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southpawfighter
02-02-2008, 07:37 PM
Ok, I know sugar is a big no before bed due to the production of an insulin spike. Currently cutting, I am hungry by the time I get home from work around 10...I have decided I am going to purchase ON 100% Casein (creamy vanilla) for a before bed drink. I would love to mix it with milk but I am avoiding any significant insulin increase before bed. Any suggestions on how to prepare it and it be somewhat tastey? =] Another question, on those days I am realll hungry after work, I eat 1/2 c non fat cc, 1/2 c Fiber One, and 1/2 tbsp all natural blueberry jam. Regarding the jam, (it has 7g natural sugar/tbsp) should I resort to a sugar free jam or stick with the natural stuff? Do the sugar free jams, such as Smuckers flavored with Splenda, cause an insulin spike? Any suggestions are very much welcome. I will rep those who help me out. =]

THANKS

Kayla

Sibrek
02-02-2008, 07:38 PM
Vanilla is disgusting with water. Chocolate is good with water. Both are great with milk

~snake0
02-02-2008, 07:40 PM
wait a minute, why can't one consume sugar before bed? because for the past month ive been eating a pb&j before bed.

southpawfighter
02-02-2008, 07:44 PM
You can consume sugar before bed, by no means you can only stop yourself buddy. =] I CHOOSE to avoid that insulin increase. Oh, and chocolate isn't my cup of tea.

Sibrek
02-02-2008, 07:45 PM
Any food causes an insulin spike. Relax and drink your milk

southpawfighter
02-02-2008, 07:49 PM
So is it straight if I have:
1 scoop- ON 100% Casein
1 c non fat milk

Sibrek
02-02-2008, 07:51 PM
no you'll probably gain fat regardless of your macros for the day

southpawfighter
02-02-2008, 07:54 PM
That's what I am asking. Then why do so many suggest cottage cheese before bed? It has like 6g of sugar?

~snake0
02-02-2008, 07:55 PM
and what is an insulin spike?

Sibrek
02-02-2008, 07:55 PM
lol, i'm being sarcastic, all that matters is calories/macros.

southpawfighter
02-02-2008, 07:59 PM
Haha. You confusing me darlin. lol. Is it straight if I keep it under 10g of sugar or is that allowing a bit much before bed?

southpawfighter
02-02-2008, 08:00 PM
Insulin Spike> spiking of the insulin =P
Look it up on here because this site could convey the point much better than myself. =]

Sibrek
02-02-2008, 08:02 PM
Haha. You confusing me darlin. lol. Is it straight if I keep it under 10g of sugar or is that allowing a bit much before bed?

i'm not going to argue with studies that MAY claim stupid crap such as 1% fat gain before bed from sugar and insulin spikes

but..i eat crap all the time, but keep my macros in check and i'm not fat.

(so in my opinion, keep the 10g sugar..its lactose, anyway, its healthy)

southpawfighter
02-02-2008, 08:05 PM
What about in natural jams? Good or not before bed?

user5145
02-02-2008, 08:06 PM
An insulin spike is simply the release of insulin by the pancreas upon consumption of food. It allows for the storage of blood glucose and lipids, among other things.

Sibrek
02-02-2008, 08:06 PM
IMO anything natural is fine at any point, fruit sugar, vegetable 'sugar', etc.

Do you want to skip cookies, cereal, and other garbage? Maybe. I don't :)

southpawfighter
02-02-2008, 08:15 PM
Haha. Thank you all. Sibrek you a goofy ****. =P

NoReMaC
02-02-2008, 08:38 PM
I'm pretty sure that fat prevents insulin spikes. There is fat in milk right? :)

user5145
02-02-2008, 08:42 PM
As far as I know, insulin is released whenever food of any type is consumed...the difference is in the amount that is released.

friedrice683
02-02-2008, 08:57 PM
Get the casein, but chocolate

This is my last meal EVERY DAY!!


1 scoop ON Chocolate casein
1/2 scoop vanilla whey

Mix that with 6-7oz of cold water so it's like pudding.


2tbsp Natural PB
1 packet splenda

Mix that in, let it sit in freezer/fridge (don't really wanna let it FREEZE, caus then its ice, but just want it to thicken and get cold)

It's just like pudding/ice cream, but better IMO. I love it.

I plan to try Vanilla casein next. I hear its amazing too...

Oddball8945
02-02-2008, 09:06 PM
lol, i'm being sarcastic, all that matters is calories/macros.

yup, im going to have to agree.

I pretty much have been eating whatever (healthy most of the time and not) being in my macros within the day pretty much whenever, and due to my schedual i like to eat alot of my food at night after school/work, Ive been doing this for months now, strength goes UP, bodyfat goes down, Weight goes up to but thats because i Avg a slight surplus at weeks end.

People stress to much about little things, when in reality its calories/macros in V out in a given period in the long term. Heck you could be short 40 carbs for the day for instance, and eat a candy bar before bed to get those 40 carbs, it probally wont make a difference.

terracotta
02-02-2008, 09:11 PM
There's nothing wrong with adding milk to your casein shake. And there's nothing wrong with P&J. And there's nothing with with an apple, or a bowl of oats. I've lost fat with carbs prebed, just have to be below maintenance to lose fat.

FullOut19
02-02-2008, 09:17 PM
scratch the shake or CC eat yourself 4 omega 3 eggs

slow digesting protein (eggs are one of the highest proteins absorbed)
280 calories
26g of protein
16g of healthy fats
eggs pwn shakes
whole foods ftw

(also no sugar)

Fanatik
02-02-2008, 09:29 PM
1% CC+Natty PB is under 10g of sugar