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Robboe
05-28-2006, 08:41 AM
We're gonna run a little competition over a few boards, including this one for the Designer Stackables line. This is basically going to serve us as part market research, and partly just an excuse to give away some free product.

Let me first remind you all of a relevant part of the Designer Stackables Mission.


The Designer Stackables™ line is not intended to pave new earth and pioneer new breakthroughs like you have come to expect from Designer Supplements; rather, the line creates cost-effective choices for the tried and true that will complement and enhance the efficacy of other Designer Supplements's products. As with the Designer Supplements lineup, the growing Designer Stackables™ catalogue has (and will have) substantial scientific support behind the products and the inclusion of their ingredients.

The supplement market has an abundance of stimulating fat burners, appetite suppressants, health supplements and even choices of protein and meal-replacements. The Designer Stackables? label will introduce new, exciting products from all of these categories and more, including BASIC CUTS™, Suppress-It™ and a wealth of other fundamental but centrally important products. The beauty is that these products are elegantly designed, with all of the meat, and none of the fat, thereby offering you, the consumer, economical options to achieve your goals.

There are two "contests" if you can call them that. The first will win you a bottle of Basic Cuts for coming up with the most creative stack you can use Basic Cuts as part of. There have been some solid suggestions on here already so i am sure you will generate some good ideas for this. We'll chose the best two (a bottle of BC each).

The second will win you a bottle of VIGOR for coming up with the most creative new idea for a future Designer Stackables product (you can suggest as many as you like). We currently have a nitrix oxide-boosting product in the works and news pertaining RESIST to release very shortly. Again, like the first contest, we'll chose the best two giving away a bottle each.

Let the ideas begin.

beau_zo_brehm
05-28-2006, 08:51 AM
A great Basic Cuts stack would be:

DS Basic Cuts: http://bodybuilding.com/store/design/basic.html
USPLabs cAMPHIBOLIC: http://bodybuilding.com/store/usp/camp.html
MAN Vaporize: http://bodybuilding.com/store/man/vap.html

Plus the essentials like a multi, fish oil, creatine (Xceed), and whey protein. Depending on how many pills you wanna choke down other things you could add to the mix are Melting Point and Lean Xtreme. Also for an anti-oxidant you could use Vigor.

So with that you have a thermogenic/stim with Basic Cuts, a thermogenic/non stim with cAMPHIBOLIC, and a sesamin/fish oil product with Vaporize. I could also see Vaporize and Melting Point being extremely synergistic together...

edit: Oh and also in the event that you guys love my idea, and I win (I doubt it), I could see how me being under the age of 18 could keep me from getting a prize, but you guys can just send it to my mommy. :D

deserusan
05-28-2006, 09:15 AM
Bigger- a blend of maca root, l-arginine, tribulus, epimedium, yohimbine, huperzine, vinpocetine, cnidium monnier, eurycoma longifolia jack, bacopa monnieri, theobromine, thioctic acid, vitamin C, and maybe a full spectrum B-complex

Allows your little soldier to focus, stand at attention longer, a be of service to those in need of an orgasm.

uhockey
05-28-2006, 09:17 AM
Basic Cuts + GXR + Scorch V3. Try it. I guarantee I win. You can keep the prize.

deserusan
05-28-2006, 09:28 AM
Heart Health (older adult market): B-complex (high B6), CoQ10, Lycopene, Magnesium, ALA, Selenium, Green Tea Extract

Knockout (sleep aide): ZMA, Cissus Quadrangularis, Melatonin, Kava Kava, Valerian Root, Scutellaria laterifolia, Matricaria chamomila

Withstand (anti muscle wasting complex for hardcore dieting)- BCAA, alpha ketoisocaproic acid, glutamine, ecdysterone, hoodia extract, 5-hydroxytryptamine, Jojoba Seed extract

uhockey
05-28-2006, 09:46 AM
WTF is this CNGSC?

deserusan
05-28-2006, 09:50 AM
WTF is this CNGSC?

Ask Twin Peak :)

jdiritto
05-28-2006, 09:53 AM
e are two "contests" if you can call them that. The first will win you a bottle of Basic Cuts for coming up with the most creative stack you can use Basic Cuts as part of. There have been some solid suggestions on here already so i am sure you will generate some good ideas for this. We'll chose the best two (a bottle of BC each).

The Mega Cuts stack: by JD

Obviously, basic cuts is #1
Ephedrine is my #2 add. on a cycle tho, 3 week pattern.

week 1 - only basic cuts
week 2 - basic cuts + 12.5mg Ephedrine HCL 2x a day
week 3 - Basic cuts + 25 mg Ephedrine HCL 2x a day
-tapering on and off the ephedrine as well-
(this may prove too intense for some, it would be a very individualized stack - no joke)

workout supplement timing

Preworkout :
-A protein shake (30g) with supercarb

- R-ala, ALCAR, the stimulant fat based thermo (basic cuts + ephedrine depending on the week - no ephedrine if doing intense cardio - always monitor heart rate when possible and if you feel uncomfrotable , slow down and take it easy)

- Designer Supps Xceed (or whatever creatine and/or NO you like)

- 3g Pcn + 6-mu

- 2 scoops purple wraath, 2 scoops glycergrow, 1/4 spoon bulk taurine

During workout:
- X scoops grape Xtend (depends on BW), 2 scoops purple wraath, 1 scoop substance WPI, 2 scoops glycergrow

Postworkout:
- finish during shake if not done yet
- bulk CEE
- 1 vigor, 1 NOxidant
- protein shake: 2scoops whey isolate (40-50g), 1/2 spoon bulk taurine, 2 scoops glycergrow, vita-C-ester & Waxy maize starch or vitargo for carbs

other supplements to utilize: just take as recommend/ie you normally would - whatever brands you prefer (some of my recommendations included)

multi vitamin (now adam)
r-ala (3x a day) + glucophase XR (1) at night
biotin with the normal r-ala
NAC
CLA + Sesamin + EFAs (fishoil mainly)
Green Tea extract (50% EGCG or higher)
Yerba mate tea (Search for info on its fat burning abilities)
cAMPIBOLIC
7OH (perhaps lean xtreme or bulk powder - whatever suits your pref)
Liver Tabs - easy protein on the go
glutamine peptides (if not megadose, 10g free form before bed -- up to individual)
Sleep aide when necassary - melatonin, USP R3M

proper protein & water consumption
PROPER DIET !


...jeffy likes.

dito
05-28-2006, 10:10 AM
WTF is this CNGSC?


:)

sublimejeh
05-28-2006, 10:18 AM
Super cutting/muscle retention stack

DS Basic cuts
DS Xceed
Scivation Sesamin
Controlled Labs Purple Wraath
USPlabs cAMPHIBOLIC
Scivation LipidFx OR DS Melting point

Twin Peak
05-28-2006, 10:32 AM
Good input so far guys.

First of all, lets be clear about a few things.

1) You are welcome to choose and select other companies products. The Stackable line was designed to stack well with DS products, but we are curious as to some other real world uses. Certainly there are many other products it would stack well with.

2) We are NOT looking for product ideas. We have more than we can ever get done. On the other hand, we are curious if you have ever thought, "I would love it if there were a _______, that was both cheap and effective." This is how Basic Cuts came about, and is the genesis of the NO-type product. And we have several others in mind as well, but we thought it would be interesting to see what you all thought, as it may affect our timing on product of everyone always wanted a ________.

jaymode
05-28-2006, 10:36 AM
Extreme Cutting with Basic Cuts:
Basic Cuts
Ephedrine
Melting Point
Sesamin
Potassium(for cramping)
BCAAs(bulk or Xtend)
cAMPHIBOLIC + REM-R3G (at night)

uhockey
05-28-2006, 10:41 AM
Ask Twin Peak :)

Well aren't you guys cute.

in10city
05-28-2006, 10:45 AM
- 1 or 2 Basic Cuts
- 3 Scorch Remixed V3
- 25 mg E
- 1000 mg L-Tyrosine
- 1000 mg ALCAR
- drink some grapefruit juice or ginger yerba mate

uhockey
05-28-2006, 10:47 AM
- 1 or 2 Basic Cuts
- 3 Scorch Remixed V3
- 25 mg E
- 1000 mg L-Tyrosine
- 1000 mg ALCAR
- drink some grapefruit juice

Lord I hope you don't live in Carolina.....

Steve/Rob, can I point and make fun of the recommendations that I think are terrible and or unsafe?

deserusan
05-28-2006, 10:54 AM
2) We are NOT looking for product ideas. We have more than we can ever get done. On the other hand, we are curious if you have ever thought, "I would love it if there were a powerful sleep aide, that was both cheap and effective." This is how Basic Cuts came about, and is the genesis of the NO-type product. And we have several others in mind as well, but we thought it would be interesting to see what you all thought, as it may affect our timing on product of everyone always wanted a powerful sleep aide, .

I always liked Mad Libs but yours wasn't that much fun :cool:

Twin Peak
05-28-2006, 11:10 AM
Des, we are working on one, but it won't be for the Stackable line.

40-Yard Dash_2
05-28-2006, 11:15 AM
I always liked Mad Libs but yours wasn't that much fun :cool:
Just take some Activate. You'll get bigger, stronger, and oh yeah, sleep better. :)

uhockey
05-28-2006, 11:19 AM
BC combos that work:

BC+Melting Point = Decreased lethargy, increased lipolysis
BC+Scorch V3 = Best dopaminergic combo I've tried
BC+GXR = High potency appetite suppression if used PWO
BC+FocusXT = A tad too much caffeine, but GREAT for overnight call
BC+Xceed = 30 days of amazing workouts for less than $50

bodybuilder45
05-28-2006, 11:24 AM
:D Basic cuts + T3 + DNP + clen = best cutting stack that will likely kill you

now, for my real suggestion:
basic cuts - 1 serving upon awakening and another pre workout
melting point - 2 caps, 3 times daily
*dicana - 4-5 caps spread throughout the day taken on an empty stomach
xceed - preworkout to maintain muscle mass while in a caloric deficit
cAMP - 2 caps before bed
lean green - taken in morning with BC
BCAA's - megadosed around workout times mixed with WPI
lean xtreme - dosed regularly to keep cortisol levels at bay while dieting
sesamin - 2-3 caps per day taken with fatty meals

*dicana can be replaced with either SAN thyrocuts or **** thyrogen X.

with this stack, you are attacking fat through multiple pathways: the CNS, thyoid, and PPAR-alpha and beta activation to increase fat oxidation.

MuZI
05-28-2006, 11:51 AM
Lord I hope you don't live in Carolina.....

Steve/Rob, can I point and make fun of the recommendations that I think are terrible and or unsafe?

Ephedra + L-Tyrosine?

Sounds like a party to me.

deserusan
05-29-2006, 05:15 AM
A BCAA (free form) enhanced whey isolate would be ideal for my impending cut. Also, a calorie free pizza would be great too. :p

uhockey
05-29-2006, 05:19 AM
If you get that calorie free pizza going, Deser, I'll quit DS and be a free consultant for you. :)

Also, FWIW, the ideas so far have been cool, but remember.......DS provides CoAs and lab tests each of our ingredients. Making a 10+ part proprietary blend entails tons of lab tests and therefore lots of front end costs.

Withstand and Knockout are both very cool product names, however. :)

qw3r
05-29-2006, 05:48 AM
i always thought avant lab's H.E.A.T. works very well with basic cuts, more so than the heat+amp combo that is so highly recommended over on their forum.

heat stands for hordenine, evodiamine, alpha yohimbine, and tyramine which together make for a low stimulating fat loss supplement that focuses on appetite suppression, lipolytic and thermogenic pathway activation, maintenance of long term adipostatic machinery, and strong mood and energy support, with fewer nagative side effects (copied off the bottle).

basically, its meant to be a quality fat burner by nutrient partitioning and appetite suppression while keeping your mood up during your hypocaloric cycle.

imo, this combos so well with basic cuts because it provides all the technical backdrop to battle fatloss on all sides while basic cuts provides the effects that you can really feel. caffiene is a great stimulant commonly used, but has been known to cause iritability and jitteriness. the PEA in basic cuts helps to elevate mood, but absolutely needs to be coupled with a mao-b inhibitor such as hordinine. HEAT bring in more hordenine to maximize the PEA and put to good use all the other ingredients in a gentle, more synergetic manner than many more unsafe stacks out there.

as for the second contest, there are only so many basic goals than can be done. i would actually prefer not to have an all in one type of supplement because im bound to find some flaw in it and prefer to bring together various things i like together for a culminating effect. here are the basic goals i would like to see from affordable supps that you may want to consider:

-energy stimulant (got that one in basic cuts)
-antioxidant (vigor)
-mental focus without caffeine
-appetite suppresant
-appetite stimulator
-sleep aid
-dedicated diuretic (for situational use)
-muscle builder (doubtful to get a great one thats affordable)
-non stim fat burner (same)
-etc

ill add more as i come up with them.

segment
05-29-2006, 05:56 AM
I already have created the calorie free pizza.

Calorie Free Pizza
calories: 0
fat: 0
protein: 0
carbs: 0

WARNING: Injestion of pizza may only be completed after signing the 20 page waver included with your pizza. Pizza may cause headaches, diareha, constipation, vomiting, even death. Please enjoy your pizza!

Stonecoldtruth
05-29-2006, 06:53 AM
This stack is intended for fat reduction and lean mass gains/maintenance. The products all work very well together, if you would like for me to add a dosing schedule I can, but I think we can all see the benefit of such a stack.

Products Used:

DS Basic Cuts
DS Glucophase XR
DS Lean Xtreme
DS Xceed
DS Melting Point

Each product ties in here, lets take a look.

Basic Cuts releases fat from fat stores which Melting Point then burns up. The Lean Xtreme helps to control cortisol while assisting in muscle sparing. Glucophase then jumps in to help with insulin control but more importantly nutrient partitioning (sending more of the muscles). Xceed tops it all off to help increase strength, recovery, pumps, and overall mass.

Using this stack allow you to Basically Melt away your fat, allowing you to be at your Leanest. Only then can you exceed your own expectations and move into the next phase of bodybuilding.

Cheers,
SCT

beau_zo_brehm
05-29-2006, 07:46 AM
Products Used:

DS Basic Cuts
DS Glucophase XR
DS Lean Xtreme
DS Xceed
DS Melting Point



ass kisser!!! :p

CanadaBBOY
05-29-2006, 09:27 AM
Stacks

All stacks would include a multi/whey (the usual suspects). Also blackstrap molasses (around 700mg of potassium per tbs as Aeter tells me) for the melting point stacks to help with cramps.

low-Budget/high stimulant:
Basic Cuts
HEAT
Vigor
GXR

high-budget low stimulant:
Basic Cuts
Sesamin
Melting Point
Vigor
GXR
Salmon oil

high-budget high stimulant:
Basic Cuts
HEAT
Sesamin
Melting Point
Dicana
Vigor
Alcar
GXR
Salmon oil

Extra low-budget low stimulant:
Basic Cuts
NOxidant
Bulk Green tea powder
Bulk nootropics
Vigor


New Stackable???

Adapt
How about a simple nootropic with alcar, bacopa, rhodiola, ginko, ala, etc... a basic nootropic/adaptogenic one? It would work well stacked with basic cuts to increase the thermogenic effects for cutting, help by adding it's adaptogenic properties for mass building, and it would also help for the academic portion of peoples lives when they are studying (a true stackable because it would work for all purposes).

Excell
Pre-workout Citruline/ornithine/arginine/norvaline/gluc-acetone etc...

jdiritto
05-29-2006, 02:18 PM
new product: ALCAR, r-ala, and biotin all in one

ALCAR is to be taken with a form of ala, which depletes biotin stores so its kind of like an all in one, and will reduce the amnt of pills someone needs drastically

Robboe
05-30-2006, 08:02 AM
I like the idea of an adaptogen, but if we do a product for that, we'll go the whole nine yards and make it a DSupplements product.

CanadaBBOY
05-30-2006, 08:25 AM
I like the idea of an adaptogen, but if we do a product for that, we'll go the whole nine yards and make it a DSupplements product.

How about basic ****s.

A fiber/digestive aid/enzyme product.

Perhaps an electrolite drink like gatorade, or perhaps another cutting product that would stack perfectly with basic cuts but had different ingredients (and no caffeine).

Robboe
05-30-2006, 08:30 AM
How about basic ****s.

A fiber/digestive aid/enzyme product.

Perhaps an electrolite drink like gatorade, or perhaps another cutting product that would stack perfectly with basic cuts but had different ingredients (and no caffeine).


I am already keen on some sort of a digestive enhancer or the like. Good suggestion.

uhockey
05-30-2006, 10:20 AM
GoLytely. :)

Patients looooove it. ;)

pharm
05-30-2006, 11:18 AM
GoLytely. :)

Patients looooove it. ;)

orange, cherry, or pineapple! lol
or you could always market mag citrate shots.

uhockey
05-30-2006, 04:50 PM
We had a guy tell us he couldn't take GoLytely because he was allergic to pineapples.......so we got him cherry....despite the fact that it's all artificial. The patient drank it, but the next day nursing told us that upon consuming approximately half, the patient buzzed them to tell them that he was allergic to this one as well.

When asked the symptoms, he told them it "gives me the runs!" :D

True story.

AtomicLee
05-30-2006, 06:29 PM
I would like to see you guys to come out with a quality mrp to compete with Mass Meal.

njfreeweight
05-30-2006, 06:47 PM
why not a multivitamine???stackable=multi=cheap=effective=we ll formulated for the athlete and not an ordinary person=$$$

why not i ask?? if you guys were to tweak your multi what would u do different???

uhockey
05-31-2006, 04:37 AM
I would like to see you guys to come out with a quality mrp to compete with Mass Meal.

It wouldn't be a stackable. It'd be unfair to mass meal to consider it on par with a stackable. If we did an MRP, it'd be part of the "main line"

Lee, regarding your sig, do you actually have the Huntington's genotype, or was that a charity event of some sort?

avian
05-31-2006, 11:27 AM
Maybe an well priced sleep support product and an basic endurance formula with Citruline, nothing as elaborated as BO, more in the line of XCEED is to CEE.

Seroph4x
05-31-2006, 11:46 AM
xceed + basic cuts + red acid

dito
05-31-2006, 12:21 PM
Here is a nice one.

me+Robboe+uhockey

uhockey can be the meat robboe and I will be the bread!

jdiritto
05-31-2006, 01:01 PM
a sleep aide + whatever Arginine (akg?) raises horomone levels best before bed

- gives a good nights rest (better growth and recovery) and raises horomone levels during it (even better growth+recovery!)

AtomicLee
05-31-2006, 01:08 PM
It wouldn't be a stackable. It'd be unfair to mass meal to consider it on par with a stackable. If we did an MRP, it'd be part of the "main line"

Lee, regarding your sig, do you actually have the Huntington's genotype, or was that a charity event of some sort?

It was a Strongman Competition for charity. All of the entry fees and other donated money went to a local Huntington's charity.

I see your point about the mrp, it would still be nice to see a quality one from you guys though.

Twin Peak
05-31-2006, 01:40 PM
Here is a nice one.

me+Robboe+uhockey

uhockey can be the meat robboe and I will be the bread!

Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner!

beer20
05-31-2006, 01:50 PM
Here is a nice one.

me+Robboe+uhockey

uhockey can be the meat robboe and I will be the bread!

<img src=http://216.25.4.204/la/pics/d4/threesome.jpg>
unseen pics from the arnold....

UberBerzerker
05-31-2006, 01:57 PM
<img src=http://216.25.4.204/la/pics/d4/threesome.jpg>
unseen pics from the arnold....


sweet fancy moses!!!!! :eek:

Robboe
05-31-2006, 02:25 PM
Here is a nice one.

me+Robboe+uhockey

uhockey can be the meat robboe and I will be the bread!

This seems like a stretch too far, even by your standards, Armando. ;)

40-Yard Dash_2
05-31-2006, 02:30 PM
Here is a nice one.

me+Robboe+uhockey

uhockey can be the meat robboe and I will be the bread!
:eek: Damn!:eek: :(

deserusan
05-31-2006, 03:05 PM
Here is a nice one.

me+Robboe+uhockey

uhockey can be the meat robboe and I will be the bread!

LMAO!!!!........maybe I shouldn't of said that because I just put dirty thoughts in Dito's sick mind. :p

dito
05-31-2006, 03:58 PM
:p :p :o

uhockey
05-31-2006, 04:45 PM
Uhockey is not at all interested in that stack. I threw up in my mouth. Twice.

I'm also going to hold my tongue on Seroph4x's contribution.

Lee......that's very cool. And glad you don't have the disease. :)

AtomicLee
05-31-2006, 10:11 PM
Thanks man, Im thankful too, but Im glad I could help donate some money to a relatively unkown cause. I could have used a good protein blend higher in carbs from you guys but I guess I will have to wait. Have you guys thought about doing an eaa/bcaa blend for the stackables?

Robboe
06-01-2006, 03:21 AM
Not the Stackables, no. You'll have to watch this space.

Seroph4x
06-01-2006, 03:24 AM
can we add stacks with 2 supps or does it have to be 3?

Robboe
06-01-2006, 03:37 AM
Whatever you like.

Be creative.

Seroph4x
06-01-2006, 03:41 AM
Xceed+Vigor+melting point+basic cuts

Seroph4x
06-01-2006, 04:06 AM
common guys post some stacks you can make up.

jdiritto
06-01-2006, 06:26 AM
Whatever you like.

Be creative.



Xceed+Vigor+melting point+basic cuts

wow, not only creative, but ingenius.

one question though, as it seems you are going for the cutting approach, how did you manage to leave out lean xtreme, melting point, and glucophase xr?!

do you not feel cortisol & insulin regulation are important?!


how longs the competition on? i might make a bulking one if i get bored again.. :D

Twin Peak
06-01-2006, 08:02 AM
Frankly, I'd like to see stacks people have in fact used, with success. Much more likely to win in that case.

jdiritto
06-01-2006, 08:19 AM
forgot it was a cut only type thing..bulking w/ basic cuts would be stoopid..

heres a simple one for when the times is rough

basic cuts + creatine + proteins + multi
and chicken + veggies 4-5x a day
:D

UberBerzerker
06-01-2006, 08:29 AM
this contest is too confusing and has too many rules'n'stuff.....

Robboe
06-01-2006, 08:48 AM
this contest is too confusing and has too many rules'n'stuff.....

That's ok - if you'd read the smallprint you'd have noticed that persons with handles beginning with 'U' and ending in 'R' with a 'Z' as the 8th letter are exempt from the competition. ;)

Seroph4x
06-01-2006, 10:13 AM
any feed back on my stacks so far? i'll be adding more soon to try and take out this competition.

Lonny
06-01-2006, 10:33 AM
My ideal stack would be

GXR+BC, 2-3X daily. Probably in conjunction with Vanquish (since your app supp isn't out yet). Energy levels as well as appetite suppression, and keeping the morale high and craving to a minimum.

MP+Sesamin, 2-3X daily. To keep metabolism going as well as keeping the body healthy. I would personal throw in a cap of 3X fish fats with one of those meals, and Lipidex with another (just cause thats what im currently doing -MP).

Thyrocuts+Blaze/Lean Extreme, 3X daily to hit the thyroidal aspect.

And if need be, a quality ecdysterone product for LBM retention during a large caloric deficit(ecdysten by the sounds of it). Vigor would come in handy to ensure anti-oxidant needs are met.

UberBerzerker
06-01-2006, 01:04 PM
That's ok - if you'd read the smallprint you'd have noticed that persons with handles beginning with 'U' and ending in 'R' with a 'Z' as the 8th letter are exempt from the competition. ;)


seems fair....I wouldn't have entered anyway as I'm still practicing stacking my Legos


goin' ol'skewl on this one....
http://drew.corrupt.net/bp/series1.html

Robboe
06-01-2006, 01:17 PM
seems fair....I wouldn't have entered anyway as I'm still practicing stacking my Legos


goin' ol'skewl on this one....
http://drew.corrupt.net/bp/series1.html

lol. The thing i find funniest about that is that the dude is wearing shades.

njfreeweight
06-01-2006, 01:21 PM
why not a multivitamine???stackable=multi=cheap=effective=we ll formulated for the athlete and not an ordinary person=$$$

why not i ask?? if you guys were to tweak your multi what would u do different???

nobody like this at all???? you woudnt make any changes to your multi???

Lonny
06-01-2006, 01:52 PM
As for a product, how bout something that stack with stims, recreational drugs, and other fun stuff to make them more potent.

Include the Quercetin, Ginger, Bioperine, B-vits, narigin, and anything else.

It definitely would be stackable :)

UberBerzerker
06-01-2006, 01:55 PM
blood thinners and Jaeger bombs?!

beau_zo_brehm
06-01-2006, 06:53 PM
When does the contest end?

Twin Peak
06-01-2006, 07:28 PM
nobody like this at all???? you woudnt make any changes to your multi???

There is no way to even make a caparable product, for as cheap as Centrum, for example. And despite what people say on the boards, they are not willing to pay more.

Jsorb8997
06-01-2006, 07:40 PM
mental clarity/Well Being/Stress and Cortisol relief

Phenibut
Glucophase XR
ErgoPharm AMP
AlCAR
Aniracetam
Edit: Vigor as well

Robboe
06-02-2006, 07:05 AM
When does the contest end?

We'll announce winners on sunday evening, cause i am out all day saturday.

Seroph4x
06-02-2006, 07:48 AM
Now ADAM+NOW fish oil+ON100% whey protein+xceed+xtend

dont really mind if i win or not having fun making up stacks, thanks Robbe, Uhockey, DS.

Twin Peak
06-02-2006, 08:03 AM
People aren't understanding the contest. This is about the Designer STACKABLE line -- hence the "Stack" contest. I am seeing stacks without a STACKABLE product.

jdiritto
06-02-2006, 08:31 AM
what is in the STACKABLE line?

mike2858
06-02-2006, 08:33 AM
Stack
Basic Cuts, Green Tea, Fishoil, CLA, Sesamin, Canp
im doing this now, im doing 2CLA + 1 ses + 2 FO 2 times a day and 1 cla+1ses+ 2 FO once aday. when i get more CLA i will move up to 2 1 2 3x a day.
2 camp in AM and 2 at night. 2 Basic Cuts + 1 GT prior to work out (reason for the GT is that the BC wasnt having much an effect on me anymore so i figured id try before giong to 3 BC)

stack seems to be working for me and with the addition of the GT my workouts have been much better and i have been MUCH hotter/sweaty.

uhockey
06-02-2006, 05:21 PM
Stack
Basic Cuts, Green Tea, Fishoil, CLA, Sesamin, Canp
im doing this now, im doing 2CLA + 1 ses + 2 FO 2 times a day and 1 cla+1ses+ 2 FO once aday. when i get more CLA i will move up to 2 1 2 3x a day.
2 camp in AM and 2 at night. 2 Basic Cuts + 1 GT prior to work out (reason for the GT is that the BC wasnt having much an effect on me anymore so i figured id try before giong to 3 BC)

stack seems to be working for me and with the addition of the GT my workouts have been much better and i have been MUCH hotter/sweaty.

I'm playing with Basic Cuts, Vaporize, and Melting Point currently. Good stuff.

deserusan
06-02-2006, 05:37 PM
Why not a powdered verion of Basic Cuts with some nootropics? I prefer drinks to get my stims because they hit faster. This important to me for morning cardio. You could call it Basically Crack :)

UberBerzerker
06-02-2006, 06:26 PM
People aren't understanding the contest. This is about the Designer STACKABLE line -- hence the "Stack" contest. I am seeing stacks without a STACKABLE product.

how about.....

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=10225693&postcount=61


teeheeheeheeheehee:D

uhockey
06-03-2006, 02:45 AM
Why not a powdered verion of Basic Cuts with some nootropics? I prefer drinks to get my stims because they hit faster. This important to me for morning cardio. You could call it Basically Crack :)

Somehow I think we'd have to drop the cayanne. Otherwise I agree.

Twin Peak
06-03-2006, 07:35 AM
how about.....

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=10225693&postcount=61


teeheeheeheeheehee:D

How about, stop your bitching. ;)

CanadaBBOY
06-03-2006, 07:43 AM
Somehow I think we'd have to drop the cayanne. Otherwise I agree.

I just shot you back an email.


Oh I just recieved my order from BN which contained 4 bottles for Vigor and 2 DS t-shirts, among other things.

NOxidant is $7.00, so i bought 10 bottles. :)

uhockey
06-03-2006, 07:51 AM
I just shot you back an email.


Oh I just recieved my order from BN which contained 4 bottles for Vigor and 2 DS t-shirts, among other things.

NOxidant is $7.00, so i bought 10 bottles. :)

Now that is a sexy order. Months of healthful supplementation and 2 sexy T-shirts!

Twin Peak
06-03-2006, 07:58 AM
We were all out of Vigor at the warehouse. Thankfully we got more in yesterday.

uhockey
06-03-2006, 07:59 AM
We were all out of Vigor at the warehouse. Thankfully we got more in yesterday.

Someone told me it'd never sell. ;)

Cheers to people like Aeter, CanadaBboy, and all the others who give Vigor the love.

Twin Peak
06-03-2006, 08:12 AM
Someone told me it'd never sell. ;)

Cheers to people like Aeter, CanadaBboy, and all the others who give Vigor the love.

LOL. I said that people wouldn't be smart enough to spend there money on a quality health product. So far, I am not wrong either. Look at out least selling product:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/design/designtopgroup.htm

And that is with the smarter folks stocking up. You forget the reason why we were out of stock. ;)

beau_zo_brehm
06-03-2006, 12:10 PM
I'm playing with Basic Cuts, Vaporize, and Melting Point currently. Good stuff.

You stole my idea!

Kledz
06-03-2006, 01:00 PM
I always wanted to see a powdered performance drink somewhat along the lines of Cytosport's Cytomax but with Palatinose as the carb source and a more complete vitamin profile.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/cs/cytomax.html

Kledz
06-03-2006, 01:06 PM
I suggested this to a friend of mine actually:
-Basic Cuts
-Phenogen
-Lean Extreme

deserusan
06-03-2006, 02:38 PM
Somehow I think we'd have to drop the cayanne. Otherwise I agree.

It might do well in the Thai market. :D I just bough some Vigor as part of my contest prep stack. Here's a good wellness stack.

NowVitmin (Breakfast)
PrimaForce ALA (Pre Workout) or DS Glucophase XR (for the less budget minded folks :p)
DS Vigor (Dinner)
Scivation Sesamin (four meals)
Now Green Tea (breakfast and lunch)

uhockey
06-03-2006, 03:06 PM
Not so sure about that ALA.......

cough.....GXR......cough

jdiritto
06-03-2006, 03:08 PM
IMO ala/r-ala during the day, GXR before bed is best for your $.

CanadaBBOY
06-03-2006, 04:34 PM
LOL. I said that people wouldn't be smart enough to spend there money on a quality health product. So far, I am not wrong either. Look at out least selling product:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/design/designtopgroup.htm

And that is with the smarter folks stocking up. You forget the reason why we were out of stock. ;)

I think vigor is one of the best supps to come out in a long while. People are too focused on immediate results and don't think of the long-term very often. I think instead of taking supps that may cause problems down the road, people should focus more on their health and well being and take things that may improve things down the road.

Vigor Vigor, Rah rah rah!

CanadaBBOY
06-03-2006, 04:37 PM
My ultimate wellness/antioxidant stack would be something like

Vigor
NOxidant
Green tea powder
GXR
alcar
Good multi
whey protein
fish oil


Another stackable idea...

How about, an EFA blend for health, memory, brain function, fat loss, etc.. It could also have some calcium, magnesium and potassium perhaps, or maybe just a blend of efa's and maybe some sesamin. Or maybe some phosphatidyl choline/serine, etc...

uhockey
06-03-2006, 05:57 PM
EFA = Blah! Eat your chicken and whey and bulk up on your BCAAs. :)

A wellness/nootropic blend would be cool though.

Seroph4x
06-03-2006, 11:38 PM
i'm buying Vigor next time i order from bb.com.

looks good.

CanadaBBOY
06-04-2006, 12:45 AM
Damn my idea of taking 1 vigor a day and having 4 bottles last for 8 months may not happen. I've already taken two today...

Perhaps two on workout days and 1 on non workout days.

uhockey
06-04-2006, 02:51 AM
Damn my idea of taking 1 vigor a day and having 4 bottles last for 8 months may not happen. I've already taken two today...

Perhaps two on workout days and 1 on non workout days.

Seems solid.

Do you get enough fruits veggies in your dietary intake?

CanadaBBOY
06-04-2006, 12:01 PM
Seems solid.

Do you get enough fruits veggies in your dietary intake?

I do my best but I don't think so.

I have plans to make a big container of chopped up and cleaned veggies so that I can just grab a bunch of them at any time.

I usually have veggies with at least 2 meals during the day, and I usually have 2-3 pieces of fruit.

CanadaBBOY
06-06-2006, 06:39 PM
This thread seems to have been forgotten about...


How about a stackable for increasing hunger?

Maybe a stackable that you take pre-workout that has a bunch of leucine in it (to take with a protein shake), maybe a few other amino acids or something like that. So not a full on EAA or BCAA sup, but cheaper so it just has leucine (but lots of it so it still is very effective).

Kledz
06-12-2006, 06:39 PM
Bboy and I should win by default for being persistant enough to keep bumping the thread. ;)

aoba
06-12-2006, 08:34 PM
what about a buzz stackable like some phenibut in caps mixed with Rhodelia (sp) . that would be pretty cool.
:)

mike2858
06-12-2006, 09:28 PM
i dont know how this would go but what about using ephedra/ephedrine in a stackable? its cheap and although i never tried it seems to be effective. also i dont know if there is oging to be a new ban or whatever but maybe you can get around it if the ephedra/ephedrine is mixed with other incredients in the pill/cap so one can not easily seperate the e

jdiritto
06-13-2006, 03:37 PM
was there ever a winner declared to this competition?

uhockey
06-13-2006, 06:17 PM
was there ever a winner declared to this competition?

Rob is out of town. I'm busy. Art, choose something. :)

MuZI
06-13-2006, 07:41 PM
Basic Cuts + GXR + Scorch V3. Try it. I guarantee I win. You can keep the prize.

^ This guy seems to know what he is talking about, let him win.

mike2858
06-13-2006, 09:24 PM
^ This guy seems to know what he is talking about, let him win.
hes a DS guy! that would not be fair

drewkowsky
06-13-2006, 09:41 PM
THE ATHLETIC PERFORMANCE STACK
Basic Cuts - energizer
Gakic - fatigue toxin remover
Body Octane - Carnosine booster/fatigue reducer
Any CEE - Explosiveness/ ATP recycler
1/2 dose Vigor - Free Radical management

As far as future Stackables products, I would like something for athletic performance, something with citrulline malate or similar effects. I have actually been impressed with the Gakic, so something with similar fatigue-delaying effects would be nice.

40-Yard Dash_2
06-13-2006, 10:10 PM
The Winners of the Designer Supplements Stackables Competition!


Basic Cuts
bodybuilder45
Jsorb8997





Vigor
Canadaboy
qw3r




Congrats to the winners! Please e-mail me your shipping addresses, and thank you!

40-Yard Dash_2
06-13-2006, 10:16 PM
Basic Cuts
GXR
Xceed
Octane
Scorch V.3

MuZI
06-13-2006, 10:51 PM
Vigor + B.O. + Clout.

CanadaBBOY
06-14-2006, 12:07 AM
Since I was the only one picked for Vigor, does that mean that I had the best two idea's and I get two bottles of Vigor? :)

Thanks!

Seroph4x
06-14-2006, 12:11 AM
i dont mind that i didnt win, at least i know what the best stack to get now is

40-Yard Dash_2
06-14-2006, 03:08 AM
Since I was the only one picked for Vigor, does that mean that I had the best two idea's and I get two bottles of Vigor? :)

Thanks!
It was my understanding that it was 2 bottles of BC (2 people) and 1 bottle of Vigor (1 person), but I could be wrong.

If I am, then I apologize and will choose another person for Vigor.

Stonecoldtruth
06-14-2006, 03:12 AM
It was my understanding that it was 2 bottles of BC (2 people) and 1 bottle of Vigor (1 person), but I could be wrong.

If I am, then I apologize and will choose another person for Vigor.



The second will win you a bottle of VIGOR for coming up with the most creative new idea for a future Designer Stackables product (you can suggest as many as you like). We currently have a nitrix oxide-boosting product in the works and news pertaining RESIST to release very shortly. Again, like the first contest, we'll chose the best two giving away a bottle each.

Cheers,
SCT

40-Yard Dash_2
06-14-2006, 03:22 AM
Cheers,
SCT
Yeah, you guys are right.

Appreciate that.

Stonecoldtruth
06-14-2006, 03:22 AM
Yeah, you guys are right.

Appreciate that.

You are welcome, how about a free bottle of Vigor as thanks? muwhahahahahhaa.

Joel
06-14-2006, 03:57 AM
Have you heard about the Legend of the Magic Mushrooms ?

I think having a product that includes these powerful ,anabolic mushrooms would be cool.

According to the legend, you must climb to the top of White Button Mountain carrying a blue flower and then you will discover them.

<img src="http://forums.filefront.com/gallery/users/6/6/3/1/3/magic_mushroom_green.jpg" width="200" height="200">

uhockey
06-14-2006, 03:33 PM
Have you heard about the Legend of the Magic Mushrooms ?

I think having a product that includes these powerful ,anabolic mushrooms would be cool.

According to the legend, you must climb to the top of White Button Mountain carrying a blue flower and then you will discover them.

<img src="http://forums.filefront.com/gallery/users/6/6/3/1/3/magic_mushroom_green.jpg" width="200" height="200">

I hear if you add the White Button Mushroom to 6-Bromo it is amazing. It's called Rebound Reloaded.

Joel
06-14-2006, 08:29 PM
I hear if you add the White Button Mushroom to 6-Bromo it is amazing. It's called Rebound Reloaded.

6-Bromo, is that the same stuff in Hyperdrol ?

Twin Peak
06-14-2006, 09:04 PM
6-Bromo, is that the same stuff in Hyperdrol ?

I can answer that for you if you tell me if what is in Hyperdrol is a form of 6 bromo, which form, and which isomer. With out that info, we'll never know.

factotum
06-14-2006, 09:15 PM
I can answer that for you if you tell me if what is in Hyperdrol is a form of 6 bromo, which form, and which isomer. With out that info, we'll never know.

Just tell us which form and isomer is in RR and maybe then AX can confirm or deny if it's the same ;) Oh yeah, that ain't ever going to happen either so we probably won't know for some time.

Twin Peak
06-14-2006, 09:18 PM
Sort of my point. Joel thought he was being sneaky.

Joel
06-14-2006, 09:35 PM
Sort of my point. Joel thought he was being sneaky.


I can see there is no fooling you

Twin Peak
06-14-2006, 09:49 PM
Joel, that was pretty funny. I am proud of you.

But even if I was fooled, I couldn't have answered, since we don't know.

Joel
06-14-2006, 09:52 PM
Joel, that was pretty funny. I am proud of you.

But even if I was fooled, I couldn't have answered, since we don't know.


All I know is I want some of those mushrooms...

40-Yard Dash_2
06-15-2006, 04:00 AM
Only one address thus far, Canada's.

uhockey
06-15-2006, 06:02 AM
All I know is I want some of those mushrooms...

Rebound Reloaded is onsale at the bb.com store. :)
Pick up some Xceed too, you can compare it to your beloved SizeON. :D

Robboe
06-23-2006, 06:57 AM
The Winners of the Designer Supplements Stackables Competition!


Basic Cuts
bodybuilder45
Jsorb8997





Vigor
Canadaboy
qw3r




Congrats to the winners! Please e-mail me your shipping addresses, and thank you!

Bumping this for info from the other three winners (only have canadaboy thus far).

Thanks all.

CanadaBBOY
06-23-2006, 08:12 AM
Bumping this for info from the other three winners (only have canadaboy thus far).

Thanks all.

They don't seem interested so maybe you should just send me a dozen or so bottles of vigor.

Robboe
06-23-2006, 09:24 AM
Sure.

Do you want the address you need to send payment to, or do you already know? ;)

Elijah_MB
06-23-2006, 09:39 AM
dang, its over.....:( I always miss

CanadaBBOY
06-23-2006, 05:43 PM
Sure.

Do you want the address you need to send payment to, or do you already know? ;)

I don't know exactly, but i'm told it's in Newcastle :)

MuZI
06-23-2006, 06:00 PM
I don't know exactly, but i'm told it's in Newcastle :)

<img src="http://home.comcast.net/~phantomlord13666/pwned.jpg">

Phosphate bond
06-23-2006, 06:02 PM
The Designer Stackables™ line is not intended to pave new earth and pioneer new breakthroughs like you have come to expect from Designer Supplements; rather, the line creates cost-effective choices for the tried and true that will complement and enhance the efficacy of other Designer Supplements's products. As with the Designer Supplements lineup, the growing Designer Stackables™ catalogue has (and will have) substantial scientific support behind the products and the inclusion of their ingredients.

The supplement market has an abundance of stimulating fat burners, appetite suppressants, health supplements and even choices of protein and meal-replacements. The Designer Stackables? label will introduce new, exciting products from all of these categories and more, including BASIC CUTS™, Suppress-It™ and a wealth of other fundamental but centrally important products. The beauty is that these products are elegantly designed, with all of the meat, and none of the fat, thereby offering you, the consumer, economical options to achieve your goals.

So you guys are coming out with a protein powder/meal replacement in the future?

mike2858
06-23-2006, 08:34 PM
i believe hes just stating that there are a number of different protein/mrp's to chose from and not insinuating that they will be relasing one. but what do i know.

qw3r
06-23-2006, 09:18 PM
They don't seem interested so maybe you should just send me a dozen or so bottles of vigor.

oh im quite interested thank you very much :D

thanks DS, ill definately put the bottle of vigor to good use! pm and email sent. i actually thought my H.E.A.T. + basic cuts stack worked pretty well, but you cant win em all i suppose.

congratulations to the other winners too.

:)

Phosphate bond
06-23-2006, 09:18 PM
i believe hes just stating that there are a number of different protein/mrp's to chose from and not insinuating that they will be relasing one. but what do i know.

I know his feeling on straight protein powders, but I just wonder if they had anything special planned.

If Molecular ever did anything like this I think it would be ccol to use some AA 10% AA powder in our MRP or whatever. Only problem is I think AA powder is even more expensive than the oil.

uhockey
06-24-2006, 02:49 AM
I know his feeling on straight protein powders, but I just wonder if they had anything special planned.

If Molecular ever did anything like this I think it would be ccol to use some AA 10% AA powder in our MRP or whatever. Only problem is I think AA powder is even more expensive than the oil.

I agree that an AA powder in protein would be really cool. Especially in an MRP type product.

ericgonzalez
06-24-2006, 05:19 AM
why not a multivitamine???stackable=multi=cheap=effective=we ll formulated for the athlete and not an ordinary person=$$$

why not i ask?? if you guys were to tweak your multi what would u do different???

^^ Call it Vigor Extreme.

Robboe
06-24-2006, 05:38 AM
I don't know exactly, but i'm told it's in Newcastle :)

Yeah, just send it address to "Rob in Newcastle".

I am sure it will get here. Everyone knows i am the only Rob in the city.

Robboe
06-24-2006, 05:40 AM
I know his feeling on straight protein powders, but I just wonder if they had anything special planned.

If Molecular ever did anything like this I think it would be ccol to use some AA 10% AA powder in our MRP or whatever. Only problem is I think AA powder is even more expensive than the oil.

I agree, but IIRC Bruce wanted it in SizeOn, but could not get the AA to bond to any compound well enough and apparently it tasted nasty.

Robboe
06-24-2006, 05:42 AM
So you guys are coming out with a protein powder/meal replacement in the future?

Shh...

Robboe
06-27-2006, 02:40 AM
The Winners of the Designer Supplements Stackables Competition!


Basic Cuts
bodybuilder45
Jsorb8997





Vigor
Canadaboy
qw3r




Congrats to the winners! Please e-mail me your shipping addresses, and thank you!


Final bump.

If i have no details by this evening then i'm afraid you've missed the boat.

Seroph4x
06-27-2006, 09:08 AM
heh if no one claims it...rofl

Kledz
06-27-2006, 09:57 AM
Final bump.

If i have no details by this evening then i'm afraid you've missed the boat.

And the first Runner up: me :D

qw3r
06-28-2006, 12:18 AM
PMs and emails sent a few days ago, maybe im not using the pm system correctly as there is no response yet? i would very much like my bottle of vigor please and hope im not too late :(

40-Yard Dash_2
06-28-2006, 02:57 AM
I got your PM. I'll make sure Rob has it too, which I believe he does.

qw3r
07-01-2006, 03:43 PM
vigor received, thanks again!

i wonder how the other three are doing.

40-Yard Dash_2
07-01-2006, 03:46 PM
vigor received, thanks again!

i wonder how the other three are doing.

The other two never got back with us about their Basic Cuts. A shame.

Canadaboy's may take a little extra time with him obviously being in Canada. He will receive his nonetheless.

Your welcome.

cris88
07-26-2006, 11:30 PM
pre-workout 2 (2.5 mg) yohimbine hci caps 200 mg. caffiine 2 glucophase xr

post-workout leptigen rebirth with sesamin (30 min prior to breakfast)

between breakfast and lunch- living fuel original or protein shake (www.livingfuel.com) with sesamin

30 min before lunch ECA with melting point

1/2 grapefruit and sesamin with lunch

before 4pm ECA with melting point

1 grapefruit with dinner

1 glucophase and multivitamin before bed.

And of course, balanced meals, carbs earlier in the day, combo of cardio, strength training, stretching, sufficient sleep, good sex at least 5 days aweek.

CanadaBBOY
07-27-2006, 12:07 AM
The other two never got back with us about their Basic Cuts. A shame.

Canadaboy's may take a little extra time with him obviously being in Canada. He will receive his nonetheless.

Your welcome.

Haha, yea hopefully but i can't blame you guys if it doesn't, you tried! The melting point never reached me so that may be a sign that customs doesn't like that. I've never NOT recieved anything before, with the exception of some PH that legal gear accidentally tried to send me (formadrol V2 or something like that), which I never asked for and was not sad that I didn't recieve. I was supposed to be testing powertrain, and they sent that for some reason instead. They were running logs on that as well and I guess they got mine mixed up.