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BringnIt
03-15-2006, 11:42 AM
Simple enough. While we are working on more complex projects, we were thinking about the idea of releasing several single ingredient capsule or powdered products. We'd like to get your opinion as a consumer on what you'd like to see. The more opinions the better.

Thanks.

bodybuilder45
03-15-2006, 11:47 AM
NOW's line covers a lot of single ingredient supplements at very cheap prices. if you could do this for cheaper or bring other capsules/powders that are unavailable right now as single ingredient supps, i would be all for it. good luck with the new products SNS. can you comment on any of the new projects in the works?

KD1
03-15-2006, 11:48 AM
Protein Serum!

Slated
03-15-2006, 11:50 AM
Citrulline Malate/luecine pills

:)

R_N_S
03-15-2006, 11:51 AM
bump^^^^ Steve knows I want citrulline malate/BCAA/creatine, but citrulline malate and leucine would be a nice combo :D

Skigazzi
03-15-2006, 11:54 AM
bump^^^^ Steve knows I want citrulline malate/BCAA/creatine, but citrulline malate and leucine would be a nice combo :D

Leucine in caps that isnt more $$ than bulk, leucine is sooooo cheap in bulk I doubt they could do this.

ATD in 5mg caps!!! seriously.

TE
03-15-2006, 11:55 AM
Bulk Aminos.

Nathan1
03-15-2006, 11:56 AM
Citrulline Malate pills

:)


someone does make these, but cheaper is always an option. :D

i personally enjoy the taste of CM.

Fuerza_M
03-15-2006, 11:58 AM
Citrulline Malate/luecine pills

:)
agree

BringnIt
03-15-2006, 12:04 PM
Keep them coming. Any herbs you guys are looking for?

And, sorry, cannot comment on future products until they are closer to release.

musicfreak
03-15-2006, 12:07 PM
Bulk aminos are a good idea.

dtrain13
03-15-2006, 12:08 PM
Citrulline Malate/luecine pills

:)

It's nice to see another person with simular ideas.....;)

dtrain13
03-15-2006, 12:09 PM
Keep them coming. Any herbs you guys are looking for?

And, sorry, cannot comment on future products until they are closer to release.

Hey man, did you ban me from M&M yet???? :D

chlaxman
03-15-2006, 12:20 PM
Antioxidant caps, like a wide variety of full-dosed antioxidants.

TE
03-15-2006, 12:22 PM
Antioxidant caps, like a wide variety of full-dosed antioxidants.
Now this would be an original product!

R_N_S
03-15-2006, 12:24 PM
Antioxidant caps, like a wide variety of full-dosed antioxidants.


whatever, those are for old people, PROTEIN AND CREATINE BABY

ya damn hippie....






...whoops, wrong thread

dito
03-15-2006, 12:34 PM
Personally, I'd like to see bringit fired. He contributes nothing to the company.

BillyB
03-15-2006, 12:35 PM
Personally, I'd like to see bringit fired. He contributes nothing to the company.

We do not have a bringit working for us :D, but we do have a bringnit.

Slated
03-15-2006, 12:38 PM
Citrulline Malate/luecine pills

:)
;) !!

Guardian
03-15-2006, 12:50 PM
Magnolia Bark

JRRBadBoy4Life
03-15-2006, 12:52 PM
Bulk Leucine, Bulk BCAA's, Bulk CEE,

MuZI
03-15-2006, 12:55 PM
Bulk Leucine, Bulk BCAA's, Bulk CEE,

How low can you go on the price?

Everyone wants BCAA but the price is a killer to megadose these.

cxm
03-15-2006, 12:58 PM
I would like you to sell EAA's with some decent flavoring. :)

cxm
03-15-2006, 01:00 PM
Antioxidant caps, like a wide variety of full-dosed antioxidants.

Yes I agree, I am big on antioxidants.

dtrain13
03-15-2006, 01:03 PM
I would like you to sell EAA's with some decent flavoring. :)
As would I. ;)

GeordieArtois
03-15-2006, 01:09 PM
Antioxidant caps, like a wide variety of full-dosed antioxidants.

You took the words right outta my mouse.

chlaxman
03-15-2006, 01:11 PM
You took the words right outta my mouse.
I like mice :D

JRRBadBoy4Life
03-15-2006, 01:13 PM
How low can you go on the price?

Everyone wants BCAA but the price is a killer to megadose these.
WHat do you consider megadose?

Bloute
03-15-2006, 01:14 PM
Definietly Citrulline malate. Itís tough to get some here in Canada. There is some option but nothing available on BB.com.

cxm
03-15-2006, 01:15 PM
Antioxidant caps, like a wide variety of full-dosed antioxidants.

Please skip the vitamin C and E since everybody can buy them separately.

I would like something similar to NOW's VitaBerry Plus+


http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/now/vita.html



Calories 5
Total Carbohydrate 1 g <1%
Sugars 0.5 g
Vitamin C (as Ascorbic Acid) 160 mg 267%
VitaBerry Hiorac Fruit Blend 420 mg
[A proprietary blend of fruit extracts and concentrated powders, containing Wild Blueberry Extract (Vaccinium angustifolium) Grape (vitis vinifera) and Grape Seed Extract, Raspberry (Rubus idaeus and Raspberry Seed Extract, Cranberry (Vaccinium mcrocarpon), Prune (Prunus cerasus), Wild Bilberry Extract (Vaccinium myrtillus), and Strawberry (Fragaria virginia)]

chlaxman
03-15-2006, 01:17 PM
Please skip the vitamin C and E since everybody can buy them separately.

I would like something similar to NOW's VitaBerry Plus+


http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/now/vita.html
Was going to suggest skipping the C and E for the same reason. Mostly I'd like to see grape seed extract, green tea, black tea, r-ALA (or k-r-ALA depending on price), NAC, maybe some querciten, etc.

zootalors
03-15-2006, 01:24 PM
Years ago there was a combo of tribulus and yohimbe in a capsule.
TRIHIMBULUS I think they called it.
I took it and thought it worked well, but I have no proof.
I would like to see it again.

cxm
03-15-2006, 01:26 PM
Was going to suggest skipping the C and E for the same reason. Mostly I'd like to see grape seed extract, green tea, black tea, r-ALA (or k-r-ALA depending on price), NAC, maybe some querciten, etc.

Yeah I really like grape seed extract with Vitamin C.

chlaxman
03-15-2006, 01:28 PM
Yeah I really like grape seed extract with Vitamin C.
Yeah right now I'm only using C, E, and grape seed extract. I need to pick up more antioxidants.

IMO antioxidants are #2 on the supp list behind multi.

dtrain13
03-15-2006, 01:53 PM
Was going to suggest skipping the C and E for the same reason. Mostly I'd like to see grape seed extract, green tea, black tea, r-ALA (or k-r-ALA depending on price), NAC, maybe some querciten, etc.
Can't forget this, Curcumin extract!

chlaxman
03-15-2006, 02:01 PM
Can't forget this, Curcumin extract!
Hey you're the SNS rep...:)

ChiTown72
03-15-2006, 02:05 PM
something like xtend, bulk bcaa with good flavoring for less $

dtrain13
03-15-2006, 02:29 PM
Hey you're the SNS rep...:)
:eek:

Skigazzi
03-15-2006, 02:35 PM
Transdermal Methoxy-HCG

Its all about driving a bus through a loophole!

jdiritto
03-15-2006, 02:42 PM
a 'moutain dew' flavored protein isolate powder... <3<3<3 i would live off it

kendog
03-15-2006, 02:47 PM
Sesamin!
K-R-ALA
Flavored BCAA

uhockey
03-15-2006, 02:48 PM
Please skip the vitamin C and E since everybody can buy them separately.

I would like something similar to NOW's VitaBerry Plus+


http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/now/vita.html

We call it Vigor.

RRFB
03-15-2006, 02:49 PM
a 'moutain dew' flavored protein isolate powder... <3<3<3 i would live off it
Yeah me too.

uhockey
03-15-2006, 02:49 PM
HupA, all alone, low-dosed.

G.W. Hayduke
03-15-2006, 03:23 PM
Keep them coming. Any herbs you guys are looking for?

And, sorry, cannot comment on future products until they are closer to release.
How about tiny tablets of salvinorin-A for sublingual absorption.

G.W. Hayduke
03-15-2006, 03:24 PM
Transdermal Methoxy-HCG

Its all about driving a bus through a loophole!
Sorry dude, Higher Power already makes transdermal HCG: http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/hp/hcg.html :rolleyes:

Robboe
03-15-2006, 03:25 PM
We call it Vigor.

I was just wondering why no one had gave this reply.

G.W. Hayduke
03-15-2006, 03:29 PM
I was just wondering why no one had gave this reply.
I did, but I said it out loud and no one heard me.

Robboe
03-15-2006, 03:33 PM
$2 for Joel.

G.W. Hayduke
03-15-2006, 03:36 PM
$2 for Joel.
Yes! Now I'm living off of $352 dollars a month.

Okay, I'm done cluttering up this thread, sorry.

I'd like to see SNS bring out pure phenibut, l-tyrosine-akg, and phenylethylamine.

SNS8778
03-15-2006, 03:44 PM
Yes! Now I'm living off of $352 dollars a month.

Okay, I'm done cluttering up this thread, sorry.

I'd like to see SNS bring out pure phenibut, l-tyrosine-akg, and phenylethylamine.

Are you saying the three above as stand alones or as a combo, just wanted to make sure I understood properly.

G.W. Hayduke
03-15-2006, 04:03 PM
Standalones. Better to go that way. People can buy and combine as they see fit.

You'd better add some hordenine or something like it to the list of standalones too (it acts as an MAO-B inhibitor, right?).

I'd also like anandamide, 2-arachidonylglycerol, and N-acylethanolamines (these should be put together).

Bane
03-15-2006, 04:14 PM
Capped 500mg GABA

Bane
03-15-2006, 04:15 PM
I'd also like anandamide,

Do you hate your nerve cells?

BiggJohn
03-15-2006, 04:26 PM
1R,2S norephedrine
Clenbuterol HCL
2,4-Dinitrophenol

BiggJohn
03-15-2006, 04:27 PM
1R,2S norephedrine
Clenbuterol HCL
2,4-Dinitrophenol

Just kidding, but honestly 1R,2S norephedrine would be tits on a stick.

chlaxman
03-15-2006, 04:41 PM
We call it Vigor.
When is it supposed to be out?

Mr. Aries
03-15-2006, 06:10 PM
whatever and whenever sns decides to come out, i'm gonna try it. I have complete trust in this company because everything i've used up to this point from them have been absolutely great.

I'd like to see citrulline malate caps, a man and a separate woman's multi with anti-oxidents and minerals, a test booster, a ecdy product, a methoxy product, and a protein.

BiggJohn
03-15-2006, 06:18 PM
whatever and whenever sns decides to come out, i'm gonna try it. I have complete trust in this company because everything i've used up to this point from them have been absolutely great.

I'd like to see citrulline malate caps, a man and a separate woman's multi with anti-oxidents and minerals, a test booster, a ecdy product, a methoxy product, and a protein.

They've been talking about making a multi for a long time. Ofcourse, it has to be tough to compete against a solid brand like NOW's Adam. If they do make one by the time I'm finished with my current Adam stock (6 months), I'd buy a bottle.

beer20
03-15-2006, 06:29 PM
I would like you to sell EAA's with some decent flavoring. :)
yeah,what he said.

maybe even EAA's with some CM....

G.W. Hayduke
03-15-2006, 06:35 PM
Do you hate your nerve cells?
Yes.

At least I didn't suggest DNP like someone... ;)

Lonny
03-15-2006, 06:44 PM
Capped 500mg GABA


NOW makes this const effectively don't they?

bump on PEA.

envirocopy512
03-15-2006, 06:45 PM
NOW makes this const effectively don't they?

bump on PEA.
I agree.

dito
03-15-2006, 06:46 PM
I agree.


You don't even know what pea is. Silly

laz
03-15-2006, 07:04 PM
Good to see similar ideas being thrown out there. CM caps would be cool.

G.W. Hayduke
03-15-2006, 07:07 PM
... I here Bioenergy D-ribose is good... :D

And I'm actually serious. I'd like it if someone came out with a straight-up high quality ribose prod. No need to flavor or cap it or anything, keep it cheap.

BringnIt
03-15-2006, 07:10 PM
Hm, I've been looking into that recently and pretty much every study I've read was negative.

dtrain13
03-15-2006, 07:49 PM
I'd like to see citrulline malate caps, a man and a separate woman's multi with anti-oxidents and minerals, a test booster, a ecdy product, a methoxy product, and a protein.

Hmmmmmm......:cool:

uhockey
03-15-2006, 07:53 PM
I hear a pretty cool company already makes a product with PEA that is damned affordable. ;)

G.W. Hayduke
03-15-2006, 08:01 PM
I hear a pretty cool company already makes a product with PEA that is damned affordable. ;)
Oh... you must be talking about Thermolife! I know, they ARE cool.

dito
03-15-2006, 08:07 PM
You got that right :cool:

chlaxman
03-15-2006, 08:18 PM
I hear a pretty cool company already makes a product with PEA that is damned affordable. ;)
I heard MusleTech was looking into it, I guess they decided to come out with it finally.




:D

laz
03-15-2006, 08:19 PM
I hear a pretty cool company already makes a product with PEA that is damned affordable. ;)

Uhockey...this is an SNS thread, not a vigor/t-life promotion! :D

dito
03-15-2006, 08:23 PM
Uhockey...this is an SNS thread, not a vigor/t-life promotion! :D


Not anymore, it's not.

:cool:

laz
03-15-2006, 08:27 PM
Not anymore, it's not.

:cool:


Oh shucks. It has officially been hijacked. :)

dito
03-15-2006, 08:28 PM
muahaha!

laz
03-15-2006, 08:31 PM
Someone hit the Ditonator button!!! It will launch dito from the thread! Him and his Dr. Evil laugh. Muahhahaaah!

dito
03-15-2006, 08:32 PM
Where is your gtek review mr. laz?

BillyB
03-15-2006, 08:39 PM
Where is your gtek review mr. laz?

Bad Bad Bad Laz, do you owe dito a review?

kendog
03-15-2006, 08:43 PM
An energy drink formulated to mix with hard liquour.

dito
03-15-2006, 08:44 PM
An energy drink formulated to mix with hard liquour.


hellz yeah!

G.W. Hayduke
03-15-2006, 08:46 PM
Since I made all the best suggestions, when do I get some free supps? :D

laz
03-15-2006, 09:10 PM
Where is your gtek review mr. laz?


Supp log section.

kendog
03-15-2006, 09:13 PM
I think my drink mix suggestion is pretty good.. I'd buy it!

Quelly
03-15-2006, 09:16 PM
a REAL tongat ali/longjack mixture, not the fake crap sold by most of the supplement companies

click the link below to see what I'm talking about....if you guys made an actual effectively dosed capsule of the right quality I'd be all over it

http://www.tongkatali.org/extractprocedure.htm

laz
03-15-2006, 09:18 PM
I think my drink mix suggestion is pretty good.. I'd buy it!


Yah its a good idea but there are so many on the market already. Although none from a supp company! EAS had a red bull like drink out about 4yrs ago. It didnt sell well at all but tasted great with vodka.

kingcarlos
03-15-2006, 09:36 PM
Citrulline malate
CEE (more size per serving)
AAKG
Nootropics
caffeine:D

Skigazzi
03-15-2006, 09:47 PM
A preworkout focus / energy product :

200mg Aniracetum
100mg Alpha GPC
200mg ALCAR
100mg Caffeine
50mg Chocomine

One cap per serving, 90 servings per bottle, to be taken 30 minutes pre workout.

-And you could sell capped Glucuronolactone Powder in 1 gram caps, to be taken when you walk in the door of the gym, cause it comes on immediatley.

Basically a 2 Stage Preworkout Stim/Nootropic that would work really well.

This is the best idea Ive ever had for someone else to make money on.

BringnIt
03-15-2006, 10:08 PM
I'm intrigued by the alpha GPC. Steve desperately wanted to put it in Focus XT but the cost was too high. As a stand-alone...? Hmmm.

Also, Focus contains ALCAR--not in nancy boy 200mg doses, either ;) --and caffeine, and CVM Xtreme already contains glucuronolactone so that would be a lot of overlap.

Skigazzi
03-15-2006, 10:13 PM
I'm intrigued by the alpha GPC. Steve desperately wanted to put it in Focus XT but the cost was too high. As a stand-alone...? Hmmm.

Also, Focus contains ALCAR--not in nancy boy 200mg doses, either ;) --and caffeine, and CVM Xtreme already contains glucuronolactone so that would be a lot of overlap.

HEY! I was trying to fit it in one cap!! ;)

I didnt know you used glucuronolactone already...hmmm...lets see what else it out there...

G.W. Hayduke
03-15-2006, 10:31 PM
I'm intrigued by the alpha GPC. Steve desperately wanted to put it in Focus XT but the cost was too high. As a stand-alone...? Hmmm.

Also, Focus contains ALCAR--not in nancy boy 200mg doses, either ;) --and caffeine, and CVM Xtreme already contains glucuronolactone so that would be a lot of overlap.
I'm glad you saw through his hair-brained idea... :D ;)

But alpha-GPC in caps may be a good idea. But for some, the cost might outweigh the benefit. And the guy Quelly is on to something with the tongkat ali I think. On that site they mention this herb as being the tongkat ali for women: http://www.tongkatali.org/kacipfatima.htm
I know a lot of guys would buy that for their women.

Skigazzi
03-15-2006, 10:41 PM
I'm glad you saw through his hair-brained idea... :D ;).


HEEEEY!!!! :D

I still like that idea, its a good one two preworkout plan...maybe I'll just have to start my own company and get board reps of my own :p

G.W. Hayduke
03-15-2006, 10:52 PM
HEEEEY!!!! :D

I still like that idea, its a good one two preworkout plan...maybe I'll just have to start my own company and get board reps of my own :p
Well, you definitely had the right ingredients, the dosages were just off a bit.

BTW, I do believe that the 'racetams require a "loading" period and need to be taken everyday. Could be a good way to get people to have to take the prod all the time... but I donno. That would be better off in its own cap with some choline.

Carmen0857
03-15-2006, 11:40 PM
Id like to see some natural Anti estrogens.

DIM (biodim)
restervol


Also curcumin (tumeric) seems to have many benefits for a bodybuilding lifestyle

cakedonkey
03-15-2006, 11:44 PM
I also think capped (or bulk powder) citrulline malate would be an excellent addition to your line-up.

TooMuchTooMuch
03-16-2006, 12:31 AM
I agree. Get ahead of the curve with a bulk CM product.

And how about improving your creatine. Why not make it 880% better than creatine like other companies? (kidding, of course).

dtrain13
03-16-2006, 06:04 AM
ttt :D

xJonathanx
03-16-2006, 06:25 AM
Antioxidant caps, like a wide variety of full-dosed antioxidants.

Bump

uhockey
03-16-2006, 07:26 AM
Also curcumin (tumeric) seems to have many benefits for a bodybuilding lifestyle

BringNit hates that stuff. Dunno why. ;)

SNS8778
03-16-2006, 12:49 PM
An energy drink formulated to mix with hard liquour.

The problem then would be that we wouldnt get anything done around the office lol. Imagine having access to thousands of them. Not good for productivity lol.

SNS8778
03-16-2006, 12:52 PM
I'd like to see SNS bring out pure phenibut, l-tyrosine-akg, and phenylethylamine.

For the phenylethylamine, any dosage thoughts? If I am not mistaken (and I could be wrong), it doesnt last very long in the system, so you would either have to take small doses frequently or do something time released - or am I off base.

391rippy
03-16-2006, 12:52 PM
Simple enough. While we are working on more complex projects, we were thinking about the idea of releasing several single ingredient capsule or powdered products. We'd like to get your opinion as a consumer on what you'd like to see. The more opinions the better.

Thanks.
hmmm...the only singe-ingredient cap or powder that i would like to see that isn't already done by BN or *** would be PEA hcl

SNS8778
03-16-2006, 12:55 PM
Many people seem to like the idea of CM. Everyone let me know - if u had your option, would you rather have bulk powder (unflvored), bulk powder (flavored), or caps (750 mg might be the most that could fit per cap).

Let me know your thoughts.

TE
03-16-2006, 12:59 PM
Many people seem to like the idea of CM. Everyone let me know - if u had your option, would you rather have bulk powder (unflvored), bulk powder (flavored), or caps (750 mg might be the most that could fit per cap).

Let me know your thoughts.
I'd like unflavored powder. Plan on adding it to flavored bcaa's, UNLESS you can make the flavoring strong enough to overpower plain bulk bcaa's.

cxm
03-16-2006, 12:59 PM
Many people seem to like the idea of CM. Everyone let me know - if u had your option, would you rather have bulk powder (unflvored), bulk powder (flavored), or caps (750 mg might be the most that could fit per cap).

Let me know your thoughts.

Bulk unflavored is fine, it's not bad tasting just sour. Capping will raise the price too much, as it is, it's not a cheap supplement.

NumberTwentyTwo
03-16-2006, 01:04 PM
after seeing some suggestions, which ones do the SNS team like??

after i see what you guys like id like to add some of my own

SNS8778
03-16-2006, 01:05 PM
Skigazzi - aniracetam is an ingredient I doubt we could use.

I liked the comcept that you were going with, but I think that might go against our Focus XT, which contains ALCAR and Caffeine along with alot of other ingredients - link:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/sns/focus.html

Ingredients per serving:
Focus XT Blend 9800mg
- Choline Bitartrate
- L-Tyrosine
- Acetyl-L-Carnitine
- DMAE
- Vinpocetine
- Huperzine A

Caffeine: 200 mg.
__________________________________________________ _

CVM Xtreme already has 1000 mg of glucuronalactone in it per serving.

- 50 servings per container
CVM (Cell Volumizing Matrix Blend)
DiCreatine Malate: 3 g
Creatine Ethyl Ester Malate: 2 g
Betaine Anhydrous: 2 g
Taurine: 2 g
2:1 DiArginine Malate: 1.5 g
Glucuronalactone: 1 g
Glycocymine: 500 mg
Vitamin B6 (Pyridoxine): 100 mg (5000% DV)
Vitamin B3 (Niacin): 50 mg (250% DV)
Folic Acid: 200 mcg (50% DV)
Vitamin B12: 125 mcg (42% DV)
__________________________________________________ _

Also, how many people would be interested in glucuronalactone caps? They would either be 750 or 1000 mg, most likely 750 mg is what would fit. Let me know.

__________________________________________________ __

As Bringnit said, I wanted to use Alpha GPC in with Focus XT but it would have raised the price too much. If anyone is interested in Alph GPC as a stand alone, let us know.

SNS8778
03-16-2006, 01:06 PM
Id like to see some natural Anti estrogens.

DIM (biodim)
restervol


Also curcumin (tumeric) seems to have many benefits for a bodybuilding lifestyle

I like the concept above. If anyone has more input, Im all ears.

Also, I know someone who's going to give me hell at the tumeric suggestion lol.

SNS8778
03-16-2006, 01:08 PM
after seeing some suggestions, which ones do the SNS team like??

after i see what you guys like id like to add some of my own

Still havent picked favorites, just trying to collect some ideas. Please let me know your thoughts, all input is appreciated.

dtrain13
03-16-2006, 01:08 PM
BringNit hates that stuff. Dunno why. ;)

Don't know either.......

Lax891122
03-16-2006, 01:16 PM
Capped CM would be hard to take in high doses like some people recommend(6-10 g pre W/O= about 12-20 caps if each= 1/2 gram). Throw a packet of splenda in per every 2-3 grams if you dont like the sour taste. It kinda turns out into a flat sprite/ faygo lemon-lime taste.. only sad thing is that most people dont remember what pop tastes like.

NumberTwentyTwo
03-16-2006, 01:18 PM
Still havent picked favorites, just trying to collect some ideas. Please let me know your thoughts, all input is appreciated.
-bulk citrulline malate
-panax ginseng
-taurine
-maca/longjack/tongkat mix
-rhodiola <------definately

Bane
03-16-2006, 01:18 PM
For the phenylethylamine, any dosage thoughts? If I am not mistaken (and I could be wrong), it doesnt last very long in the system, so you would either have to take small doses frequently or do something time released - or am I off base.

Aye

SNS8778
03-16-2006, 01:20 PM
If we were to do CM powder, what size would everyone vote on? I really want peoples opinions on this.

NumberTwentyTwo
03-16-2006, 01:26 PM
If we were to do CM powder, what size would everyone vote on? I really want peoples opinions on this.
400-500g

6g a day is recommended but higher doses are the best

so 10g a day....400g would last 40 days

SNS8778
03-16-2006, 01:28 PM
-bulk citrulline malate
-panax ginseng
-taurine
-maca/longjack/tongkat mix
-rhodiola <------definately

Taurine is so inexpensive and readily accessible, but I could look into it.

Like to hear more thoughts on the Rhodiola and the mix you listed above - either dosing thoughts or just whether more people would be interested.

TE
03-16-2006, 01:29 PM
If we were to do CM powder, what size would everyone vote on? I really want peoples opinions on this.
500g.

Bane
03-16-2006, 01:39 PM
Taurine is so inexpensive and readily accessible, but I could look into it.

Like to hear more thoughts on the Rhodiola and the mix you listed above - either dosing thoughts or just whether more people would be interested.

I have a better idea for you:
Take 5-10 grams pharmaceutical grade Glycerine,dirt cheap and with a nice sweet taste
Throw in Taurine
Add 2 grams Nacl, 1 gram KCl, some magnesium citrate
Put it in seperate plastic baggies with some decent flavorings, to be dissolved in water. Voila, you have something more effective than Glycer-Glow at aleast half price

cxm
03-16-2006, 01:40 PM
If we were to do CM powder, what size would everyone vote on? I really want peoples opinions on this.

500 grams

At 6 grams for the minimum this would last 83 days

At 10 grams a day, this would last 50 days

I think 6 grams a day is good enough for people using other supplements for endurance and energy

10 grams a day would be optimal if it's the only supplement being used for endurance and energy to gauge it's efectivness.

Lax891122
03-16-2006, 01:44 PM
500 grams

At 6 grams for the minimum this would last 83 days

At 10 grams a day, this would last 50 days

I think 6 grams a day is good enough for people using other supplements for endurance and energy

10 grams a day would be optimal if it's the only supplement being used for endurance and energy to gauge it's efectivness.

Agreed. If you wanted to make it in a smaller container and a big one id go with 200 and 500.

peepingyoda
03-16-2006, 01:47 PM
Might be a little after the fact, but quality combination support supplements would have sold like hot cakes. I'm talking about supplements like AX perfect cycle, but on a larger scale. A all-in-one whole body support with:

Hawthorne berry
RYR
CoQ10
Picanisol
Milkthistle
NAC
R-ALA
Saw Palmetto
Niacin
Quercetin
and maybe even Taurine

NumberTwentyTwo
03-16-2006, 01:51 PM
Taurine is so inexpensive and readily accessible, but I could look into it.

Like to hear more thoughts on the Rhodiola and the mix you listed above - either dosing thoughts or just whether more people would be interested.
agree on the taurine

i would love rholoida, i know there is already some in the store but i would like it more from a company i trust. i also think that having a rholoida/bacopa monniera supp would be amazing. i dont think any compay has just those 2 together alone as a supp.

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maca/longjack/trib-maybe add some muira puama and/or zinc to it and right there is a great test booster....def leave out Avena Sativa. add some thing like nac or angus cactus for a lil anti-oxidant. shouldnt be too expensive to make and it would be a great, fairly simple straightforward test booster. im not so sure about the doses for all of em but i would guess

Test Boosting
maca-100mg
tribulus-550mg
longjack/tongkat-500mg-1g
zinc- 40mg
muira puama-400mg

Anti-Oxidant
nac-200mg
angus cacti-?

obviously all of this doesnt need to be included but w/e man im bored.

391rippy
03-16-2006, 01:52 PM
For the phenylethylamine, any dosage thoughts? If I am not mistaken (and I could be wrong), it doesnt last very long in the system, so you would either have to take small doses frequently or do something time released - or am I off base.
i would suggest 50mg, so that way someone could have a small dosage or bump it up to 100 or 150 for more pronounced effects. PEA only lasts around 2.5 hours, unless you add in an MAOI-B inhibitor such as l-deprenyl. for me the short effect is not a problem.

peepingyoda
03-16-2006, 01:55 PM
Here's another money maker... Time Released Stimulants. I always wondered why more companies don't time release stuff that has a short half-life.

391rippy
03-16-2006, 01:56 PM
Here's another money maker... Time Released Stimulants. I always wondered why more companies don't time release stuff that has a short half-life.
personally, i would like the opposite. most stims i've used last 5-8 hours, and stim X will last 16-18 hours. i'd like a stim that last for 2-3 so that you can take it at night to help you study but still be able to sleep

Bane
03-16-2006, 02:09 PM
Here's another money maker... Time Released Stimulants. I always wondered why more companies don't time release stuff that has a short half-life.

Maybe because properly done time released pharmacotechnical forms are a pain in the ass to do properly.

peepingyoda
03-16-2006, 02:12 PM
Maybe because properly done time released pharmacotechnical forms are a pain in the ass to do properly.

Figured that was the case :D Good to know.

SNS8778
03-16-2006, 03:03 PM
Just wanted to bump this to hopefully hear some suggestions from the evening crowd.

Thanks to everyone that has contributed.

BTW...numebertwentytwo .... I liked the rhodiola/bacopa suggestions.

Trans_Isomer
03-16-2006, 03:10 PM
Straight K-R-ALA
Straight Citrulline Malate
Straight D-Ribose
Straight ATP (In bioavailable form :))
Straight Orotic Acid

NumberTwentyTwo
03-16-2006, 03:16 PM
Just wanted to bump this to hopefully hear some suggestions from the evening crowd.

Thanks to everyone that has contributed.

BTW...numebertwentytwo .... I liked the rhodiola/bacopa suggestions.
thanks...id like 10% of profits ;):D jp

but really itd be nice to use either alone and/or also stacked w other supps

dtrain13
03-17-2006, 08:00 AM
Straight K-R-ALA
Straight Citrulline Malate
Straight D-Ribose
Straight ATP (In bioavailable form :))
Straight Orotic Acid

I like it!

bigswole30
03-17-2006, 08:27 AM
I think a natural testosterone booster with Propionyl-l-carnitine(1 gram), Urtica Dioica(50mg), Bacopa Monnieri (20:1) 50 mg, Rhodiola (standardized for 3% rosavin) 175 mg and whatever Test Booster people are liking now days!

My reasoning for these choices:

Propionyl-L-Carnitine for more fat transport, greater blood flow to exercising muscles, higher testosterone levels, increased testosterone receptor activity, and lower cortisol.

Urtica Dioca to help prevent testosterone conversion to DHT, keep testosterone free from SHGB, SHGB may interfere with testosterone from binding to its receptors.

Bacopa Monnier for its adaptogen purposes. Can have a positive effect on cortisol levels due to its anxiolytic properties.

Rhodiol for its effects on preventing mental fatique and increasing workforce capacity.

Mind you I dont source raws so I dont know what it would cost to mabufacture this, but I will be making my own cocktail with this combo in the very near future.

NumberTwentyTwo
03-17-2006, 10:49 AM
I think a natural testosterone booster with Propionyl-l-carnitine(1 gram), Urtica Dioica(50mg), Bacopa Monnieri (20:1) 50 mg, Rhodiola (standardized for 3% rosavin) 175 mg and whatever Test Booster people are liking now days!

My reasoning for these choices:

Propionyl-L-Carnitine for more fat transport, greater blood flow to exercising muscles, higher testosterone levels, increased testosterone receptor activity, and lower cortisol.

Urtica Dioca to help prevent testosterone conversion to DHT, keep testosterone free from SHGB, SHGB may interfere with testosterone from binding to its receptors.

Bacopa Monnier for its adaptogen purposes. Can have a positive effect on cortisol levels due to its anxiolytic properties.

Rhodiol for its effects on preventing mental fatique and increasing workforce capacity.

Mind you I dont source raws so I dont know what it would cost to mabufacture this, but I will be making my own cocktail with this combo in the very near future.
none of those ing. really do a good job at raising test levels tho.

bigswole30
03-17-2006, 02:16 PM
none of those ing. really do a good job at raising test levels tho.

I think you missed the first part of my post. I listed things I think would compliment a natural TEST booster. People are raving about this saponin, this herb, etc..........That is why I said along "WITH" whatever natural "TEST" booster people are liking these days. I listed ingredients "I" feel would make it work better. I know what I would use but another company is already using it and out of respect I did not mention as to not appear to look like I am reccomending stealing their formula

carterharris
03-17-2006, 02:21 PM
This one would be nice to see. Propionyl-L-Carnitine

Carmen0857
03-17-2006, 03:43 PM
I like the concept above. If anyone has more input, Im all ears.

Also, I know someone who's going to give me hell at the tumeric suggestion lol.


You mean you like the tumeric idea or the Natural Anit-Estrogen one?

Ive been trying to find naturall anti-es that I could run for a long period of time, also could be used in PCT, then runn after one stops nolva or ATD jsut to keep levels in check after pct is over, or a natty stack, but havent really found a good affordable product.

I guess Ill have to stick to broccli every day until I find one.

SNS8778
03-17-2006, 03:51 PM
You mean you like the tumeric idea or the Natural Anit-Estrogen one?

Ive been trying to find naturall anti-es that I could run for a long period of time, also could be used in PCT, then runn after one stops nolva or ATD jsut to keep levels in check after pct is over, or a natty stack, but havent really found a good affordable product.

I guess Ill have to stick to broccli every day until I find one.

Meant that I liked the natural anti-e idea. Im definately open to hearing input and suggestions on it or any other ideas.

Also, interested to see how many people would like a good tumeric product.

Carmen0857
03-17-2006, 03:55 PM
Meant that I liked the natural anti-e idea. Im definately open to hearing input and suggestions on it or any other ideas.

Also, interested to see how many people would like a good tumeric product.


Actually now that I think about it I beleive Tumeric has some Anti-E proprties, or atleast I know Ive read it may provide releif for symptoms of gyno.

laz
03-17-2006, 04:32 PM
Im still down for bulk cm and maybe a nootropic or sumtin for that non alcoholic buzz.

dtrain13
03-17-2006, 04:32 PM
Actually now that I think about it I beleive Tumeric has some Anti-E proprties, or atleast I know Ive read it may provide releif for symptoms of gyno.

Yes it does. It has many health benefits and unfortunatly doesn't get much attention. I'll be using as part of my upcoming cycle.

dtrain13
03-20-2006, 09:57 AM
Bump!

391rippy
03-20-2006, 10:12 AM
maybe a nootropic or sumtin for that non alcoholic buzz.
that's why i suggested PEA. in normal doses it can be a good mood enhancer but in higher doses it can be fun :)

TooMuchTooMuch
03-22-2006, 02:00 AM
I cannot complain about any SNS products that I've taken thusfar. However, I would like to call something to the company's attention. I just received bottles of Methyl-Drol XT in the mail today, and noticed 2 obvious grammatical errors on the labels. The quality of product may be wonderful, but it's important to proofread your packaging, especially on something with such a small amount of writing. Please let me know if your company is aware of this.

Quelly
03-22-2006, 02:12 AM
a REAL tongat ali/longjack mixture, not the fake crap sold by most of the supplement companies

click the link below to see what I'm talking about....if you guys made an actual effectively dosed capsule of the right quality I'd be all over it

http://www.tongkatali.org/extractprocedure.htm


thats for the peeps suggesting test boosters with longjack ITS GOTTA BE QUALITY OR ITS WORTHLESS!!!

SNS8778
03-22-2006, 08:09 AM
TooMuchTooMuch

- PM sent.

Mr. Aries
03-22-2006, 08:13 AM
where's the bulk CM?



*waiting* :D

thepopo
03-22-2006, 09:11 AM
I'd like to see stinging nettle. I've heard interesting stuff about it reducing the amount of SHBG in the blood.

cxm
03-22-2006, 09:14 AM
where's the bulk CM?



*waiting* :D

Get in line, panty model! :mad: :p :D

I asked for it too!

SNS8778
03-22-2006, 11:35 AM
Get in line, panty model! :mad: :p :D

I asked for it too!


Impatient panty model at that.

chlaxman
03-22-2006, 11:39 AM
where's the bulk CM?



*waiting* :D
Hell I know where to get bulk CM...

cxm
03-29-2006, 09:13 AM
I would like to see a product based on just Leucine (5gr), Citrulline Malate(3gr) and electrolytes with some strong flavoring to mask EAA's in bulk. The consumer can have the option of taking a whey isolate shake or just add EAA's in bulk.

laz
03-29-2006, 10:32 AM
I would like to see a product based on just Leucine (5gr), Citrulline Malate(3gr) and electrolytes with some strong flavoring to mask EAA's in bulk. The consumer can have the option of taking a whey isolate shake or just add EAA's in bulk.


NO! jk =)

dtrain13
04-29-2006, 12:21 PM
I would like to see a product based on just Leucine (5gr), Citrulline Malate(3gr) and electrolytes with some strong flavoring to mask EAA's in bulk. The consumer can have the option of taking a whey isolate shake or just add EAA's in bulk.
I would like to see something like this also...:D


Just bumping this up for more ideas as we've got a lot of stuff in the works but are always open for more ideas from our consumers.

HYPEBEAST
05-07-2006, 01:23 PM
TTA
Straight up TTA like Inhibit-E, I dont feel like paying extra for flaxseed
Bulk Powders are cheaper, if you can make like a 150 cap bottle with 500mg a cap at a good price it would be hot

Appetite Control + Mood Support
Appetite supressants make me depressd

Insulin Control
Always space for this, great assistant, stack with your creatine products

Forslean based product
This is popular, I'm not a fan of cAMP

Betaine/Creatine based product
synergy with arginine e2, can blow off WB/GB combo

Smaller AE2
90 caps, to run instead of wb since its better, prew/o

Test Booster
Tongkat Ali + Divanil would be cool

Cheap Recovery Product
We dont really need BCAA's to recover, NAC+a few others can do the work

Anator Imitation <<

shinobi
05-07-2006, 01:58 PM
Simple enough. While we are working on more complex projects, we were thinking about the idea of releasing several single ingredient capsule or powdered products. We'd like to get your opinion as a consumer on what you'd like to see. The more opinions the better.

Thanks.
You've got the creatine and NO areas covered pretty well. I'm hoping to enjoy my two tubs of CVM that should be arriving tomorrow.

I know you have Inhibit-E but how about some sort of test booster matrix (along the lines of Diesel Test)?

SNS8778
05-07-2006, 03:41 PM
Good suggestions from both of the above.

Thanks guys, keep the ideas coming.

Blap Blaow
06-19-2006, 01:21 PM
still looking for ideas and suggestions

and can we have a thread-relocation please :)

Mr. Aries
06-20-2006, 02:42 PM
how bout a cutting product called


Xacto Knife... :D

adoniscomplex
06-20-2006, 03:08 PM
Bulk Leucine, Bulk BCAA's, Bulk CEE,
yep and cm