. Do you think it would be ok to run SAN Tight along with it or maybe even that new Omega BURN3D product coming out. Cant wait to start my Hyperdrol!

Im thinking of adding the new omega product too :)

wild1poet2
06-15-2006, 03:16 PM
Just an observation, Hyperdrol seems very similar to **** Jungle Warfare, I know Hyperdrol has just been released, but can anyone make an argument for one over the other?

Anecdotal observation:
JW gave me an unremitting headache that sapped my energy and made my workouts intolerable. I had to discontinue JW. Hyperdrol is not giving me a headache.

bobburn
06-15-2006, 03:30 PM
hmm, that sucks, JW really gave me a boost in the weight room and gave me some of the best pumps I've had in a while. I'm on a cut and I put 20lb on my squat and 15lb on my bench in 3 weeks of use. I discontinued use due to a log with retain I will be doing soon.

JLT
06-16-2006, 01:57 AM
I have 2 more questions.

1. I remember reading it somewhere but I can't seem to find it.. What are the "typical" gains of a 4 week cycle (strength,bf,and mass)

2. As far as diet goes on a bulk how much of a calorie increase should there be?

Thanks.

wild1poet2
06-16-2006, 03:55 AM
hmm, that sucks, JW really gave me a boost in the weight room and gave me some of the best pumps I've had in a while. I'm on a cut and I put 20lb on my squat and 15lb on my bench in 3 weeks of use. I discontinued use due to a log with retain I will be doing soon.

Yeah it did, but athletes shouldn't let my experience discourage them from trying it. Everyone reacts different. I may have had an allergic response to something in the mix. Although several others have also developed a headache most seem to be able to continue with their cycle.

With the good results you were experiencing I would have continued your cycle and stacked with Retain. Log or no log. LOL

Mister_A
06-16-2006, 06:46 AM
I have 2 more questions.

1. I remember reading it somewhere but I can't seem to find it.. What are the "typical" gains of a 4 week cycle (strength,bf,and mass)

2. As far as diet goes on a bulk how much of a calorie increase should there be?

Thanks.
1. Best results will come from an 8 week cycle. You should see about a 1lb increase per week if diet and training are in check.

2. That just depends on your body type? If you gain fat easy? What your maintenance is? I'd say start with 500 over maintenance.

PieEyedPiper
06-18-2006, 12:57 PM
What are the chances we'll be seeing some bloodwork on this?
DS Rebound Reloaded has some great blood work to go with their product. And since it is unlikely we'll ever find out how much of what is in Hyperdrol, and how the extracts differ from competing products I don't see any other way to judge the efects form a scientific point of view.

Tha King
06-19-2006, 07:52 PM
so does hyperdrol effect estrogen in any way?

MindOverMuscle
06-19-2006, 07:59 PM
Yes, it does. Read the first page again.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=816308

Q. What is 6-BrAD™?
A. 6-BrAD™ is a new anti-aromatase that keeps estrogen intact while Test rises - but it also inhibits negative feedback thus inducing an increase in total testosterone and preventing natural test production from shutting down. Our objective is to create a favorable natural androgen to estrogen ratio (like you had as a teenager) which will allow for better body composition with fewer potential rebound issues. While some products (ATD based) have taken the approach of a total estrogen suppression, our view (as user experience substantiates) is that when you totally shut down estrogen you can not only make your workouts intolerable but your libido often goes in the tank.

Tha King
06-19-2006, 08:01 PM
ok i see now...thanks

American Hunk
06-20-2006, 12:17 AM
would taking both Anagen and Hyperdrol be an optimal stack?

I'm doing 3months total: 1month Anagen+1month Anagen/Hyperdrol +1month Hyperdrol(all at 3pills/day). I just started my 2nd month with Anagen+Hyperdrol. If i don't see any body re-comp in the 2nd month, then i'm bailing on the 3rd month of hyperdrol.

What should i expect from Anagen, Hyperdrol and Anagen+Hyperdrol?

bobburn
06-20-2006, 12:50 AM
would taking both Anagen and Hyperdrol be an optimal stack?

I'm doing 3months total: 1month Anagen+1month Anagen/Hyperdrol +1month Hyperdrol(all at 3pills/day). I just started my 2nd month with Anagen+Hyperdrol. If i don't see any body re-comp in the 2nd month, then i'm bailing on the 3rd month of hyperdrol.

What should i expect from Anagen, Hyperdrol and Anagen+Hyperdrol?


Well that depends on how your eating and what your training looks like. Are you on a cut, bulk, recomp???

Mister_A
06-20-2006, 05:30 AM
would taking both Anagen and Hyperdrol be an optimal stack?

I'm doing 3months total: 1month Anagen+1month Anagen/Hyperdrol +1month Hyperdrol(all at 3pills/day). I just started my 2nd month with Anagen+Hyperdrol. If i don't see any body re-comp in the 2nd month, then i'm bailing on the 3rd month of hyperdrol.

What should i expect from Anagen, Hyperdrol and Anagen+Hyperdrol?
Like bobburn said. It really depends on your diet and training. Supplements are about 10% and diet and training are the rest.

bidwal_j
06-20-2006, 08:43 AM
before i start my cycle, i wanted to know how does hyperdrol effect dht levels? my hair is thining naturally already, so i dont want to make it worse.

American Hunk
06-20-2006, 03:17 PM
Well that depends on how you're eating and what your training looks like. Are you on a cut, bulk, recomp???

35 yo, lifting consistently for over 18 years and my diet and training is perfect. I've got a dozen AAS and PH/PS cycles under my belt over 8years. diet and training is not a problem with me as it's perfect. I'm just looking to see if these herbal "anabolic" supplements work for someone with my experience in BB. MY goal here is a re-comp about +6pounds of lbm gain, -3%BF and some strength gains. I never need to heavy bulk anymore but just refining and keeping what i have.

so, what do you think I should expect from a standalone Hyperdrol cycle or a stack with Anagen?

WavyGravy
06-20-2006, 04:25 PM
How would HyD and Retain be stacked together for non-AAS users? Would the Retain be used throughout a Hyperdrol cycle, the last month of the cycle (assuming a 2 or 3 month HyD cycle), or immediatly after finishing the HyD cycle?

Mister_A
06-20-2006, 06:02 PM
35 yo, lifting consistently for over 18 years and my diet and training is perfect. I've got a dozen AAS and PH/PS cycles under my belt over 8years. diet and training is not a problem with me as it's perfect. I'm just looking to see if these herbal "anabolic" supplements work for someone with my experience in BB. MY goal here is a re-comp about +6pounds of lbm gain, -3%BF and some strength gains. I never need to heavy bulk anymore but just refining and keeping what i have.

so, what do you think I should expect from a standalone Hyperdrol cycle or a stack with Anagen?
Hyperdrol alone should bring you about 1lb LBM per week.

Mister_A
06-20-2006, 06:04 PM
How would HyD and Retain be stacked together for non-AAS users? Would the Retain be used throughout a Hyperdrol cycle, the last month of the cycle (assuming a 2 or 3 month HyD cycle), or immediatly after finishing the HyD cycle?
Use them together. 3caps of each per day.

You could run them together the whole time or if you're using only 1 bottle of Retain then keep it with the last month of HyD (if longer than 1 month)

WavyGravy
06-20-2006, 09:14 PM
Use them together. 3caps of each per day.

You could run them together the whole time or if you're using only 1 bottle of Retain then keep it with the last month of HyD (if longer than 1 month)

Thanks, Scheize. Is there any indication of the kind of additional gains we should expect by including Retain? Did any of the testers use retain with HyD?

Mister_A
06-20-2006, 09:27 PM
Thanks, Scheize. Is there any indication of the kind of additional gains we should expect by including Retain? Did any of the testers use retain with HyD?
I havent seen any Hyperdrol+Retain logs yet.

More leaner gains and a better muscle gain/fat loss combo.

bodyjym
06-21-2006, 01:54 AM
but what do you think about testosterone? for example, http://www.anasteroid.com/steroid_information.shtml

Mister_A
06-21-2006, 05:48 AM
but what do you think about testosterone? for example, http://www.anasteroid.com/steroid_information.shtml
What are you asking?

Mister_A
07-05-2006, 09:31 PM
Hyperdrol Headache & Lethargy Sides:


Anytime you get a rise in c'amp you have the potential for headaches. Reports are that we see this in less than 10% of those that use the product and it normally subsides in 1-3 weeks. Another potential cause is that some of the Cissus isomers can rather dramatically lower cortisol levels. If the user is doing too much, they can lower cortisol to the point where the body starts to complain. Net impact, headaches. This is one reason to NOT increase dosage beyond what is suggested. Again, keep in mind that the other reason is economical, for the relatively small increase in effect that you see (30%) you are paying twice the price in capsules. While on the subject of cortisol, a quick drop in cortisol can also cause lethargy which "could" be what is happening to some. However, more likely, the lethargy is a result in the drop in estrogen since estrogen is responsible for part of our energy. This is more likely in a person that started off with too much estrogen. Each of these effects are temporary as your body adjusts to its optimal hormonal levels.

It is important to note that Hyperdrol is not and should not be thought of a test booster. It does much more than that by controlling the HPTA feedback loop and acting as an AR agonist. The entire point of the product is to help your body reach its optimal hormonal state.

Blast_
07-05-2006, 09:33 PM
Hyperdrol Headache & Lethargy Sides:

Nice post you got there. Good to know where this is coming from. Where was that quoted from?

Mister_A
07-05-2006, 09:34 PM
Nice post you got there. Good to know where this is coming from. Where was that quoted from?
VP @ AX

Blast_
07-06-2006, 12:37 PM
So, I used to take cAMPHIBOLIC and I got some hardcore headaches but I was never sure why. They never really subsided until I stopped using cAMPH. Now that you guys say that the rise in cAMP can cause headaches, I should not take Hyperdrol then right? Forskolin was also one of the main ingredients in cAMPHIBOLIC. Thanks.

Mister_A
07-06-2006, 05:28 PM
So, I used to take cAMPHIBOLIC and I got some hardcore headaches but I was never sure why. They never really subsided until I stopped using cAMPH. Now that you guys say that the rise in cAMP can cause headaches, I should not take Hyperdrol then right? Forskolin was also one of the main ingredients in cAMPHIBOLIC. Thanks.
I would still say you should be okay with Hyperdrol at 3caps/day. I'm not sure of the exact dose of forskolin in cAmph. Could be much more than in Hyperdrol.

bobburn
07-06-2006, 06:34 PM
hey, I see that www.hyperdrol.com is up and running, but I thought there were going to be in-house testing results on there..I may be remembering incorrectly though.

Mister_A
07-06-2006, 06:42 PM
hey, I see that www.hyperdrol.com is up and running, but I thought there were going to be in-house testing results on there..I may be remembering incorrectly though.
There should be. I'll find out about it.

bobburn
07-06-2006, 06:56 PM
cool, I'm not losing my mind ;).

az7
07-06-2006, 07:54 PM
would it be beneficial in anyway to run rebound xt after my cycle of hyperdrol

Mister_A
07-06-2006, 07:59 PM
would it be beneficial in anyway to run rebound xt after my cycle of hyperdrol
No. Hyperdrol already contains an AI. Running one for too long is not a good idea.